Can this Dirrell hit?

[SeasideSlugger]

Conflicting reports about this yanks power. Some say he'll struggle some say he's deceptively powerful. Looking at Youtube he doesn't seem anything special on the clattering front. Wouldn't like him whacking me in the mush like.............

Has he enough pop to trouble Froch? Taylor dropped him but he was hardly staggering all over the place.

[achillesthegreat]

Seems to wing his punches and cuff a bit. Ain't see that much of him but he doesn't look incredibly powerful.

Carl needs to show him pain.

[anjawnaymiz]

he looks dodgy to me, watched a few of his fights, he looks rubbish when pressured against the ropes and at times his legs look very wobbly.

expect him to start off well, but froch should catch up with him around the 3rd, im picking a froch stoppage around the 7th or 8th, will be a great fight.

[Flea Man]

Basically, he pulls back in a straight line with his chin in the air, doesn't employ the 'lateral movement' the Yanks have been bangin on about, can't punch for shit (decent stoppage of Hanshaw but look at the first round of Oganov) and ALWAYS throws shots from the hip, leaving his head exposed.

Unless Froch has suddenly lost his punch resistance he is gonna walk through Dirrell, he allows people to come onto him way too easily.

Unlike Oganov, Frochy knows what to do when he gets there :deal

[Mazallan]

Having known so little about Dirrel I can not wait to find out what the fuss is about.

[Flea Man]

Having known so little about Dirrel I can not wait to find out what the fuss is about.

You'll see when Froch beats the shit out of him.

[Mazallan]

You'll see when Froch beats the shit out of him.



I hope so. I still gotta pay for primetime though. :patsch

[DON1]

He is fairly quick but he cant hit. He cant take a hit either

[Flea Man]

I hope so. I still gotta pay for primetime though. :patsch

Well I gotta pay 75 quid for return train fare, 45 quid for a ticket and fuck knows how much on booze and fags:lol::good

[threethirteen]

Dirrell can punch a bit, but he's not especially destructive or explosive. He's so reliant on his handspeed that he sacrifices the snap on his punches for volume. Against Froch he'll regret that.

[Mazallan]

Well I gotta pay 75 quid for return train fare, 45 quid for a ticket and fuck knows how much on booze and fags:lol::good


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Still nothing beats seeing live boxing.

[brown bomber]

He's better then Lacy.

[Beeston Brawler]

Well I gotta pay 75 quid for return train fare, 45 quid for a ticket and fuck knows how much on booze and fags:lol::good

Three pints will set you back less than a tenner.

I will PM you the results when I arrive back in God's own county.

:good

[gasman]

Basically, he pulls back in a straight line with his chin in the air, doesn't employ the 'lateral movement' the Yanks have been bangin on about, can't punch for shit (decent stoppage of Hanshaw but look at the first round of Oganov) and ALWAYS throws shots from the hip, leaving his head exposed.

Unless Froch has suddenly lost his punch resistance he is gonna walk through Dirrell, he allows people to come onto him way too easily.

Unlike Oganov, Frochy knows what to do when he gets there :deal

Yep, I watched that one yesterday and Dirrell through everything at Oganov, who was not troubled at all. It would be interesting to see if Froch just walked through Dirrell in round 1 or 2, to see if he could get the stoppage, as Dirrell has a suspect chin as well.

I can see Froch giving Dirrell a good hiding, it will be great to watch at about 2am with a lot of beer consumed at that stage:cool:

[Flea Man]

I honestly think if he starts like he did against Pascal Froch will get him out of there in the 1st

[threethirteen]

I honestly think if he starts like he did against Pascal Froch will get him out of there in the 1st

That would make my weekend!

[Beeston Brawler]

Not mine.

Money for tickets, hotels etc, want to see more than a one round blowout and some lame-ass undercard.

[TFFP]

Not a big puncher, probably below average for a 168lb'er. His KO ratio is nothing special and besides that he doesn't often plant his feet and his punching form is not the best so that alone tells you he can't be punching as hard as possible.

Oganov seemed to just walk him down for long periods until he got busted up too bad.

[GrovesVDegale]

Good thread.

This could be a decisive factor on Sat night. Carl is famed for a great chin and his style means that he rides a lot of shots. He gets hit but few catch him clean. I think Dirrell's speed and craft could cause him a lot of problems, much like the Taylor fight. But if Carl can use his superior experience and (hopefully) strength and not get too nervous early on, then i think he wears Dirrell down and stops him around 7th-9th.

Come on the Cobra!!

[IntentionalButt]

He certainly doesn't have comparable stopping power to Pascal, and won't throw near as many power punches.

Taylor may even hit harder, tbh.

[gasman]

I honestly think if he starts like he did against Pascal Froch will get him out of there in the 1st

Yep, he was very shaky starting off against hanshaw and Froch is a lot tougher with an good chin, I think that a round 1 KO would be an nice side bet, you can get 40-1 with Paddy Power.

Dirrell will know about an atmosphere when he steps into the ring with 8000 pissed-up Froch fans all screaming like banshees. Add to the mix, an aggressive, more experienced and stronger Froch pressing him early, it would be very interesting to see if Dirrell could cope.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Not sure how this will go which I think should give people cause for concern. Elements of Froch's performances against both Pascal and Taylor give cause for concern. He is game and tough is Carl but I think this fight will depend on how much of the real deal Andre Dirrell actually is. Speed and skill and amateur pedigree in this instance create concern as well unorthodox elements. I like Froch as everyone knows but if my hunch is right then it may require a career best effort.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

Needs distance to get any power and snap in his shots. This kid cannot fight up close and will look to hold and spin off as soon as Froch gets close.
Ive said Dirrell will be competative for 5/6 rnds. But if Frochs in the mood,and with the atmoshere,it would'nt suprise me if he got to this fella early.

[John18]

Froch within 5 rounds. I honestly think that Dirrell has no idea what he is getting into ( I mean that with full respect) he thinks he's ready, but he's not.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Froch within 5 rounds. I honestly think that Dirrell has no idea what he is getting into ( I mean that with full respect) he thinks he's ready, but he's not.

We will see on Saturday. Froch has clearly allowed Dirrell to get under his skin which is not good especially if the other guy is the faster perhaps more skilled fighter.

[trotter]

Olu, has Carl not got amateur pedigree too though?

People seem to write Froch off as a banger but he has a fine jab when he chooses to use it, he can control fights with it

I think Dirrell could wilt under the pressure, the atmosphere, the occassion. Carl needs to assert himself early and the fight should flow his way.

Of course Dirrell could be a genuine huge talent and many Americans seem to think he is. I've not seen anything to back this up though.

[Flea Man]

We will see on Saturday. Froch has clearly allowed Dirrell to get under his skin which is not good especially if the other guy is the faster perhaps more skilled fighter.

Judging by today's events I think it's clearly the other way round. Dirrell bricked it and Frochy just stared at him.

[John18]

We will see on Saturday. Froch has clearly allowed Dirrell to get under his skin which is not good especially if the other guy is the faster perhaps more skilled fighter.

I'm not convinced that he is more skilled. Certainly different skills, Dirrell is faster and flashier for sure.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, has Carl not got amateur pedigree too though?

People seem to write Froch off as a banger but he has a fine jab when he chooses to use it, he can control fights with it

I think Dirrell could wilt under the pressure, the atmosphere, the occassion. Carl needs to assert himself early and the fight should flow his way.

Of course Dirrell could be a genuine huge talent and many Americans seem to think he is. I've not seen anything to back this up though.

Carl has an excellent amateur pedigree as well which is what worries about some of his performances when he moved up in class. Against Magee I was in the arena that night as Ajose was on the bill however technically the Pascal and Taylor fights worried me. Great entertainment mind you. I want Froch to fight with intelligence and more. The thing is we really don't know about Dirrell. He is clearly talented but is he for real then Carl could come a cropper. Dirrell has elements that will trouble anyone. In fact the more I look at this super 6 series I think we will be in for some shocks. Put it this way don't be to surprised if their are 2 Americans in the final called Andre.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Judging by today's events I think it's clearly the other way round. Dirrell bricked it and Frochy just stared at him.

What happened today. I saw some of the press conference yesterday which made believe he has got under Froch's skin and Froch is well pissed off.

[UndisputedUK]

Basically, he pulls back in a straight line with his chin in the air, doesn't employ the 'lateral movement' the Yanks have been bangin on about, can't punch for shit (decent stoppage of Hanshaw but look at the first round of Oganov) and ALWAYS throws shots from the hip, leaving his head exposed.

Unless Froch has suddenly lost his punch resistance he is gonna walk through Dirrell, he allows people to come onto him way too easily.

Unlike Oganov, Frochy knows what to do when he gets there :deal

Froch should walk him down and stop him. Dirrel is no Pascal. This fight doesn't go the distance, Froch won't let that happen.

[threethirteen]

Olu, Olu, Olu... really - Dirrell is so mediocre I'm surprised people are giving him a chance.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I think the overall series is very close. I would also not be particularly surprised if Taylor did well against Abraham.

[GazOC]

I've seen a few of Dirrells fights and he's a pretty poor puncher but doesn't try to be anything else. He's pretty slick boxer at the level he's been fighting at but I don't think he can outbox Froch for 12 rounds without encountering serious problems.

His best bet IMHO is to get the early rounds in the bag and try to "cute" is way to enough of the others to get the win.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, Olu, Olu... really - Dirrell is so mediocre I'm surprised people are giving him a chance.

I have always felt that an undefeated fighter is kind of mystical because neither he or anyone really knows how good they are. We will find out for sure on Saturday. I like Froch but I cannot write off Dirrell who is clearly coming to do everything possible to win. The key may well be that one these guys can get to the other but the other may not be able to get to the other.

[threethirteen]

But Froch is undefeated too and knows he can carry a fight late. Dirrell looked shaky early on against Hanshaw. I just can't get past that - he was all over the place against Hanshaw's uneducated, undisciplined pressure - Froch brings a different sort of pressure, one that's mentally draining.

On top of that, the low hands mean that Dirrell's got something else to look out for. The left feint Carl throws usually disguises him turning it into a hook, or bringing the right across while the fighter's looking the other way.

I think Dirrell gets battered late on. He's not got the power to keep Carl off.

[richard mossley]

I honestly think if he starts like he did against Pascal Froch will get him out of there in the 1st


What a waste of £15 if that happens.

[gasman]

What a waste of £15 if that happens.

Yeah but I reckon you will already have got plenty of value with the Abraham v Taylor fight, which will be close I think and very unpredictable.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

But Froch is undefeated too and knows he can carry a fight late. Dirrell looked shaky early on against Hanshaw. I just can't get past that - he was all over the place against Hanshaw's uneducated, undisciplined pressure - Froch brings a different sort of pressure, one that's mentally draining.

On top of that, the low hands mean that Dirrell's got something else to look out for. The left feint Carl throws usually disguises him turning it into a hook, or bringing the right across while the fighter's looking the other way.

I think Dirrell gets battered late on. He's not got the power to keep Carl off.

True Froch is undefeated as well which is another intriguing factor. I can see it going both ways however Froch's last 2 displays give me cause for concern as Dirrell is fast and technical.

[Farmboxer]

I have not been impressed with Dirrel.

[trotter]

Carl has an excellent amateur pedigree as well which is what worries about some of his performances when he moved up in class. Against Magee I was in the arena that night as Ajose was on the bill however technically the Pascal and Taylor fights worried me. Great entertainment mind you. I want Froch to fight with intelligence and more. The thing is we really don't know about Dirrell. He is clearly talented but is he for real then Carl could come a cropper. Dirrell has elements that will trouble anyone. In fact the more I look at this super 6 series I think we will be in for some shocks. Put it this way don't be to surprised if their are 2 Americans in the final called Andre.

I would be surprised if that happens.

Agree on Froch to an extent though, hopefully he won't fall in love with his power, that said he adjusted against Pascal when it became clear he was tough, and he won the second half of the fight behind his jab.

I think JT has a chance against Abraham though.