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brown bomber
09-20-2007, 06:52 AM
Enough of the maybes and what ifs.... this fight is happening and in little over two months we are going to be sat watching a massive part of boxing history unfold. Does anyone really think that Hatton can pull it off and if so why? I'm a massive fan of both fighters though obviously my support lies strongly with Ricky. What I will say is that I give Hatton has a slight chance to get the upset- I like the way Mayweather sits on the ropes behind his shoulder... but I think Hattons going to like it more. I also think he'll like the fact that on the odd occasion we have seen Mayweather tagged there has been a reaction in his legs -the Judah knockdown, the Corley wobble plus Castillo, De la Hoya and Baldomir all managed to hurt the champion in their fights. I think Floyds best weapon in this fight will be his well timed right over the top counter- and to a lesser degree his jab. I also think he'll be smart enough to make a target of Rickys body. My early thoughts are Mayweather will slow Ricky down the stretch and take a UD but i'm so hoping i'm wrong. Thoughts? :good

achillesthegreat
09-20-2007, 07:29 AM
Ricky is going to win like my signature says.

AllyT
09-20-2007, 08:31 AM
Initially I thought Hatton to be the underdog who had a chance to cause an upset. I have since come round to believing Hatton has the edge.

Hatton is hungrier and sees this as his biggest fight ever whereas Mayweather is coming out of retirement to fight an upstart.

Mayweather is coming across as complacent both at the public press conferences and by entering an American game show. I would have expected him to be more focused. I do not think Hatton should be treated to lightly.

Some of the nonsense about 'hit and hold' Hatton should not influence his opponents camp but I think it has. They have only looked at a small sample of fights to come to what all those who have watched Hatton over the years know is the wrong conclusion. They do not think Hatton can box, they are wrong.

Much has been made of the Collazo fight. This is a mistake for two reasons. Firstly Hatton took this bout at short notice and had to move up a division without the necessary conditioning, this is not the case here. Secondly the hysteria surrounding this bout disguises the fact that Hatton won it clearly. He was caught late on and was sparkled, but he had already dome enough to win the bout and in any case came back strongly after being caught to reassert his dominance.

I do not think Mayweather is quite as agile as he used to be when somewhat younger and lighter. In his last few bouts he has stood toe to toe more than in the past. I thought he was lucky to get the decision against both Costillio and De La Hoya. If he fights like this (I think he will) against Hatton he is on a loser.

Hatton has the air if a man who knows what he is about. He definitely takes Mayweather seriously but genuinely believes he is going to win. I get the impression from Mayweaqther that he is trying to talk himself up betraying some self doubt.

Hatton has got under Mayweathers skin. Hatton wants a war and he is winding Mayweather up to the point where he will get it. I think there is almost no chance of this fight going the distance. I believe you get a lot of hints from the weigh in, press conferences to see who is the most "up for it", so far I say Hatton.

Hatton by KO/TKO middle rounds

Max Molyneux
09-20-2007, 09:25 AM
Mayweather by an easy or at least clear points win.

Hatton's pressure tactics lack defence and he eats punches as he dives In. A fast slick decent counter puncher can exploit that and I think Floyd will. DLH and Castillo's pressure tactics were different to Ricky's.

brown bomber
09-20-2007, 09:55 AM
One things for sure Floyd may have got away with that smiling and showing off when the more measured Castillo and De la Hoya landed their combos but against Hatton he won't. Hatton will just keep throwing. I sincerely believe Mayweather will have to hurt Hatton early with bodyshots to get the victory. Otherwise you have the possibility of Hatton doing most of the work but Mayweather managing the more eyecatching shots..... and you know what that means-' the winner by split decision'... and all the bollocks that goes with it!

elle
09-20-2007, 10:24 AM
I'm going to go with my heart and say Hatton.

I think it suits Hatton to be the underdog as then there is actually more pressure on Mayweather to win the fight. Hopefully, this fight will bring out the best In Hatton - often the tougher your opposition the better you perform and he will need to be at his very best. If he boxes to his strengths, keeps the pressure up and stays close to Mayweather (didn't look comfortable when De La Hoya did) its not impossible for him to win.

As a huge Hatton fan I would be over the moon if he could pull it off
but I also think it would be a victory for boxing as Mayweather comes across as though he believes he is bigger than the sport at the moment. Actions speak louder than words and far from being the chump Mayweather has labelled him I really hope that come Dec 8th Hatton is the champ.

Robbi
09-20-2007, 10:34 AM
Mayweather will win as he's too slick and versatile. Hatton can put all the pressure on he wants, and throw as many punches as he wants. You need to be effective with pressure, and Mayweather has the perfect style to offset Hatton. But at the end of the day, Mayweather will hit Hatton more than the other way around.

My dinner with Conteh
09-20-2007, 10:53 AM
Mayweather seems a class above to me. Hope i'm wrong though.

TBooze
09-20-2007, 11:42 AM
Hatton proved me wrong in the Tszyu fight; I hope he can again

Mayweather TKO10

Robbi
09-20-2007, 12:33 PM
Hatton proved me wrong in the Tszyu fight; I hope he can again

Mayweather TKO10

I picked Hatton to beat Tszyu on points.

achillesthegreat
09-20-2007, 03:51 PM
Mayweather by an easy or at least clear points win.

Hatton's pressure tactics lack defence and he eats punches as he dives In. A fast slick decent counter puncher can exploit that and I think Floyd will. DLH and Castillo's pressure tactics were different to Ricky's.
DLH and Castillos tactics made it close but got them Ls. Hatton is bringing the pain!

nulty
09-20-2007, 04:24 PM
Enough of the maybes and what ifs.... this fight is happening and in little over two months we are going to be sat watching a massive part of boxing history unfold. Does anyone really think that Hatton can pull it off and if so why? I'm a massive fan of both fighters though obviously my support lies strongly with Ricky. What I will say is that I give Hatton has a slight chance to get the upset- I like the way Mayweather sits on the ropes behind his shoulder... but I think Hattons going to like it more. I also think he'll like the fact that on the odd occasion we have seen Mayweather tagged there has been a reaction in his legs -the Judah knockdown, the Corley wobble plus Castillo, De la Hoya and Baldomir all managed to hurt the champion in their fights. I think Floyds best weapon in this fight will be his well timed right over the top counter- and to a lesser degree his jab. I also think he'll be smart enough to make a target of Rickys body. My early thoughts are Mayweather will slow Ricky down the stretch and take a UD but i'm so hoping i'm wrong. Thoughts? :good

I agree, but think Ricky can take it, and will wear floyd down with body shots. If this fight was 15 rounds i'd have no problem picking Ricky. I'm still picking him by stoppage in the championship rounds. Ricky will shock the world.

TBooze
09-20-2007, 04:40 PM
If the fight was 15 rounds i'd have no problem picking Ricky. I'm still picking him by stoppage in the championship rounds. Ricky will shock the world.

The championship rounds are the 13th, 14th and 15th....:huh

The taff
09-20-2007, 04:56 PM
I'd like to say Ricky but i can't see it happening. . Floyd is so hard to hit, it wont be like the zoo fight, even though most thought Ricky would lose that one as well.

I really hope Hatton pulls it off though.

Strike
09-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Mayweather seems a class above to me. Hope i'm wrong though.

Spot on.

Mayweather with ease. I will be cheering on Hatton like I have never cheered on any fighter but he is getting raped.

achillesthegreat
09-21-2007, 03:25 AM
Hattons the best of the best, the creme de la creme, 43 have tried, 43 have failed.... lol.

lenzo
09-21-2007, 03:30 AM
Brain says Floyd, heart wants Hatton.
Wallet says: No bets.
I've always liked the underdog aggressor when against a runner boxer.
Please shut Floyd's foul trap.

Jack Dempsey
09-21-2007, 04:24 AM
Mayweather by UD or possibly by TKO on cuts

I'd love to see Hatton win this but I just can't seem him outpointing or knocking Floyd out

nulty
09-21-2007, 05:17 AM
The championship rounds are the 13th, 14th and 15th....:huh

In this day and age they're the eleventh and twelfth. :huh

stake501
09-21-2007, 10:26 AM
Spot on.

Mayweather with ease. I will be cheering on Hatton like I have never cheered on any fighter but he is getting raped.

You echo my sentiments exactly

i would just love it (in Keegan stylee) if Hatton beat Mayweather.

But we all know what happened to Newcastle in that premiership race.

For that reason, I will bet on Mayweather.....so I'm a winner whatever the outcome

TBooze
09-21-2007, 04:24 PM
In this day and age they're the eleventh and twelfth. :huh

I know what you are saying... but the championship rounds used to mean a little bit, not now; the phrase is now dead IMO.;)

nulty
09-21-2007, 05:21 PM
I know what you are saying... but the championship rounds used to mean a little bit, not now; the phrase is now dead IMO.;)

I agree, I wish we still had 15 rounds. On all too many ocassions those extra three rounds seperated the the very good from the great.

kerrminator
09-21-2007, 05:40 PM
I think a prime Hatton would struggle to win 4 or 5 rounds against PBF but I may be in the minority when I say I reckon his stamina is not what it used to be- all the weight ballooning is taking its toll imo.

His win over JLC was done with true conviction but the 2 fights previous to that (Collazo, Uruango) showed a sever lack of stamina in the latter rounds. If Hatton can hurt him then Maybe but Floyd has been in with far better opposition imo and has never really shown a ***** in his armour where taking shots is concerned.

I will be cheering like a madman for Hatton come fight night but I just cannot see any way in which he can win

mmickyward
09-21-2007, 06:29 PM
Hatton on points. yEAH FLOYD IS A MASTER BOXER BUT CMON IS RICKY REALLY GOING TO BOX WITH HIM NO WAY. hATTON IS A HIGHLY INTELLIGENT FIGHTER AND WILL STUDY THE CASTILLO AND DE LA HOYA TAPES.wORK OUT A GAME PLAN WITH BILLY GRAHAM AND EXECUTE IT. RICKY WILL HAVE ENDED UP MISSING MORE PUNCHES THAN IN ANY OF HIS FIGHTS BUT HIS WORK RATE,HEART,SELF BELIEF AND SHEER WILL WILL PAY OFF.FLOYDS MASTERFUL BUT NO SUPERMAN

steelem
09-21-2007, 06:41 PM
I really hope for a hatton win - really cant see what the fuss is with mayweather - he has struggled in so many fights now & looks a coward at times - I will be roaring for a hatton victory - p.s watch out for the sick bar in the M.G.M

Olu G. Rotimi
09-21-2007, 06:43 PM
Hatton is going to get stopped by PBF. Hatton is ready made to order for Floyd Junior. Ricky can basically fight only one way. Ask yourself a simple question how many fighters with similar styles to Hatton has PBF beaten and when has Hatton faced anything remotely like PBF. Therein lies the clues. I hate to say it but this might later be viewed as a gross mismatch after the fight has occurred.

steelem
09-21-2007, 06:47 PM
OLU you live in cukoo land

Dunky McCafferty
09-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Hatton is going to get stopped by PBF. Hatton is ready made to order for Floyd Junior. Ricky can basically fight only one way. Ask yourself a simple question how many fighters with similar styles to Hatton has PBF beaten and when has Hatton faced anything remotely like PBF. Therein lies the clues. I hate to say it but this might later be viewed as a gross mismatch after the fight has occurred.

thats the trouble Olu, the Hatton fans wont ask themselves that most simple of questions. Why? cos they are letting their hearts rule their heads. Instead of decent debate, its all "Go on Ricky my son" posts, & vicious abuse of anyone like us who dares to call this fight like it is, a mismatch.

Dunky McCafferty
09-22-2007, 12:19 AM
OLU you live in cukoo land

& look Olu, herein lies the proof. 3 guesses wordwise where this character will be when you are proven right, NEXT TO NOWHERE.

brown bomber
09-22-2007, 06:08 AM
Hatton is going to get stopped by PBF. Hatton is ready made to order for Floyd Junior. Ricky can basically fight only one way. Ask yourself a simple question how many fighters with similar styles to Hatton has PBF beaten and when has Hatton faced anything remotely like PBF. Therein lies the clues. I hate to say it but this might later be viewed as a gross mismatch after the fight has occurred. Hey Olu- hope you are well. I disagree with your point about Mayweather fighting guys similer to Hatton. I reckon Mayweather has fought no one who will match Hattons intensity or workrate. And as the general thoery is that to beat mayweather you have to outwork and bully him out of the fight who better to test this thesis then the best P4P pressure fighter in the world?

brown bomber
09-22-2007, 06:46 AM
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The taff
09-22-2007, 09:48 AM
Interesting interview with Hatton

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The taff
09-22-2007, 09:50 AM
thats the trouble Olu, the Hatton fans wont ask themselves that most simple of questions. Why? cos they are letting their hearts rule their heads. Instead of decent debate, its all "Go on Ricky my son" posts, & vicious abuse of anyone like us who dares to call this fight like it is, a mismatch.

Dunky, thats the worst avatar you've ever had !!

My dinner with Conteh
09-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Hatton proved me wrong in the Tszyu fight; I hope he can again


Me too.

PowerPuncher
09-22-2007, 01:09 PM
It depends how Mayweather fights. IF mayweather is aggressive like he was against Gatti/Hernandez it will be a white wash and Hatton maybe stopped

If Mayweather backs up and waits for his opponent to stop punching like against Delahoya it will be a much closer fight but I still expect Floyd to land the cleaner punches and win the decision

Olu G. Rotimi
09-22-2007, 01:21 PM
& look Olu, herein lies the proof. 3 guesses wordwise where this character will be when you are proven right, NEXT TO NOWHERE.

Exactly Dunky. You cannot reason with some people. However after PBF does a number on Hatton those of us with good judgement would have been vindicated. I can also see from the press conferences especially the one in Manchester that PBF has succeeded in getting under Hatton skin just as he intended.

Olu G. Rotimi
09-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Hey Olu- hope you are well. I disagree with your point about Mayweather fighting guys similer to Hatton. I reckon Mayweather has fought no one who will match Hattons intensity or workrate. And as the general thoery is that to beat mayweather you have to outwork and bully him out of the fight who better to test this thesis then the best P4P pressure fighter in the world?

Jeff mate I am fine. I have been abroad on business but now back in town. I disagree with the theory of beating PBF. I think it will require a skilled boxer puncher similar to PBF who has great timing and variety. If you like something similar to Wilfredo Benitez who would ideally be a southpaw.

Some of the guys PBF has made toast like the peak Castillo, the unbeaten Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel Manfredy etc have had the same or similar intensity if anything I can argue that Castillo and Chavez were better technically than Hatton.

Billy Graham thinks this fight will be like Duran versus Leonard 1. I disagree for starters Hatton has not got the same skill level as Duran and he cannot develop it now. If anything I see this fight along the lines of Azumah versus Jeff Fenech especially the 2nd fight though I gave the first fight to Azumah as well 116 to 112. Hatton can be effective and sensational against certain fighters however he is in trouble against certain types. I was at ringside for his fight againdt Tyzu which many hail as his best. People forget that Tyzu was winning this fight until round 7. Great fighter that Tyzu was his skills, speed and timing are not like PBF's. I am going on the record now to say that PBF will close the show somewhere between rounds 6-10 in a performance similar to his destruction of Gatti and Corrales.

GazOC
09-22-2007, 01:49 PM
vicious abuse of anyone like us who dares to call this fight like it is

You're getting worse Dunky. :lol:

GazOC
09-22-2007, 01:53 PM
OLU you live in cukoo land

'Vicious abuse' indeed!!;)

Pat Breen
09-22-2007, 04:07 PM
I expect Mayweather to win fairly comfortably, but I do see some chance for Hatton.
I'll be cheering for Hatton on the basis that floyd is an absolute cock and is about as humerous as a child suffering from bowel cancer...what the fuck sort of comment is that you asshole..

steelem
09-22-2007, 05:38 PM
'Vicious abuse' indeed!!;)

barely viscious gaz oc

Dunky McCafferty
09-22-2007, 10:06 PM
barely viscious gaz oc

he was being sarcastic Steelem, & its 'vicious' not viscous! BTW, feel free to 'get me back' as I fuck up the spelling of words all the time, just like you!:lol:

Dunky McCafferty
09-22-2007, 10:11 PM
Dunky, thats the worst avatar you've ever had !!

Why? I like that pic, cos you cannot avert that Mayweather gaze, its like giving the Hatton nuthuggers a chance to experience what Ricky is going through day after day, week after week etc...

Im bringing the big fight experience right into their bedrooms:D

Max Molyneux
09-23-2007, 05:32 AM
I think I dreamt that Mayweather would stop Hatton In 3 rounds. It went out like a news report.

FLoyd will make Hatton look like a less superior version of Calzaghe Vs Lacy as FLoyd can never be as good as Joe.

rumour24tiger
09-23-2007, 09:11 AM
Mayweather by an easy or at least clear points win.

Hatton's pressure tactics lack defence and he eats punches as he dives In. A fast slick decent counter puncher can exploit that and I think Floyd will. DLH and Castillo's pressure tactics were different to Ricky's.DLH doesn't know very much about pressure; Hatton does. He may surprise you.

Strike
09-23-2007, 09:12 AM
Mayweater late TKO.

Healy
09-23-2007, 10:14 AM
Im not saying PBF will definatly win, Hatton deserves credit, but im 85% sure Mayweather will win it

I dont know how many times iv seen Floyd find a way to win, against so many defferent fighters. Id say Hatton will eat alot of pun ches on his way in to smother Mayweather, if he doesnt, will i cant see happening it will be interesting to see can Hatton land enough body shots and basically jump on Mayweather enough to drain him. Like i said, cant see it happening, its more likelt that Hatton will struggle to get inside, get left hooks like Castillo did, get no target to hit like Baldomir did and end up confused as to his gameplan as ODLH did.
Cuts could be the reason of stoppage if it turns into a Gatti-PBF type fight, i wouldnt be surprised if Hattons face was well damaged by the end of it.

People also forget about the weight, its 147, remember Hattons last outing at 147, yet PBF is coming down essentially after the Oscar fight. Collazo is no Mayweather, Hatton didnt even win that fight in my opinion, but the main thing i picked out of that fight was Hattons conditioning...he got tried in that fight and also the Urango fight in the last 5ish rounds.

Mayweather on the other hand is one of the fittest athletes iv ever seen. Spends 15 mins rounds with different sparring partners coming in...is probably walking around right now at 155. What weight is Ricky now?

Theres so many reasons i dont see Hatton winning this fight..i hope im right:D

GazOC
09-23-2007, 10:19 AM
You're comparing a shot Gatti to a prime Hatton? :huh


The size thing won't be much of an issue, this time Hatton is training for 147 and Mayweather started his career in the lighter divisions.

Oh, and predicting a fighters face may get damaged in a boxing match isn't really sticking your neck out.;)

Healy
09-23-2007, 10:23 AM
You're comparing a shot Gatti to a prime Hatton? :huh


The size thing won't be much of an issue, this time Hatton is training for 147 and Mayweather started his career in the lighter divisions.

Oh, and predicting a fighters face get damaged in a boxing match isn't really sticking your neck out.;)
Gatti and Hatton aren't one million miles apart. Gatti wasn't completely shot before the fight, he was after.
Remember all the talk Gatti did, he thought he could win the fight.

I didnt compare Hatton and Gatti, i said if the fight turns into the same type of fight.ie-Hatton having no way to get at PBF.

The size wont matter too much, but conditioning will.

Its sticking you neck out saying you expect Hatton to lose on cuts more than likely.

GazOC
09-23-2007, 10:29 AM
Fighters always think they'll win or at least make the right noises. Given what happened with Gomez I'd say Gatti was pretty shot when he faced Mayweather.

Yep, 'stoppage by cuts' is sticking your next out. Fair enough. Predicting facial damage isn't though....;O)

Healy
09-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Fighters always think they'll win or at least make the right noises. Given what happened with Gomez I'd say Gatti was pretty shot when he faced Mayweather.

Yep, 'stoppage by cuts' is sticking your next out. Fair enough. Predicting facial damage isn't though....;O)
what happened with Gomez was two years later

GazOC
09-23-2007, 10:37 AM
He had 3 fights after Mayweather, he beat a journeyman then lost to Baldimir (fair enough) then lost to Gomez. Pretty poor form.