Dan Henderson leaving UFC

[Vitor Belfort]

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Henderson, UFC fail to come to terms

Dan Henderson’s career with the Ultimate Fighting Championship has ground to a close in a contract stalemate, and the former two-division PRIDE champion appears on the verge of signing a deal with the rival Strikeforce promotion.
The two-time former U.S. Olympic wrestler had hoped to use that victory as a springboard to a middleweight title match against Anderson Silva. But Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, weren’t keen on fighting Henderson again and didn’t think he’d done enough to warrant a rematch

UFC president Dana White went back-and-forth on whether he’d make Silva-Henderson II, but said at UFC 103 in Dallas that he would give the next shot at Silva to Vitor Belfort, after Belfort scored a first-round knockout of former middleweight champion Rich Franklin.

[rekcutnevets]

I don't blame Henderson. He is probably the last person to win a round against Silva, and he has won 3 in a row since. Belfort comes in from a long absence from the UFC, wins a fight at a weight above the 185 limit, and Belfort earned the shot?

Fuck that. Go add some credibility to a rival organization, and maybe get a decent pay day while your at it.

[thejokerswild]

I don't blame Henderson. He is probably the last person to win a round against Silva, and he has won 3 in a row since. Belfort comes in from a long absence from the UFC, wins a fight at a weight above the 185 limit, and Belfort earned the shot?

Fuck that. Go add some credibility to a rival organization, and maybe get a decent pay day while your at it.
:deal:deal good stuff.

[OuterDrake]

strike force has to do something about that name. it sounds like a saturday morning cartoon.

The reason i say that , is cause they seem to be gaining momentum. But that name isn't marketable for anything serious than a corny cleshay you'd here from the 80s.

[jimmie]

Henderson vs Mousasi.

[Tko4]

Silva and his manager recently said they didn't want fight Belfort. He didn't want to fight Henderson either. I really think Silva just doesn't want to fight.

Back on topic: Henderson would be a great addition to Strikeforce. The UFC's already pathetic 185-pound division just got even weaker.

[Tuffnutz]

Henderson vs Mousasi.

I'd prefer Hendo vs Silva again and Machida though.

[jimmie]

I'd prefer Hendo vs Silva again and Machida though.

Well you cant always get what you want. Dana cant make up his mind and Anderson doesnt wanna fight anyone.

[Nuke]

Go to Strikeforce Henderson maybe you'll get a title shot there.

[HeavyT]

strike force has to do something about that name. it sounds like a saturday morning cartoon.

The reason i say that , is cause they seem to be gaining momentum. But that name isn't marketable for anything serious than a corny cleshay you'd here from the 80s.

Thankfully, it comes under the Showtime MMA banner most of the time, so Strikeforce doesn't sound too bad.

[Nosbor]

Henderson vs Mousasi.

You beat me to it!

Gegard by upkick!!!

[scurlaruntings]

Yeah buddy!!! Go Strikeforce!!!

[achillesthegreat]

The UFC has shown they are not interested in what is fair but what makes money.

Henderson deserves the rematch. 3 wins in a row since the defeat. Coupled with one being over a vet and the other a young gun. His last fight was devastating. However, Hendo hasn't got peoples juices flowing in the same way Belfort has.

Hendo won a round against Silva but people don't believe that he could get to him like Belfort could.

Belfort is always the guy who can sell. He is continous highlight reel footage. His wins over the likes Silva and Franklin get your juices flowing like no other. They are electrifying.

Henderson v Nate with the winner a definite shot vs Silva/Belfort should've been the key. Put them on the same bill too.

Hendo going to Strikeforce does UFC no favours. The man is a true legend.

Start building Hendo v Le now me thinks :-)

[scurlaruntings]

The UFC doesnt even have a ranking system. Dana makes whatever fights that will make the most money. Is that fair of course not. And yet he has the audacity to berate boxing and its plethora of belts. Well at least boxing has a ranking system. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

[achillesthegreat]

The UFC doesnt even have a ranking system. Dana makes whatever fights that will make the most money. Is that fair of course not. And yet he has the audacity to berate boxing and its plethora of belts. Well at least boxing has a ranking system. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

exactly. no ranking system means you can do whatever you want. a ranking system would hold him accountable.

if they had a ranking system, henderson would be the mandatory and belfort wouldn't be able to be justified.

[phonk]

What's all this shite about Henderson wanting to fight Silva again but Silva not wanting to fight Henderson?

Who the fuck is Henderson to dictate who he'll fight?

He's had his chance at Silva and he got taken out. He should quit bitching and get in line.

Silva is quite simply the man. He's in a position to pick and choose who he wants to fight. That's the kinda privilege that you earn from cleaning house in your respective weight division.

[Kestrel]

I always believe Hendo would upset Silva in a rematch. Damn it I was looking forward to the rematch.

[Kestrel]

Silva is quite simply the man. He's in a position to pick and choose who he wants to fight. That's the kinda privilege that you earn from cleaning house in your respective weight division.

Now now we don't want the UFC to become like Boxing where fighters are becoming cherry pickers. That's not good for the sport.

[Rattler]

exactly. no ranking system means you can do whatever you want. a ranking system would hold him accountable.

if they had a ranking system, henderson would be the mandatory and belfort wouldn't be able to be justified.

So, we can expect Klitschko vs. Klitschko in the sooner rather than the later?

Hopkins vs. Dawson too?

Mosley vs Mayweather?

What good are rankings if the fighters don't hold themselves to it?

Theoretically, it's a nice idea, but if the fighters aren't working for it and the various organizations ignore each other's rankings and work toward the end of their own champions, it's all a fart in the wind.

At the end of the day, the UFC generally gives it's audience what it wants - the fights they hope to see, if the fighters are under the UFC banner... much moreso than boxing, despite it's rankings, does.

[sugarngold]

Hmm. Strikeforce is gaining ground by continuing to bolster their roster.

[jimmie]

What's all this shite about Henderson wanting to fight Silva again but Silva not wanting to fight Henderson?

Who the fuck is Henderson to dictate who he'll fight?

He's had his chance at Silva and he got taken out. He should quit bitching and get in line.

Silva is quite simply the man. He's in a position to pick and choose who he wants to fight. That's the kinda privilege that you earn from cleaning house in your respective weight division.

Noboddy has earned the right to cherry pick I dont care who the fuck he is. Ok he beat Henderson and isnt keen on fighting him but he isnt keen on fighting Belfort and we know he wont fight Machida and he bitched and complained about Wanderlei Silva going to 185 so apparently he doesnt wanna fight anyone.

[Wilhelm]

I have a feeling that he'll end up back in the UFC and that this is all a ploy to get the last ten percent of what he thinks he deserves. I doubt Strikeforce and pay anywhere near what UFC can, and after all the time he's spent chasing a Silva rematch it'd be dumb to give up on it now.

[jimmie]

I have a feeling that he'll end up back in the UFC and that this is all a ploy to get the last ten percent of what he thinks he deserves. I doubt Strikeforce and pay anywhere near what UFC can, and after all the time he's spent chasing a Silva rematch it'd be dumb to give up on it now.

Maybe Strikeforce is willing to pay though ? I think both companys have the money to spend but Dana is tight and would make you beg for a dime while the guys at Strikeforce are like ok we snagged Fedor,Mousasi,Lindland lets keep it up and bring in the legendary Dan Henderson at any cost. If Strikeforce can do that they are moving in a wonderful direction (Hershel Walker aside)

[chuffy]

Maybe Strikeforce is willing to pay though ? I think both companys have the money to spend but Dana is tight and would make you beg for a dime while the guys at Strikeforce are like ok we snagged Fedor,Mousasi,Lindland lets keep it up and bring in the legendary Dan Henderson at any cost. If Strikeforce can do that they are moving in a wonderful direction (Hershel Walker aside)

Nice post Jimmie, I like that :D I agree with Wilhelm, I don't think Hendo's going anywhere. But, if he does, Strikeforce and potentially Henderson - Mousasi would be incredible. :D

[AJAX]

Maybe Strikeforce is willing to pay though ? I think both companys have the money to spend but Dana is tight and would make you beg for a dime while the guys at Strikeforce are like ok we snagged Fedor,Mousasi,Lindland lets keep it up and bring in the legendary Dan Henderson at any cost. If Strikeforce can do that they are moving in a wonderful direction (Hershel Walker aside)

And that's assuming they can really afford it, picking up talent but overpaying for it doesn't help the bottom line. Just ask
Attencio and we'll see what shape Strikeforce is in after Finkel ass rapes them.

[how5er]

I dont belive he will leave UFC, Im maybe slow here but has Rampage really said he is finished????

[Flexb]

Silva thinks he's a rockstar and thinks he's the Roy Jones of MMA. Not quite.

[Vitor Belfort]

The UFC doesnt even have a ranking system. Dana makes whatever fights that will make the most money. Is that fair of course not. And yet he has the audacity to berate boxing and its plethora of belts. Well at least boxing has a ranking system. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.


true that is one weakness the ufc has. Their ranking system just suck. Silva got a title shot after beating Leben:patsch Belfort gets a title shot after beating franklin who's been fighting above 185:patsch Lesnar gets a title shot after 2 fights going 1-1:patsch. UFC ranking is pathetic.

[cdnboxing]

I hope this is not true. Henderson would give Silva the toughest fight at MW in my opinion and he would give a much tougher fight than a majority of LHWs as well.

[jimmie]

true that is one weakness the ufc has. Their ranking system just suck. Silva got a title shot after beating Leben:patsch Belfort gets a title shot after beating franklin who's been fighting above 185:patsch Lesnar gets a title shot after 2 fights going 1-1:patsch. UFC ranking is pathetic.

Well bro there is a reason for all 3 though. Remember when Randy resigned last September we had Nog-Mir fighting for the interim belt in December there really wasnt many guys out there. Heath Herring became a top contender after beating Check Kongo and obviously Brock smashed Herring and has a hugr name and personality. Doesnt make it right but Couture did have to defend his belt agianst someone. Back when Anderson killed Leben you gotta remember Leben was then being groomed as the top Middleweight contender he was 5-0 in the UFC and Franklin had already cleaned out the rest of a thin divison. Belfort doesnt deserve a title shot IMO but Dana clearly didnt want Marquardt or Henderson to get a title shot agian which is bull especially in the Henderson case you make this guy go on a coach a 6 week run of TUF and what is his reward ? A fight with Bisping who wasnt even a top 5 contender. Every coach on TUF gets a title shot out of it or gets to try and smash his arch rival out of it WTF did Hendo get out of it ? A brutal BRUTAL KO that cant even raise his pay by 10 percent that he deserves.

[BewareofDawg]

strike force has to do something about that name. it sounds like a saturday morning cartoon.

The reason i say that , is cause they seem to be gaining momentum. But that name isn't marketable for anything serious than a corny cleshay you'd here from the 80s.
:patsch Cliche?

[cdnboxing]

Well bro there is a reason for all 3 though. Remember when Randy resigned last September we had Nog-Mir fighting for the interim belt in December there really wasnt many guys out there. Heath Herring became a top contender after beating Check Kongo and obviously Brock smashed Herring and has a hugr name and personality. Doesnt make it right but Couture did have to defend his belt agianst someone. Back when Anderson killed Leben you gotta remember Leben was then being groomed as the top Middleweight contender he was 5-0 in the UFC and Franklin had already cleaned out the rest of a thin divison. Belfort doesnt deserve a title shot IMO but Dana clearly didnt want Marquardt or Henderson to get a title shot agian which is bull especially in the Henderson case you make this guy go on a coach a 6 week run of TUF and what is his reward ? A fight with Bisping who wasnt even a top 5 contender. Every coach on TUF gets a title shot out of it or gets to try and smash his arch rival out of it WTF did Hendo get out of it ? A brutal BRUTAL KO that cant even raise his pay by 10 percent that he deserves.

How in the world does Herring become a top contender after beating Cheick Kongo?

Are you aware that the same Herring lost to Noguiera and Jake friggin O'Brien prior to that fight? UFC saw Herring as a gatekeeper nothing more. A gatekeeper who is tailor made for all their young HW prospects because he CANT FIGHT WRESTLERS. And Cain, Carwin and Lesnar all happen to be wrestlers.

Leben wasnt being groomed for anything. They knew his limitations, hes a tough, durable fighter. Thats it. That was a showcase fight for Silva.

[achillesthegreat]

So, we can expect Klitschko vs. Klitschko in the sooner rather than the later?

Hopkins vs. Dawson too?

Mosley vs Mayweather?

What good are rankings if the fighters don't hold themselves to it?

Theoretically, it's a nice idea, but if the fighters aren't working for it and the various organizations ignore each other's rankings and work toward the end of their own champions, it's all a fart in the wind.

At the end of the day, the UFC generally gives it's audience what it wants - the fights they hope to see, if the fighters are under the UFC banner... much moreso than boxing, despite it's rankings, does.

If thoe guys were within one belt then yes more times than not they would fight. We are talking about two MMA in the same org. This is not Le v Silva.

Plus, this has nothing to do with boxing. It is to do with UFC, Belfort, Henderson and Silva.

We must always chase an ideal world. We will never achieve it but in chasing it we will get as close to ideal as possible.

[MaliSlamusrex]

It makes sense for Hendo to be a free agent because he is such a big name in USA, Brazil, Japan and the UK he can make the same if not better money than he does in the UFC and because he is such a big star he could do a lot of jobs like commentary and fight promotions.

[achillesthegreat]

Hendo has the ability not to be a one hit wonder. I don't think he would worry like Bisping would if he left UFC. Hendo is big business. He is a vet and a legend. He can go strikeforce, dream etc and make money. His legacy is in the UFC but if he is going to leave then financially he shouldn't be too bad.

[Aussie_Al]

strike force has to do something about that name. it sounds like a saturday morning cartoon.


Like Power rangers maybe? :lol:

Out of interest, can you Brits get Strike force on the telly there?

[Popkins]

Henderson is an ATG. He has enough clout to leave the UFC and still command good fights, but I hope he stays in the UFC. He could fight Marquhart in an eliminator while Silva fights Belfort, then have his rematch with Silva. Alternatively, there are a few good fights for Hendo at 205 or a 195 catchweight. I hope he doesn't leave, but if he does he goes with his head held high, because he is a legend and maybe hasn't been treated with the respect he has earned.

[Rattler]

If thoe guys were within one belt then yes more times than not they would fight. We are talking about two MMA in the same org. This is not Le v Silva.

Plus, this has nothing to do with boxing. It is to do with UFC, Belfort, Henderson and Silva.

We must always chase an ideal world. We will never achieve it but in chasing it we will get as close to ideal as possible.

I made the point, because you used boxing as the example with it's ranking system; implying (with intention or otherwise) that boxing is better than the UFC because of it.

As you allude to, that may be the ideal, but unless what's being chased gets caught, then the idea that it must be better simply because it's being attempted is incorrect, if the idea is not followed through in the actions of those who are supposed to abide by it.

Is it better than the UFC setup in theory, yes, but it practice, it's not that much better because it doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

[achillesthegreat]

like power rangers maybe? :lol:

Out of interest, can you brits get strike force on the telly there?

no

[achillesthegreat]

I made the point, because you used boxing as the example with it's ranking system; implying (with intention or otherwise) that boxing is better than the UFC because of it.

As you allude to, that may be the ideal, but unless what's being chased gets caught, then the idea that it must be better simply because it's being attempted is incorrect, if the idea is not followed through in the actions of those who are supposed to abide by it.

Is it better than the UFC setup in theory, yes, but it practice, it's not that much better because it doesn't work the way it's supposed to.

Fair enough with the boxing example but I am not implying boxing is better. I am merely alluding to the subject at hand.

The theory is more idealistic than the practice but given that it is within one org and not the sport as a whole then it is containable and achievable.

[scurlaruntings]

Hendo has the ability not to be a one hit wonder. I don't think he would worry like Bisping would if he left UFC. Hendo is big business. He is a vet and a legend. He can go strikeforce, dream etc and make money. His legacy is in the UFC but if he is going to leave then financially he shouldn't be too bad.Hendo established himself as a legend in PRIDE NOT the UFC. He only fought there once in the UFC middleweight tourney years ago.

[achillesthegreat]

Hendo established himself as a legend in PRIDE NOT the UFC. He only fought there once in the UFC middleweight tourney years ago.

I didn't suggest otherwise. Hendo has always been a legend.

[chuffy]

Dan Henderson expects to re-sign with UFC, could meet Nate Marquardt next

Following his UFC 100 knockout victory over Michael Bisping, Dan Henderson found himself in a rare spot for fighters: coming off a UFC win without any contracted fights left.

While UFC officials may have thought a new deal easily could be reached, the two sides apparently have very different opinions regarding what the 39-year-old fighter's services are worth.

But Henderson (25-7 MMA, 5-2 UFC), who earned a base pay of $250,000 ($150,00 of which was a win bonus) for the Bisping win, recently told HDNet's "Inside MMA" that he won't be heading to a rival organization.

"I don't plan on fighting anywhere else," said Henderson, who reportedly met with Strikeforce officials, during the Sept. 18 edition of the show. "It never even entered my mind that I'd be anywhere else. It's just something myself, Dana (White) and the other guys over there at the UFC, we need to sit down and figure it out for my next fight."

Before and after Henderson's win over Bisping in July, White said the former PRIDE champion would likely be the next to challenge for Anderson Silva's middleweight belt. But Silva, who defeated Henderson via second-round submission in March 2008, and his camp have expressed disinterest in a rematch. Silva, meanwhile, is expected to fight Vitor Belfort at UFC 108 in January.

Henderson hinted a fight with Nate Marquardt, a fellow top contender who's also suffered a previous loss to Silva, could be next.

"It doesn't look like it'll be him," Henderson said of Silva. "But my guess is my next two fights will be Marquardt and Anderson Silva. It doesn't matter to me which order they're in."

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[achillesthegreat]

Silva v Belfort
Hendo v Nate

Same bill. Make the fucking fights happen!

Those 2 fights get me pumped. I would be so psyched for a winner v winner. I don't think the underdogs in those fights would be major upsets. Belfort and Nate are live wires that can win.

They are talking about JDS v Gonzaga and Evans v Silva on that card. I think it's 108. That is simply too much. UFC would squash boxing that night. If not in the stats but in the hearts and mind of any true combat fan.

[rekcutnevets]

I hate it for Henderson. Not that he may end up staying with the UFC, but that Silva may not be his next opponent. I see people posting that Henderson had his shot already, but it is not like he's demanding an immediate rematch. Henderson has 3 quality wins in a row since losing to Silva, and he looked as though he is the only person with a chance of being able to compete with Silva when they did fight.

If Henderson defeats Marquardt, which is not out of the realm of possibility, he is by far the most deserving challenger Silva has. The UFC should then mandate Silva fight Henderson, or give up the title at 185. If Marquardt wins, the UFC should make him the mandatory.

[PUMPERG]

Hopefully they could work it out

[Vitor Belfort]

Hopefully they could work it out


There was an interview with dan henderson couple of days ago. He said he wanted more money because his career is coming to an end and he wanted to get paid. I doubt ufc will pay him what he wants so i could see him going to strikeforce.

[LB3000]

Here is the latest, looks like he is on his way to Strikeforce.

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[jimmie]

Here is the latest, looks like he is on his way to Strikeforce.

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Henderson vs Mousasi will be coming :happy

[Vitor Belfort]

Henderson vs Mousasi will be coming :happy


yup i would love to see that fight. I hope cbs would show more free fights especially a henderson vs mousasi showdown.

[jimmie]

yup i would love to see that fight. I hope cbs would show more free fights especially a henderson vs mousasi showdown.

Thats the kind of show they would put on CBS. The Strikeforce card next month with Jacare-Lindland and Thomson-Melendez II is good but not good enough to bring to a national audience and expect big success. Henderson with his time in the UFC mainly the TUF season and the KO over Bisping has got more casual fans loving this guy when before they werent sure about him (hardcore fans know all about him) Henderson is a huge star and could draw big on CBS and gives credibilty cause then you could be watching Mousasi vs Henderson and think ok im pretty sure these guys are just as good as the UFCs best which IMO they are.

[AJAX]

Quote-Scurlauntings-

The UFC doesnt even have a ranking system. Dana makes whatever fights that will make the most money. Is that fair of course not. And yet he has the audacity to berate boxing and its plethora of belts. Well at least boxing has a ranking system. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. End quote.


If your giving boxings rankings system props your a fool, they rank who ever they want where ever they want whichever promoter pays them the most. If you've been following the sport in the last few decades you would know this.

[Vitor Belfort]

Thats the kind of show they would put on CBS. The Strikeforce card next month with Jacare-Lindland and Thomson-Melendez II is good but not good enough to bring to a national audience and expect big success. Henderson with his time in the UFC mainly the TUF season and the KO over Bisping has got more casual fans loving this guy when before they werent sure about him (hardcore fans know all about him) Henderson is a huge star and could draw big on CBS and gives credibilty cause then you could be watching Mousasi vs Henderson and think ok im pretty sure these guys are just as good as the UFCs best which IMO they are.

I'm actually looking forward to the fight card tomorrow night. I just saw the weigh in and it looks good. They got enough talent to compete with ufc. With henderson coming soon it will add more talent.

Fedor vs Rogers
Shields vs Miller
Silva vs Werdum
Mousasi vs sokoudju

[scurlaruntings]

Quote-Scurlauntings-

The UFC doesnt even have a ranking system. Dana makes whatever fights that will make the most money. Is that fair of course not. And yet he has the audacity to berate boxing and its plethora of belts. Well at least boxing has a ranking system. Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. End quote.


If your giving boxings rankings system props your a fool, they rank who ever they want where ever they want whichever promoter pays them the most. If you've been following the sport in the last few decades you would know this.Shut up you twit. It is what it is. At least boxing has a system that has a modicum of flexibility and A RANKING system. Flawed as it may be it exists. The UFC doesnt have one. Dana does what makes the UFC the most cash. Point blank point simple.

[AJAX]

Shut up you twit. It is what it is. At least boxing has a system that has a modicum of flexibility and A RANKING system. Flawed as it may be it exists. The UFC doesnt have one. Dana does what makes the UFC the most cash. Point blank point simple.

And what do you think boxing does you moron??????? Holy fuck are you that stupid or are your UFC hate blinders that bad??? Point blank point simple !

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by scurlaruntings
Shut up you twit. It is what it is. At least boxing has a system that has a modicum of flexibility and A RANKING system. Flawed as it may be it exists. The UFC doesnt have one. Dana does what makes the UFC the most cash. Point blank point simple.
I think I like it better when you log on with your other name, wentz.

Kidding, bygones

I actually agree with you. I believe the UFC does need a ranking system. Like boxing, it could be skewed by popularity. It would still make them have to work to justify their match-ups. The UFC has made the best face the best, from what I can tell. In the future, as they sign more and more fighters, a ranking system may make them more accountable.

[scurlaruntings]

And what do you think boxing does you moron??????? Holy fuck are you that stupid or are your UFC hate blinders that bad??? Point blank point simple !Yeah im real blind so blind to see that boxing has a ranking system and the UFC does not. Goodness sake man take Dana's dick out of your mouth for 2 secs and actually see the Sun. Its real bright when you look up.

[jimmie]

I'm actually looking forward to the fight card tomorrow night. I just saw the weigh in and it looks good. They got enough talent to compete with ufc. With henderson coming soon it will add more talent.

Fedor vs Rogers
Shields vs Miller
Silva vs Werdum
Mousasi vs sokoudju

Yeah this isnt some secound rate show with secound rate talent all of these guys are credible fighters atleast.

Fedor - Pride FC Heavyweight Champion, # 1 rated Heavyweight and p4p fighter currently and all time.

Brett Rogers - Ranked # 6 at Heavyweight by Sherdog and is coming off a 22 secound KO over former UFC Champion Andrei Arlovski.

Jake Shields - # 4 ranked Welterweight, Elite XC Champion, Rumble of the Rock Champion.

Mayhem Miller - Fought all over in the big shows WEC, Dream, UFC etc. Owns wins over the likes of Denis Kang, Robbie Lawler and Tim Kennedy.

Gegard Mousasi - Current Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion, Dream Middleweight Champion, ranked 7th in the world at 205.

Sokoujou - Owns wins over top 10 Light Heavyweights Rogerio Noguiera and Ricardo Arona.

Antonio Silva - The only Elite XC Heavyweight Champion.

Fabrico Werdum - Top 10 ranked Heavyweight for the better part of about 5 years now, defeated top guys such as Aleksander Emelienko, Alistair Overeem, Gabriel Gonzaga 2x and Brandon Vera.

Everyone on the show has excellent MMA credentials and IMO its a better MUCH better card on paper then the UFC PPV last month I think Rothwell-Velasquez pails in comparison as a co main event to any of the 3 Strikeforce undercard bouts. Id pay 50 bucks for this card honestly there isnt one weak fight in anyway.

[Vitor Belfort]

Yeah this isnt some secound rate show with secound rate talent all of these guys are credible fighters atleast.

Fedor - Pride FC Heavyweight Champion, # 1 rated Heavyweight and p4p fighter currently and all time.

Brett Rogers - Ranked # 6 at Heavyweight by Sherdog and is coming off a 22 secound KO over former UFC Champion Andrei Arlovski.

Jake Shields - # 4 ranked Welterweight, Elite XC Champion, Rumble of the Rock Champion.

Mayhem Miller - Fought all over in the big shows WEC, Dream, UFC etc. Owns wins over the likes of Denis Kang, Robbie Lawler and Tim Kennedy.

Gegard Mousasi - Current Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion, Dream Middleweight Champion, ranked 7th in the world at 205.

Sokoujou - Owns wins over top 10 Light Heavyweights Rogerio Noguiera and Ricardo Arona.

Antonio Silva - The only Elite XC Heavyweight Champion.

Fabrico Werdum - Top 10 ranked Heavyweight for the better part of about 5 years now, defeated top guys such as Aleksander Emelienko, Alistair Overeem, Gabriel Gonzaga 2x and Brandon Vera.

Everyone on the show has excellent MMA credentials and IMO its a better MUCH better card on paper then the UFC PPV last month I think Rothwell-Velasquez pails in comparison as a co main event to any of the 3 Strikeforce undercard bouts. Id pay 50 bucks for this card honestly there isnt one weak fight in anyway.

True and don't forget alistair overeem.. the heavyweight champion?
add gilbert melendez-frank shamrock-randleman-babalu-whitehead-nick diaz-lindland-robby lawler-scott smith-heiron-joe riggs-thomson- etc They got enough talent.

[jimmie]

True and don't forget alistair overeem.. the heavyweight champion?
add gilbert melendez-frank shamrock-randleman-babalu-whitehead-nick diaz-lindland-robby lawler-scott smith-heiron-joe riggs-thomson- etc They got enough talent.

And Marius Zaromskis and apparently Shinya Aoki in early 2010.

[AJAX]

Yeah im real blind so blind to see that boxing has a ranking system and the UFC does not. Goodness sake man take Dana's dick out of your mouth for 2 secs and actually see the Sun. Its real bright when you look up.

The real problem is no matter what subject comes up you bring up Dana and the UFC, Your obsession with Dana is scary, It's almost as bad as Wentz's obseesion with Zuffa. If somebody talks about WW2 you bring up Dana and blame the UFC. A ranking system doesn't always work. Would Anderson Silva got his title shot after beating Leben if you had a ranking system?? NO, that's why common sense has to overrule a ranking system syetem at times.

Loose your obsession with Dana!, you've been on a propaganda attack on the UFC for years now, your nearing troll status.

[scurlaruntings]

The real problem is no matter what subject comes up you bring up Dana and the UFC, Your obsession with Dana is scary, It's almost as bad as Wentz's obseesion with Zuffa. If somebody talks about WW2 you bring up Dana and blame the UFC. A ranking system doesn't always work. Would Anderson Silva got his title shot after beating Leben if you had a ranking system?? NO, that's why common sense has to overrule a ranking system syetem at times.

Loose your obsession with Dana!, you've been on a propaganda attack on the UFC for years now, your nearing troll status.Nope your correct. Boxing has been using ranking systems for well over a century but they dont work :lol::roll:

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Nope your correct. Boxing has been using ranking systems for well over a century but they dont work :lol::roll:
John Ruiz in line for another Title shot coming up next. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T WORK!

[scurlaruntings]

John Ruiz in line for another Title shot coming up next. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T WORK!Negative. If John Ruiz has earned his ranking and right then he DESERVES the fight. Ruiz is an extreme example as he's no ones kettle of fish. But that view is hardly dissimilar to what Dana used to think of Machida.