View Full Version : Judge's are beyond Corrupted!!! What A Rotten Shame!!!
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:19 PM
Froch Can't Win On His Own!!!!! So his judge's have to give him the Fight, What a rotten shame, they should be f cken shot , Derrell won the fight fair and square and they do this to this young man I wish they rott in hell
they are nothing but a piece of shit.....
The only way a fighter from their country can win is to fight their fuckum all....... I have been a boxing fan for over 40 years and I go see fights all over the world and after tonight with this corruption IM done Fuck you judge's of this fight I hope you get cheated out of something dearly in life
just like you cheated this young man..............
GazOC
10-17-2009, 11:23 PM
The judges wern't Brits......
46and0
10-17-2009, 11:24 PM
Froch's post-fight interview was extremely classless. He gave no credit to his opponent who outboxed him and made him look like a fool. It was a hometown decision of the highest order, bent as fuck. And it has now put serious question marks over the integrity of the tournament.
Dirrell was humble in defeat, he has every right to be outraged, but just said he will come back stronger to win a title. He has ten times the class Froch has. I expected better from Froch, I thought he was a down to earth guy but he came across as arrogant, when in reality he knows he got outboxed.
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:24 PM
The judges wern't Brits......
No, They were corrupt!!!!!!
Healy
10-17-2009, 11:26 PM
Froch's post-fight interview was extremely classless. He gave no credit to his opponent who outboxed him and made him look like a fool. It was a hometown decision of the highest order, bent as fuck. And it has now put serious question marks over the integrity of the tournament.
Dirrell was humble in defeat, he has every right to be outraged, but just said he will come back stronger to win a title. He has ten times the class Froch has. I expected better from Froch, I thought he was a down to earth guy but he came across as arrogant, when in reality he knows he got outboxed.
:good
PatrickP
10-17-2009, 11:26 PM
Froch Can't Win On His Own!!!!! So his judge's have to give him the Fight, What a rotten shame, they should be f cken shot , Derrell won the fight fair and square and they do this to this young man I wish they rott in hell
they are nothing but a piece of shit.....
The only way a fighter from their country can win is to fight their fuckum all....... I have been a boxing fan for over 40 years and I go see fights all over the world and after tonight with this corruption IM done Fuck you judge's of this fight I hope you get cheated out of something dearly in life
just like you cheated this young man..............
Dirrell won that fight hands down. That was an out and out robbery. Your boy exposed Froch tonight, Dirrell was outclassing him from start to finish. This tournament is officially a sham thanks to that decision.
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:30 PM
Froch's post-fight interview was extremely classless. He gave no credit to his opponent who outboxed him and made him look like a fool. It was a hometown decision of the highest order, bent as fuck. And it has now put serious question marks over the integrity of the tournament.
Dirrell was humble in defeat, he has every right to be outraged, but just said he will come back stronger to win a title. He has ten times the class Froch has. I expected better from Froch, I thought he was a down to earth guy but he came across as arrogant, when in reality he knows he got outboxed.
Froch Ever fights dirrell again he will get Koed esay!!!!! Froch is not a good fighter he will get koed soon ,I wish him all the bad luck that I can He is a no class peice o shit...
trotter
10-17-2009, 11:31 PM
Froch Ever fights dirrell again he will get Koed esay!!!!! Froch is not a good fighter he will get koed soon ,I wish him all the bad luck that I can He is a no class peice o shit...
lol Dirrell won't be KOing anyone fighting like that
I don't think they were corrupt, Mick Hennessy doesn't have that type of influence.
Swayed by the home town and ridicuously favourable towards aggression.
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:32 PM
Dirrell won that fight hands down. That was an out and out robbery. Your boy exposed Froch tonight, Dirrell was outclassing him from start to finish. This tournament is officially a sham thanks to that decision.
:good Thanks !! Im just outraged..
JonOli
10-17-2009, 11:33 PM
Both point deductions tonight, in the JT/AA fight and Froch's, stank of overzealous home cooking too. Sure they were technically right but...
Point deductions can change a boxers game plan and attitude.
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:34 PM
lol Dirrell won't be KOing anyone fighting like that
You dont know anything about him, he has Ko power, and sure did wobble froch!!!
Both point deductions tonight, in the JT/AA fight and Froch's, stank of overzealous home cooking too. Sure they were technically right but...
Point deductions can change a boxers game plan and attitude.
Taylor punched him in the nuts square on the first time, and was always on the threshold of being too low. I don't think he could have any complaints.
Dirrell was holding a lot, I thought it was for that which would have been okay but apparently it was for leaning. Froch should also have had a point for constant rabbit punching and throwing Dirrell.
Carnage
10-17-2009, 11:41 PM
I don't think they were corrupt, Mick Hennessy doesn't have that type of influence.
Swayed by the home town and ridicuously favourable towards aggression.
I've just come from the fight and yes it was a very close fight but looking at it now, Dirrell ran and held all fight, it wasn't a great fight by him as people suggest.
JonOli
10-17-2009, 11:41 PM
Taylor punched him in the nuts square on the first time, and was always on the threshold of being too low. I don't think he could have any complaints.
Dirrell was holding a lot, I thought it was for that which would have been okay but apparently it was for leaning. Froch should also have had a point for constant rabbit punching and throwing Dirrell.
Yea, the first one was low no doubts, but the others I saw didn't look decidedly low.
I just thought the point deductions were handed out with little warning (I know they got a warning), but normally you see them talked to a lot more.
As you say, Froch was rabbit punching all night. IMO, he was a worse culprit at that than Dirrell's clinging/leaning.
How many times do you see points deducted for holding or leaning? I can't think of many occasions. People like Hatton and Wlad (for leaning), would end up pointless...
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:42 PM
It came down to no matter what happen in this fight Fagot Froch was going to win and that was how the story was wrote....
djoc175
10-17-2009, 11:45 PM
I've just come from the fight and yes it was a very close fight but looking at it now, Dirrell ran and held all fight, it wasn't a great fight by him as people suggest.
Ask yourself,who was more effective?Who landed the more meaningful shots?Who hit fresh air all night?
The only thing Froch has going for him is aggression-ineffective mind and he was the champion in his hometown-that goes with the preconceived notion that you have to really beat the champion to win the belt,but if we look at it in the cold light of day Dirrell was winning the rounds
JonOli
10-17-2009, 11:45 PM
PS I forgot to mention Froch's judo moves too.:D
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:46 PM
I've just come from the fight and yes it was a very close fight but looking at it now, Dirrell ran and held all fight, it wasn't a great fight by him as people suggest.
And do you think froch fought a better fight he barely through a punch and he never hurt Derrell, But Derrell wobbled him twice.....
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:48 PM
Ask yourself,who was more effective?Who landed the more meaningful shots?Who hit fresh air all night?
The only thing Froch has going for him is aggression-ineffective mind and he was the champion in his hometown.
Right!! he knew no matter what at the end of the night their was no way he would lose on the score card.....
Yea, the first one was low no doubts, but the others I saw didn't look decidedly low.
I just thought the point deductions were handed out with little warning (I know they got a warning), but normally you see them talked to a lot more.
As you say, Froch was rabbit punching all night. IMO, he was a worse culprit at that than Dirrell's clinging/leaning.
How many times do you see points deducted for holding or leaning? I can't think of many occasions. People like Hatton and Wlad (for leaning), would end up pointless...
Dirrell's was especially blatant holding I suppose. He actually jumped across to meet Froch with the intention of holding him. Anyway, if you hold consistently you are playing with fire, you don't know what kind of referee you'll get. Some interpret it loosely, I prefer it when they are stricter on these matters when it gets to ridiculous levels.
How Froch didn't get a point for throwing him or rabbit punching I'll never know, he seemed to get told a few times to clean it up but never did.
People are influenced by crowds for sure.
djoc175
10-17-2009, 11:51 PM
Right!! he knew no matter what at the end of the night their was no way he would lose on the score card.....
I don't neccessarily agree with that.
Read my post again I added to it.I thought Dirrell won,he did what he had to do to win enough rounds to win the fight.It was ugly but Dirrell can feel hard done by IMO
jordan1
10-17-2009, 11:52 PM
Dirrell's was especially blatant holding I suppose. He actually jumped across to meet Froch with the intention of holding him. Anyway, if you hold consistently you are playing with fire, you don't know what kind of referee you'll get. Some interpret it loosely, I prefer it when they are stricter on these matters when it gets to ridiculous levels.
How Froch didn't get a point for throwing him or rabbit punching I'll never know, he seemed to get told a few times to clean it up but never did.
People are influenced by crowds for sure.
:thumbsup
KingCobra
10-18-2009, 12:37 AM
Yea, the first one was low no doubts, but the others I saw didn't look decidedly low.
I just thought the point deductions were handed out with little warning (I know they got a warning), but normally you see them talked to a lot more.
As you say, Froch was rabbit punching all night. IMO, he was a worse culprit at that than Dirrell's clinging/leaning.
How many times do you see points deducted for holding or leaning? I can't think of many occasions. People like Hatton and Wlad (for leaning), would end up pointless...
Dirrell was holding then turning his head as Froch was throwing. If Froch was rabbit punching it was due to Dirrells constant clinching.
Dirrell was holding then turning his head as Froch was throwing. If Froch was rabbit punching it was due to Dirrells constant clinching.
Its not an if, its a fact...he did rabbit punch. There is a reason why its against the rules, its dangerous.
He also threw Dirrell to the ground, I mean he actually picked him up and threw him, I thought he was doing a Suplex for a second.
Froch did enough to earn himself a deduction absolutely no doubt.
Farmboxer
10-18-2009, 02:53 AM
Dirrel was bleed from the mouth and nose. Dirrel kept falling down on canvas, holding, complaining, running like Hell!
Max Molyneux
10-18-2009, 02:55 AM
Dirrel was bleed from the mouth and nose. Dirrel kept falling down on canvas, holding, complaining, running like Hell!
You defend those tatics when Wlad does it though!:rofl
The sound of Froch getting exposed is music to my ears!:happy
Farmboxer
10-18-2009, 02:58 AM
If you are a Dirrel fan, you had never try to complain about Vlad holding. Vitali and Vlad knock their opponents out.
You do not get points by holding, running, falling down on canvas, complaining, you have to fight.
Max Molyneux
10-18-2009, 03:04 AM
Wlad wins his fights by KO but he still over excessively holds when ever they get close and has no inside fighting at all.
icemax
10-18-2009, 03:10 AM
Froch Can't Win On His Own!!!!! So his judge's have to give him the Fight, What a rotten shame, they should be f cken shot , Derrell won the fight fair and square and they do this to this young man I wish they rott in hell
they are nothing but a piece of shit.....
The only way a fighter from their country can win is to fight their fuckum all....... I have been a boxing fan for over 40 years and I go see fights all over the world and after tonight with this corruption IM done Fuck you judge's of this fight I hope you get cheated out of something dearly in life
just like you cheated this young man..............
Get a fucking life :deal
icemax
10-18-2009, 03:11 AM
Dirrell won that fight hands down. That was an out and out robbery. Your boy exposed <<<<<<
Most discerning boxing fans would have stopped reading at that point^^^
bennie
10-18-2009, 03:46 AM
Sounds like a bit of stinker all round. Two questions: was it a good fight to watch? Did Dirrell blatantly get robbed?
Jack Dempsey
10-18-2009, 04:06 AM
I fell asleep waiting for it to start and only saw it from Round 6
bennie
10-18-2009, 04:59 AM
Dirrell and the tactics employed by his corner are what defeated Dirrell. If he had have showed a different mentality, his ability would have won him the fight, as it was, he tried to steal a decision and failed. He ran mercileslly for 12 rounds, sometimes going 20-25 seconds refusing to engage with Froch - yes his footwork was excellent, and his head movement made Froch miss, but sorry folks, this DOES NOT win rounds. He was persistantly hugging, not only hugging, but hugging then pushing Froch into the ropes then holding the ropes forcing the referee to physically break. This was happening multiple times every round. He also fell to his knees on about 4 occasions for no reason. Even the referee was looking at him as if to say "come on dude, cut this shit out". Every time he clinched with Froch he would turn his head, or duck low - this is where he would get caught on the back of the head.
Its a shame, because he has fantasic skills, and lightening speed, but you cannot wrestle a world title away from someone with such an abject display of negativity. When Mayweather is putting on a back foot masterclass, he is doing so behind a beautiful jab which is winning him rounds - Dirrell never worked off a jab, preffering just to run. Sorry kid, you'll never win world titles fighting like that
Cheers. I remember Jimmy Young ducking his head between the ropes on four occasions to avoid punches from a 'shot' Ali. His blatant shows of negatativity undoubtedly cost Jimmy the fight.
punchdrunkgench
10-18-2009, 05:02 AM
if want to watch men running i will pop to youtube and download clips of bolts recent races in a boxing ring i want to see fighters fight dirrells attempts at being a poor mans sugar ray leonard backfired and rightly so he is a mixture between a 200meter runner and a guest on strictly come dancing. froch didnt fight well and probably didnt deserve to win however at least he was there to fight and i feel the judges had enough of all dirrels antics and taught him a lesson by giving the fight to froch, still i think this will all be forgotten wen froch fights kessler and aa which will be old fashion tear ups
Doppleganger
10-18-2009, 05:22 AM
Froch was being a dirty cunt in there and probably should have had a point deducted for rabbit punching. However, the decision was hardly a disgrace. It was a close fight IMO with Dirrell wining by 1 round. In the last 2 rounds Dirrell demonstrated that he's a good offensive fighter when he plants his feet. Dirrell hurt Carl more than Carl hurt him.
Rangersfan1982
10-18-2009, 05:46 AM
Dirrel didn't do enough to win the belt. You need to do more than run and clinch to beat a champion.
And do you think froch fought a better fight he barely through a punch and he never hurt Derrell, But Derrell wobbled him twice.....
i thought dirrell won, but he did get properly hurt once in the fight. can't remember the round but he spent the rest of it holding on. :huh
mrbassie
10-18-2009, 09:09 AM
How many times do you see points deducted for holding or leaning? I can't think of many occasions. People like Hatton and Wlad (for leaning), would end up pointless...
They should.
watpoae
10-18-2009, 09:13 AM
Dirrel didn't do enough to win the belt. You need to do more than run and clinch to beat a champion.
I don't get that argument at all. What does it matter whether hes a champion or not? He outscored him and won the fight.
Bunce was saying exactly the same last night. Take away for the titles though, boxer against boxer, Dirrell clearly won the fight. That's all that should matter.
John18
10-18-2009, 09:51 AM
He didn't outclass Froch from start to finish....he ran like a girl for the first 3 rounds. It was only in the 4th that he actually started to put it together, real elusive boxing.
I had it as a draw and wouldn't have argued with the decision going in either direction as it was difficult to score.......do you score for the guy who landed 5 jabs and ran for the duration of the round or for the guy who landed 1, missed 23 and chased him round the ring?
John18
10-18-2009, 09:52 AM
Just to add, I did feel a bit sorry for Dirrell as he was much better than his other fights suggested.
But it wasa split decision, itsnot as if he was handed an Ottke decision.
dan-b
10-18-2009, 11:08 AM
I watched again this morning and scored 115-112 for Dirrell. I didn't score live but my overall impression was that Dirrell won. Some of the rounds were close, particularly the 2nd, but there's no way Dirrell lost 7 rounds.
El Cepillo
10-18-2009, 11:10 AM
More incompotence than corruption.
jordan1
10-18-2009, 11:49 AM
Froch in post fight interview acted like he schooled Derrell, Froch is a Cunt what a piece of shit!!!! he was given a Gift and he should be thankful!!!!
threethirteen
10-18-2009, 11:55 AM
let's take a moment: if you've been watching fights for 40 years, then you must be in your 40s. Grow up, act your age and stop taking it so personally.
Next, the name is spelt Dirrell. Not Derell.
Finally, I didn't like the rabbit punching and actually felt Froch could have just launched some hooks to the sides of Dirrell's head or gone round the kidneys. But hey, I'm not in there.
jordan1
10-18-2009, 10:11 PM
let's take a moment: if you've been watching fights for 40 years, then you must be in your 40s. Grow up, act your age and stop taking it so personally.
Next, the name is spelt Dirrell. Not Derell.
Finally, I didn't like the rabbit punching and actually felt Froch could have just launched some hooks to the sides of Dirrell's head or gone round the kidneys. But hey, I'm not in there.
Ya I take it personal when I have ten of thousands $$$ on this fight it is personal!!!! So Fuck Off!!!!
unorthodox
10-18-2009, 11:31 PM
you should use some of your betting money to learn how to spell man...
jordan1
10-18-2009, 11:48 PM
you should use some of your betting money to learn how to spell man...
You Talking about the judges!!!!
Farmboxer
10-19-2009, 02:30 AM
Froch tried to make it a fight, but Dirrell ran, held, kept falling to the canvas, and complaining. Judges should not give points for that.
icemax
10-19-2009, 03:53 AM
Ya I take it personal when I have ten of thousands $$$ on this fight it is personal!!!! So Fuck Off!!!!
Get a proper job you opportunistic cunt...I hope you lost the lot :deal
RebelBhoy
10-19-2009, 04:49 AM
lol
If you have ten of thousands (sic) of $$$ on a fight like this, then surely you factored in the possibility that there may be a hometown decision and did some proper research? either that, or you can well afford to lose, in which case why all the rage?
I had Direll winning by 2, but my opinion doesnt count for much. It was a difficult fight to score for many reasons. Its hardly the greatest robbery in the history of the world. Direll was stoical in his reaction to the decision. He lost a lot more than you. Perhaps you could show similar dignity instead of blackening the name of the judges who scored the fight as they saw it.
threethirteen
10-19-2009, 05:11 AM
Ya I take it personal when I have ten of thousands $$$ on this fight it is personal!!!! So Fuck Off!!!!
Then you're an idiot for betting big on Dirrell based on his previous showings. You took a genuine gamble and it didn't play out in a CLOSE fight - shit happens, you're obviously not very experienced as a gamble.
threethirteen
10-19-2009, 05:13 AM
Oh, and that dopey prick at The Ring, Micahel Rosenthal, is taking time off from insulting the far superior George Kimball and moved onto implying he's better at scoring fights than professional judges.
He's the weakest link in The Ring's online presence. Considering how good Doug Fischer is, how they ended up with a biased jackass like Rosenthal as their senior editor is beyond me.
icemax
10-19-2009, 05:53 PM
Ya I take it personal when I have ten of thousands $$$ on this fight it is personal!!!! So Fuck Off!!!!
This guy has just sent me a PM inviting me to suck his dick....from high roller to rent boy in the course of one fight :-( The loss must have hit him hard :yep
Beeston Brawler
10-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Like any stupid cunt would really put $10k on a fight like this....
*** Attention Whore Alert ***
:lol:
GazOC
10-19-2009, 05:57 PM
Ya I take it personal when I have ten of thousands $$$ on this fight it is personal!!!! So Fuck Off!!!!
Heres a tip. Never bet an amount thats going to cause you act like a big kid if you lose it.
KingCobra
10-19-2009, 05:57 PM
Like any stupid cunt would really put $10k on a fight like this....
*** Attention Whore Alert ***
:lol:
Still, I hope the fucker did blow his wad on Direll!!! :lol:
KingCobra
10-19-2009, 05:58 PM
This guy has just sent me a PM inviting me to suck his dick....from high roller to rent boy in the course of one fight :-( The loss must have hit him hard :yep
:good:lol:
Beeston Brawler
10-19-2009, 06:17 PM
Whoever you are, Mr Jordan1.....
Fuck off to the General where you belong.
Posting on the British forum is by invitation only :deal
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