Elite XC : A Company on the rise!

[geppy]

I think Elite XC will be the organization that will challange the UFC , now with White buying Pride. Elite XC is promoted by Gary Shaw, who has the money ( to get good fighters) and expericance to have good fight cards. Elite XC has a Showtime contract, which is major. They can have cards on Showtime, then major events on Showtime PPV. I like the future of this company , and expect it to grow into the UFC's rival.

I wouldnt be surprised to see good fighters like Tito Ortiz , Josh Barnett, etc, who are on bad terms with White, go to Elite XC.

What is you opinion's of Elite XC ?

[geppy]

All of the cards have been exciting, and I expect to see some good fighters go to Elite XC.

[boxingcar]

right now , i'm keeping an eye on K1's Heros.
and will even more so if the likes of barnett & fed will fight over there.

[geppy]

right now , i'm keeping an eye on K1's Heros.
and will even more so if the likes of barnett & fed will fight over there.


Indeed , K'1 heroes is already a major organization, that puts on exceptional cards. But like Pride , K1 Heroes has little exposure in the USA , but is massive in Japan.

I think Elite XC can possibly rival the UFC in the United States. Which is something Pride was starting to do before unfortunatly White bought Pride.

[amhlilhaus]

unfortunantly eltie xc is already in financial trouble, they're publicly traded which will actually HURT THEM as they won't be able to as easily find new sources of cash for operations. they have a few things going for them, as they've bought a lot of small groups and have working arrangements with several other groups, and the showtime deal is huge, something ufc doesn't have which they want. as for the fighters, they've got a long way to go before they can groom fighters to rival the popularity of the ufc, and will have to go along piecemeal with people regarded as ufc castoffs. ufc has DEEP pockets and anyone who's got real potential would want to fight ufc right now as it's regarded as the top level in mma.

I hope elite can compete and keep monopoly away from mma.

[geppy]

unfortunantly eltie xc is already in financial trouble, they're publicly traded which will actually HURT THEM as they won't be able to as easily find new sources of cash for operations. they have a few things going for them, as they've bought a lot of small groups and have working arrangements with several other groups, and the showtime deal is huge, something ufc doesn't have which they want. as for the fighters, they've got a long way to go before they can groom fighters to rival the popularity of the ufc, and will have to go along piecemeal with people regarded as ufc castoffs. ufc has DEEP pockets and anyone who's got real potential would want to fight ufc right now as it's regarded as the top level in mma.

I hope elite can compete and keep monopoly away from mma.

Having Showtime is huge! I know that boxing gets a budget of millions of dollars to put on cards for Showtime. I am not sure what Elite is getting , but I am sure it is not peanuts.

[geppy]

Im sorry but Elite xc is a huge disapointment. Their commentators are the worst I have ever heard. I mean they actually ruin the broadcast there so fucking bad. Goldberg should stay away from mma. Then you have 20 mins. of the show taken up by trashy street whores pole dancing. When you get to the fights, which can be exciting I will grant you, your left with the feeling that your watching ufc/pride cast offs. Because, in fact, you are. Showtime needs to step up and retool this thing. Make it a professional org. by getting rid of the d level annouce team, the corny theatrics and develoing some of thier own talent. Ufc needs a rival org. for the good of the sport but these guys have a long way to go.

You think Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg are great annoucers?

Elite should get Bas Rutten, he is the best annoucer, period ! Elite has the other guy that worked with Bas at Pride, he is pretty good too.

Whith all that you said, I bet you will still watch Elite XC when it is on? It is MMA , the fights are good, and is much better than most other shows on tv.

[achillesthegreat]

Wise men would ignore these companies now or face the turmoil boxing is in.

UFC champ is now linear (once the champs unify). After that, nothing matters - K1, EliteXC or whatever these companies are.

Generally UFC is failing anyone, they give the bouts that matter.

[scurlaruntings]

Wise men would ignore these companies now or face the turmoil boxing is in.

UFC champ is now linear (once the champs unify). After that, nothing matters - K1, EliteXC or whatever these companies are.

Generally UFC is failing anyone, they give the bouts that matter.Bit of a naive way of seeing things when there are MAJOR players in the K1..:patsch

[AJAX]

Bit of a naive way of seeing things when there are MAJOR players in the K1..:patsch

I don't know about "Major" players, there is some good fighters there, but mostly the ones that dana didn't want.

[achillesthegreat]

Bit of a naive way of seeing things when there are MAJOR players in the K1..:patsch
You are all helping to bring down MMA then. Pretty much everyone looked at Pride and UFC as the two top dogs. Even you did. Now I am hearing more about K1 etc Admittingly I think I heard of K1 before Pride and UFC but UFC and Pride were the premier players.

Now that they have merged if you all let K1, Cage, Elite etc get big then don't blame anyone in ten or fifteen years when MMA is in the exact same position as boxing.

WBO and IBF should be nobodies but eventually the fighters, fans, promoters etc gave them legitimacy and now boxing is suffering more and more.

[geppy]

Wise men would ignore these companies now or face the turmoil boxing is in.

UFC champ is now linear (once the champs unify). After that, nothing matters - K1, EliteXC or whatever these companies are.

Generally UFC is failing anyone, they give the bouts that matter.

Go ahead , be a pawn then. Jesus christ, only watch the UFC, even if there is great fights to watch from another organization. They have had some good fights. Lawler vs Ninja Rua , Frank Shamrock vs Baroni (Great , great fight) , Shamrock vs Renzo Gracie, K.J Noons KTFO of ( Andre Berto's undefeated brother) Edson Berto.

[achillesthegreat]

Go ahead , be a pawn then. Jesus christ, only watch the UFC, even if there is great fights to watch from another organization. They have had some good fights. Lawler vs Ninja Rua , Frank Shamrock vs Baroni (Great , great fight) , Shamrock vs Renzo Gracie, K.J Noons KTFO of ( Andre Berto's undefeated brother) Edson Berto.
I'll enjoy the fights but jus tbeware. Shamrock v Baroni was amazing.

But don't complain in ten years. I'll tell you - you made your bed now sleep in it.

[geppy]

I'll enjoy the fights but jus tbeware. Shamrock v Baroni was amazing.

But don't complain in ten years. I'll tell you - you made your bed now sleep in it.

No one is comparing the UFC belt , compared to the Elite Xc belt. Just enjoy the fights, christ. Lawler vs Ninja Rua, and Shamrock vs Baroni was better action then 95 % of MMA fights you will see any where.

[scurlaruntings]

You are all helping to bring down MMA then. Pretty much everyone looked at Pride and UFC as the two top dogs. Even you did. Now I am hearing more about K1 etc Admittingly I think I heard of K1 before Pride and UFC but UFC and Pride were the premier players.

Now that they have merged if you all let K1, Cage, Elite etc get big then don't blame anyone in ten or fifteen years when MMA is in the exact same position as boxing.

WBO and IBF should be nobodies but eventually the fighters, fans, promoters etc gave them legitimacy and now boxing is suffering more and more.Its the same meat diffrent gravy achilles.I dont really care much for the UFC format and will always be a PRIDE fanboy thats my bia. The eastern format is just so much more of a pleasure to watch and Hero`s WILL fill the vacuum that PRIDE left wether you like it or not.They have legit fighters and legit world champions in there own right.

We can all expect a perfect world but this is the fight game and naturally the disparitys go with the territory.No one cares much for Cage rage, Elite XC, but for a dead cert Hero`s can no longer be ignored as a mere freakshow.But by the same token there are some very decent scraps that are happening in other orgs other than what the UFC have to offer. Dana isnt stupid his a smart astute businessman akin to Frank Warren.And i assure you Dana will tread the same path that Warren has.

[achillesthegreat]

You guys need to see the point I'm making.

I'm sure their fights are good, I enjoy em just like you do.

HOWEVER these orgs will slowly grow, purchase better fighters and gain credibility and legitimacy.

UFC and Pride established the game, brought in the mainstream and created the foundation and history for MMA.

When in ten years Cage, Elite and co start to rock the 'foundation and history' of MMA and YOUR sport begins to die then you have made your bed and you will be forced to sleep in it. Just like boxing fans are now having to suffer for embracing garbage like the WBO, IBF, Ring blah blah blah

[scurlaruntings]

You guys need to see the point I'm making.

I'm sure their fights are good, I enjoy em just like you do.

HOWEVER these orgs will slowly grow, purchase better fighters and gain credibility and legitimacy.

UFC and Pride established the game, brought in the mainstream and created the foundation and history for MMA.

When in ten years Cage, Elite and co start to rock the 'foundation and history' of MMA and YOUR sport begins to die then you have made your bed and you will be forced to sleep in it. Just like boxing fans are now having to suffer for embracing garbage like the WBO, IBF, Ring blah blah blahDont worry the real fans know the diffrence

[achillesthegreat]

Dont worry the real fans know the diffrence
They don't in boxing and I suspect MMA will become the same.

There aren't that many REAL HARDCORE fans in any sport.

[scurlaruntings]

They don't in boxing and I suspect MMA will become the same.

There aren't that many REAL HARDCORE fans in any sport.No your right.. thats why all them UFC dick lickers are bashing the PRIDE guys because CC and Rua lost. Fickle indeed.

[geppy]

No your right.. thats why all them UFC dick lickers are bashing the PRIDE guys because CC and Rua lost. Fickle indeed.


People are way too quick to jump on fighters when they lose one fight . But look at Randy Couture, he dont have a very impressive W-L record. Obviously , he is a great fighter though. Upsets happen all the time in MMA. There is little margain for error, one mistake and a fight can be over. If a great fighter like GSP can lose to a guy like Serra, anything can happen! Although , for Cro Cops case he is probably just washed up. Shogun can come back with a vengence. Forrest was written off because he got careless and lost a fluke fight to Jardine. Who Forrest should of smashed.

[scurlaruntings]

People are way too quick to jump on fighters when they lose one fight . But look at Randy Couture, he dont have a very impressive W-L record. Obviously , he is a great fighter though. Upsets happen all the time in MMA. There is little margain for error, one mistake and a fight can be over. If a great fighter like GSP can lose to a guy like Serra, anything can happen! Although , for Cro Cops case he is probably just washed up. Shogun can come back with a vengence. Forrest was written off because he got careless and lost a fluke fight to Jardine. Who Forrest should of smashed.Exactly.Most seem to forget that CC has had a long and famous career in the K1 as a boxer and as an MMA`er.His at the end of his career achieving the pinnacle at the OWGP. Shogun is a mere pup at 25 and has many years ahead of him but he comes into the fight completely ill disciplined and undertrained and Griffin does a job on him now all of a sudden his ledger means squat and ALL PRIDE fighters are shit.:patsch

[bachatu]

Elite XC needs some work. It reminds me of the old UFC when it started. it seems some guys in there are guys right out of a bar or someone they picked up in a park and offered them 50$ to fight. Some of them really seem low caliber. However, I really do like how they have woman MMA in there. Especially with Gina Carano in there. But they really need to get higher caliber fighters cause UFC is way ahead.

[geppy]

EliteXC signed Kimbo Slice .

"Though ProElite representatives would not comment, sources close to the situation indicate that Tank has also signed with the promotion and that the two ( Tank Abbot and Kimbo) will fight at ProElite's Nov. 10 EliteXC event in Corpus Christi, Texas."

[kel]

Yeah iwatched the Baroni v Shamrock fight the other day,gee if all MMA fights were like that i might follow it abit more. BTW how long ago was that fight??

[Wilhelm]

You guys need to see the point I'm making.

I'm sure their fights are good, I enjoy em just like you do.

HOWEVER these orgs will slowly grow, purchase better fighters and gain credibility and legitimacy.

UFC and Pride established the game, brought in the mainstream and created the foundation and history for MMA.

When in ten years Cage, Elite and co start to rock the 'foundation and history' of MMA and YOUR sport begins to die then you have made your bed and you will be forced to sleep in it. Just like boxing fans are now having to suffer for embracing garbage like the WBO, IBF, Ring blah blah blah

You're worried about the belts turning into the ABCs in boxing, is that it? I can see your point.

[geppy]

You're worried about the belts turning into the ABCs in boxing, is that it? I can see your point.

There is a major difference , boxing is a world wide sport, and could operate with only one belt. Bob Arum fighters can fight Don King fighters , or Universum, or Gary Shaw , ETC, ETC. MMA is not like that at all.

MMA is all private companys that fight against only other signed fighters within one company. Only watching the UFC just means missing out many good fights.