View Full Version : if mundine was in the super six tournament?
buster007
10-18-2009, 09:17 PM
firstly do u think he would have signed if he was still at super middleweight? personally i don't believe he would have been brave enough to compete in it.
how do u think he would have gone?
daz52
10-18-2009, 09:22 PM
Anthony doesnt take one fight challenges anymore. What would make him sign up for 3 possibly more?
Anyway he might get a win or two over one of the Americans because they are either done (Taylor) or too inexperienced (Ward and Dirrell) but I think all three of the Europeans beat him. We already know Kessler does anyway.
goodnight
10-18-2009, 09:26 PM
never gonna win (or travel) so was never gonna join or be considered.
JOSEY WALES
10-18-2009, 10:07 PM
He would probably have been KTFO by any of the lads fighting last night , if Kim drops him at C/Weight his boots would be smoked @168lbs .
perfect jet
10-18-2009, 10:27 PM
Mundine wouldn't have beat any of them. Taylor, Froch, the lot....
IrnBruMan
10-18-2009, 11:42 PM
The cunt didn't have the sack to face Kessler when he was his mandatory, no way would he have entered a tourney where he eventually would have had to to face the mighty Viking Warrior, whether it be in the first round or if he managed to get through to the group stage :lol:
flamengo
10-18-2009, 11:42 PM
.......it would be called 'The super 5 and Mundine Tournament'
He would probably have been KTFO by any of the lads fighting last night , if Kim drops him at C/Weight his boots would be smoked @168lbs .What would Kessler do to him? oh thats right just win on pts
roscoe
10-18-2009, 11:56 PM
Maybe mandy got wiff of the super 6 168lb tournament being made hence his decision to drop to 160lbs. Sorry Ash I can't help myself.
JOSEY WALES
10-19-2009, 12:04 AM
What would Kessler do to him? oh thats right just win on pts
Kessler by Massive KO . That version of Mundine ain't alive anymore , Whilst kessler has improved Ten Fold ..
That is all .
Kessler by Massive KO . That version of Mundine ain't alive anymore , Whilst kessler has improved Ten Fold ..
That is all .Kessler has not improved Ten Fold, what is this myth based on. I bet it is based on his competition improving Ten Fold.
LeonMcS
10-19-2009, 01:07 AM
Just like Chocs.
Cough.
fast hands
10-19-2009, 01:24 AM
He'd be waking up in a cold sweat.
The Tuaman
10-19-2009, 02:02 AM
Dont be silly, he earns far to much fighting Argie cabbies in Australia than risking being exposed in the Super 6. IMHO Kessler, Abraham, Dirrell, Froch and Ward beat him the only guy i think he has a chance with right now is Taylor only because Taylor looks now to be on the decline!
thejokerswild
10-19-2009, 02:20 AM
No way, these guys skill and dedication far outrank choc. Mundine can just stay in Australia and be a nobody.
Rodin
10-19-2009, 03:49 AM
I'd be the Pope :D
20a87
10-19-2009, 05:37 AM
if he was still holding his belt i can see his confidence being high and either getting decisions over the likes of froch and taylor or coming up slightly short against kessler. The worst match up would be abraham i think because of his power which tends to put mundine on edge
JOSEY WALES
10-19-2009, 06:14 AM
if he was still holding his belt i can see his confidence being high and either getting decisions over the likes of froch and taylor or coming up slightly short against kessler. The worst match up would be abraham i think because of his power which tends to put mundine on edge
More Steaming horse shit .
Just look at what you just wrote .
"If he was still holding his belt " You mean the Regular belt he bought off the WBA whilst Calzaghe was their Real Champion ?
Froch is a full street ahead of Mundine here in 09 , Did you see his preformance during the Jean Pascal fight ? FOTY in some peoples eyes , When did Mundine EVER fight to that level ?
Taylor ? Taylor is a shadow of his former self but imo still is a full two levels above anything Mundine claims to be .
Kessler ? Mundine will NEVER fight the Dane again , He had his chance to earlier in the year but point blank refused when when the WBA ordered him to back up his claim to being a World Champ and he RAN down to take Geale's BIO ( Best in Oz ) title off him .
Abraham ..Well i agree not only would AA's power put Mundine on edge it would put him to sleep faster than when he got KTFO by Ottke .
20a87
10-19-2009, 08:34 AM
More Steaming horse shit .
Just look at what you just wrote .
"If he was still holding his belt " You mean the Regular belt he bought off the WBA whilst Calzaghe was their Real Champion ?
Froch is a full street ahead of Mundine here in 09 , Did you see his preformance during the Jean Pascal fight ? FOTY in some peoples eyes , When did Mundine EVER fight to that level ?
Taylor ? Taylor is a shadow of his former self but imo still is a full two levels above anything Mundine claims to be .
Kessler ? Mundine will NEVER fight the Dane again , He had his chance to earlier in the year but point blank refused when when the WBA ordered him to back up his claim to being a World Champ and he RAN down to take Geale's BIO ( Best in Oz ) title off him .
Abraham ..Well i agree not only would AA's power put Mundine on edge it would put him to sleep faster than when he got KTFO by Ottke .
I pretty much addressed all of your (weak) points in the other thread where you hate on mundine, mundine vs geale was a much better and skilled fight than froch's hit and rely on his chin holding up win over pascal although it was a good fight. To be fair if mundine can make middleweight why not give himself the size and weight advantages?
JOSEY WALES
10-19-2009, 09:01 AM
I pretty much addressed all of your (weak) points in the other thread where you hate on mundine, mundine vs geale was a much better and skilled fight than froch's hit and rely on his chin holding up win over pascal although it was a good fight. To be fair if mundine can make middleweight why not give himself the size and weight advantages?
Mundine v Geale was a much better fight than Pascal v Froch ? :patsch
Get some sleep Ash .
ipswich express
10-19-2009, 09:05 AM
Mundine v Geale was a much better fight than Pascal v Froch ? :patsch
Get some sleep Ash .
:lol:
JOSEY WALES
10-19-2009, 09:08 AM
:lol:
Ipswich who you got in the next rounds ? your 2-0 now glad the drought is over :lol: sometimes you can know too much .
I pretty much addressed all of your (weak) points in the other thread where you hate on mundine, mundine vs geale was a much better and skilled fight than froch's hit and rely on his chin holding up win over pascal although it was a good fight. To be fair if mundine can make middleweight why not give himself the size and weight advantages?The Froch/Pascal fight was way more entertaining and deserved the FOTY nomination but I agree the skill shown between Mundine and Geale was far superior.
More Steaming horse shit .
Just look at what you just wrote .
"If he was still holding his belt " You mean the Regular belt he bought off the WBA whilst Calzaghe was their Real Champion ?
Froch is a full street ahead of Mundine here in 09 , Did you see his preformance during the Jean Pascal fight ? FOTY in some peoples eyes , When did Mundine EVER fight to that level ?
Taylor ? Taylor is a shadow of his former self but imo still is a full two levels above anything Mundine claims to be .
Kessler ? Mundine will NEVER fight the Dane again , He had his chance to earlier in the year but point blank refused when when the WBA ordered him to back up his claim to being a World Champ and he RAN down to take Geale's BIO ( Best in Oz ) title off him .
Abraham ..Well i agree not only would AA's power put Mundine on edge it would put him to sleep faster than when he got KTFO by Ottke .Interesting
Froch ain't shit.
I had some hope for Dirrell because he has the talent to make it very far. But he fought very scared for much of the fight. His inexperience at that level probably cost him a lot. And he can be quite sloppy at times. Still I had him beating Froch as did many others.
Froch is a macho type fighter but let's not mistake him for a great fighter. His last few wins are very good but let's remember Taylor was ahead before being stopped and many people had an inexperienced Dirrell beating him even with his "running" tactic.
ashley
10-19-2009, 08:48 PM
Mundine v Geale was a much better fight than Pascal v Froch ? :patsch
Get some sleep Ash .
Take it easy bro.....I'm in Nu Zuland....:D
ashley
10-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Oh and in reply to the thread question he would have a good chance against...at least 50/50
Dirrell
Froch
Taylor
Ward
Not so good against
Kessler
AA
But he would fit in just fine :good
roscoe
10-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Ash you underestimate Ward my friend. He would totally dominate mandy. I'm not sure the Taylor fight is a pick em either.
gazj23
10-20-2009, 03:11 AM
Hmmm interesting notion.
Would depend on a lot of things (location etc)
But I think Choc beats Dirrell and Taylor definitely. Ward and Froch I think he would also fancy his chances.
Abraham and Kessler look to be the big guns of the field and on any given night I can see him pulling off an upset but he would be pushing the barrel up the proverbial hill.
He would certainly have to come out of his shell, and let those fists fly. Which would mean arguably that he would open himself up for the counter. But Chocs defence is much underated I believe, he slips more punches and rolls with more punches than he used too, and opponents have a difficult time landing big shots and combinations on him.
perfect jet
10-20-2009, 04:10 AM
I'm going with Ward to win this thing. He's a roughy but I think he is up to it.
I really like him to upset Kessler first up.
perfect jet
10-20-2009, 04:17 AM
Hmmm interesting notion.
Would depend on a lot of things (location etc)
But I think Choc beats Dirrell and Taylor definitely. Ward and Froch I think he would also fancy his chances.
Abraham and Kessler look to be the big guns of the field and on any given night I can see him pulling off an upset but he would be pushing the barrel up the proverbial hill.
He would certainly have to come out of his shell, and let those fists fly. Which would mean arguably that he would open himself up for the counter. But Chocs defence is much underated I believe, he slips more punches and rolls with more punches than he used too, and opponents have a difficult time landing big shots and combinations on him.
What makes you say he would fancy his chances against those guys? His win over Crazy Kim, Shannon Taylor, Pintos and Geale? ever asked why he hasn't even sniffed a fight with two of the top six fighters at 168?
Just curious.
TheDuke
10-20-2009, 04:19 AM
Hmmm interesting notion.
Would depend on a lot of things (location etc)
But I think Choc beats Dirrell and Taylor definitely. Ward and Froch I think he would also fancy his chances.
Abraham and Kessler look to be the big guns of the field and on any given night I can see him pulling off an upset but he would be pushing the barrel up the proverbial hill.
He would certainly have to come out of his shell, and let those fists fly. Which would mean arguably that he would open himself up for the counter. But Chocs defence is much underated I believe, he slips more punches and rolls with more punches than he used too, and opponents have a difficult time landing big shots and combinations on him.
Hey Gaz. In all seriousness what do you base your opinions on?
Mundine has never beaten a fighter of the calibre of any of these guys, and has fought rubbish opponents (apart from Geale) for the last 3 years.
It's mindblowing that Mundine fans claim what they claim.
scunny slugger
10-20-2009, 05:58 AM
he wouldnt beat any of them bumdines a joke
IrnBruMan
10-20-2009, 05:59 AM
if he was still holding his belt i can see his confidence being high and either getting decisions over the likes of froch and taylor or coming up slightly short against kessler. The worst match up would be abraham i think because of his power which tends to put mundine on edge
:lol::lol::lol:
He voluntarily gave up that belt to avoid rematching Kessler, so what confidence are you referring to?
IrnBruMan
10-20-2009, 06:03 AM
He would certainly have to come out of his shell, and let those fists fly.
You must be new to Mundine-nuthugging...it's funny, I can recall a poster who no longer posts here saying the exact same thing way back in 2004/2005 - words to the effect that Mundine just has to let his hands go - Ottke did a lot more damage to Mundine's psyche than he has ever let on :yep
As far as letting his fists fly more - it hasn't happened yet, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you :lol:
Francis75
10-20-2009, 07:09 AM
Lets get real here. Both Mundine and Geale in 2009 would lose to all 6 fighters in the 168 tournament imo, even Jermain Taylor and i would be very shocked if they also didn't lose 2 or 3 by KO.
LOL at the deluded in this thread who reckon Mundine in 2009 could beat the likes of Ward and Dirrell. FUCKEN LOL.
gazj23
10-20-2009, 07:40 AM
Lets just say, this opinions are opinions and everybody is entitled to them.
I respect most peoples opinions, just doesn't mean we all agree sometimes. Otherwise there would be no need for sites such as these.
Also i wouldn't say I am a massive Mundine fan, more someone that has watched boxing for close to 20 years and can appreciate that he is a very talented if not floored boxer. i like everyone else wish he would step up, often I wish he would shut up and ultimately i wish he would man up (pardon the pun). But the days of boxing being a legitimate and mainstream sport have long gone. Often the politics out of the ring dictates who fights who, and the fact that there are so many regulating bodies makes it difficult to get fights done. Its no excuse I know, but often wondered why Sven never fought Joe and you basically have my answer.
I am sorry if I upset whomever is the Froch fan, I just remember alot of people and experts at the time saying that Green, Echols and Soliman all were going to expose the Man for a fraud and knock him out. Now hindsight is a wonderful thing and if I know now what happened then I would be a millionaire. But it just seems the same kind of bravaso is coming from the Froch camp after beating Direll and Pascal (correct me if I am wrong but I thought Dirrell only had 10 fights). Whilst I admit there is alot of potential in Froch to compare Dirrell to Mundines opponents is Apples and oranges. Ontop of that saying he would knock Mundine out is laughable if the viking warrior couldn't do it what makes you think Froch can. From memory he has only been down 3 times in 36 or so fights.
I am not claiming he is a worl beater, far from it, hyse that if he were in the super 6 I could see him being about middle of the road. Dont think thats too astonishing is it.
The tournament could be 20 players big and most ppl would say he couldnt beat any of them.
Just fuckup idiots :lol:
TheDuke
10-20-2009, 01:27 PM
Taylor would look ten times the boxer that Mundine looks if he had the same comp over the last three years.
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