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cubex
10-21-2009, 05:31 PM
Who wins between the 2 ''could have beens''?
Zed
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The President
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TBooze
10-21-2009, 06:01 PM
If you take the insanity out of Mr President, so he can have a career, you have yourself a very ordinary fighter, even for this era!
Mavrovic was nothing special, but would have too much for a sane Ike:
Mavrovic WU10 (7-3)
lefthook31
10-21-2009, 06:31 PM
If you take the insanity out of Mr President, so he can have a career, you have yourself a very ordinary fighter, even for this era!
Mavrovic was nothing special, but would have too much for a sane Ike:
Mavrovic WU10 (7-3)
No way. Ike was moving up the chain nicely. Mavrovic never beat anyone close to a prime Byrd or Tua. Ike always reminded me of a bigger version of Evander Holyfield. Big guy fast hands, good combo puncher, Ike would chase Mavrovic all night and win a UD.
TBooze
10-21-2009, 06:34 PM
No way. Ike was moving up the chain nicely. Mavrovic never beat anyone close to a prime Byrd or Tua. Ike always reminded me of a bigger version of Evander Holyfield. Big guy fast hands, good combo puncher, Ike would chase Mavrovic all night and win a UD.
Ike was mad; if he had fought with sanity, he would of not even come close to world class.
No sane man walks though prime Tua's left hook for 12 rounds to begin with...
I'd go with Ike. Mavrovic did ok against Lennox, but many tall boxers with good jabs did. Mavrovic doesn't have even one victory over a notable fighter on his resume.
he grant
10-21-2009, 06:43 PM
Ike would kill him ... simply a matter if he could KO that steek chinned nut or not ... Lewis hit him with monster shots and did not stop him but did retire him ...
cubex
10-21-2009, 06:49 PM
I agree with the people who say Ibeabuchi would win.
lefthook31
10-21-2009, 06:50 PM
Ike was mad; if he had fought with sanity, he would of not even come close to world class.
No sane man walks though prime Tua's left hook for 12 rounds to begin with...
That pretty much goes for all fighters. Look at what some of the top level fighters put themselves through. Thats what makes them special! Ike only had 22 or so fights and he was improving every fight. He was getting very close to being ready to challenge Lewis for the title before the rails came off. He was one of the special ones for sure, and probably the last heavyweight Ive felt that way about since Lewis.
cotto20
10-21-2009, 06:56 PM
If you take the insanity out of Mr President, so he can have a career, you have yourself a very ordinary fighter, even for this era!
Mavrovic was nothing special, but would have too much for a sane Ike:
Mavrovic WU10 (7-3)
Ike would of beat him, mavrovic was no tua or bryd
cotto20
10-21-2009, 06:57 PM
That pretty much goes for all fighters. Look at what some of the top level fighters put themselves through. Thats what makes them special! Ike only had 22 or so fights and he was improving every fight. He was getting very close to being ready to challenge Lewis for the title before the rails came off. He was one of the special ones for sure, and probably the last heavyweight Ive felt that way about since Lewis.
Good post i agree, ike had it all cast iron chin, big punch, stamina and didnt have a bad boxing brian either was very good the way he cut the ring off against bryd
TBooze
10-21-2009, 09:16 PM
That pretty much goes for all fighters. Look at what some of the top level fighters put themselves through. Thats what makes them special! Ike only had 22 or so fights and he was improving every fight. He was getting very close to being ready to challenge Lewis for the title before the rails came off. He was one of the special ones for sure, and probably the last heavyweight Ive felt that way about since Lewis.
But Ike unlikely the vast majority of fighters could not live in our society, so he can not be rated, as he could not control himself, unlike many, many other fighters.
Mavrovic would beat the Ike that could live a normal live, easily.
What makes fighters special is the ability to control themselves outside and inside the ring, Mr President, just could not do that.
Xplosive
10-21-2009, 09:19 PM
Ike was MUCH better.
Bummy Davis
10-21-2009, 09:26 PM
watching Marovic against Lewis I have to say he stunned Lewis for a spell and even though he lost wide he took Lewis's best shots. I dont see Ike being able to stop Zeljko but I do not see Marovic hurting IKE...I see a close but UD in favor of IKE
mugen82
10-21-2009, 09:33 PM
Ike by brutal KO, the shot he hit bird, it'd take zed's mohawk clean off!
The Kurgan
10-21-2009, 09:51 PM
Zed. He proved more in that night against Lewis than Ike did in his entire career (or the two fights in his career worth even vaguely caring about, ie. a controversial win over Tua and an impressive win over Byrd) as well as showing a huge amount of potential in his fights leading up to that. More importantly, Zeljko had all the tools necessary to beat Ike: great skills, an iron chin and quick straight clean punches that would land first.
Mavrovic by UD.
time lost
10-21-2009, 11:51 PM
Zed. He proved more in that night against Lewis than Ike did in his entire career (or the two fights in his career worth even vaguely caring about, ie. a controversial win over Tua and an impressive win over Byrd) as well as showing a huge amount of potential in his fights leading up to that. More importantly, Zeljko had all the tools necessary to beat Ike: great skills, an iron chin and quick straight clean punches that would land first.
Mavrovic by UD. that's right!:good
ChrisPontius
10-22-2009, 04:28 AM
The Nigerian is the more proven fighter, although we never saw him against a Lennox Lewis, who for instance Tua lost every round to despite that impressive fight with Ibeabuchi (which i scored for Tua), Ruiz, etc.
I'm not as impressed with Mavrovic' performance against Lewis as most are. Yes, he showed a granite chin, was awkard and made Lewis look stupid at times. But he still lost damn near every round; even when he stunned Lennox, the Brit came right back to hit him even worse with a 4-punch combo that landed flush.
I'd go with Ibeabuchi because he is a bit more proven... however, it'd be interesting to see him fight someone who is not short and who doesn't stand in front of him. Tentatively picking Ike UD. Ibeabuchi was a beast, though his defence was somewhat lacking.
jaffay
10-22-2009, 06:17 AM
Mad Ike!!!
zadfrak
10-22-2009, 07:16 AM
Ike was mechanical in there & Mavrovic has the edge in ringsmarts. Decision bout & I can see the lankier Mavrovic outpointing the guy & Ibeabuchi either fighting stupid or putting in a flat effort. Nice upset kind of bout and this guy is a live underdog against a lot of his more popular contemporaries back then.
lefthook31
10-22-2009, 11:55 AM
Zed. He proved more in that night against Lewis than Ike did in his entire career (or the two fights in his career worth even vaguely caring about, ie. a controversial win over Tua and an impressive win over Byrd) as well as showing a huge amount of potential in his fights leading up to that. More importantly, Zeljko had all the tools necessary to beat Ike: great skills, an iron chin and quick straight clean punches that would land first.
Mavrovic by UD.
What did he prove? He proved he could run for 12 rounds? Great skills? I dont think so. Ike on the otherhand proved he could brawl, and he could also settle down and figure out a crafty southpaw, had some willingness to engage to actually win a fight as well, something Mavrovic had no interest in doing in his one and only "real fight" he was in, and what is the mark of a real champion. Mavrovics record is a laundry list of nobodies, worse than Brian Nielson's. Its too hard to come to your conclusion based on his level of opposition.
cubex
10-22-2009, 11:58 AM
Well watching him on tape I think Mavrovic did have skills.He had good accuracy,speed,picked his shots well and decent evading action/body movement.
But as said it was all against limited competition.
lefthook31
10-22-2009, 12:10 PM
Well watching him on tape I think Mavrovic did have skills.He had good accuracy,speed,picked his shots well and decent evading action/body movement.
But as said it was all against limited competition.
Skills yes, great skills nah. Too hard to pick him over a guy who showed more dimension to his game in my opinion.
cubex
10-22-2009, 12:12 PM
Skills yes, great skills nah. Too hard to pick him over a guy who showed more dimension to his game in my opinion.
I agree.
I
d say Ibeabuchi wins a UD.
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