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sugarngold
10-22-2009, 09:52 PM
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Lyoto Machida Vs. Mauricio Rua
Cain Velasquez Vs. Ben Rothwell
Gleison Tibau Vs. Josh Neer
Joe Stevenson Vs. Spencer Fisher
Anthony Johnson Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Ryan Bader Vs. Eric Schafer
Antoni Hardonk Vs. Pat Barry
Yushin Okami Vs. Chael Sonnen
Jorge Rivera Vs. Rob Kimmons
Kyle Kingsbury Vs. Razak Al-Hassan
Stefan Struve Vs. Chase Gormley
Research their records and watch their fights before you make your prediction and if you still don't know who to pick JUST GUESS!
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sugarngold
10-22-2009, 09:55 PM
I'm definitely taking Machida via TKO. Will have to figure out the rest later.
Vitor Belfort
10-22-2009, 10:09 PM
If the shogun from pride shows up then i give him a great chance of winning but i don't know if shogun has fully recovered from his injuries. He had only 2 fights in the past 2 years and it was against 2 past prime fighters in coleman and liddell. If he is 100% then i give him at least a 50/50 chance of winning this fight.
But right now i don't know if rua is 100% so my pick for now is machida by either decision-ko or sub win.
radab
10-22-2009, 10:42 PM
Dont care about the other fights, only the Machida one
War Machida!!!!!!
Sloth
10-22-2009, 10:45 PM
If the shogun from pride shows up then i give him a great chance of winning but i don't know if shogun has fully recovered from his injuries. He had only 2 fights in the past 2 years and it was against 2 past prime fighters in coleman and liddell. If he is 100% then i give him at least a 50/50 chance of winning this fight.
But right now i don't know if rua is 100% so my pick for now is machida by either decision-ko or sub win.
Totally agree. The shogun from pride was a violent beast. If that shogun shows, I pick shogun. If they lay back, Machida will pick him apart.
This should be a great fight. I can't wait.:happy
chimba
10-23-2009, 12:34 AM
terrible card but MAchida by KO
Beebs
10-23-2009, 01:06 AM
terrible card but MAchida by KO
What's so terrible about it?
Hardonk vs Barry - should be an insane kickboxing matchup,
Neer vs Tibau - Neer almost never has a boring fight and Tibau can do some pretty amazing things.
Johnson vs Yoshida - real test for Johnson, both guys are consistantly exciting and Yoshida has some of the best Judo and nastiest throws around.
Velasquez vs Rothwell - could be Cains last fight before a title shot if he wins, Rothwell is no walkover. The fight itself could be anything from non-stop action to boring though.
radab
10-23-2009, 01:51 AM
terrible card
Of course. It's being held in the UK :-(
ufoalf
10-23-2009, 02:59 AM
Shogun via head decapitation.
Kestrel
10-23-2009, 04:34 AM
The Dragon will rule for a long time, he will eat the Shogun and squash the Spider.
One Punch KO
10-23-2009, 06:05 AM
Here are my picks lads...
Lyoto Machida KO/TKO 2
Cain Velasquez UD
Gleison Tibau UD
Joe Stevenson UD
Yoshiyuki Yoshida SUB 2 (Rear Naked Choke)
Ryan Bader KO/TKO 1
Antoni Hardonk KO/TKO 1
Yushin Okami UD
Jorge Rivera KO/TKO 2
Razak Al-Hassan SUB 1 (Armbar)
Stefan Struve SUB 2 (Triangle Choke)
OuterDrake
10-23-2009, 07:20 AM
Machida UD
Velasquez tko1
Tibau sub1 choke
Fisher tko3
Johnson tko1
Bader tko1
Barry tko 2nd
Okami ud
Kimmons sub1 choke
Kingsbury tko2 (punch)
Gormley ud
achillesthegreat
10-23-2009, 08:05 AM
Elegant Karate or Aggressive Muay Thai. It's a great striking match. Ultimately I think the result rests in how each fighter employs their chosen style.
I don't like Rua's stance and guard. As devastating as he is, I think his balance, footwork and guard is the sort Machida could feast on. However his aggression might override his technical flaws and allow him to find a home for his strikes.
Machida is a sharp shooter and I think his style will prevail but there is a good chance Rua's aggressive and dynamic striking can cause problems. With that high head and leaning back style, Machida works on split second calculations. Wrong calculations can lead to devastating results when faced with the threat of someone like Shogun.
Rattler
10-23-2009, 10:34 AM
Machida - ud
Velasquez - tko 2
Tibau - ud
Stevenson - ud
Johnson - tko 1
Bader - ud
Hardonk - tko 2
Sonnen - sub 1 (arm triangle)
Rivera - ud
Al-Hassan - tko 2
Struve - tko 2
solidchin
10-23-2009, 08:07 PM
shogun to win by tko 3rd rnd
rothwell to win by tko 2nd rnd
neer to win by ud
stevenson to win by rnc 2nd rnd
johnson to win by tko 2nd rnd
bader to win by ud
hardonk to win by tko 3rd rnd
okami to win by ud
kimmons to win by triangle choke 1st rnd
kingsbury to win by sd
struve to win by tko 3rd rnd
Machida 4th tko
Velasquez-UD
Tibau-UD
Fisher-UD
Johnson 1st-tko
Bader-2nd-tko
Okami-UD
Hardonk-2nd-tko
Kimmons-sub-2
Kingsbury-UD
Struve-1st sub triangle
:silly
2FastByFar
10-24-2009, 01:08 AM
Machida - TKO 2
Velasquez - UD
Tibau - UD
Stevenson - UD
Johnson - TKO 1
Bader - TKO 1
Hardonk - Sub (Rear Naked Choke) 1
Okami - UD
Kimmons - Sub (Guillotine Choke) 1
Kingsbury - UD
Gormley UD
Grievesy
10-24-2009, 05:54 AM
Machida TKO 3
Velasquez TKO 3
Tibau UD
Steveson UD
Johnson KO 1
Bader TKO 2
Okami UD
Hardonk Sub 2 Armbar
Kimmons Sub 1 RNC
Kingsbury UD
Struve Sub 1 Triangle
Machida TKO 3
Velasquez UD
Neer G.Choke 2
Stevenson SD
Johnson TKO 2
Bader TKO 1
Hardonk TKO 3
Okami Sub strikes 2
Rivera TKO 3
Al Hassan UD
Struve RNC 2
LB3000
10-24-2009, 10:49 AM
Lyoto Machida KO/TKO 4
Cain Velasquez UD
Gleison Tibau SD
Joe Stevenson UD
Yoshiyuki Yoshida Sub (Guillotine) 1
Ryan Bader KO/TKO 3
Antoni Hardonk Sub (Guillotine) 2
Yushin Okami UD
Jorge Rivera KO/TKO 2
Razak Al-Hassan UD
Stefan Struve Sub (triangle) 1
Bill Butcher
10-24-2009, 03:13 PM
Shogun will win
One Punch KO
10-24-2009, 05:42 PM
The 'Struve by triangle choke' bandwagon is now full.
Beebs
10-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Lyoto Machida TKO Round 4
Cain Velasquez TKO Round 2
Gleison Tibau UD
Joe Stevenson UD
Anthony Johnson KO1
Ryan Bader UD
Antoni Hardonk KO2
Yushin Okami Guillotine Round 1
Rob Kimmons RNC Round 1
Kyle Kingsbury Armbar Round 2
Stefan Struve Triangle Round 1
One Punch KO
10-24-2009, 06:01 PM
:lol:
I guess not!
haha, I guess he made some room....
rekcutnevets
10-24-2009, 06:41 PM
Rua tko 3
Cain tko 2
Tibau ud
Stevenson ud
Johnson tko 2
Bader tko 1
Gormley tko 2
Hardonk sub 3
kimmons sub 1
Kingsbury ud
OuterDrake
10-24-2009, 09:14 PM
Pat berry is a tough mofo
achillesthegreat
10-25-2009, 10:36 AM
Elegant Karate or Aggressive Muay Thai. It's a great striking match. Ultimately I think the result rests in how each fighter employs their chosen style.
I don't like Rua's stance and guard. As devastating as he is, I think his balance, footwork and guard is the sort Machida could feast on. However his aggression might override his technical flaws and allow him to find a home for his strikes.
Machida is a sharp shooter and I think his style will prevail but there is a good chance Rua's aggressive and dynamic striking can cause problems. With that high head and leaning back style, Machida works on split second calculations. Wrong calculations can lead to devastating results when faced with the threat of someone like Shogun.
Aggressive Muay Thai wins.
rekcutnevets
10-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Scores:
Rattler 64
Beebs 62
Grievesy 56
AJAX 49
OuterDrake 49
One Punch KO 43
2FastByFar 43
rekcutnevets 42
LB3000 40
Solidchin 38
sugarngold 4
sugarngold
11-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Thanks for tallying the scores, bro! I was too busy to even get back and finish my predictions.
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