UFC 104 Results

[jordan1]

Stefan Struve VS Chase Gormley

Struve goes to his back and elicits the tap out 4:04 of the first fram

[rekcutnevets]

Jorge Rivera def. Rob Kimmons via TKO
Kyle Kingsbury def. Razak Al-Hassan via split decision

[jordan1]

Kyle Kingsbury vs Razak Al-Hassan

Official scores are 29-28, 29-28 and 28-29. Kingsbury takes the split decision.

[jordan1]

Jorge Rivera vs Rob Kimmons

Herzog deems he has had enough and steps in at 1:53 in round 3 to give Rivera the win by TKO.

[rekcutnevets]

Chael Sonnen def. Yushin Okami via unanimous decision

[jordan1]

Sonnen takes a unanimous decision on the official cards with scores of 30-27 across the board.

[jordan1]

WOW Patric Barry wins in secound round

[jordan1]

Ryan bader vs Eric Shafers

Ryan Bader takes the unanimous decision

[radab]

Anthony Johnson looked fantastic as he crushed Yoshida in 41 seconds

[Grievesy]

Great performance but he needs to move up in weight. He looked like he was a weightclass or two above there.

[radab]

"I saw a big face in front of me so i decided to hit it!"

Johnston quote



Johnson failed to make weight, came in 6 pouinds over. Looked much bigger than Yoshi, and destroyed him with strikes, KOing him in 41 seconds

[G.A.V.]

Holy fuck, that shit was ridiculous. He snapped him like a twig.

[Tko4]

Johnson really should be fighting at 185. He missed weight by a lot yesterday, and I'm guessing he was close to 200 pounds tonight. Yoshida took the fight with Johnson at 176 because really, what other choice did he have? I think it was pretty unfair.

Johnson is a talented kid, but if you can't make weight, move up already.

[radab]

Johnson really should be fighting at 185. He missed weight by a lot yesterday, and I'm guessing he was close to 200 pounds tonight. Yoshida took the fight with Johnson at 176 because really, what other choice did he have? I think it was pretty unfair.

Johnson is a talented kid, but if you can't make weight, move up already.



To be fair Johnston blamed it on a knee injury preventing him from cardio training properly. That sounds legit. If he fails to make weight in his next fight, then sure he should move up. But lets wait and see

[Tuffnutz]

6lbs is ridiculous.

When was the last time any fighter in any sport came in any where near 6lbs over the limit? :lol:

[Tko4]

To be fair Johnston blamed it on a knee injury preventing him from cardio training properly. That sounds legit. If he fails to make weight in his next fight, then sure he should move up. But lets wait and see

He looked in great shape, though. I think he's getting to the point where he's too tall and muscular to make 170 anymore. But like you said, let's see what happens next time.

[Tuffnutz]

Daddy vs Fisher might be FOTN.

[Tuffnutz]

Damn, Fisher fought in Tough Man comps as a heavyweight.

[rekcutnevets]

Somebody show Stevenson's finish to Roy Nelson.

[G.A.V.]

Felt so sorry for Fisher. He just had nothing to offer, and when Joe had him in the hold and was just elbowing I was just like "holy fuck, what can you do?".

Bad night for Asians tonight.

[zarman]

is this ppv?

[Big T]

Great performance but he needs to move up in weight. He looked like he was a weightclass or two above there.

Wouldn't call it great...he didn't try to make the wieght..and had a big advantage...So this is a OK win...

[walk with me]

nvmd

[radab]

nvmd



surprised seeing you in here WWM

Anthony Johnson reminds me of Paul Williams

[safe_pa]

This has been a good card so far. Heavyweight time :bbb

[walk with me]

surprised seeing you in here WWM

Anthony Johnson reminds me of Paul Williams

i dont really know too many mma fighters by name but i like the sport...

i like boxing's technique
and for mma i just like someone getting destroyed...


who is anthony johnson tho? was he the guy who ko'd that little asian dude earlier? i saw that before my link froze on me....

[IntentionalButt]

Has Rothwell ever even been in a fight? :lol:

[radab]

Holy shit Valasquez just pounded the shit out of Big Ben Rothwell. Poor guy cant come back now, he either gets a sustained pummeling, or hes getting stopped


Round two...

[G.A.V.]

Valesquez is just downright raping Big Ben. Terrifying heavyweight, he's just ridiculously fast and strong.

[Big T]

Bad stoppage..and Cain should be happy he wasn't in with Brock or Shane...

[Bodysnatcher]

Rogan is shouting "oh, so close to being stopped, so close..."

Then the ref stops it and he complains.

UFC refs have a shit job. They can't win.

[Big T]

And I will stand by that because, Roth kept getting back up, vs a guy that was to be a killer wrestler....

[G.A.V.]

People are going to bitch about that stoppage and I hate Mazzagatti as much as the next guy but the fact is, Rothwell looked out of it when taking those shots, and he only got up when the stoppage was called. It's hardly like the referee could go "oops, nevermind" when he gets up.

Massive heart and massive chin by that guy, absolutely shocking takedown defense and ground game, nothing he could do about that.

[radab]

i dont really know too many mma fighters by name but i like the sport...

i like boxing's technique
and for mma i just like someone getting destroyed...


who is anthony johnson tho? was he the guy who ko'd that little asian dude earlier? i saw that before my link froze on me....



Yeah that was Johnston




That was a very good stoppage BTW. Rogan can shut the hell up, there was only ever going to be one winner there. Rotherwell was a punchbag.

[MexicanJew]

And here Rothwell was being hyped so goddamn much by his camp.

Velasquez looked the best he ever has, the kid has improved tremendously


It was a valid stoppage. Rothwell was a cornfed punchingi bag, the fight was going nowhere but him getting a grade 2 concussion

[Tko4]

Chuck Liddell watching with his Dancing partner. He is definitely hitting that.

[G.A.V.]

I wish that'd happen with Fedor and Brock. I'd lol so hard.

Main event coming up, can't fucking wait. I'm expecting a real upset by Rua by KO for some reason, inb4 I eat my words.

[MexicanJew]

Chuck Liddell watching with his Dancing partner. He is definitely hitting that.

Who wouldnt? Smart guy he is. :lol:

[Tuffnutz]

I have no problem with the stoppage.

Ben had no defence and was going to get killed anyway.

[Tko4]

This night has been a bit of a disappointment. Here's to hoping for a good mainevent.

[Beebs]

Cain is a motherfucking machine.

[MexicanJew]

Im really looking forward to Machida picking Rua apart. Machida is the first MMA fighter I have seen that has punching/striking technique comparable to that of a boxer.

[IntentionalButt]

Cain is a motherfucking machine.

Yes but I'd like to see him challenged.

[IntentionalButt]

Im really looking forward to Machida picking Rua apart. Machida is the first MMA fighter I have seen that has punching/striking technique comparable to that of a boxer.

Uh, Spider?

[Big T]

Cain is a Machine vs guys that can't stuff the takedown...sorry...he gets hurt of of Shane or Brock..IMO..but what do I know..I am on a computer and he is the one fighting.

[MexicanJew]

Uh, Spider?

Silva is excellent also, but Machida really impresses me with his counterpunching and precision.

Silva is fast with reflexes, buts its his athletic ability that impresses and wins fights for him more than his astounding technique.

[radab]

Fuck im stoked about this fight

If vintage Rua turns up this is a dream fight


Come On Machida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tuffnutz]

War shoguuuuuunnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IntentionalButt]

Silva is excellent also, but Machida really impresses me with his counterpunching and precision.

Silva is fast with reflexes, buts its his athletic ability that impresses and wins fights for him more than his astounding technique.

He throws pretty straight punches for MMA.

Machida's definitely a great hitter though. :good

[MexicanJew]

Velasquez looks to have a greater overall skillset than Carwin or Lesnar. However, both those guys have 20+ pounds of sheer muscle and bulk on him, as well as staggering physical strength.

[IntentionalButt]

Velasquez looks to have a greater overall skillset than Carwin or Lesnar. However, both those guys have 20+ pounds of sheer muscle and bulk on him, as well as staggering physical strength.

Right. Lesnar would not get caught in any of the submissive positions Ben found himself in all night. He'd keep control out of Cain's hands with pretty minimal effort. He's more athletic and certainly stronger than Cain but less explosive. Could be really good.

[Addie]

This night has been a bit of a disappointment. Here's to hoping for a good mainevent.

Every UFC card is a big disappointment to be honest.

[evalistinho]

Velasquez looks to have a greater overall skillset than Carwin or Lesnar. However, both those guys have 20+ pounds of sheer muscle and bulk on him, as well as staggering physical strength.

True but Cain has Brown Pride you just cant beat that.....

[MexicanJew]

He throws pretty straight punches for MMA.

Machida's definitely a great hitter though. :good

He certainly does. I like Silva a lot.

Machida really impressed with his counterpunching though. Silva counterpunches, but its more simply him being able to dodge and fire off faster than his opponent.

Machida on the other hand, I could see the first time I saw him, he actively looks for his opponents patterns and movement cues, studies his opponents and looks for holes. He also has excellent footwork, and sets traps, walking his men into shots and awkward positions.

He is also very disciplined and composed in the cage, not at all on edge or cagey.

The whole raging Alpha male come screaming and fuming with a sociopath staredown, he doesnt do that.

Very cool and collected. :smoke

[Tuffnutz]

Shogun is going to attack Machida like a nutter, throwing crazy shit from all angles so that Machida can't read him. Then Machida is going to get caught by some crazy flying shit, dropped them subbed! :yep

[IntentionalButt]

He certainly does. I like Silva a lot.

Machida really impressed with his counterpunching though. Silva counterpunches, but its more simply him being able to dodge and fire off faster than his opponent.

Machida on the other hand, I could see the first time I saw him, he actively looks for his opponents patterns and movement cues, studies his opponents and looks for holes. He also has excellent footwork, and sets traps, walking his men into shots and awkward positions.

He is also very disciplined and composed in the cage, not at all on edge or cagey.

The whole raging Alpha male come screaming and fuming with a sociopath staredown, he doesnt do that.

Very cool and collected. :smoke

You're definitely right. Machida is more technical, more of a "timer", whereas Anderson relies on speed and athleticism like a prime RJJ. :nod

[Big T]

I just hope this is the Rua of old..and not the old looking Rua that fought Colman. We shall see..hope it's a great fight.

[MexicanJew]

True but Cain has Brown Pride you just cant beat that.....


That he does. However, fighting and beating a 265+ corn-fed white guy that looks like a Nazi experiment gone wrong is gonna take a lot more than pride.

Arreola had brown pride too. Didnt stop Klitschko from going Ivan Drago on his ass

[MexicanJew]

Shogun is going to attack Machida like a nutter, throwing crazy shit from all angles so that Machida can't read him. Then Machida is going to get caught by some crazy flying shit, dropped them subbed! :yep

Machida will just keep his guard up, pick off some punches, and either take Rua down when he gets himself offbalance, or catch with a counter and slow him down.

Counting on a wild hayemaker to win you a fight generally DOESNT win you the fight

[MexicanJew]

Are we the only ones in this forum? This is weird. Im used to having conversations with everyone.

Whats a good MMA site to go to, for future reference?

[Big T]

Fight is about to start and feed went out..ugh.

[jordan1]

Machida is just a beast!!

[Tuffnutz]

Good round for Shogun.

[Big T]

Both look sharp near the end of the first....going to be good.

[Tuffnutz]

Shoguns round definetly.

Just hope he does'nt gas.

[Beebs]

Machida just lost a round.

[IntentionalButt]

What is wrong with the dreadlocks guy? :-(

I don't expect every ref to be like Big Joe McCarthy, but come on. They cut away to close-ups of the fighters returning to their corners and I didn't even hear him say "let's go" or "okay, fight!" or anything. I glanced away for a second and when I looked back the clock had started and they were advancing toward each other. :twisted:

[Beebs]

I think Shogun will pull this off now.

[IntentionalButt]

Is it just me or is there some nervous energy from Machida? I know he's always "elusive" but the shots Shogun landed seem to have really put a bug in his ear...

[evalistinho]

That he does. However, fighting and beating a 265+ corn-fed white guy that looks like a Nazi experiment gone wrong is gonna take a lot more than pride.

Arreola had brown pride too. Didnt stop Klitschko from going Ivan Drago on his ass

You sir speak the truth.

[Big T]

Good movement and counters from The Champ..and good body kicks from Rua

[IntentionalButt]

I'll need to watch the 1st again. I think people (including Rogan) may be forking it over to Shogun just because he did better than expected. It was pretty close, when you take the knees and flush headkick from Machida in the first couple of minutes into account...

Shogun may have ultimately won it regardless, but there was good work from both.

He's definitely winning round 2.

[Tuffnutz]

Damn extremely close round.

Who ya got boys?

[Big T]

Clowns are booing....the fans aren't smart too boo whats going on...2 very good fighters in there tonight.

[Beebs]

I still think Shogun is going to pull this off.

[MexicanJew]

Machida, I just talked your ass up. Dont let me down

[IntentionalButt]

Clowns are booing....the fans aren't smart too boo whats going on...2 very good fighters in there tonight.


Durrrr...dey not fite lyk Chuck. :!:

:conf

[IntentionalButt]

Well, Dragon might need a KO.

[OuterDrake]

holy crap , i think shogun has his #

[Big T]

What a round 3...

[Tuffnutz]

Damn in on the edge of my seat big time.

[Beebs]

3 Rounds to Shogun.

Machida realizing point sparring will not cut it anymore.

[jordan1]

Rua wins this

[Tuffnutz]

No idea who won thr ladt 2 rounds but i got shogun for the first.

[G.A.V.]

Sorry is it just me or is the UFC commentary very Shogun based? It's like everytime they throw, they're all "NICE SHOT BY SHOGUN" not even fucking counting Machida's returns.

I personally have it 2-1 Machida but this is a very close fight.

[Tko4]

You can tell Rogan is rooting for Shogun, hah.

[IntentionalButt]

Well, Dragon might need a KO.

And he might be the first to do it, if he doesn't get put to sleep by a counter like that one at the end of the 3rd himself! :lol:

[Big T]

Rua looks fresh to start the next round.

[Big T]

Sorry is it just me or is the UFC commentary very Shogun based? It's like everytime they throw, they're all "NICE SHOT BY SHOGUN" not even fucking counting Machida's returns.

I personally have it 2-1 Machida but this is a very close fight.

Have to agree with that about the UFC Commentary.

[MexicanJew]

Machida needs to stop fucking around. He needs to go Erik Morales on Rua and impose himself.

[IntentionalButt]

"Championship rounds. Four. And maaaaaaybe five"

:lol: :ibutt

[Beebs]

It's not biased, Shoguns shots are much harder and much better, they are the ones that should be pointed out.

[IntentionalButt]

What is that, a nut-lock?? :blood

[Big T]

Rua killing him too the body.

[Marc]

Its like Jardine-Lidell with all those leg kicks

[Tuffnutz]

C'mon Shogun m'man!

[evalistinho]

Can shoguns nuts be any further down Rogans throat?

[Beebs]

4-0 Shogun, Just don't get KO'd.

[eze]

Too bad SHogun isn't mixing it up. Machida is prepared for the body shots/kicks every time. It's not a surprise shot.


Albeit he's still beating his ass and Machida has too be in tremendous pain.

[lobk]

Shogun has it so far in my book.

The leg of Machida is gone.

[IntentionalButt]

Lyoto's corner telling him he's doing good? Don't strike too much???

The guy needs a god damn KNOCKOUT! :patsch

[Beebs]

Can shoguns nuts be any further down Rogans throat?

He's calling it like everybody is seeing it; Shogun is shutting out Machida.

[G.A.V.]

2-2 atm. Why the fuck are the crowd booing? they're so retard, cali.

DUR HURRR WE WANNA SEE KNOCKOUTS SO WE CAME TO SEE MACHIDA VS. RUA

I hope California gets flushed away like the turd city it is, so says Hicks. Fuck L.A., flush it all.

[MexicanJew]

Fucking Machida

If Rua takes this he and Silva MUST fight each other. That will be a great story line

[IntentionalButt]

Rogan said earlier Machida looks like a Street Fighter character, Rua is looking like Sagat! :lol:

[Beebs]

2-2 atm. Why the fuck are the crowd booing? they're so retard, cali.

DUR HURRR WE WANNA SEE KNOCKOUTS SO WE CAME TO SEE MACHIDA VS. RUA

I hope California gets flushed away like the turd city it is, so says Hicks. Fuck L.A., flush it all.

You have the balls to insult anybody else, yet you give not one but two rounds to Machida?

You've lost it.

[Big T]

2-2 atm. Why the fuck are the crowd booing? they're so retard, cali.

DUR HURRR WE WANNA SEE KNOCKOUTS SO WE CAME TO SEE MACHIDA VS. RUA

I hope California gets flushed away like the turd city it is, so says Hicks. Fuck L.A., flush it all.

Their stupid....they just want to see guys fight like Dolts...both these guys are fighting smart.

[Beebs]

Get a takedown and end this Shogun.

[IntentionalButt]

The champ is giving this away. Retarded advice from his team and he's retarded for heeding it.

[lobk]

Shogun has been the agreesor, harder shot, landing more.

I have it 3 - 1 Rua so far

[IntentionalButt]

Get a takedown and end this Shogun.

You think he'll get robbed?

[Beebs]

Does Machida have no pride at all?

[evalistinho]

and NEW............

[lobk]

My final score 4 - 1 Rua.

[Beebs]

You think he'll get robbed?

I mean get the takedown and ride out the round. If he doesn't get at least 4 rounds he got robbed.

[Marc]

I have it for Shogun 4-1

Hotdamn

[Tuffnutz]

Needs to be a rematch whoever wins!

[Big T]

If Rua don't get the UD..then it's a joke...good smart fight from Rua.

[Koa]

Never thought I'd see Shogun fight a chess match. Always thought he was just a balls to the walls aggression -> opportunity guy.

[Tko4]

Shogun should win this. Pretty anti-climatic fight.

[Beebs]

Machida showed an absolute lack of any sort of aggresion.

[G.A.V.]

3-2 Rua.

Fucking rivetting fight, I hope to god I see this fight again, fuck the crowd, so much more interesting than seeing some douchebag champ fight some nobody challenger who knocked out 3 wallmart employees to get his shot.

Rua won, he solved the puzzle, but that is the most you're gonna solve from Machida in my eyes. Can't fucking take him down, can't destroy the chin, that's it.

[Tuffnutz]

feck!

[lobk]

fucking robbery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marc]

Bull fucking shit

[Tko4]

4-1 Shogun from me as well. Shogun fought a passive fight, and Machida had no idea what to do about it.

[IntentionalButt]

Ridiculous.

[jordan1]

Wow!!

[BobDigi5060]

Terrible decision. 3 rounds? Are you serious??

[Koa]

Wow. Sometimes you can put up a good fight and win ala Forrest vs. Rampage, other times you can win a decisive chess match and lose. Fail

[Big T]

You got to be kidding me...UFC= Joke

[Marc]

Machida is my favorite fighter ATM but fuckit I know a robbery when I see one

IT wasnt even close!!!!

[lobk]

I want to know what 3 rnds they scored for him.

He didn't do crap.

[IntentionalButt]

Machida showed an absolute lack of any sort of aggresion.

Moments, way too sporadic.

I think I can finally drop the Cerrone-Henderson issue. This was ten times the robbery, and I was rooting for Machida.

[they_killed_kenny]

What a fuking joke........Fuck Dana White

[codeman99998]

Robbery.

[Beebs]

WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!?!?!

That is fucking robbery. Absolute fucking robbery.

[OuterDrake]

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[Tko4]

Wow, horrible decision. I don't think Shogun did a ton to win this, but he clearly won it by the "ten point" must system.

[jordan1]

Oh, these are the same judge's from the Froch fight..:lol:

[IntentionalButt]

I remember some dink arguing that the reason boxing is "dying" is because MMA doesn't have any of the same bullshit with questionable/corrupt/incompetent scoring. :lol:

[Tko4]

I was rooting for Machida, but he clearly lost. I feel bad for Shogun, who got absolutely hosed.

[AceNguyen]

Shogun won 4 rounds...absolute robbery of the highest degree. UFC protecting "their" guy.

[Tuffnutz]

Muay Thai > Karate! :yep

[IntentionalButt]

Wow, horrible decision. I don't think Shogun did a ton to win this, but he clearly won it by the "ten point" must system.

Yep. Just as Cerrone won 3 rounds NQA, Rua won 4 NQA and arguably all 5.

[Big T]

And you know Dana see money in his eyes for a rematch. A total joke..and thats why you need more the one powerhouse Promotion in MMA.

[Tko4]

Outside the third round, Machida really landed nothing of merit.

[jordan1]

I remember some dink arguing that the reason boxing is "dying" is because MMA doesn't have any of the same bullshit with questionable/corrupt/incompetent scoring. :lol:

:thumbsup

[lobk]

Shogun was all class in the lost. Even knowing he got screwed.

[jordan1]

I like Machida but come on he lost :patsch

[One Punch KO]

I scored it 3-2 Machida.

[Tko4]

Why are they showing a fight they just showed on Spike a couple hours ago?

UFC tonight = FAIL.

[IntentionalButt]

Outside the third round, Machida really landed nothing of merit.

The first round was competitive. Machida's knees to the face and head kick - while not much - were the offensive highlights of the first two minutes.

[jordan1]

Shogun was all class in the lost. Even knowing he got screwed.


Ya, Shogun is a class guy!!

[IntentionalButt]

I scored it 3-2 Machida.

Could you break down which??

[Marc]

I scored it 3-2 Machida.

Really now

[radab]

Shogun vs Anderson please

[300press]

UFC is fixed now, I wait and dream for a new Pride organization to start again.

[walk with me]

Lmfao!!!!

[Tuffnutz]

The first round was competitive. Machida's knees to the face and head kick - while not much - were the offensive highlights of the first two minutes.
Shogun definetly took the first imo.

[jordan1]

I had it 4-1 Shogun

[G.A.V.]

You have the balls to insult anybody else, yet you give not one but two rounds to Machida?

You've lost it.
Look, fuck off, please. I'm sick of these turdbasket judges like you who are all "OH I JUDGE YOU BECAUSE YOU GAVE TWO ROUNDS TO MACHIDA". I fucking did, okay? I wasn't listening to Rogan and Goldberg going on about how AMAZING Rua was doing and discounting Machida's counter punching, fuck that, okay? You don't discount the counter punch because you think the original was better, you tally. You score, that is the sport. I still scored it to Rua anyway, so why bitch?

Machida did not win that fight in my eyes, Rua did well to solve that puzzle, and the guy is elite, definitely. I can see these guys fucking up Light-Heavyweight definitely. To me, it just seems you can't put either guys in the ring with anyone at LH. I mean, it's all so boring to them. Either of them will fuck up Jardine, Silva, Wanderlei, Griffin, Tito, Liddell, Rampage, what's the fucking point, really? They need to fight eachother or Anderson, that's the only guys who will be able to fight. It's sort of like a different division. You have "light-heavyweight" and "fucking elite light-heavyweight", those guys are in the felh.

Look, I'm not gonna be one of these dickheads who screams "ROBBERY" because tbh, I'm tired of you fucks. I've sat here through Paulie Malignaggi/Diaz, I've sat here through Froch/Dirrell and honestly, it's boring. I enjoyed the fight, I believe Rua won, what the fuck does either guy lose? Nothing, because it's UFC. That's the beauty. Hate the thing as much as you want but either guy will fight on the main card again. The thing you want to focus the most on tonight is the crowd. The moron idiots who bought a ticket and dared to boo a fucking chess match. I bet 50% of those idiot fucks bought the tickets because they saw Machida KO Evans and thought "OH LOOK LETS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON AND WEAR A WHITE FLAG WITH A RED DOT IN THE MIDDLE HE'S SO GREAT". To quote Ali in subtext, Lyoto Machida will beat Rashad Evans any day of the week and Shogun Rua will beat Rashad Evans any day of the week.

Jerry's final thought: Just stop fucking bitching about the ROBBERY shit, it's boring, man. UFC is a little bit different in that aspect, as much of a cunt you think Dana is when it comes to making fights, he'll know that Rua and Machida will get main event fights next. Those guys are made for eachother in a tactical fight. Score it how you want, that fight you could watch for about 4 fucking hours and still find interesting.

[codeman99998]

It just doesn't make sense for the fight to be "fixed" against Machida, I thought none of the UFC brass wanted him to be champ anyways because he is so "boring".

[Tko4]

ESPN says, "Machida decisions Rua, seizes title." :patsch

[untmike]

Although this is a good day for boxing, I just cant help but feel bad for Shogun. I just cant stand when fighters get robbed. I didnt even watch the fight but judging from the uproar it sounds like a complete robbery.

[BobDigi5060]

I knew they were gonna give it to Machida since the scores were so close, let's hope for an immediate rematch.

[Ubersteve]

Don't see what boxing has to do with it.

Anyway, there's no real reason they'd rather have Lyoto there than Shogun, not corrupt imo, just a really fucking terrible decision.

[Tuffnutz]

Shogun is in tears.

[jordan1]

Ha, it is what it is and no matter what we will keep on waching..:yep

[Slothrop]

Ha, it is what it is and no matter what we will keep on waching..:yep

:lol:

[One Punch KO]

Could you break down which??

I gave Machida the first three rounds. I thought he was landing the more solid shots to the body while Rua was working the legs. Machida also stuffed all of Shogun's takedown attempts and the few exchanges where they traded blow for blow I thought Machida was better off. After that Shogun took control for the rest of the fight and won the final two rounds.

I'm quite surprised that everyone on here thought it was such a robbery, but I just checked Sherdog and MMA Junkie and they seem to think Rua won as well.

I'll watch it again but my initial reaction was a narrow Machida victory.

[IntentionalButt]

I gave Machida the first three rounds. I thought he was landing the more solid shots to the body while Rua was working the legs. Machida also stuffed all of Shogun's takedown attempts and the few exchanges where they traded blow for blow I thought Machida was better off. After that Shogun took control for the rest of the fight and won the final two rounds.

I'm quite surprised that everyone on here thought it was such a robbery, but I just checked Sherdog and MMA Junkie and they seem to think Rua won as well.

I'll watch it again but my initial reaction was a narrow Machida victory.

Machida's defense was pretty good in the first two rounds but I can't bring myself to award them to him on it alone. His only significant offense in round 1 came in the form of the initial volley of knees and a really beautiful head kick - and that was all spread out over the first two minutes.