The machida era

[boxingcar]

was short lived...

He lost that fight , the guy was exposed but the ufc needs a consistent champion. So there was no way Shogun was gonna win this by ud. He needed a ko , sub or tko victory in order to secure a victory but he didn't.

I mean just imagine. After all the fucking insane hype behind the machida clan , they weren't just gonna give the dec to shogun...MMA is starting to look more and more like boxing...plagued by dubious judges' decisions.

Or maybe this isn't fair...because the UFC isn't mma. Just an organisation. But it's pretty clear that it's taking a similar route.

[G.A.V.]

Exposed? Oh for fuck sake, you're acting like he's Khan. What's his issue man? He has an amazing chin and was hitting Rua well, the key is the legs, and Rua won the fight, fair enough. But fucking hell, you act as if he's the Mayweather of the LH division. He won 15 of his fights undisputed, and suddenly everyone's all "HE'S EXPOSED! HE'S A PHONEY".

Sick of fucking people judging these days.

[Kestrel]

We should sent a clear message to UFC and not buy the next event.. I hope Shogun leaves UFC and go to Strikeforce

[audio101]

Dana better come out and say he thought Rua won, he can't cover up a decision this horrible.

[audio101]

Exposed? Oh for fuck sake, you're acting like he's Khan. What's his issue man? He has an amazing chin and was hitting Rua well, the key is the legs, and Rua won the fight, fair enough. But fucking hell, you act as if he's the Mayweather of the LH division. He won 15 of his fights undisputed, and suddenly everyone's all "HE'S EXPOSED! HE'S A PHONEY".

Sick of fucking people judging these days.

You aren't very smart are you?:deal

[Big T]

YOu can also talk about the monster hype for Cain V. Too me it was a OK win for him. For a guy that is too be a killer wrestler with bigtime power...Ben kept powering back up..and didn't seem that hurt when it was stopped...UFC is about Hype... Rua got screwed..that is for sure...Also, this card wasn't that good at all, and the Main Event did live up to the Hype, the the Judges got it all wrong IMO that is.

[Big T]

Wouldn't say he was Exposed....Just that Rua fought a great fight vs another Great fighter.

[radab]

Exposed? Oh for fuck sake, you're acting like he's Khan. What's his issue man? He has an amazing chin and was hitting Rua well, the key is the legs, and Rua won the fight, fair enough. But fucking hell, you act as if he's the Mayweather of the LH division. He won 15 of his fights undisputed, and suddenly everyone's all "HE'S EXPOSED! HE'S A PHONEY".

Sick of fucking people judging these days.



Exactly. He took a legend - Shogun at his best - through 5 hard rounds

"Exposed" :patsch

[Beebs]

Shogun could easily have won that fight 50-45, the judges flat out fucking robbed him.

The key is that those are the same judges who work for all other organizations too; I don't really see a motive for keeping Machida as champ over Shogun at the expense of a clear robbery; Shogun is 9 times out of 10 the more exciting fan friendly fighter.

[Dynamite Kid]

was short lived...

He lost that fight , the guy was exposed but the ufc needs a consistent champion. So there was no way Shogun was gonna win this by ud. He needed a ko , sub or tko victory in order to secure a victory but he didn't.

I mean just imagine. After all the fucking insane hype behind the machida clan , they weren't just gonna give the dec to shogun...MMA is starting to look more and more like boxing...plagued by dubious judges' decisions.

Or maybe this isn't fair...because the UFC isn't mma. Just an organisation. But it's pretty clear that it's taking a similar route.

This is getting ridiculous. Shogun worked his ass off for that fight and should have claimed his victory. I understand that in Combat sports, if their's no stoppage, it becomes a sport based on opinion, I understand that, but to award a UD to a fighter that landed NOTHING significant, landed nothing of damage, or anything of real note, it comes a point that for a fight fan(and for a fighter) when you have the right to bitch just a little bit. This decision tonight was absolute fuckin crap!!! I would think judges would atleast do a better job screwing someone if they wanted to take a victory away from a fighter, but no, they made this shit blatantly obvious. And shame on Machida for admitting he got his ass handed to him. Fuckin disgusting!!!:fire

[Beebs]

YOu can also talk about the monster hype for Cain V. Too me it was a OK win for him. For a guy that is too be a killer wrestler with bigtime power...Ben kept powering back up..and didn't seem that hurt when it was stopped...UFC is about Hype... Rua got screwed..that is for sure...Also, this card wasn't that good at all, and the Main Event did live up to the Hype, the the Judges got it all wrong IMO that is.

If Ben Rothewell was just some no talent big guy you might have a point, but he is a solid fighter with a lot of experience who isn't the easiest guy to hold down, he got ragdolled by Cain.

[Kestrel]

Shogun could easily have won that fight 50-45, the judges flat out fucking robbed him.

The key is that those are the same judges who work for all other organizations too; I don't really see a motive for keeping Machida as champ over Shogun at the expense of a clear robbery; Shogun is 9 times out of 10 the more exciting fan friendly fighter.

Perhaps those Judges thought it was a boxing match so they didn't count all the leg kicks by shogun.

[G.A.V.]

You aren't very smart are you?:deal
Yeah, I know fuck all about boxing and UFC history, I admit that.

But what is exposure in the fighting world? Not what I saw tonight. Exposure is when a fighter shows something that other fighters can follow up with, what their weakness is and guys can capitalise. What happens if someone like Griffin or Jardine try to do what Rua did against Machida? They go for his legs and he will pick them off all fucking night. He didn't "expose" him, he beat him. Because he's Rua, he's that good and he's sparred with him, he didn't go in with tactics that wouldn't work for Machida like Evans and Thiago did. Everyone has to pick faults with a fighter. I'm stunned that people have such an obsession with an undefeated fighter yet at the same time want to pick holes in them.

I just don't get it man. He comes into the fight all elusive, never been knocked down, never lost, and then he loses a split decision (in my eyes) and everyone is all "OMG HE EXPOSED". Yeah, exposed, let's see the upcoming LH division expose him, let's see Thiago do it. Please, feel free to name one fighter in that division who will be able to do that against Machida except Rua and Silva. The answer is: none more black.

Rua did awesome tonight and deserved the win, but it was not a robbery, and it was not an exposure, get your facts together and appreciate what you saw tonight.

[jimmie]

These decisions are getting worse and worse. I now apolgize for calling Serra-Hughes a robbery no fights like tonight and Henderson-Cerrone and yes you certain assholes im still complaining those where robberies.

[Flexb]

Man, the fight could have gone either way. I had Shogun up by 1 point, but fukin Joe Rogan was so biased with Shogun it was sickening. Machida would land a hard punch while shogun would land a leg kick and Rogan would only comment on the leg kick. Me and another watching couldn't believe how repeatedly Rogan would neglect to say anything about Machida's connects and only comment on Shoguns. Shitty fight regardless and Machida needs to step it up.

[chimba]

Machida won that fight 3-2. First three rounds were close but clear. Shogun came in excellent shape and fought his heart out. But please, We can watch this together in Youtube slowmo, he ate alot of knees especially the 1st two rounds, and Machida was countering him well.

For every leg kick he missed or even grazed Machida early on he ate a straight shot. I suppose we dont count those.

I mean the first round alone Shogun took 3 hard knees to the midsection in the 1st 10 seconds. , that was the round right there.

2nd round, I can count the time Rua went in for the kicks and got countered every single time.

The third was the closest til that exchange at the end that Lyoto definitely won.

The problem I had with Machida is that he was gassed after three. The leg kicks affected him but clearly he needs to improve that cardio.

[G.A.V.]

Man, the fight could have gone either way. I had Shogun up by 1 point, but fukin Joe Rogan was so biased with Shogun it was sickening. Machida would land a hard punch while shogun would land a leg kick and Rogan would only comment on the leg kick. Me and another watching couldn't believe how repeatedly Rogan would neglect to say anything about Machida's connects and only comment on Shoguns. Shitty fight regardless and Machida needs to step it up.
Fucking exactly man, at least you're not a goddamn idiot fuck like the rest of these forums are filled with screaming robbery at any chance they get.

[Tko4]

Exposed? Come on. Machida lost, but then again, so has almost every fighter ever in MMA. So every fighter in the UFC has been exposed to be a fraud? Maybe the OP is tougher than any MMA fighter with a loss.

[Tuffnutz]

Machida won that fight 3-2. First three rounds were close but clear. Shogun came in excellent shape and fought his heart out. But please, We can watch this together in Youtube slowmo, he ate alot of knees especially the 1st two rounds, and Machida was countering him well.

I mean the first round alone Shogun took 3 knees to the midsection in teh 1st 10 seconds. , that was the round right there.

2nd round, I can count the time Rua went in for the kicks and got countered every single time.

The third was the closest til that exchange at the end that Lyoto definitely won.

The problem I had with Machida is that he was gassed after three. The leg kicks affected him but clearly he needs to improve that cardio.

Shogun did more damage though. :D

[OuterDrake]

Man, the fight could have gone either way. I had Shogun up by 1 point, but fukin Joe Rogan was so biased with Shogun it was sickening. Machida would land a hard punch while shogun would land a leg kick and Rogan would only comment on the leg kick. Me and another watching couldn't believe how repeatedly Rogan would neglect to say anything about Machida's connects and only comment on Shoguns. Shitty fight regardless and Machida needs to step it up.

Joe rogan was hyping machida far more before the fight. Caling him a video game character and a comic book karate blah blah.

he was calling it like he saw it. Machida had ribs and legs tattered . cuts all over his face

CMON:verysad

[boxingcar]

Exposed? Oh for fuck sake, you're acting like he's Khan. What's his issue man? He has an amazing chin and was hitting Rua well, the key is the legs, and Rua won the fight, fair enough. But fucking hell, you act as if he's the Mayweather of the LH division. He won 15 of his fights undisputed, and suddenly everyone's all "HE'S EXPOSED! HE'S A PHONEY".

Sick of fucking people judging these days.

Don't get me wrong , i think machida is a great fighter (he's consistent & always has a great gameplan)...However , he always had the same fucking gameplan since day one. (and yet , all his opponents fell for it).

I predicted in this thread , that Shogun would be different.
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Maybe i wasn't 100% correct , but shogun was indeed...different from all of machida's previous opponents. This one had a smart gameplan.

Like i said Machida is great and he deserved his belt (at the time)...But he should've lost tonight. I never went gaga for the guy & never fell for the ridiculous hype behind his entire career for 3 reasons.

1 - His fight vs Greco
2 - Vs Penn
3 - "the gameplan"

(a gameplan which is solid & smart , no doubt , but he's been using it for years) ...I personally was more amazed by the fact that it took +6 years for someone to take advantage of the holes in his gameplan. Watch all his fights...He's been doing the same shit for years. It was only a question of time before someone tried something different.

Shogun was aggressive but also very patient...He did a great job. Just a shame that he got robbed.

[chimba]

Shogun did more damage though. :D

Im not denying that, but every judges gave it the same score. I knew Shogun needed to take the belt because, thsi thing is scored by rounds and the 1st three was Machidas, and I was right.

Again we can count everything landed on slowmo together.

Shogun fought the perfect fight, I think Lyoto wasnt ready for that and it was a stiff challenge.

[Ubersteve]

Well they count aggression and octagon control too and Shogun certainly had those.

Honestly can't see any way people are giving Lyoto that many rounds. I scored it 5-0, closest round was the 2nd.

[Flexb]

Joe rogan was hyping machida far more before the fight. Caling him a video game character and a comic book karate blah blah.

he was calling it like he saw it. Machida had ribs and legs tattered . cuts all over his face

CMON:verysad

Rogan LOVES Shogun. A hard punch beats a fukin leg kick anyday yet Rogan wouldn't even mention Machida's shots to Shoguns face. I remember one instant where machida landed probably 3 clean shots to Shoguns 1 and rogan said fuk all about Machida's and commented on Shogun. This is a fight I'd have to watch with the volume down. Everytime I thought I saw something good from Machida fukin Rogan would say "wow what a kick from Shogun" I was like WTF. Rogan kept commenting on Machida's reddened stomach but fuk, look at Shoguns! It was just as red for fuk sakes.

[Flexb]

Well they count aggression and octagon control too and Shogun certainly had those.

Honestly can't see any way people are giving Lyoto that many rounds. I scored it 5-0, closest round was the 2nd.

5-0?? are you blind!

[boxingcar]

Exposed? Come on. Machida lost, but then again, so has almost every fighter ever in MMA. So every fighter in the UFC has been exposed to be a fraud? Maybe the OP is tougher than any MMA fighter with a loss.

Well ,i'm in the minority here but i think the hype behind Lesnar is also insane and i'm surprised nobody has been able to dominate him so far.

Couture almost did it. but got tkoed ...(Lesnar was clearly gassed in that fight , not to mention Randy...who's smaller & older...was at times , outpowering the big guy during the clinch).

Lesnar is a solid wrestler...he's huge and very athletic but he's also quite one dimensional i wouldn't give this guy a chance in hell vs a well rounded hw (such as Josh "the roid" Barnett or Prime Nogueira or prime Couture for example)...

I wouldn't say that he's a fraud. (even though he had a direct shot at the belt , right after defeating Heath Herring , which is absurd...but then again so did couture...When couture decided to make a "come back" he had an instant opportunity to fight Sylvia)

[Ubersteve]

Machida was struggling to move by the end, those leg kicks were doing way more damage than his punches.

[G.A.V.]

Machida was struggling to move by the end, those leg kicks were doing way more damage than his punches.
Agreed, Rua did fucking well good with the leg kicks.

[Vitor Belfort]

Yeah, I know fuck all about boxing and UFC history, I admit that.

But what is exposure in the fighting world? Not what I saw tonight. Exposure is when a fighter shows something that other fighters can follow up with, what their weakness is and guys can capitalise. What happens if someone like Griffin or Jardine try to do what Rua did against Machida? They go for his legs and he will pick them off all fucking night. He didn't "expose" him, he beat him. Because he's Rua, he's that good and he's sparred with him, he didn't go in with tactics that wouldn't work for Machida like Evans and Thiago did. Everyone has to pick faults with a fighter. I'm stunned that people have such an obsession with an undefeated fighter yet at the same time want to pick holes in them.

I just don't get it man. He comes into the fight all elusive, never been knocked down, never lost, and then he loses a split decision (in my eyes) and everyone is all "OMG HE EXPOSED". Yeah, exposed, let's see the upcoming LH division expose him, let's see Thiago do it. Please, feel free to name one fighter in that division who will be able to do that against Machida except Rua and Silva. The answer is: none more black.

Rua did awesome tonight and deserved the win, but it was not a robbery, and it was not an exposure, get your facts together and appreciate what you saw tonight.

Ok i was fine with what your sayin until that comment:huh Shogun clearly won the fight and everybody who saw it other than the 3 blind mice thought shogun won that fight so how is that not a robbery?

[chimba]

Why the fuck is everyone talking aggression, SHogun had it but he got popped over and over again and got kneed.

Fisrt 10 seconds three solid knee by Lyoto and youre talking about aggression and legkicks?? He did more damage there than anything that happened in that 1st round.

You guys cant be counting the times Shogun pinned Lyoto against the cage and kneed him in the thighs?? Lyoto landed the cleaner shots the first three rounds and as for round three, there was an big exchange and MAchida dominated that exchange.

Again, Youtube, slowmo breakdown

[G.A.V.]

Ok i was fine with what your sayin until that comment:huh Shogun clearly won the fight and everybody who saw it other than the 3 blind mice thought shogun won that fight so how is that not a robbery?
I felt he won the fight too, but I wouldn't call it a "robbery". Even if you felt he won, fair enough but it's the amount these guys bitch and stop going on about how UFC is fail and they're gonna stop watching. Both guys will fight main event again and will probably rematch, what's the fucking issue?

The word is banded around here so much that it's just lost its meaning.

[D-MAC]

Rogan LOVES Shogun. A hard punch beats a fukin leg kick anyday yet Rogan wouldn't even mention Machida's shots to Shoguns face. I remember one instant where machida landed probably 3 clean shots to Shoguns 1 and rogan said fuk all about Machida's and commented on Shogun. This is a fight I'd have to watch with the volume down. Everytime I thought I saw something good from Machida fukin Rogan would say "wow what a kick from Shogun" I was like WTF. Rogan kept commenting on Machida's reddened stomach but fuk, look at Shoguns! It was just as red for fuk sakes.

Yeah, I noticed Rogan was ignoring a lot of Machida's work. I still had Shogun winning, but will have to go away and watch it again with the volume down.

[bachatu]

I watched the fight in mute and its hard to see the fight in favor for Machida:

key things that should have given Rua the advantage in the scoring

1) Rua was the busier of the two ...seemed to land more
2) Rua seemed to land the harder and more effective blows and hurt his opponent more than he got hurt
3) Rua controlled the pace and fought his fight.... at the 5th round, Machida looked tired like a different fighter than Ive ever seen before, Rua looked the same as he did in the first round.

I think body language was big in this fight. The fight started ok for Machida but Rua took him out of his cat and mouse game by taking it out of him with leg kicks. Machida had his moments early with the knees to the body and some head punches, but the leg kicks were the story of the fight and Machida had no answer for them! He was clearly bothered as he ate many to the left leg and body - he would change stances throughout and sometimes seemed to take a couple seconds to shake off the kicks.
I scored it 4 to 1 for Rua...could have been 3-2. It seemed like for every blow Machida landed, Rua landed one or sometimes two and he seemed to be the first to get off and catch Machida coming in.

Additional final comments: Im a bit surprised Machida had no answer to the leg kicks and impressed with Rua's game plan and persistence. Rua really seemed to study Machida well and came in with a good game plan; he also managed to fight differently in that he wasn't as wild has he has shown to be and showed so decent defense when he needed to.

[scurlaruntings]

YOu can also talk about the monster hype for Cain V. Too me it was a OK win for him. For a guy that is too be a killer wrestler with bigtime power...Ben kept powering back up..and didn't seem that hurt when it was stopped...UFC is about Hype... Rua got screwed..that is for sure...Also, this card wasn't that good at all, and the Main Event did live up to the Hype, the the Judges got it all wrong IMO that is.Mate i havent even watched this card. I said from the outset it never interested me when it was announced and i got laughed off the board. Iv never bought into the Machida hype. This is the reason why. Machida is a good fighter no question about that but too many were quick to jump on the bandwagon for reasons i just could not fathom.

[scurlaruntings]

Rogan LOVES Shogun. A hard punch beats a fukin leg kick anyday yet Rogan wouldn't even mention Machida's shots to Shoguns face. I remember one instant where machida landed probably 3 clean shots to Shoguns 1 and rogan said fuk all about Machida's and commented on Shogun. This is a fight I'd have to watch with the volume down. Everytime I thought I saw something good from Machida fukin Rogan would say "wow what a kick from Shogun" I was like WTF. Rogan kept commenting on Machida's reddened stomach but fuk, look at Shoguns! It was just as red for fuk sakes.If you watched Shogun when he was kicking ass in PRIDE you would too.

[Rangersfan1982]

Sad but true.

[ufoalf]

Rogan LOVES Shogun. A hard punch beats a fukin leg kick anyday yet Rogan wouldn't even mention Machida's shots to Shoguns face. I remember one instant where machida landed probably 3 clean shots to Shoguns 1 and rogan said fuk all about Machida's and commented on Shogun. This is a fight I'd have to watch with the volume down. Everytime I thought I saw something good from Machida fukin Rogan would say "wow what a kick from Shogun" I was like WTF. Rogan kept commenting on Machida's reddened stomach but fuk, look at Shoguns! It was just as red for fuk sakes.

I had my volume down because I thought Dana would make Rogan suck Machida's balls. Clearly, as it finds out, it wasn't the truth. Oh, and you can't really land a hard punch after a Shogun kick. You're most likely will be out of position to land anything from your legs. Also, 1 clean kick to a leg does a LOT more damage than w/e the fuck Machida ever landed.

[Flexb]

I had my volume down because I thought Dana would make Rogan suck Machida's balls. Clearly, as it finds out, it wasn't the truth. Oh, and you can't really land a hard punch after a Shogun kick. You're most likely will be out of position to land anything from your legs. Also, 1 clean kick to a leg does a LOT more damage than w/e the fuck Machida ever landed.

Those shots upstairs from Machida were landing right before some of the kicks from Shogun. I would be thinking "nice shot," then Good old Rogan time and time again would only comment on the kicks by Shogun.

I'll reward a clean shot to the face any day over a leg kick. Guys don't get KO'd by leg kicks.

[Flexb]

Yeah, I noticed Rogan was ignoring a lot of Machida's work. I still had Shogun winning, but will have to go away and watch it again with the volume down.

I did also by a point, but Rogan was fukin with my head so I'd have to listen with the volume down.

[achillesthegreat]

The invincibility factor is lost unless he can come back and blow him out in the rematch.

[Flexb]

Machida didn't look himself mind you Shogun probably played a large part in the reasoning why. I'd like to see Rashad and Shogun, I have a feeling Rashad would fair better against him then he did against Machida.

[québecwarrior]

Rashad get TKOed by Rua
Rua would humiliate him in the standup game with his kicks.

[Nuke]

Machida didn't look himself mind you Shogun probably played a large part in the reasoning why. I'd like to see Rashad and Shogun, I have a feeling Rashad would fair better against him then he did against Machida.


hahaha wow. :patsch

[Nuke]

I did also by a point, but Rogan was fukin with my head so I'd have to listen with the volume down.



I don't understand the whole Rogan excuse, do you NOT have your own opinion or thoughts? Does Rogan control your mind? Its nonsense and just an excuse.

[Bill Butcher]

Those shots upstairs from Machida were landing right before some of the kicks from Shogun. I would be thinking "nice shot," then Good old Rogan time and time again would only comment on the kicks by Shogun.

I'll reward a clean shot to the face any day over a leg kick. Guys don't get KO'd by leg kicks.

Well, Rua never got KO`d by any face shots either & men DO get KO`d by leg kicks, not straight out but by accumulation, especially when those kicks are been thrown by one of the hardest Thai kickers in MMA, Lyoto definitely felt those kicks more than anything felt by Rua.

Rua did more damage & won more rds, in a fair world thats game, set & match but the judges had different ideas obviously.

[Nuke]

stats say Shogun out landed and threw to Machida, also damage (visualy anyway) was also in favor of Shogun.

[Bill Butcher]

Machida didn't look himself mind you Shogun probably played a large part in the reasoning why. I'd like to see Rashad and Shogun, I have a feeling Rashad would fair better against him then he did against Machida.

Whether Evans would fair better or worse vs Rua than he did vs Machida is irrelevant, the fact is, its highly unlikely Evans could beat Rua, he aint on Rua`s level in a striking sense & he`d likely get his ass submitted if he took Rua down - which aint a guarantee either.

[audio101]

I can't believe the yahoo sports article today from Kevin lole who the covers the UFC:
‘Shogun’ has no one to blame but himself

If this fool getting paid by Dana? He's placing the blame on shogun and his trainers, while defending the judges.:patsch

[Nuke]

I can't believe the yahoo sports article today from Kevin lole who the covers the UFC:
‘Shogun’ has no one to blame but himself

If this fool getting paid by Dana? He's placing the blame on shogun and his trainers, while defending the judges.:patsch



don't listen to that twat, he's on the payroll. Let the damage control begin!

[Flexb]

I can't believe the yahoo sports article today from Kevin lole who the covers the UFC:
‘Shogun’ has no one to blame but himself

If this fool getting paid by Dana? He's placing the blame on shogun and his trainers, while defending the judges.:patsch
Well duh, it was a close fight. Rogan's on the payroll too and was clearing favoring Shogun with his bias commenting during the fight.

[Flexb]

Whether Evans would fair better or worse vs Rua than he did vs Machida is irrelevant, the fact is, its highly unlikely Evans could beat Rua, he aint on Rua`s level in a striking sense & he`d likely get his ass submitted if he took Rua down - which aint a guarantee either.

Not really irrelevant -- these 2 could hook up in the near future.

[audio101]

Well duh, it was a close fight. Rogan's on the payroll too and was clearing favoring Shogun with his bias commenting during the fight.

His job is to call the fight as he sees it live, and shogun was landing all the actual shots. Why would he be favoring the losing fighter who was Machida?:huh

[Totomabs]

His job is to call the fight as he sees it live, and shogun was landing all the actual shots. Why would he be favoring the losing fighter who was Machida?:huh


agree

[PH|LLA]

The fight was great. One thing for sure is that noone was exposed. I had Machida up by 1 point. Rematch will be amazing.

[nfc90210]

We should sent a clear message to UFC and not buy the next event.. I hope Shogun leaves UFC and go to Strikeforce

Dave Meltzer said that everyone he spoke to from the UFC thought that Rua won. It's not the UFC's fault. They don't pick the judges. Blame the CSAC.

Also, from the Wrestling Observer site....


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Lyoto vs. Shogun scores

Nelson Hamilton gave Lyoto rounds 2, 3 and 4.

Cecil Peoples and Marcos Rosales gave him rounds 1, 2 and 3. How the fuck could anyone give Machida round four?

[nfc90210]

Double post.

[Flexb]

His job is to call the fight as he sees it live, and shogun was landing all the actual shots. Why would he be favoring the losing fighter who was Machida?:huh

So why was Rogan constantly commenting on Machida's reddened stomach yet neglecting to mention Shoguns equally reddened stomach?

[Flexb]

Anyway, I have a feeling the hype was getting to Machida's head when you look at some of the comments he was making leading up to the fight. Case in point, talking about making 5 title defenses then wanting Brock. Wtf. Make 1 defense at a time. Looking ahead like that is never good.