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jabjab
10-28-2009, 08:29 AM
Tony Bellew Step Up in Class with his oponent for Friday, Jindrich Velecky - (Won 16 (15 KO) - Lost 6 - Drew 0). Recently Velecky went 10 rounds with the current WBO super middleweight champion Robert Stieglitz.
Velecky KO'd Michal Bilak in the 1st round. The same Bikak who went the distance with Paul Smith in Smiths last fight.
This shows he is a very dangerous fighter, with alot of experience and should give Bellew tough test.
How do you think Bellew will do?:bbb
cotto20
10-28-2009, 08:31 AM
Tony Bellew Step Up in Class with his oponent for Friday, Jindrich Velecky - (Won 16 (15 KO) - Lost 6 - Drew 0). Recently Velecky went 10 rounds with the current WBO super middleweight champion Robert Stieglitz.
Velecky KO'd Michal Bilak in the 1st round. The same Bikak who went the distance with Paul Smith in Smiths last fight.
This shows he is a very dangerous fighter, with alot of experience and should give Bellew tough test.
How do you think Bellew will do?:bbb
Good to see bellew finally geting a good test, this should be a intresting fight, also we will find out just how hard bellew punches
jabjab
10-28-2009, 08:42 AM
I think bellew will show his power on friday night, i just hope the fight gets shown on TV
achillesthegreat
10-28-2009, 08:49 AM
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brown bomber
10-28-2009, 08:54 AM
Tony Bellew Step Up in Class with his oponent for Friday, Jindrich Velecky - (Won 16 (15 KO) - Lost 6 - Drew 0). Recently Velecky went 10 rounds with the current WBO super middleweight champion Robert Stieglitz.
Velecky KO'd Michal Bilak in the 1st round. The same Bikak who went the distance with Paul Smith in Smiths last fight.
This shows he is a very dangerous fighter, with alot of experience and should give Bellew tough test.
How do you think Bellew will do?:bbbI think its a typically dangerous and pointless Sports Network/ Frank ****** promotions match up.
I have no idea how he will get on because he has no British form and the result will give us little idea of Tony's progress.
15 ko's indicate he can punch a bit so Tony wins no ones' going to care (in terms of value of victory) and if he were to get caught cold or with a butt or something then his career suffers a major setback against an unknown opponent.
These type of matches are pointless. If your going to step him up in class do it against someone with British form not some eastern european who could be great or could be shit- who knows.
Yuri Romanov, Lazlo Bognar, Afif Djelti, Yuri Epifantsev, Andreas Galfi, Lorant Szabo all emerged from nowhere with wins over British fighters who had no clue whether they were going to have a typically easy or unusually tough night.
Stupid Match up. And no one can predict the outcome with any accuracy.
That said Tony Best of luck... :happy:happy
avidlemon
10-28-2009, 08:57 AM
I like the fact he is being "trusted" with such a match up.
Howver i hope it doesn't come back to bite him on the arse the same way in which allowing prescott fighting khan did
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 08:58 AM
I like the fact he is being "trusted" with such a match up.
Howver i hope it doesn't come back to bite him on the arse the same way in which allowing prescott fighting khan did:patschOh yes add prescott to the list above.
jabjab
10-28-2009, 09:03 AM
i agree it is a pointless matchup and a potential banana skin. but in saying that, i know tony personally and he is very confident of a victory. i watched him and frankie gavin training last night with anthony farnell, and both fighters look in superb shape and condition.
i think tony will stop this guy in the middle rounds.:bbb
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 09:05 AM
i agree it is a pointless matchup and a potential banana skin. but in saying that, i know tony personally and he is very confident of a victory. i watched him and frankie gavin training last night with anthony farnell, and both fighters look in superb shape and condition.
i think tony will stop this guy in the middle rounds.:bbbI hope so too. No doubt he will. Hate these matches though. Why not step him up against someone British. I'm not racist or anything but its a no-win situation for the lad.
Great website by the way mate. :good
jabjab
10-28-2009, 09:08 AM
Thanks Jeff.
i agree mate, but what people dont no is alot of good british light heavyweights wont fight tony, so what else can he do?
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 09:15 AM
Thanks Jeff.
i agree mate, but what people dont no is alot of good british light heavyweights wont fight tony, so what else can he do?I don't blame him and I feel bad for Dean Powell who has a tough job, but its just something that needs to change for ythe sport to improve.
We got a better idea of Billy Joe Saunders the other day as we saw him struggle a little with Spitko while Arnfield and El Maachi had a fairly easy time with him. Relevant matchmaking.
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:19 AM
It's an interesting point Jeff because as you mentioned in your first post, the guy is a very legitimate opponent and is a serious test. The fact that he's not British doesn't change that in my opinion.
I know that the fight was offered to several domestic light heavies in the past few weeks, such as Danny Macintosh, Joey Vegas, Bob Ajisafe but for one reason or another they weren't able to make those fights.
Ovill McKenzie was the opponent they were trying to get earlier this week and that fight also didn't come off.
My way of looking at this fight is that a win here (any win) will see his stock rise much quicker than a win against some of the guys mentioned above.
Also, Anthony has been on Frank ******'s case about stepping up and fighting for titles...well now he's stepping up...
A quick scan on youtube shows the guy is slow and a bit cumbersome with his footwork, but he can certainly bang. He's dangerous.
Ant will keep him on the end of his jab and throw the big shots when the guy gets in range and I think he'll stop him late or win UD.
I'm confident he'll win, but I will be the most nervous I've been at any of his pro fights so far :D
jabjab
10-28-2009, 09:23 AM
as we all know matchmaking in boxing is so annoying. we all know the fights we want to see, but politics and money make fights.
i would love to see Price v Fury, but that wont happenen for a year or so.
also bellew v cleverly, but that wont happen either until it makes money sence. why put two unbeaten light heavyweight stars, managed by the same people in the ring and risk one of them. i think bellew would be to powerfull for clev though.
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:27 AM
It is tough to match him - I'm not saying people are frightened to fight him but for someone like Macintosh, why would he take that fight off the back of getting hammered by Clev?
Light heavy is not a division overflowng with talent domestically and I think it's going to be increasingly difficult to match him with home grown fighters, assuming he wins this Friday???
The Cleverly fight will happen, but unless one of them loses soon, I don't see it happening for 18 months / 2 years...because ****** wants them to be as far along as possible before they meet...
mryeags
10-28-2009, 09:28 AM
i agree it is a pointless matchup and a potential banana skin. but in saying that, i know tony personally and he is very confident of a victory. i watched him and frankie gavin training last night with anthony farnell, and both fighters look in superb shape and condition.
i think tony will stop this guy in the middle rounds.:bbb
Ive seen this guy fight and hes more than useful to be honest ... good luck to Tony but think Tony could go down .. i predict KO in the 5th , Tony loses !
jabjab
10-28-2009, 09:34 AM
Ive seen this guy fight and hes more than useful to be honest ... good luck to Tony but think Tony could go down .. i predict KO in the 5th , Tony loses !
wer have u seen him fight mate? who against?
he is to slow and flat footed for a boxer of bellews class.:bbb
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 09:36 AM
It's an interesting point Jeff because as you mentioned in your first post, the guy is a very legitimate opponent and is a serious test. The fact that he's not British doesn't change that in my opinion.
I know that the fight was offered to several domestic light heavies in the past few weeks, such as Danny Macintosh, Joey Vegas, Bob Ajisafe but for one reason or another they weren't able to make those fights.
Ovill McKenzie was the opponent they were trying to get earlier this week and that fight also didn't come off.
My way of looking at this fight is that a win here (any win) will see his stock rise much quicker than a win against some of the guys mentioned above.
Also, Anthony has been on Frank ******'s case about stepping up and fighting for titles...well now he's stepping up...
A quick scan on youtube shows the guy is slow and a bit cumbersome with his footwork, but he can certainly bang. He's dangerous.
Ant will keep him on the end of his jab and throw the big shots when the guy gets in range and I think he'll stop him late or win UD.
I'm confident he'll win, but I will be the most nervous I've been at any of his pro fights so far :D
:-)
mryeags
10-28-2009, 09:41 AM
Stieglitz earlier this year ... Stielgitz is just off the top rung of fighters at SMW but i thought Velecky put in a reasonable performance ... im suprised Velecky is in with Bellew to be honest as Bellew a natural cruiser whereas Velecky maybe a small cruiser to be honest ....
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:46 AM
He he - jeff I'm steve bellew Anthony's cousin - not Bellos!! :lol: Bellos is about 6 stone lighter than me and about a foot smaller, and I'm better looking :D
I take your point about the domestic name but I still think it's a bit short sighted to suggest that only by fighting British recognised fighters can he enhance his reputation. Maybe amongst the casual fight fan but in the business, this fight will put him on the map quickly I think.
For example, how many of Nathan Cleverly's opponents have gone 10 rounds with a world champion.
I know where you're coming from though...
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:47 AM
By the way Jeff, I'd be delighted to have a pint with you at the fight, don't feel nervous mate!!! :D
jabjab
10-28-2009, 09:48 AM
bellew is making the light heavyweight limit easy, he was on the weight last week in fact, bellew could do super middle at a push, so i would have to disagree on that point.
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 09:49 AM
Ha ha cheers mate. Lol better take that off then :-)
robpalmer135
10-28-2009, 09:50 AM
they were trying to get ovil mcenzie for the commonwelath title. hopefully will happen next year.
robpalmer135
10-28-2009, 09:52 AM
bellew is making the light heavyweight limit easy, he was on the weight last week in fact, bellew could do super middle at a push, so i would have to disagree on that point.
lol i cant see tony every making super middle.
intresting ****** came out this week and said he really rates tony, said he wont put him in with clev as its pointless have the fight for the british when in 2-3 year it will be a world title and sell a stadium. i agree
mryeags
10-28-2009, 09:52 AM
bellew is making the light heavyweight limit easy, he was on the weight last week in fact, bellew could do super middle at a push, so i would have to disagree on that point.
Fair point mate and you know the guys ability to make weight .... I hope Tony wins as a match up with Cleverley down the line would be a superb domestic fight ...
Whats Tonys natural boxing weight ?
robpalmer135
10-28-2009, 09:53 AM
shame we wont see the fight. is it 8 rounds?
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:53 AM
bellew is making the light heavyweight limit easy, he was on the weight last week in fact, bellew could do super middle at a push, so i would have to disagree on that point.
jesus he really would be cranky then. I think it would be tight for him and I wonder what the 7 fewer pounds would do to his power...?
And that would mean he could never have another Nando's...ever :rofl
StevenB
10-28-2009, 09:58 AM
Fair point mate and you know the guys ability to make weight .... I hope Tony wins as a match up with Cleverley down the line would be a superb domestic fight ...
Whats Tonys natural boxing weight ?
I think light heavy is right for himto be honest. In the amateurs he fought at cruiser BUT he didn't live the life like he does now and Arnie has got him into great shape. He's much faster, fitter, stronger and he's not lost any power as a result.
He's bang on 12 7 today
I think 12st would be a struggle for him personally but I could be wrong. He told me in the past that there was no way he could do 12st but that was when he just turned over and he might think differently now with two years of quality training and conditioning behind him.
I can see him moving up to cruiser down the line but he's got much to achieve at this weight first hopefully.
robpalmer135
10-28-2009, 11:45 AM
steven any word on whether the mcenzie commonwelath fight will happen this year or not?
mikey t
10-28-2009, 11:46 AM
Ive seen this guy fight and hes more than useful to be honest ... good luck to Tony but think Tony could go down .. i predict KO in the 5th , Tony loses !
where have you seen him fight
cotto20
10-28-2009, 12:13 PM
bellew is making the light heavyweight limit easy, he was on the weight last week in fact, bellew could do super middle at a push, so i would have to disagree on that point.
No way could bellew make supermiddleweight, if he did he would be very weak with no power, i saw him at heavyweight and since dropping down to lightheavy he has lost power a drop to supermiddleweight all his power would go, he would have to change his nick name:good
cotto20
10-28-2009, 12:16 PM
where have you seen him fight
I have also seen this guy fight, he was on eurosport about 6 months ago, he will be a hard fight for bellew, i take my hat of to tony for takeing this fight, shows he is very serious about his boxing and his career
Body Snatcher
10-28-2009, 12:47 PM
Im really looking forward to this fight! Good luck Tony!
Kevin Maree
10-28-2009, 12:56 PM
All the very best Bomber man!
Top guy and in my top 5 best prospect at the moment, do the buisness big man
I think this is a good fight. 10 rounds with Stieglitz is good form, the German is a solid fighter who has beaten such names as Balzsay and Berrio.
If he can stop him that would be quite impressive.
brown bomber
10-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Any youtubes of this dude?
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Flea Man
10-28-2009, 01:16 PM
good luck to Tony!
GPater11093
10-28-2009, 01:20 PM
protect your right tit and you will do fine
BURNLEYBLUE
10-28-2009, 01:41 PM
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Looks your typical East Euro tough guy. Plodder with tight defence and a dig. Cant see any probs for Tony Bellew. He'll open him up with the jab and make an easy nights work of it. He certainly wont have to go looking for the fella. Good chance to showcase his skills:good
NO MAS
10-28-2009, 01:49 PM
It is another opportunity to get some more rounds in the bank for Tony.
It is an opportunity for him to be able to put into practice what he is working in the Gym on with Arnie.:bbb
It is also an opportunity to get himself on TV and start to make people sit up and listen when they here his name in the future..:happy
I don't think it is a pointless match up, it is all about earning and learning at this stage of his career, although you could argue that you are earning and learning all the time in the paid ranks...:yep
It is pointless whacking everyone out early doors, down the line it is rounds in the bank and developing ring savvy that will enable a fighter to be able to make the transition from fighter to Champion..
I think that Ryan Rhodes showed last weekend, that it was his experience that enabled him to fight Moore at his own game and then lift the bar when required...He had plenty of learning fights, and some of them were defeats too...
You know my view on where Tony Bellew is going to go...I have been posting it on here and other sites from a long time ago...
Good luck Tony...:good
icemax
10-28-2009, 02:21 PM
protect your right tit and you will do fine
:-( If he does that he'll get KTFO...its his left tit he needs to be covering:deal
StevenB
10-28-2009, 03:29 PM
steven any word on whether the mcenzie commonwelath fight will happen this year or not?
Not sure now mate to be honest. I know all this Commonwealth talk came late in the day, they weren't talking about it until Sunday last week. He'd previously been told he had Ajisafe...
I think there is a strong possibility the next fight will be for a title but I don't know any more than you at this stage! He's got this bloke firmly on his mind for now...;)
You going to Liverpool on Fri?
avidlemon
10-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Tony will win a confortable points decision, no ko this time though. As i said previously, not so bad that he is "trusted" to takle on this fight. I like how frank is bringing him along. He has got to be tested at some point, and as someone previously, and correctly pointed out, there isn't a great amount of quality LH in the country at the moment, so looking further afield is a neccesary evil, but one that tony qill continue to cope with
Mazallan
10-28-2009, 03:53 PM
Well at least it is a fight to look forward to.
Tony Bellew
10-28-2009, 04:10 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys, I could never do super middle in my wildest dreams and Im gonna do a number on this guy, I'll be onto big things within 4 months guys.. Hopefully I'll shine Friday.:good
Thanks again guys..;)
cotto20
10-28-2009, 04:19 PM
thanks for all the comments guys, i could never do super middle in my wildest dreams and im gonna do a number on this guy, i'll be onto big things within 4 months guys.. Hopefully i'll shine friday.:good
thanks again guys..;)
tony this is a good fight you do a number on this guy every one will be talking about it, this guy is no mug
cotto20
10-28-2009, 04:20 PM
thanks for all the comments guys, i could never do super middle in my wildest dreams and im gonna do a number on this guy, i'll be onto big things within 4 months guys.. Hopefully i'll shine friday.:good
thanks again guys..;)
who have you sparred for this fight tony?
TommyV
10-28-2009, 05:54 PM
Decent step up and a fight which he can only learn from. Good luck Tony.
robpalmer135
10-28-2009, 05:57 PM
just hope we get to see it tony
achillesthegreat
10-28-2009, 06:02 PM
thanks for all the comments guys, i could never do super middle in my wildest dreams and im gonna do a number on this guy, i'll be onto big things within 4 months guys.. Hopefully i'll shine friday.:good
thanks again guys..;)
fuck him up!
Kid Lucky
10-28-2009, 06:06 PM
Good luck Tony. I see that you're ay No 10 in the Boxing Monthly ratings this month - not sure if you were before but moving in the right direction.
jabjab
10-28-2009, 07:14 PM
Good luck Tony from all at mersey gloves :happy
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si_19
10-28-2009, 07:23 PM
Good luck Tony, Hopefully sky show it
jabjab
10-28-2009, 08:26 PM
The quigley smith press confrence kick off video. the link is below
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Thanks for all the comments guys, I could never do super middle in my wildest dreams and Im gonna do a number on this guy, I'll be onto big things within 4 months guys.. Hopefully I'll shine Friday.:good
Thanks again guys..;)
Good Luck:good
king s
10-28-2009, 09:36 PM
Yeah good luck tony hopefully sky show it the tossers!
cotto20
10-28-2009, 10:00 PM
The quigley smith press confrence kick off video. the link is below
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just watched the press confrence both fighters look like they could be cracking due to all the pressure and dislike for each other,
jabjab
10-28-2009, 10:03 PM
just watched the press confrence both fighters look like they could be cracking due to all the pressure and dislike for each other,
i think it makes it alot more interesting though.:good:bbb
Body Snatcher
10-29-2009, 11:57 AM
Im glad im going, i could imagine sky not showing the fight knowing what they are like, i cant wait!
UndisputedUK
10-29-2009, 02:56 PM
I think its a typically dangerous and pointless Sports Network/ Frank ****** promotions match up.
I have no idea how he will get on because he has no British form and the result will give us little idea of Tony's progress.
15 ko's indicate he can punch a bit so Tony wins no ones' going to care (in terms of value of victory) and if he were to get caught cold or with a butt or something then his career suffers a major setback against an unknown opponent.
These type of matches are pointless. If your going to step him up in class do it against someone with British form not some eastern european who could be great or could be shit- who knows.
Yuri Romanov, Lazlo Bognar, Afif Djelti, Yuri Epifantsev, Andreas Galfi, Lorant Szabo all emerged from nowhere with wins over British fighters who had no clue whether they were going to have a typically easy or unusually tough night.
Stupid Match up. And no one can predict the outcome with any accuracy.
That said Tony Best of luck... :happy:happy
Yeah, you don't want to be facing any unknown punchers in a nothing fight do you.
cotto20
10-29-2009, 03:18 PM
i think it makes it alot more interesting though.:good:bbb
Yeah alot more intresting mate! i think smith takes this one he has more experience as a amature and pro, and is bigger and hits harder
Tony Bellew
10-31-2009, 09:20 AM
Ive seen this guy fight and hes more than useful to be honest ... good luck to Tony but think Tony could go down .. i predict KO in the 5th , Tony loses !
I hope people will take on board that I had a choice of 3 opponents 3 weeks ago and chose this guy, I just hope I get the credit I deserve as I didn't have to fight this guy and was offered a guy with a losing record, I wanted a test and that's why I took Velecky, He was a dangerous fighter BUT I didn't let him get going..:good
Thanks again for the support..;)
saturday_kid
10-31-2009, 09:37 AM
I hope people will take on board that I had a choice of 3 opponents 3 weeks ago and chose this guy, I just hope I get the credit I deserve as I didn't have to fight this guy and was offered a guy with a losing record, I wanted a test and that's why I took Velecky, He was a dangerous fighter BUT I didn't let him get going..:good
Thanks again for the support..;)
Fair play for that Tony!
Smashed it last night mate, great performace (while it lasted lol) :good
NO MAS
10-31-2009, 11:22 AM
I hope people will take on board that I had a choice of 3 opponents 3 weeks ago and chose this guy, I just hope I get the credit I deserve as I didn't have to fight this guy and was offered a guy with a losing record, I wanted a test and that's why I took Velecky, He was a dangerous fighter BUT I didn't let him get going..:good
Thanks again for the support..;)
Another great performance Tony...:good
daveyboy1609
10-31-2009, 11:30 AM
Seen the vid- quality work Tony!! Lovely uppercut to put him down!
mryeags
10-31-2009, 11:35 AM
I hope people will take on board that I had a choice of 3 opponents 3 weeks ago and chose this guy, I just hope I get the credit I deserve as I didn't have to fight this guy and was offered a guy with a losing record, I wanted a test and that's why I took Velecky, He was a dangerous fighter BUT I didn't let him get going..:good
Thanks again for the support..;)
Tony mate ...take my hat off and am eating a slice of humble pie .... excellent .. you have yourself another fan .... now carry on fighting decent opposition ..
Good luck ... :thumbsup
bruno's_chin
10-31-2009, 03:01 PM
Well done Tony mate, looked quality, like you said to take a guy out in 1 who just took Stieglitz 10 rounds in his last fight is impressive, keep it coming :thumbsup
scrap
10-31-2009, 03:06 PM
Noticed He missed with an uppercut Shocking, :yep well done Kid :good
jabjab
11-01-2009, 06:36 PM
Great win for Bellew. This guy looked trim and must have been in training, even thought the fight was at short notice. Velecky weighed in at 176lb, well under the light heavy limit.
Great win for the Bomber. The light heavyweight division is gonna get smashed up!!!:bbb
Shizzle
11-02-2009, 04:21 AM
I must say i did like the moment after the fight where Sky cameras clearly picked up Bellew shouting '15kos my arse!'
Great job fella.
hit me HARDER
11-02-2009, 04:50 AM
"I'm the fucking knock-out kid!"
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