Does anyone here really and seriously think MAB will pull the upset?

[Morrissey]

It is only a yes or no answer.

Regardless if you like MAB or a Pac fan, this fight has all the making of one-sided beating. And why?

MAB is just coming off a close but decisive loss to JMM. Now, if this is a young MAB, and he just comes from a loss, I would favor him to do better in his next fight since he will try to prove something. But MAB versus Pacquaio II is a different story. We should know that.

MAB was already beaten and dominated by Pacquaio four years ago. It was an upset, at that time, but it was never a close fight after the third round. It was a beating and a humiliating one, for that matter. Pacquaio proved to be the better physical fighter.

He is older and has considerably lost a step or two in terms of quickness, which is a big no-no against a fighter named Pacquaio, while the latter is in his prime, arguably.

I can understand if you like MAB but to really pick him base on your fondness of him and his legacy as a great fighter and then basing on that senitmentality, will claim he will still outbox PAc and not seeing the whole picture of the fight is just plain absurd. We know the situation right now, and we have to be clear about it.

I am a fan of Pac, and I am saying MAB will be taken out of the fight within 7 rounds. I am not saying it because I like Pac but I just feel MAB is a spent fighter AND Pac has his numbers.

Now, if we talk about Pac fighting Guzman,then I will slightly favor Pac, and I might even raise Guzman's chances if he beats Soto in their NOvermber face-off. But this will for another thread.

[Morrissey]

Fuck.

Forgot to make it a public poll.:patsch

Is there anyway to make it one? Or it is too late?

Mods, any helpfrom you?:smooch

[compukiller]

Yes:yep

[Morrissey]

Yes:yep

Then prepare to eat some crow and shits for that misguided belief..:yep

[brooklyn1550]

No


(but I'd like him to)

[DanePugilist]

I am a fan of both, but I can't see MAB pull an "upset". The guy is in decline, as I see it.

[jimmie]

Hes still one of the best fighters in the world and his fight with Marquez proved that. He can beat anyone at 130 even Pacquiao if he develops a good gameplan and executes it.

[Haggis McJackass]

He has a chance. Not a great chance, and it depends on whether or not Pac is under par, but he has a chance. If Pac fights well, he'll blow MAB away. If Pac's distractions cause him to not be at his best and MAB has one great effort left, he can tip him over.

:hat

[lenzo]

Its possible, but chances are slimmer this fight than during his last go round. Too many wars will wear him down naturally, but MAB has proven in the past that he can get up for a fight when he sets his mind into tunnelvision.

[Morrissey]

He can certainly pull it off, but WILL he pull it off this time?

[SteveO]

Best of luck, but I don't think he will.

[tays001]

an upset can happen in any fight howerever inthis fight HELL NO. PAC by KO

[tays001]

PAC SMASHES 7 SHADEs OF SHIT out of MAB

[tays001]

you should of made voting public i always make all my polls public

[Morrissey]

you should of made voting public i always make all my polls public

Yup.. We should have seen the people who "disagree" with our point of views and bash them after the fight..:yep j/k

Seriously, can we still make this a public poll?:|

[Amsterdam]

No, this is a worthless fight. Barrera has faded and Pac has improved, Pac also trashed him several years back and nothing will change, nothing about the first bout warranted a rematch.

The fact that 9 people selected 'yes' shows the collective lack of boxing knowledge.

Hilarious enough, when Pac trashes Barrera even easier, then they'll just say he's 'shot', when we knew this already.:nut

[Morrissey]

No, this is a worthless fight. Barrera has faded and Pac has improved, Pac also trashed him several years back and nothing will change, nothing about the first bout warranted a rematch.

The fact that 9 people selected 'yes' shows the collective lack of boxing knowledge.

Hilarious enough, when Pac trashes Barrera even easier, then they'll just say he's 'shot', when we knew this already.:nut

9 people who think MAB WILL pull the upset.

And he is fading, but they still think he will win. How is that for a laugh?

Too bad this is not a public poll.

[kg0208]

I don't think he will. Can't see it.

[achillesthegreat]

MAB is older and PAC improved! However MAB has gained invaluable experience with that age.

MAB has to box, box, box en route to a decision. I fear age and Mexican machismo will see the victory taken from him.

[johnco]

pac has evolved.... into another level. mab is in deep shit now..
may the best man wins...

go pac. ;)

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[knockout]

Barrera>>>>>>>>>>>>:tomb

[chliJs]

i do. and so does my money.

[johnco]

:nut so pac is this continually evolving, unstoppable creature, with new and improved punches every time he fights he comes up with new punches never seen by the world.:lol:
Get The Fuk Outta Here!
let me break it to u my friend pac is a over-hyped 1-dimensional, haymaker throwing fighter with great great stamina and a good chin. thats all there is to it he is easly outboxed and HAS been stopped by lesser opponents.
pac is one of my favorites but all this nuthuggin is pissin me off

where's the nuthuggin moron???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

and unstoppable??? retard you better read straight :nut

[kg0208]

If Pacman doesn't stop MAB, I will be surprised.

[Morrissey]

Atleast based on this result, though limited, there are still who believe this will be competitive.

I am not one of them obviously...

[puga_ni_nana]

Atleast based on this result, though limited, there are still who believe this will be competitive.

I am not one of them obviously...

21-29 seriously thinks that MAB will pull the upset.
that's real respect for barrera's skills.

i am one of them though.

[knockout]

yeah if he poisons his food.

[Morrissey]

21-29 seriously thinks that MAB will pull the upset.
that's real respect for barrera's skills.

i am one of them though.

Respecting him and looking at the current situation he is in right now should be a different thing.

And if you are one of them, it means you really think he will win this fight? If you say yes, then, you see Pac losing this one in an upset.

Do you think that way?

[puga_ni_nana]

Respecting him and looking at the current situation he is in right now should be a different thing.

And if you are one of them, it means you really think he will win this fight? If you say yes, then, you see Pac losing this one in an upset.

Do you think that way?

he have slowed down and is old but the way he fought marquez was still impressive. though i will not give him a 50-50 chance at beating pacquiao, this is boxing and anything could happen especially with barrera's skills coupled with his determination this time.

another is just a conspiracy theory. pacquaio has no other big money fight at 130 and a trilogy with mab sounds good for pacquiao, money-wise.

[mad_takamura]

i do. and so does my money. teach your money to think well. :?

[mad_takamura]

for me no cause i believe in reality: i'm an existentialist..

[knockout]

Barrera should have never took this fight.sure he needs to retire with alot of money.

[puga_ni_nana]

Barrera should have never took this fight.


he wants this fight.

remember that pacquiao is all set on taking on soto if not for the settlement of the GBP-Toprank promotional issue?

[Mind Reader]

sure he needs to retire with alot of money.

It has nothing to do with money, MAB has been haunted by his loss and wants to set things straight.

[Haggis McJackass]

I don't count MAB out. Sure, he's definately post-prime, but he is more skilled than Pac, and he has motivation to burn. He knows that if he pulls this one out of the bag, it is HUGE for his legacy. He has been blitzed by Pac before, but is clearly a mentally strong fighter, so he will leave it all out there this time. Also, he knows Pac's style and I don't think Pac has developed all that much as a fighter. MAB will have trained smart, I am sure. He knows what did him in last time and he will have a plan to avoid that happening again, and he will fight smart. It's just a question of whether he can stick to it every second of every round or not.

His body may just not be up to it anymore, but Pac has had a lot of distractions, and if MAB has one last great effort left in him, and Pac has an off night, it can happen.

That being said, I still think Pacman will take it. However, though I would be surprised if MAB wins, I wouldn't be SHOCKED. I don't think he WILL pull the upset, but I definately think he MIGHT do it.

War Barrera!

Actually, I like both these guys, and I think it's better for boxing if Pacman takes it, so I would be happy for MAB to lose a competitive, hard-fought decision. It would be a nice feel-good result if MAB took a decision, but I would prefer him to be ahead after 8 rounds and then have Pac come on strong, leaving no doubt that Barrera's skills would have taken him to victory if his legs were a bit younger, but avoiding a prime Pac suffering a somewhat embarrassing, momentum-killing defeat to a faded ATG.

:hat

[theunderdog]

I don't count MAB out. Sure, he's definately post-prime, but he is more skilled than Pac, and he has motivation to burn. He knows that if he pulls this one out of the bag, it is HUGE for his legacy. He has been blitzed by Pac before, but is clearly a mentally strong fighter, so he will leave it all out there this time. Also, he knows Pac's style and I don't think Pac has developed all that much as a fighter. MAB will have trained smart, I am sure. He knows what did him in last time and he will have a plan to avoid that happening again, and he will fight smart. It's just a question of whether he can stick to it every second of every round or not.

His body may just not be up to it anymore, but Pac has had a lot of distractions, and if MAB has one last great effort left in him, and Pac has an off night, it can happen.

That being said, I still think Pacman will take it. However, though I would be surprised if MAB wins, I wouldn't be SHOCKED. I don't think he WILL pull the upset, but I definately think he MIGHT do it.

War Barrera!

Actually, I like both these guys, and I think it's better for boxing if Pacman takes it, so I would be happy for MAB to lose a competitive, hard-fought decision. It would be a nice feel-good result if MAB took a decision, but I would prefer him to be ahead after 8 rounds and then have Pac come on strong, leaving no doubt that Barrera's skills would have taken him to victory if his legs were a bit younger, but avoiding a prime Pac suffering a somewhat embarrassing, momentum-killing defeat to a faded ATG.

:hat

i totally disagree that mab is mentally tougher than pac. pac suffered an ugly cut against morales but still managed to put up a fight against him. mab gets beaten up by pac and he uses headbutts and illegal punches to get back, he was beaten by jmm and he punched him after clearly knocking jmm down, which negated his kd and greatly afected his chances in that fight. if mab was mentally tough, he wouldn't have done those things IMO

[Haggis McJackass]

i totally disagree that mab is mentally tougher than pac. pac suffered an ugly cut against morales but still managed to put up a fight against him. mab gets beaten up by pac and he uses headbutts and illegal punches to get back, he was beaten by jmm and he punched him after clearly knocking jmm down, which negated his kd and greatly afected his chances in that fight. if mab was mentally tough, he wouldn't have done those things IMO

I didn't say he was toughER, I just said he was tough. He won't crumble like a Gotota or a Tyson or even a Trinidad. He may get blown out, but he will be going balls to the wall mentally until Pac turns his lights out. MAB wants this one real bad. He will give his all in the ring. The question is whether or not his body can handle the Pac attack.

:hat

[Sister Sledge]

MAB will have to box the smartest fight of his life at this point. I believe he has a chance, but Pac has to have an off night. MAB should do better than the first fight, though, but I'm afraid it won't be enough to pull of the upset.

[Rise Above]

No.

[knockout]

pac by ko :tong

[koko of phil]

I wish MAB would, but I believe his body couldn't pull it anymore.

[knockout]

I wish MAB would, but I believe his body couldn't pull it anymore.Sure he will have his moments.

[knockout]

That's copyright infringement from PATSYS. I hope he sues your ass after Pac gets a thorough ass whoopin'. :yepwhat do you mean?:? copyright?

[chimba]

Its an embarrassing insult to put MAB against PAC. PAC needs fighters that will test him not a 2nd rate fighter that MAB is now. MAB should have had a rematch with JMM instead, would have been a better fight. they're in the same level.

[PepeM]

As much as I would like Barrera to win, I simply cant see it happening....

[chimba]

Be gone with you non-believer, and rot in hell for your sins!! :yep

Go Barrera!:happy

I see you have a only have 50 vcash left...your predictions must be spot on rarely. I repeat MAB is an insult for a fighter of PACS caliber:good PAc needs Soto or Guzman..young guys who are challenges

[chimba]

I have only 50 bucks vCash because I have a few big bets on the line right now. They'll cash out big soon you'll see.;)

Now what did I tell you about going to hell? :yep

BARRRERRRAAAA!!!!!:happy:happy:happy:happy

Why dont you put where your money is and bet your remaining on MAB??

[lefthook31]

Barerra is like Holyfield, just when you think hes down he comes roaring back. I think with Paq, MAB has to realize he is fighting a guy that is far stronger than him. Not smarter but stronger, so he has to fight a perfect technical fight, using a lot of boxing and angles. If he can do that, he has a chance. If he tries to slug with him hes going to get stopped. I give him a chance, but Paquiaou has such a strength advantage over everyone he fights.

[Biggame]

I believe MAB has a great chance, and in fact I'm going w/him this time! MAB is still levels above anyone PAC has fought at 130lbs. 4yrs ago means nothing this fight:nono

[jopez707]

Barrera will pull the upset, I don't think he wants to go out on a loss. I also believe, he has been saving a little bit of himself for this fight. He will need all his years of his world class experience and every ounce of his strength to pull it off. I really think this will be a Barrera-Juarez II type of fight, with Barrera controlling him with his jab and using the ring.

[Guru_Too_You]

JMM won 10 of the 12 rounds he was in the ring with Pacquiao.

Many people feel that Barrera just beat JMM.

So at least he has proven he still has the goods to compete with any 130 pounder and that includes Pacman.

[PH|LLA]

this poll should be public

[standing 8]

I voted no , but would be pleasantly surprised if MAB does end up winning the rematch.

[chimba]

JMM won 10 of the 12 rounds he was in the ring with Pacquiao.

Many people feel that Barrera just beat JMM.

So at least he has proven he still has the goods to compete with any 130 pounder and that includes Pacman.

10 of 12 rounds??? And you might get nominated on the ESB Board??? Gosh we are in trouble:verysad Objectivity isnt one of your stong points obviously. But ESB nominations? Youre just fine..:rofl

[johnco]

10 of 12 rounds??? And you might get nominated on the ESB Board??? Gosh we are in trouble:verysad Objectivity isnt one of your stong points obviously. But ESB nominations? Youre just fine..:rofl


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

thats why any nomination going to him is a crime against humanity :fire

[Ramshall1]

I cant see it happening, but it wouldnt be the biggest upset.

[Morrissey]

JMM won 10 of the 12 rounds he was in the ring with Pacquiao.

Many people feel that Barrera just beat JMM.

So at least he has proven he still has the goods to compete with any 130 pounder and that includes Pacman.

I can not really understand why you were nominated and voted in the committee with that kind of "objective" post.:huh

[Morrissey]

this poll should be public

That's the biggest mistake I've done in this thread. NOt making this a public poll.. Shame on me...

HOw can we diss those who did not see the light after the fight and MAB very convinced he is due for pension plan?:-( :yep

[Lance_Uppercut]

I'm rooting for Barrera, but I can't see the win. Of course, he's pulled out a great fight before, so I can't say he has no chance.

[mad_takamura]

I believe MAB has a great chance, and in fact I'm going w/him this time! MAB is still levels above anyone PAC has fought at 130lbs. 4yrs ago means nothing this fight:nono biggame use your brains..:patsch

[Biggame]

biggame use your brains..:patsch

Believe me, I have!!

[Morrissey]

Avatar bet for this fight anyone here who posted?:think

Let's say 2 months. The loser will sports an avatar and the signature chosen by the winner.

Any one who really believe MAB can pull it off, I hope can also take on this bet... Please stand up and be notice and show your confidence. :hat

Of course, you know I will bet for Pac this time. :lol:

[Morrissey]

Waiting....

[johnco]

Waiting....

they wont do it morrissey..... same old people who ridicule pac but when it comes to backing up their mouth, they turn into faggy :rofl :rofl

[Morrissey]

they wont do it morrissey..... same old people who ridicule pac but when it comes to backing up their mouth, they turn into faggy :rofl :rofl

That's a big shame. 30plus who believed in MAB and no one can even stand up for this fun bet?:huh

[psychopath]

No :-(

[Morrissey]

This is going to be a one sided fight so it's unfair for you pac fans to bully these barrera fans into making a bet.

Barrera is a Mexican't, Marquez is a Mexican... Werd up!

No one is bullying no one here.

I asked if they REALLY and SERIOUSLY think MAB will win here, and some said yes.

Note I did not say CAN win, since obvioulsy, anyone has a chance, but I put WILL there, meaning you see MAB pulling this off and winning the win against Pac. It is like me seeing the fight an easy one for Pac; I see him winning this via a TKO. Hence, I thnk Pac WILL win this. And, apparently, that is the case with them; they think MAB WILL win the rematch.

So, why not have some fun in the process? An avatar bet?:yep

Anyway, they see MAB pulling an upset..:good

[Morrissey]

bump

[knockout]

Hell nah!

[El Bombasto]

when was mab reduced to bum status? of course he has a chance, he's a definite hofer going up against a younger, less experienced boxer who is clearly distracted. i wouldn't put money on it, but i wouldn't be surprised if manny gets a boxing lesson.

[Dorfmeister]

No, Barrera still valiant, still inteligent, but only fighting in spurts near the end of rounds, tryin to steal with late flurries, double, triple hooks or whateva... It's not enough to beat the elite of the junior lightweights - Barrera's hand speed is down and so is his old ferocity, he's turned into a boxer recently but his legs won't get him out of jams anymore, so he's drawn into mid-ring exchanges that are becoming harder with age, he fought cautiously in the Juarez rematch and won the fight but doesn't have the wheels to do the same to Pacquiao - no miracle performances in here, MAB can not pull the upset.

[Thread Stealer]

Pacquiao TKO 10 Barrera

[Michael Vick]

I really want Barrera to win. But my mind is telling me Manny will win. I know Barrera will compete with Manny during the early rounds. But Barrera starts to slow down after about 7th round, and I think he'll be stopped in about the 9th round when Marco is visibly slowed.

[mad_takamura]

Believe me, I have!! how? 4 years and all mab did was defeat fana( who?), dafeat overhyped peden who was defeated by a pinoy journey man, defeated by juarez, run from juarez to a boring decision , and destroyed by jmm! and all those 4 years of clowning around did not matter? :huh

[Morrissey]

how? 4 years and all mab did was defeat fana( who?), dafeat overhyped peden who was defeated by a pinoy journey man, defeated by juarez, run from juarez to a boring decision , and destroyed by jmm! and all those 4 years of clowning around did not matter? :huh

:lol:

that is what i thought also...

[Morrissey]

No, Barrera still valiant, still inteligent, but only fighting in spurts near the end of rounds, tryin to steal with late flurries, double, triple hooks or whateva... It's not enough to beat the elite of the junior lightweights - Barrera's hand speed is down and so is his old ferocity, he's turned into a boxer recently but his legs won't get him out of jams anymore, so he's drawn into mid-ring exchanges that are becoming harder with age, he fought cautiously in the Juarez rematch and won the fight but doesn't have the wheels to do the same to Pacquiao - no miracle performances in here, MAB can not pull the upset.

And against Pac, he can't and won't escape from it. He would be stalked from start to end.

[Sister Sledge]

I love old warriors and underdogs, and MAB is both. My girl is pinoy, so I can't tell her I'd rather see Maro win, but I am an MAB fan. Pac is a beast, but I have more respect for a level-headed fighter like the Baby-Faced Assasin.

[Morrissey]

I can't wait for this easy fight for Pac..

[Kamil]

I can't wait for this easy fight for Pac..


Underdog will pull it off, trust me, gonna be one the biggest up set of our time, keep doubting MAB people, only makes it better

[Morrissey]

Underdog will pull it off, trust me, gonna be one the biggest up set of our time, keep doubting MAB people, only makes it better

Got to be realistic this time, mate.

If MAB won over JMM, I would have given him a good chance here. But he was beaten decisively, so there goes my view..

[Morrissey]

Marco Antonio Barrera will win by knockout late on and the fight will go down as one of the all time greats.

don't say i did not tell you.

This should be laminated and be made as a sticky post...

for our amusement..:yep

[boxbox]

I love old warriors and underdogs, and MAB is both. My girl is pinoy, so I can't tell her I'd rather see Maro win, but I am an MAB fan. Pac is a beast, but I have more respect for a level-headed fighter like the Baby-Faced Assasin.


when you say level headed..is this similar to being a "dirty fighter"?