Slickness, Thy Name is Walcott

[cross_trainer]

I just viewed Walcott-Louis I again on Youtube. Astounding fighter with some truly bizarre rhythm. Also, his punch placement really was random. When most people try to "randomly" throw the left hook or right hand, they are actually throwing in patterns because they never throw several of one type in a row. Walcott DID throw randomly, which kept Louis walking into them thinking, "Nah, he's not going to throw that AGAIN..."

[SuzieQ49]

ha couldnt say it any better, now ya know why i love him. a big time slickster with a terrific punch in both hands......dangerous combination

[SuzieQ49]

maybe later this week ill post something on jersey joe walcott vs ollie tandberg fight......but im pretty drunk right now so i will wait

[McGrain]

Restraint, thy name is SuzieQ49

[Amsterdam]

I just viewed Walcott-Louis I again on Youtube. Astounding fighter with some truly bizarre rhythm. Also, his punch placement really was random. When most people try to "randomly" throw the left hook or right hand, they are actually throwing in patterns because they never throw several of one type in a row. Walcott DID throw randomly, which kept Louis walking into them thinking, "Nah, he's not going to throw that AGAIN..."

There are other theories, but I am very tired.

[Minotauro]

The guy was a crazy talent the way he moved was amazing check this vid watch Walcott at just after 2 minutes it looks like he floating.
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[Quick Cash]

Latterday boxer James Toney is somewhat reminiscent of Jersey Joe the way he would shift his weight by his midriff.

[robert ungurean]

Walcott is without a doubt one of my all time favorites.

[The Kurgan]

Latterday boxer James Toney is somewhat reminiscent of Jersey Joe the way he would shift his weight by his midriff.

True, although Walcott had much better footwork than Toney as well.

[Minotauro]

In order to post a vid, you need to just take the last part of the URL, in this case, the "lpHwjjcupz0" at the end and post it in between the Youtube quotes. Like above.

thanks i fixed it:patsch

[cross_trainer]

There are other theories, but I am very tired.
Other theories of randomness, or of Walcott's skill?

[KTFO]

Walcott's performance against Louis was brilliant. Nevertheless his biggest mistake was to try and slug it out with Louis in the second meeting. Walcott outboxed Louis constantly. He could've won that fight and threw it away.

[brooklyn1550]

Walcott is a beautiful fighter to watch....footwork, quickness, slickness, punching power in both hands.

[China_hand_Joe]

"pacing himself" is more than a slight understatement.

[Zakman]

Walcott is one of my favorites also - an excellent boxer with a very solid punch to boot.

[Maxmomer]

I just saw that fight on Ringside on ESPN Classic. Walcott seemed like he'd be a nightmare for anybody with that weird ass style. That right hand he dropped Louis with was beautiful.

[KTFO]

That right hand he dropped Louis with was beautiful.



Max Schmeling style. Signature move to floor Louis.

[Lostmykeys]

The guy was a crazy talent the way he moved was amazing check this vid watch Walcott at just after 2 minutes it looks like he floating.
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The massive heavybag amuses me.

[doublesuited]

Walcott is no Riddick Bowe.

[cross_trainer]

Walcott is no Riddick Bowe.

For which I'm sure Holyfield is thankful.

[doublesuited]

For which I'm sure Holyfield is thankful.A prime Bowe would've crushed Walcott. Jersey Joe would be dominated from the inside and outside. What good are those stupid dance moves when you're getting your head snapped back every few seconds with some monster uppercuts?

In fact, you might say that Riddick Bowe would've had Arnold "creaming" his pants. :hey

[janitor]

Walcott is a fascinating case.

He is a tremendous talent who was never given the breaks he needed but still won through despite everything. If he and Joe Louis swaped career circumstances then Walcott might have been a dominant champion and Louis might have been another member of the black dynamite crew.

There has never realy been another fighter like Walcott stylisticaly. I cannot think of anybody who I could compare him to.

[cross_trainer]

A prime Bowe would've crushed Walcott. Jersey Joe would be dominated from the inside and outside. What good are those stupid dance moves when you're getting your head snapped back every few seconds with some monster uppercuts?

Avoiding the inside would tend to also avoid the monster uppercuts. I doubt Jersey Joe would fight on the inside with Bowe (an abnormally good inside fighter for his size). Holyfield did seem to have more success against Bowe when he was moving on the outside, so I suspect Walcott's mobility would help him as well.

In any event, I said that HOLYFIELD was grateful. Jersey Joe is the sort of fighter who would be very frustrating for Holy...whereas he proved he could beat Bowe in the second fight by sticking to a sound gameplan.


In fact, you might say that Riddick Bowe would've had Arnold "creaming" his pants. :hey

:yikes

[janitor]

. What good are those stupid dance moves when you're getting your head snapped back every few seconds with some monster uppercuts?


They make it virtualy imposible to snap your head back with monster uppercuts.

[Duodenum]

Walcott is a fascinating case.

He is a tremendous talent who was never given the breaks he needed but still won through despite everything. If he and Joe Louis swaped career circumstances then Walcott might have been a dominant champion and Louis might have been another member of the black dynamite crew.

There has never realy been another fighter like Walcott stylisticaly. I cannot think of anybody who I could compare him to.Well, being an inaugural inductee of the IBHOF (before that honor was so eggregiously demeaned) was certainly an appropriate representation of his stature in boxing's history. And Jersey Joe remains the oldest universally recognized World HW Champion of all time. (Although Foreman broke his linear record, over four decades later.)

[red cobra]

Walcott was a testimony to the selftaught, graduate of the literal school of hard knocks, who pull it together relatively late in his career, and armed with his hard earned bag of tricks, became one of boxing's great wizards. It's a pleasure to watch those fights with Louis, Carles and Marciano to see him strut his stuff with that patented walkaway move, and that shoulder weaving routine of his. That shifty move of his to ring center in round seven against Charles in '51 when he threw that classic sneak left hook is one of my alltime favorite highlights. The way he shifted his body to the left in close prevented Charles from seeing the left coming at him and preparing himself for it. It was a masterpiece. And when it was over, Jersey Joe was moved to tears of joy, repeating over and over "thank God", "thank God", instead of the arrogant gloating and ranting that often accompanies a fighter's triumphs these days. Guys like Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano and Patterson were not only gladiators in a brutal sport, but more importantly, they were sportsmen and the greatest of gentlemen as well. This one of the reasons I tend to hang out, so to speak in the Classic Forum so much, more so than the General Forum, because I'm slowing becoming more and more disgusted and alienated by the rap/hip-hop culture and the accompanying thuggishness in today's boxing scene. It's rampant of course in all sports, but I don't give a damn about other sports, just boxing, and I like the way it was, and the charactar of the sport as well as the participants of this sport's noble past.

[JohnThomas1]

That's a sensational KO by Marciano over Walcott i must add.

[Bummy Davis]

Walcott was a testimony to the selftaught, graduate of the literal school of hard knocks, who pull it together relatively late in his career, and armed with his hard earned bag of tricks, became one of boxing's great wizards. It's a pleasure to watch those fights with Louis, Carles and Marciano to see him strut his stuff with that patented walkaway move, and that shoulder weaving routine of his. That shifty move of his to ring center in round seven against Charles in '51 when he threw that classic sneak left hook is one of my alltime favorite highlights. The way he shifted his body to the left in close prevented Charles from seeing the left coming at him and preparing himself for it. It was a masterpiece. And when it was over, Jersey Joe was moved to tears of joy, repeating over and over "thank God", "thank God", instead of the arrogant gloating and ranting that often accompanies a fighter's triumphs these days. Guys like Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano and Patterson were not only gladiators in a brutal sport, but more importantly, they were sportsmen and the greatest of gentlemen as well. This one of the reasons I tend to hang out, so to speak in the Classic Forum so much, more so than the General Forum, because I'm slowing becoming more and more disgusted and alienated by the rap/hip-hop culture and the accompanying thuggishness in today's boxing scene. It's rampant of course in all sports, but I don't give a damn about other sports, just boxing, and I like the way it was, and the charactar of the sport as well as the participants of this sport's noble past.



Very True and joe was like a Heavyweight Hopkins in regard to age but he could punch like hell and pinpoint a KO, he was my top slickster/puncher

[Marciano Frazier]

The guy was a crazy talent the way he moved was amazing check this vid watch Walcott at just after 2 minutes it looks like he floating.
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[Only registered and activated users can see links] Man, that is frightening. It looks even better up close. I've never seen anyone else who could move quite the way he could.

[Mendoza]

The guy was a crazy talent the way he moved was amazing check this vid watch Walcott at just after 2 minutes it looks like he floating.
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Thanks for the link Minotauro. Walcott was a one of a kind boxer mover. A joy to watch. It does look like Walcott mailed it in vs Marciano in the 2nd fight. IMO, Wlacott could have got up before ten.

[Bummy Davis]

Thanks for the link Minotauro. Walcott was a one of a kind boxer mover. A joy to watch. It does look like Walcott mailed it in vs Marciano in the 2nd fight. IMO, Wlacott could have got up before ten.

That punch reminded him of the first fight and he said to himself this guy keeps coming and he decided that that uppercut was a taste of things to come and the 1st round was enough

[buzzsaw]

Jersey Joe kept his eye on the prize. He never let the losses deter him from his goal in life ...he kept pressing on. His "Jazz" rhythm/tempo style combined with his superior conditioning helped prolong his career. He stayed hungry for the ultimate prize in sport during his day “The Heavyweight Championship of The World.” In 1980 I was presented the first Golden Glove Title I won from none other then Jersey Joe himself, they brought him for Title Night. And all I can tell you is even at 70+ he still looked like he could go!