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ajc1984
06-25-2007, 01:43 AM
I've watched the fight 4 times now, with 4 different commentaries (2 American, 1 British and 1 Spanish) and I can't believe how negative HBO were.

The British commentary was, as you'd expect, highly pro Hatton and full of glowing praise, but you had HBO (who are supposed to be pushing Hatton in the US) at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, with the most unenthusiastic, highly dismissive (of Hatton, Castillo and the fight itself) commentary I've ever heard.

I can't find the British video on youtube, but here's 2 different American ones. You'd never guess it was the latter who are writing Hatton's paychecks:

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In the first video, when the KO punch is landed:

"There's a GOOD LEFT HOOK AND IT PUTS DOWN CASTILLO!!! OH WHAT A BODY SHOT!"

"What a terrific blast!"

"THAT'S IT, HE KNOCKED HIM OUT, A BODY SHOT KNOCKOUT VICTORY FOR RICKY THE HTIMAN HATTON!!!"

"You don't see many fights ended with that! That is as good as it gets!"

etc.

And now HBO:

"This is being ruled a knockdown... and he stays on the canvas and this fight is over."

"I think all of those people who said coming into this fight that Castillo was shot are looking pretty smart right now."

"He looked like a shot fighter from the beginning."

"Not the same guy who fought Coralles."

"Hatton won't get much credit for that victory, because of the way Castillo looked."


Jesus Christ, no wonder most of America are calling Hatton the new Ruiz, that's all HBO were talking about for the entire fight. The whole of the 4th round (up until the KO punch, which they barely commented on - you'd think Castillo had fallen down by himself listening to it) was spent criticising Hatton for excessive holding. For the people who only saw HBO, watch it again with no sound and tell me the fight sucked. I thought the 3rd round was a GOOD, entertaining round of boxing. Castillo was coming into the fight more as it wore on, throwing and landing more shots, and Hatton was throwing some vicious hooks to the body. Yes there was a bit too much clinching but comparing Hatton to Ruiz? There's a difference between jabbing and grabbing your way to a decision victory and physically dominating your opponent, pushing him around the ring and throwing plenty of big punches on the inside.

I really think HBO are doing Hatton's popularity in America no favours at alll with that kind of extremely negative commentary. How about when a good shot is landed you comment on it (preferably with a bit of fucking enthusiasm), rather than talk about how shot Castillo looks, or how much Hatton is clinching? If the job of a commentator is to enhance the enjoyment of a fight, then HBO did a terrible job, because they made a fairly entertaining fight sound like a complete snoozefest. It's really hard to enjoy a fight when the commentators don't stop shit talking it (and both of the fighters involved) for its entire duration.

Honestly I think if the commentators from the first video had done the HBO broadcast instead of Lampley and Kellerman (Steward was a little more positive about the fight and unlike the other 2 - especially Kellerman - seems to actually like Hatton), the reaction to the fight (and Hatton) from American fans wouldn't have been so negative.

Like I said, watch it again with different commentary (or none at all) and tell me it sucked - it was a decent fight and a very good performance (despite what Lampley and Kellerman would have you believe).

CASH_718
06-25-2007, 01:55 AM
It's called telling the truth.

Sai
06-25-2007, 02:01 AM
thats actually a pretty amazing disparity between the 2 videos. Cheers for the links.

CarltonBlues
06-25-2007, 02:01 AM
The first one was Tessatorre, that's the call we got in Australia. He's the same guy who is on the fight night video games.

Brickhaus
06-25-2007, 02:03 AM
HBO's commentary is generally too negative for my tastes. People here complain a lot about Kellerman and Lampley cheerleading for the fighters, but sometimes I find it more difficult to enjoy watching the fight because they're whining about how bad the fight is, and I have to imagine that casual fans often feel the same way, and by extension, are turned off to the sport as a whole.

Jose FM
06-25-2007, 02:06 AM
I think it all boils down to Kellerman being an a$$hole, cause he did not give any credit whatsoever.

Farmboxer
06-25-2007, 02:13 AM
Hatton's punch to the liver was awesome!!!!!!!

Snakefist
06-25-2007, 02:22 AM
The guy has been throw some wars... and he probably was damaged goods. However Hatton should've got the respect he deserved for taking him out in the fashion he did. The body shot should've gained respect alone. But HBO's negativity is actually more truth then fiction, but in many cases they are all just being asshats. They treat Floyd like shit and talk about him, saying he's a good fighter but not a great one and other shit. They talked shit about Roy Jones too, but they give bj's to Oscar, Shane, and Pac. And they'll shit talk Hatton too. Not sure what their deal is sometimes.

Sai
06-25-2007, 02:27 AM
I think they just really like to get behind the underdog to make the fight seem a bit more even than it is in all reality. Im not convinced they go about it the right way though

BoppaZoo
06-25-2007, 02:31 AM
probably damaged goods. he was in a total mismatch.

Hattons shit style made sure of that.

When you have Emanuel Steward saying your style is shit you should think ok something is wrong.
ive wondered why HBO have been negative of late and its because there worried they are getting more low qaulity fights with total mismatch's and boxers saying they are the greatest yet beating up old men.

there starting to realize boxing has become more about money and winning than heart and balls.

maracho
06-25-2007, 02:48 AM
Well Castillo is an icon to many so that played a part but Lampley was wearing the goofy looking Manchester scarf, Steward was dissing Castillo and rooting for Hatton before the fight even started and Joe Cortez of all people seemed biased against Castillo.

I myself have changed my mind about Hatton cause I now believe as others do that he looks his best against the best

Oh and the Hatton HBO 3 fight contract did end last night

Carlos Primera
06-25-2007, 02:53 AM
wow the kellerman was really ripping into hatton. tessatore commentating was good though, just calling the fight without tinted glasses

Rock0052
06-25-2007, 02:55 AM
Good post AJC...it's shocking how much of the fight HBO missed because they were too busy bitching.

The Mad Hatton
06-25-2007, 03:14 AM
Thanks Jose FM, for leading me to this topic.

ajc, I'm glad I'm not the only one that found Joe Tessitore's call much, much better, and HBO's shameful. Tessitore made you think something amazing had happened, and it had. HBO made you think we weren't even watching a worthwhile fight. Shame on the entire HBO crew, and here's to a promotion for Joe.

Taffyy
06-25-2007, 03:56 AM
Nice post Blocky...........

smokey
06-25-2007, 04:29 AM
Telling the truth would be pointing out the amount of savage body shots that Ricky was throwing time and time again. If Castillo was that worried about Ricky clinching - why wasn't he backing off, why was he allowing Ricky to clinch and then push him off.

Hatton nailed Castillo with at least 10 shots in that round alone to the body before the one that did the overall damage... he set it up perfectly and that last shot got him on the mark

Look at Castillo attempt to get up immediately after that punch and look at his leg splay out to the side

This is where being hit in the liver by a good boxer is something only those that have experienced it know.

They did point out the beating Hatton was putting on him throughout the fighter. After one round, Manny said that he didn't think Castillo had a chance due to Hattons speed and accuracy, not usually an attribute the media had given Hatton a lot of credit for.

CASH_718
06-25-2007, 04:31 AM
Manny Steward trains fighters to be boring - jab dominant fighters thus he likes jab dominant fighters

Hatton throws more power shots, especially down low - than almost any other fighter I've seen recently.

Lets be honest here - if Hatton was American, he'd be sacre de celebre.Bullshit Hatton's fucking boring. His fights turn into wrestling matchs.

BoppaZoo
06-25-2007, 04:32 AM
Manny Steward trains fighters to be boring - jab dominant fighters thus he likes jab dominant fighters

Hatton throws more power shots, especially down low - than almost any other fighter I've seen recently.

Lets be honest here - if Hatton was American, he'd be sacre de celebre.so your calling Tommy Hearns boring OK and Ricky Hatton exciting. :lol:

Cruiser1
06-25-2007, 07:35 AM
In Manchester, Hatton was a ball of excitement whose body shots were just outright vicious.

In America, Hatton's been rather boring and seems to wanna hold more than punch.

HBO doesn't need to say anything cuz Hatton's not doing himself any favors with his style. Castillo was NOT initiating those clinches. He was lucky to get the nod against Collazo and he put on a snoozefest against Urango who isn't even in his galaxy. When those are your first two impressions on your new network you've dug yourself a hole. I like Hatton alot. I always have. I just have a feeling that the weight fluctuations inbetween fights have really taken a toll on him and he can no longer fight at a frantic pace like he used to. He controls the fight by jumping in throwing a punch or 2 and then holding. It's like he's recharging his batteries every few minutes with a clinch. I see many subtle differences and I think they are weight-correlated.