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MSTR
09-22-2007, 02:12 AM
For all who have not seen Jamie Pittman in action here is some footage for you. As you will see, very quick, and very hard to hit cleanly.

A very awkward guy to fight, who will be a hard fight for ANYONE right now in the 160 pound division.

I like the way he keeps his hands up, and employs the turtle shell defence in close quarters, which for southpaws is usually extremely effective. I don't think he will ever be an exciting KO artist, but I am thinking if he can be managed correctly, can become a fighter much like Winky Wright, who is VERY hard to win a decision against.

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MSTR
09-22-2007, 08:39 AM
:hi:

ozziebattler
09-22-2007, 09:46 AM
He looks the goods everytime i see him.

Easily to slick for bika..

If managed right we could be seeing a new world champ within the next 3years i think..

Thanks for the footage..Where you filming??

MSTR
09-22-2007, 05:52 PM
He looks the goods everytime i see him.

Easily to slick for bika..

If managed right we could be seeing a new world champ within the next 3years i think..

Thanks for the footage..Where you filming??

Not my footage mate, just some stuff I found on the net.

Pretty interesting though.

He isn't a great finisher, bu he is very awkward and hard to beat.

A lot of times in his fights, guys just go ultra defensive, and he doesn't really let his hands go to get the KO. He still shuts them out though completely, and I can see him doing the same even as he steps his competition up.

doublesuited
09-22-2007, 06:26 PM
Frankly, I'm not impressed at all.

MSTR
09-22-2007, 06:51 PM
Frankly, I'm not impressed at all.

:tired

Decebal
09-22-2007, 07:00 PM
Bika is good, though!:D

MSTR
09-22-2007, 07:15 PM
Bika is good, though!:D

He is good, which is why the sparring is interesting, because frankly Bika looks confused in there.

Pittman fights at a much faster pace in an actual fight obviously, as would Bika. This is far from hard sprring, but still interesting anyway.

Decebal
09-22-2007, 07:16 PM
He is good, which is why the sparring is interesting, because frankly Bika looks confused in there.

Pittman fights at a much faster pace in an actual fight obviously, as would Bika. This is far from hard sprring, but still interesting anyway.

Bika makes my top 10 at SMW, just...does Pittman make yours at MW?

MSTR
09-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Bika makes my top 10 at SMW, just...does Pittman make yours at MW?

Not yet. Too inexperienced. Based on talent though he will be a very tough fight for anyone in the division.

He fights similar to Kessler in that he lives off his one two. And he uses quick foot movement in and out. His speed is probably comparable to Mundine's IMO, in an actual fight when he really lets them go.

He isn't a KO puncher, and isn't the greatest offensive fighter. Most of his fights i have seen, the opponent realises they are well outclassed and then goes into their shell early. He usually then just proceeds to outbox them instead of looking for the KO.

Still, due to his style and southpaw stance, he would give a guy like Sturm fits, provided he can handle a world class pace and his chin holds up.

Decebal
09-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Not yet. Too inexperienced. Based on talent though he will be a very tough fight for anyone in the division.

He fights similar to Kessler in that he lives off his one two. And he uses quick foot movement in and out. His speed is probably comparable to Mundine's IMO, in an actual fight when he really lets them go.

He isn't a KO puncher, and isn't the greatest offensive fighter. Most of his fights i have seen, the opponent realises they are well outclassed and then goes into their shell early. He usually then just proceeds to outbox them instead of looking for the KO.

Still, due to his style and southpaw stance, he would give a guy like Sturm fits, provided he can handle a world class pace and his chin holds up.

:good

boxfan99
09-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Bika makes my top 10 at SMW, just...does Pittman make yours at MW?

Do you mind writing down your top 10? I would like to see it.

Decebal
09-22-2007, 09:05 PM
Do you mind writing down your top 10? I would like to see it.

Top 10 ...according to how good they are right now, rather than resume points or how good they were in their last fight, etc.:

JC
MK
Lucian
Mundine*
Inkin
Lacy*
Andrade
Froch
Berrio
Bika

*once they recover sufficiently from injury to compete fairly, but within the next 3 months or so, not later!

MSTR
09-22-2007, 09:23 PM
Top 10 ...according to how good they are right now, rather than resume points or how good they were in their last fight, etc.:

JC
MK
Lucian
Mundine*
Inkin
Lacy*
Andrade
Froch
Berrio
Bika

*once they recover sufficiently from injury to compete fairly, but within the next 3 months or so, not later!

Pittman is fighting at middleweight, so he won't end up being in the mix with these guys. I think Mundine would beat Bute, I don't rate him that highly. I have yet to see Berrio. Froch looks fairly average, nothing special.

Decebal
09-22-2007, 09:28 PM
Pittman is fighting at middleweight, so he won't end up being in the mix with these guys. I think Mundine would beat Bute, I don't rate him that highly. I have yet to see Berrio. Froch looks fairly average, nothing special.

It is very difficult to rate boxers...I am very confident about my 1-2, and fairly confident that Bute and Mundine belong in the top 4. Inkin, I think, is good enough to be on top of Lacy and Adrade right now, who are better than Froch. Bika is definitely top 10! Berrio, might not be, however...might only make top 12...but he is definitely in the top 12, no doubt about it.

I stand by my selection, but I am aware not just that a very good case could be made for another one, but that I might be way off, in certain cases...but hey...I'm not a good analyst and I might be biased too, without realising it...(I know, for example, that I am biased where Bute is concerned...)

...about Mundine and Bute...I think the first is over the hill, whereas the latter is up and coming...at the beginning of the year Mundine would have beaten Bute...In January next year, the earliest they could meet, Bute would beat Mundine...

boxfan99
09-22-2007, 09:43 PM
Top 10 ...according to how good they are right now, rather than resume points or how good they were in their last fight, etc.:

JC
MK
Lucian
Mundine*
Inkin
Lacy*
Andrade
Froch
Berrio
Bika

*once they recover sufficiently from injury to compete fairly, but within the next 3 months or so, not later!

I can see, that we agree about top 4, though it is a very close call between no.3 and no.4 in my opinion.
Have you ever watched Berrio? I don't think he belongs in the top 10. The only thing he got is a strong punch, which he was lucky to land against Stieglitz in the right fight, and Stieglitz should have seen it coming a mile away.

Decebal
09-23-2007, 05:12 AM
I can see, that we agree about top 4, though it is a very close call between no.3 and no.4 in my opinion.
Have you ever watched Berrio? I don't think he belongs in the top 10. The only thing he got is a strong punch, which he was lucky to land against Stieglitz in the right fight, and Stieglitz should have seen it coming a mile away.

Yeah...as I said...maybe Berrio is not top 10...but he is not outside the top 12 either, I think...maybe I'm overrating him though...there are better people than me to judge that.

Marcus
09-24-2007, 12:46 AM
Pitman looks super fast!! Has he got much pop in his punches MSTR? I cant remember seeing him fight.

MSTR
09-24-2007, 12:49 AM
Pitman looks super fast!! Has he got much pop in his punches MSTR? I cant remember seeing him fight.
No pretty average power. Not feather fisted but not a KO artist.