View Full Version : Who was the most avoided fighter of the 90's?
cotto20
11-01-2009, 12:45 PM
Some fighters who come to mind joes luis lopez, bernard hopkins and ricardo lopez
Addie
11-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Donovan Ruddock was avoided. Juan Manuel Marquez also.
cotto20
11-01-2009, 01:06 PM
Donovan Ruddock was avoided. Juan Manuel Marquez also.
good call with marquez hamed avoided him like crazy
lefthook31
11-01-2009, 04:03 PM
In the heavyweight division certainly Lennox Lewis. His legacy made more money than he did, he missed so many big fights. :lol:
Rattler
11-01-2009, 04:08 PM
James Thunder
lefthook31
11-01-2009, 04:36 PM
James Thunder
:lol::huh
Rattler
11-01-2009, 04:50 PM
:lol::huh
Hey, you laugh... but don't think the top contenders didn't piss their pants after this.
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Sonny Carson
11-01-2009, 04:58 PM
good call with marquez hamed avoided him like crazy
Im no Hamed fan but they avoided each other. Both said no to fight's with each other.
lefthook31
11-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Hey, you laugh... but don't think the top contenders didn't piss their pants after this.
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I remember watching that fight. Grimsley felt pretty good about himself for going the distance with Foreman. This probably brought him back down to reality. I dont know. I enjoyed watching Thunder because of his style, but I dont think he was a fighter too many guys avoided.
ApatheticLeader
11-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Some fighters who come to mind joes luis lopez, bernard hopkins and ricardo lopez
Hopkins and Ricardo Lopez? Are you sure about those?
Ruddock, Marquez, Harry Simon, Winky Wright.
Clinton
11-01-2009, 06:38 PM
Im no Hamed fan but they avoided each other. Both said no to fight's with each other.
After waiting for hamed for 2 years,JMM said no to a quickie contract to be signed just after he lost to-I think,Derrick Gainer-and the fight to take place right away.He also lowballed JMM and there was never any word from the hamed camp concerning JMM afterwards.
cotto20
11-01-2009, 06:48 PM
Hopkins and Ricardo Lopez? Are you sure about those?
Ruddock, Marquez, Harry Simon, Winky Wright.
All the other middleweight champions avoid hopkins, and michael carbijal avoided ricardo
Addie
11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
All the other middleweight champions avoid hopkins, and michael carbijal avoided ricardo
How did Carbajal avoid Lopez? He moved up to Light Flyweight just as Carbajal was on the cuff of retiring. The fight should have happened around 1994.
zadfrak
11-02-2009, 02:25 AM
Nazarov comes to mind.
THEHAMMER321
11-07-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't think fighters avoid other fighters i believe they all have ego's and no matter how good or bad they are still think they can beat any 1 ,I think the managers and trainers may think otherwise but not the fighter
mr. magoo
11-07-2009, 02:21 PM
In the early half of the 90's, Simon Brown was not a guy who most people were pressing to get in the ring with. Tim Witherspoon was also pretty well avoided from about 1989-1996.
PowerPuncher
11-07-2009, 03:04 PM
After waiting for hamed for 2 years,JMM said no to a quickie contract to be signed just after he lost to-I think,Derrick Gainer-and the fight to take place right away.He also lowballed JMM and there was never any word from the hamed camp concerning JMM afterwards.
Hamed didnt avoid Marquez he offered, Marquez should have accepted his big shot but then again with his defense he might well have got smoked, he doesnt have Barreras defensive ability. His cause wasnt helped by losing to Norwood during the period either, anyone else think Norwood is criminally underrated?
JMM had poor management, turning down the Pacquaio rematch and going to fight slick cookie Chris John instead was stupid too.
Nicolai Valuev was avoided in the 90s most of his sparring partners and opps were wrecked.
sugarsean
11-07-2009, 03:25 PM
Lennox Lewis
PowerPuncher
11-07-2009, 04:16 PM
I'll go with:
Herol Bomber GRaham - avoided by Eubank and BEnns management amongst others, would have made a great British title clash. He obviously got his title shot so not completely avoided by a long way
Winky Wright - because he was
Terry Norris - I didnt see Whitaker/Trinidad/Delahoya/Vasquez wanting to get it on with Norris and he never got the super fights in his prime that his talent deserved imo
Jones Jr -allot if talked about Jones 'ducking' people but he was ducked especially early in his career, Eubank turned him down at least twice, DM turned down money to come to the US (although Jones wasnt going to germany either)
Mayweather - earlier in his career a fair few avoided Floyd - not a champ for long in the 90s but he was avoided by a few, Hamed turned down a fight at 128lbs, Mosley supposedly turned down a fight in 1999
Lennox Lewis - obviously - Tyson/Bowe/Moorer/ and arguably Holyfield all avoided him
Dont know if some of those are the best examples to be honest but they have all been avoided to an extent
Beeston Brawler
11-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Herol Graham was avoided, certainly.
Benn, Eubank, Watson and Collins never got in there with him - bearing in mind the fact that most all-British matchups generally happen at some stage, it's shocking.
Imagine none of DLH, Mosley, Trinidad, Mayorga and Forrest steering clear of each other.......
My2Sense
11-07-2009, 09:01 PM
Lennox Lewis - Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Moorer, and Foreman all either shied away from him or just blatantly avoided him.
round15
11-09-2009, 12:56 PM
Donovan Ruddock. Many heavies found reasons not to get into the ring with this guy.
sweet_scientist
11-09-2009, 01:23 PM
Terry Norris - I didnt see Whitaker/Trinidad/Delahoya/Vasquez wanting to get it on with Norris and he never got the super fights in his prime that his talent deserved imo
His talent saw him get Ko'ed by a past prime Simon Brown and a mediocre Keith Mullings. That and him getting DQ'ed a couple times killed the momentum in the latter half of his career. Every time there was talk of a big fight he got trodden. By the way I didn't see Norris campaigning too hard to fight JC Vasquez or any middleweights during his time. He was mighty keen to bust up welterweights though, especially of the past prime variety.
la-califa
11-09-2009, 02:56 PM
Kostya Tszyu= He should have had at least a couple of mega fights in his prime.
cotto20
11-09-2009, 03:34 PM
Kostya Tszyu= He should have had at least a couple of mega fights in his prime.
He was about to get one against oscar de la hoya, but slipped up against philips
Mark Johnson.
He called out Lopez for a 110lb catchweight and never got it. Johnny Tapia avoided him like the plague and a possible big fight with Michael Carbajal never materialised either after Johnson called him out.
My2Sense
11-09-2009, 04:47 PM
Terry Norris - I didnt see Whitaker/Trinidad/Delahoya/Vasquez wanting to get it on with Norris and he never got the super fights in his prime that his talent deserved imo
Actually...
1. Tito and DeLaHoya did want to get it on with Norris, and...
2. Norris blew those and other big fight opportunities by getting KO'd by Brown and Mullings and getting DQ's twice against Santana every time a big fight was on the horizon.
It was Norris who was mainly responsible for costing himself big fights, not the (prospective) opponents.
Rubber Warrior
11-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Nazarov comes to mind.
Not only overlooked and avoided....but conveniently never even mentioned. :good
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