Peter - Rahman at 6 October

[Artani]

Don King wants to keep this date and wants to put his fighter Rahman with Peter. He will aplayed in the monday in the WBC organisation and will get answer for one or two days. Also McCall wants shot but WBC will tell last words in the coming days.

[jimmie]

Intruging fight and not to bad sense the Champ doesnt wanna fight Peter so let the former WBC Champ step in and get his chance.

[brooklyn1550]

Not a bad fight - obviously Oliver McCall, David Tua, and Vladimir Virchis deserve the shot more and would make for better fights, but the bottom line is, if they do chose Rahman to face Peter on the 6th, this fight is better than no fight.

Peter by early KO

[standing 8]

If this fight does indeed happen I'm hoping for a Peter victory.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Rahman hasnt looked in the greatest shape lately I think Peter will destroy him if this does come off.

[Asterion]

Not a bad fight.

[brooklyn1550]

By the way, where did you hear this?

[Zakman]

Peter is going to annihilate the glass-jawed Rahman. This is a "marking time" type fight that adds a recognizable opponent to his ledger, that's all.

[Bubba]

Don King wants to keep this date and wants to put his fighter Rahman with Peter. He will aplayed in the monday in the WBC organisation and will get answer for one or two days. Also McCall wants shot but WBC will tell last words in the coming days.


Hasim Rahman is a Bob Arum fighter.

[DamonD]

It would do, Rahman is still ranked in the top ten by two or three of the boxing orgs...

But he's still not gotten his championship shape back yet.

On the other hand, if Peter was to be out of shape than Rahman might have a chance behind that long jab of his even if he's heavy...thinking Rahman-Tua II here.

Should be Peter by KO though. And I'd rather they went for McCall.

[A-50]

Peter is going to annihilate the glass-jawed Rahman. This is a "marking time" type fight that adds a recognizable opponent to his ledger, that's all.


How many more chances are they going to give Glass Jaw Hasbeen Rahman? Good lord is he a joke.

[Zakman]

How many more chances are they going to give Glass Jaw Hasbeen Rahman? Good lord is he a joke.

He's being brought in to serve as cannon fodder for Peter.

The only real question in this fight is whether Rahman'll get knocked the f*ck right out of the ring again, or if he'll just get knocked out.:lol:

[A-50]

He's being brought in to serve as cannon fodder for Peter.

The only real question in this fight is whether Rahman'll get knocked the f*ck right out of the ring again, or if he'll just get knocked out.:lol:

If this fight happens I seriously do not see Glass Jaw Rahman making it out of the 3rd round. It would be hilarious to see Rahman knocked out for about the 10th time. LOL.

[Max Molyneux]

Peter is going to annihilate the glass-jawed Rahman. This is a "marking time" type fight that adds a recognizable opponent to his ledger, that's all.

Rahman would probably be ahead on the cards before Peter hit him though.:yep

[brooklyn1550]

Rahman would probably be ahead on the cards before Peter hit him though.:yep

Nah, Rahman struggled with Taurus Sykes recently. Peter would probably put too much pressure on him and would be too much to handle. I wouldn't be surprised if this ended in the 1st or 2nd.

[H .]

Hasim Rahman is a Bob Arum fighter.

:yep

[MrSmall]

I think Rahman has been really successful in his boxing career.
No amateur career, nowhere else to go, he's made the best of things, and won the WBC belt twice.
He has a bad jaw, fair enough, but don't ridicule the man.

[Heavyrighthand]

He's being brought in to serve as cannon fodder for Peter.



Regardless of why Rahman is being pressed to get the fight is not important. The fact is that if he gets the fight, he has a chance to win the interim title, and Rahman clearly don't deserve that, period. Also, he most certianly don't deserve it, when you have McCall wanting it, and who is ranked just below Peter, and who has already been promised a WBC titleshot.

F*** King and Rahman. They don't deserve this fight. Give it to someeone who does deserve it;

McCall or Virchis, period. Giving this titleshot to anyone else is wrong.

[Zakman]

Regardless of why Rahman is being pressed to get the fight is not important. The fact is that if he gets the fight, he has a chance to win the interim title, and Rahman clearly don't deserve that, period. Also, he most certianly don't deserve it, when you have McCall wanting it, and who is ranked just below Peter, and who has already been promised a WBC titleshot.

F*** King and Rahman. They don't deserve this fight. Give it to someeone who does deserve it;

McCall or Virchis, period. Giving this titleshot to anyone else is wrong.

Oh, I agree with you on the merits - someone like McCall or Virchis SHOULD get the shot.

But Rahman, with his fragile whiskers, produces some spectacular KOs. Seeing him rendered unconscious again will produce excitement! Will he get starched in the middle of the ring again, or will he get knocked right the hell out of the ring again?? Aren't ya the least bit interested?:huh:D

[box03]

Rahman dont deserve the shot, he got a little rocked against Sykes a couple months back whos a C type fighter at best what do you think a fighter like Peter will do to him.

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

I think Rahman deserves the shot based on that he was the last wbc belt holder.
I also think that some people are over estimating Peter. Yeah, I think that Peter can knock out Rahman, but Peter is a really bad boxer. Really bad. I think Peter's power is VERY overrated as well. It's good, but he has yet to KO anyone that is not a bum. Rahman manged to survive against Tua in thier rematch. Tua is light years ahead of Peter in terms of actually delivering that power shot.
On the flip side, Rahman is on the decline. Peter has a very good chance to KO him.

I think I'd rather see McCall fight Peter. McCall has done more to desrve the shot in recent days, plus his chin is seeminly indestructable.


I'd also like to add that there should be no "interem" fight. Just give the belt to the winner. It's fairly obvious that Maskaev has no interest in defending the title against anyone with a pulse. He's done nothing but postpone since winning that belt. Strip him and do it now.

[Grabonator]

Not a good Situation for rahman at the moment because hes far from his best shape and he cant get in best shape in just 2 weeks. If i would be Rahman i would not make it. Tua is in a much better position to do that, his weight is down and is most definately back in training already for his next fight.

[bigeddie27]

guys i am going to go out on a limb here and say rahman outboxes peter for a 12 round decision. peter showed he can be outboxed (toney - he won the first fight, wlad), rahman has outboxed strong punchers before (look up tua 1 and 2). I just really dont buy into sam peter at all sorry. and i see rahman getting up for this one.

[TheGrimReaper]

rahman is no longer a contender, peter would crush him

[SevenSamurai]

Rahman is over the hill and presents no threat to Peter. It is really just a question of how early we all think Peter will take him out.

Peter deserves an easy match like this, after that coward Maskaev pulled out at such short notice.

[brooklyn1550]

Horrible fight for Peter.

Rahman by 7th round tko.
:patsch
Explain further

[He Hate Me]

At this point Rahman is just a name fighter with no real chance.

[RUSKULL]

I'll be the first to predict a Rahman victory here, just so long as Rahman doesn't come in at an all time high weight for him. He's a far better boxer WITH A FUCKIN' JAB that should be able to keep that "one trick pony" Peter at bay all night long. Bye, bye, Sam Peter by decision or late TKO.

[Cruiser1]

Rahman's best days are behind him. He would be overmatched if he ended up getting the fight. McCall should try to sneak into this fight like he did with Saleta. Iron chin vs. iron chin. What more could u ask for?

[Cruiser1]

I'll be the first to predict a Rahman victory here, just so long as Rahman doesn't come in at an all time high weight for him. He's a far better boxer WITH A FUCKIN' JAB that should be able to keep that "one trick pony" Peter at bay all night long. Bye, bye, Sam Peter by decision or late TKO.

For a Klistchko fan it doesn't make Wlad look too good when u call one of his biggest scalps a one trick pony but then again Klitschko fans aren't exactly the brightest people to begin with. Rahman would be lucky to make it to the 7th or 8th round against Peter.

[brooklyn1550]

Rahman wouldn't have enough firepower to keep Peter off him and he doesn't have the defense to keep Peter from hitting him.

[41fever]

I don't think The Rock has time to get in premier shape against a beast like Peter

[41fever]

I don't think anybody of name recognition will step in on short notice unless they been seriously training, unless its Emmanuel Augustus Heavyweight uncle

[RUSKULL]

For a Klistchko fan it doesn't make Wlad look too good when u call one of his biggest scalps a one trick pony but then again Klitschko fans aren't exactly the brightest people to begin with. Rahman would be lucky to make it to the 7th or 8th round against Peter.

Loser, I don't care what you think of my prediction.

Rahman has a much better resumé than Peter does and he will make Peter look like the amateur he is. Hasim has a very good jab, not on the level of Wlad or Lewis, but it's up there and Peter ain't got shit. He hasn't even KO'd a single top ten opponent....................Jeremy Williams is Peter's best scalp - so fuckin' what?!

BTW, I don't think Peter is one of Wladimir's biggest scalps either......................Byrd, Mercer, Austin & Brock have all achieved more than Peter has to this point.

Yes I said Austin, at least he has a "draw" vs. a current beltholder named Ibragimov. Peter has one questionable win & one def. win vs. a fat former middleweight who has been on roids and should've lost his next fight against a tomato can named Batchelder.

Never heard of him?

Neither did I until he got robbed vs. an old, out-of-shape slob named James Toney.

[brooklyn1550]

Loser, I don't care what you think of my prediction.

Rahman has a much better resumé than Peter does and he will make Peter look like the amateur he is. Hasim has a very good jab, not on the level of Wlad or Lewis, but it's up there and Peter ain't got shit. He hasn't even KO'd a single top ten opponent....................Jeremy Williams is Peter's best scalp - so fuckin' what?!

We can agree that Klitschko or Chagaev beat Peter, but Hasim Rahman, on 2 weeks notice, after struggling a ton with Taurus Sykes - looking slower than Peter, not throwing his jab, getting stunned by Sykes - would probably get KO'd. His chin is not terribly hard to find and Peter is so strong and so determined that he would have a field day with this Rahman. Peter hasn't KO'd a top 20 guy, but there is a first time for everything.

[RUSKULL]

I don't think The Rock has time to get in premier shape against a beast like Peter

"Against a beast like Peter"

You've got to be kidding me...................:rofl Who the fuck has Peter fought?

Rahman has been in against far better competition, Lewis, Tua, Maskaev, Ruiz, etc.

Peter was outclassed & wobbled vs. Wlad and WK had to survive blatant fouls in the form of rabbit punches.....................

[RUSKULL]

We can agree that Klitschko or Chagaev beat Peter, but Hasim Rahman, on 2 weeks notice, after struggling a ton with Taurus Sykes - looking slower than Peter, not throwing his jab, getting stunned by Sykes - would probably get KO'd. His chin is not terribly hard to find and Peter is so strong and so determined that he would have a field day with this Rahman. Peter hasn't KO'd a top 20 guy, but there is a first time for everything.

I did say that Rahman had to be in shape, which is never a given when you're talking about Rahman.

[brooklyn1550]

I did say that Rahman had to be in shape, which is never a given when you're talking about Rahman.

:good

Never a given for either guy, but Peter is probably in the better shape of the two

[RUSKULL]

Uh, look up above your post. I already beat you to it pal.

:rofl

Let me be the second to pick Rahman then, just as long as he's remotely in shape. I'm just not sold on Peter, in case you haven't noticed................

[RUSKULL]

:good

Never a given for either guy, but Peter is probably in the better shape of the two

From the recent workout pics I've seen Peter looks like he's trainig to fight against the Pilsbury Dough Boy.....................

[Cruiser1]

Loser, I don't care what you think of my prediction.

Rahman has a much better resumé than Peter does and he will make Peter look like the amateur he is. Hasim has a very good jab, not on the level of Wlad or Lewis, but it's up there and Peter ain't got shit. He hasn't even KO'd a single top ten opponent....................Jeremy Williams is Peter's best scalp - so fuckin' what?!

BTW, I don't think Peter is one of Wladimir's biggest scalps either......................Byrd, Mercer, Austin & Brock have all achieved more than Peter has to this point.

Yes I said Austin, at least he has a "draw" vs. a current beltholder named Ibragimov. Peter has one questionable win & one def. win vs. a fat former middleweight who has been on roids and should've lost his next fight against a tomato can named Batchelder.

Never heard of him?

Neither did I until he got robbed vs. an old, out-of-shape slob named James Toney.

6,661 posts on this site. Time for a hobby. Say what you want about Sam Peter but the truth is that Maskaev wasn't gonna beat him and Rahman won't either. McCall or Virchis would be much better opponents right now.

[RUSKULL]

6,661 posts on this site. Time for a hobby.

I had another 2500 or so before the big crash, if you can believe that!
:lol:

I have lots of hobbies, I have a wife & son, I'm working on another baby, I have a house, a great job, I collect Matt Kenseth & Jimmie Johnson diecast cars & I post on here as well as a couple of other boxing sites....................

Life is good. :good

[brooklyn1550]

From the recent workout pics I've seen Peter looks like he's trainig to fight against the Pilsbury Dough Boy.....................

Peter is probably 255-260 - 10 pounds too much. Rahman, however, is in his 250s as well and looks like he doesn't have much left in the tank.

[RUSKULL]

6,661 posts on this site. Time for a hobby. Say what you want about Sam Peter but the truth is that Maskaev wasn't gonna beat him and Rahman won't either. McCall or Virchis would be much better opponents right now.

I would rather see Virchis vs. Peter or McCall vs. Peter but Rahman has a good chance if he takes it seriously enough.

[brooklyn1550]

6,661 posts on this site. Time for a hobby.
6,661 posts:patsch

You're right, anybody with that many posts needs to get a hobby:D

[RUSKULL]

Peter is probably 255-260 - 10 pounds too much. Rahman, however, is in his 250s as well and looks like he doesn't have much left in the tank.

That's true but it was enough to beat Toney when they fought IMO at least. Who did you have winning that fight?

[Cruiser1]

I would rather see Virchis vs. Peter or McCall vs. Peter but Rahman has a good chance if he takes it seriously enough.

I would love to see McCall get the fight. That's a fan's fight. You got two guys who can bang and take a punch. It just doesn't get much better than that.

[RUSKULL]

6,661 posts:patsch

You're right, anybody with that many posts needs to get a hobby:D

:rofl Welcome to the club. :deal :thumbsup

[brooklyn1550]

RUSKULL, let me ask you this:

Do you expect the show to go on come October 6th?

[brooklyn1550]

That's true but it was enough to beat Toney when they fought IMO at least. Who did you have winning that fight?

Very close fight, I've re-scored it twice and I think I had it 114-113 Toney one time and 114-113 Peter.

7-5 either way is a good score I think. A draw would be good too, but with the point deduction for Peter, Toney wins in that scenario.

[RUSKULL]

I would love to see McCall get the fight. That's a fan's fight. You got two guys who can bang and take a punch. It just doesn't get much better than that.

He's my second favorite choice right now, behind Virchis only because Virchis hasn't had a shot at a real title yet. Tua would be about equal with McCall IMO...................I'd be happy with any of those 3.

[RUSKULL]

RUSKULL, let me ask you this:

Do you expect the show to go on come October 6th?

Yes.

I hope so anyway, I want Virchis, Tua, McCall or Rahman to put Peter into perspective in the HW picture.

[Cruiser1]

Very close fight, I've re-scored it twice and I think I had it 114-113 Toney one time and 114-113 Peter. 7-5 either way is a good score I think. A draw would be good too, but with the point deduction for Peter, Toney wins in that scenario.

I thought the fight could have gone either way. The scorecards were a little wide but the premise was correct. Fights like those are hard to score. Gun to my head I'd say Toney nicked it cuz of the point deduction but other than that it was close. Not the robbery many claim it was.

[brooklyn1550]

Not the robbery many claim it was.

Exactly, a close competitive fight in which neither guy really clearly showed they were the better man.

[Cruiser1]

Say what you want about King but he knows how to handle these situations. He gave us a competitive fight by throwing Touch of Sleep in with McCline and I'm sure he'll come through with this one too.

[the_what]

I can see Rahman outboxing Peter if Rahman has anything left.

[RUSKULL]

Very close fight, I've re-scored it twice and I think I had it 114-113 Toney one time and 114-113 Peter.

7-5 either way is a good score I think. A draw would be good too, but with the point deduction for Peter, Toney wins in that scenario.

I meant Rahman vs. Toney.........:D

[RUSKULL]

I can see Rahman outboxing Peter if Rahman has anything left.

That's all I'm saying, I didn't claim that Rahman was gonna KO peter or anything, just that he'd probably decision him.

[Slothrop]

Rahman is making absolutely certain that he will retire with brain damage.

[brooklyn1550]

I meant Rahman vs. Toney.........:D

:lol: Sorry about that...

I had Rahman winning (I forget whether it was 8-4 or 7-5, but I thought he won the fight)

[box03]

As far as Peter fouling Wlad if you watch all 3 knockdowns Wlad started to panic and put his down and tried clinch, anybody that has boxed before will tell you never turn your back in a fight and if you do thats your problem. Besides the one were Wlad fell of the ropes to his knees wasnt a rabbit punch, yeah I guess you think it was unfair when Joe Frazier turned his back against Foreman and got hit in the back of the head?

[Scar]

Very good fight but is Rahman ready for a fight like this?, he's going to get knocked out in my opinion and brutally.

[Scar]

you must have very low expectations.

You think Rahman will win it?

[Scar]

peter will outhug him.

With Rahman's defense a knockout is nearly guaranteed here, Rahman WILL exhange at some points and the more he does it the more he gets dazed till the KO comes. Might be wrong though, we'll see.

[BoxingGuru]

This better not happen or I'll quit watching boxing. What a fucking joke.

[RUSKULL]

:lol: Sorry about that...

I had Rahman winning (I forget whether it was 8-4 or 7-5, but I thought he won the fight)

Me too, and that was a better version of Toney than either version that fought Peter IMO. I believe losing to Rahman was what put Toney's better days behind him.

[Ambition_Def]

Rahman is far too orthodox and slow and plodding to give Peter any kind of fight.

This will be Rahman on his back again after maybe 4-5 rounds. No different than Maskaev.

[RUSKULL]

Very good fight but is Rahman ready for a fight like this?, he's going to get knocked out in my opinion and brutally.

That's why I said an in-shape focused version of Rahman, he does have many faces as you know.

[Blacc Jesus]

Peter is going to annihilate the glass-jawed Rahman. This is a "marking time" type fight that adds a recognizable opponent to his ledger, that's all.
I gotta agree with the homie Zakman again.

[Antsu]

Loser, I don't care what you think of my prediction.

Rahman has a much better resumé than Peter does and he will make Peter look like the amateur he is. Hasim has a very good jab, not on the level of Wlad or Lewis, but it's up there and Peter ain't got shit. He hasn't even KO'd a single top ten opponent....................Jeremy Williams is Peter's best scalp - so fuckin' what?!

BTW, I don't think Peter is one of Wladimir's biggest scalps either......................Byrd, Mercer, Austin & Brock have all achieved more than Peter has to this point.

Yes I said Austin, at least he has a "draw" vs. a current beltholder named Ibragimov. Peter has one questionable win & one def. win vs. a fat former middleweight who has been on roids and should've lost his next fight against a tomato can named Batchelder.

Never heard of him?

Neither did I until he got robbed vs. an old, out-of-shape slob named James Toney. Batchelder wasnt robbed. Toney won that fight fair. I bet you haven’t even seen that fight :deal

[Zakman]

6,661 posts:patsch

You're right, anybody with that many posts needs to get a hobby:D

Only 6000?? You guys are just ESB dabblers!!:lol:

[DamonD]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - anyone with 6000-odd posts is a complete raving maniac and should be utterly ignored round this place.

[Heavyrighthand]

I think Rahman will probably outbox the wild swinging, limited plodder, Sammy Peter.

Call me crazy, but if Rahman manages to get his fight (which he don't deserve), I think he'll re-aquire his WBC title that Oleg took from him............

And then that means we'll finally get to see Vitali Klitschko vs. Hassim Rahman sometime next year.

Two contingencies have to be met for VK vs. Rahman to finally happen.................

1. Rahman getting this Peter fight, which may happen....50/50 (King and Arum are very influential with this kind of undeserved fight thing)

2. Rahman beating Peter, which will probably happen........70/30

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[El Bombasto]

although i think sam peter is just a notch above absolute garbage, rahman is not going to beat this guy with just two weeks notice.

[Heavyrighthand]

sam peter is just a notch above absolute garbage,.

Hey, now! :twisted:

That's the second coming of Mike Tyson you are talking about!!!!! :twisted:

[AJAX]

Sam Peter lasted 12 rounds with Wlad, so he's far above complete garbage, I just want to see him in there with a good contender......besides toney

[brooklyn1550]

I think Rahman will probably outbox the wild swinging, limited plodder, Sammy Peter.

Call me crazy, but if Rahman manages to get his fight (which he don't deserve), I think he'll re-aquire his WBC title that Oleg took from him............

And then that means we'll finally get to see Vitali Klitschko vs. Hassim Rahman sometime next year.

Two contingencies have to be met for VK vs. Rahman to finally happen.................

1. Rahman getting this Peter fight, which may happen....50/50 (King and Arum are very influential with this kind of undeserved fight thing)

2. Rahman beating Peter, which will probably happen........70/30

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You really underestimate Samuel Peter. Have you seen Rahman lately? Once you factor in everything, you have to give Peter a huge shot a KOing Rahman.

[Ambition_Def]

You really underestimate Samuel Peter. Have you seen Rahman lately? Once you factor in everything, you have to give Peter a huge shot a KOing Rahman.

He doesn't underestimate him, he hates him. Along with many other Vitali Klitschko fans on this board. Sammy was the wrench in the plans. :hey

[brooklyn1550]

He doesn't underestimate him, he hates him. Along with many other Vitali Klitschko fans on this board. Sammy was the wrench in the plans. :hey

You make a good point:think

[Martini643]

oh god no please no, I cant stand to see rahman in another title fight