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tampa
09-22-2007, 06:51 PM
my vote cotto.

just because it seems the best p4p boxer pbf doesnt seem interested in fighting him. and why would you. when you do fight him you come out pretty fucked up.


whats your thoughts?

Napoleon
09-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I would stay Wlad Klitschko.

brooklyn1550
09-22-2007, 06:52 PM
Miguel Cotto

jonesjrp4p1
09-22-2007, 06:53 PM
my vote would be antonio margarito.........j/k


prolly cotto

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 06:55 PM
Cotto's my vote.

Irländsk
09-22-2007, 06:57 PM
I will also say Wlad Klitschko, not only can he he defeat every HW out there, he can make them look amateur in the process, the other 'champs' don't even mention his name when discussing fight possibilities.

tampa
09-22-2007, 06:59 PM
Cory Spinks. And i´m serious, nobody wants to fight him.

is he feared though?

tampa
09-22-2007, 07:00 PM
wlad you might be right. but cotto looks more like a MONSTER.

brooklyn1550
09-22-2007, 07:01 PM
is he feared though?

I'd say Spinks is feared based on his ability to make guys look bad. He doesn't destroy guys, but he can make it impossible to have a great performance.

Dr Gonzo
09-22-2007, 07:02 PM
Cotto

tampa
09-22-2007, 07:05 PM
spinkjs remiinds me of pbf skill wise,. but mayweather talks a lot of shit just to get his name out there.

so i see where you are commming from.

brooklyn1550
09-22-2007, 07:07 PM
spinkjs remiinds me of pbf skill wise,. but mayweather talks a lot of shit just to get his name out there.

so i see where you are commming from.

Mayweather is better skill-wise. He can stand in front of you, make you miss, and make you pay. He is faster, more explosive, has a greater variety of punches, has a better defense, is a better counterpuncher, and has the better resume.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 07:09 PM
Cotto. That is b/c no matter who fights him..You are coming out of there looking like you been in a fight. No smooth sailing with that guy by anyone.

tampa
09-22-2007, 07:11 PM
k sorry. my bad calm down . i meant his style of fighting. you happy now.

tampa
09-22-2007, 07:12 PM
i still like cotto.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 07:19 PM
Wladimir Klitschko. I can understand about Spinks being the most avoided fighter due to his ability to make guys look bad, but even though he might beat a lot of guys he isnt feared.

Wladimir right now can pretty much demolish very other heavyweight in the division and every guy knows it. They all know they would be fighting an uphill battle against him and that their odds of getting knocked on their ass and taking lots of punishment are pretty high. He still is never mentioned as a possible opponent by any of the other beltholders or anyone in the Top 20. They all know they would lose against him

OK whatever..everybody other then Sam Peter. That made him run and grab and hold for dear life in the middle of the ring..Please dont hit me....lol

Napoleon
09-22-2007, 07:23 PM
OK whatever..everybody other then Sam Peter. That made him run and grab and hold for dear life in the middle of the ring..Please dont hit me....lol

In my opinion Klitschko was still getting his confidence back, and didn't want to lost it all over again. He was just being careful. In my opinion in they fought again Wlad would outbox him at least 10 rounds to 2 if he doesn't knock him out.

Cruiser1
09-22-2007, 07:26 PM
None of these guys are a prime Mike Tyson who was genuinely feared. Everybody's weaknesses takes away from the fear factor. I can tell u who I wouldn't want to fight and that's Samuel Peter.

allenko1
09-22-2007, 07:33 PM
Can't go wrong with Cotto, but also Pacquiao, Humberto Soto........I don't know if many heavyweights want to get with Tony Thompson right now even.

hellblazer
09-22-2007, 07:41 PM
Miguel Cotto
Casamayor

hmi
09-22-2007, 07:43 PM
I'd go with Chris John. No one wants to fight him in Indonesia. :D

Vantage_West
09-22-2007, 07:44 PM
Cory Spinks. And i´m serious, nobody wants to fight him.i understand that totally a puncher or slugger like cotto at least has been hurt by weak punchers and been outboxed spinks as boring as he is is hard to hit and out box...more people should given jermain taylor a hell of a lot more credit for facing spinks.

Relentless
09-22-2007, 07:44 PM
miguel cotto - obvious reasons

paul williams - i've read an article in another boxing site where he's management say they cant get alot of the fights they want because no one wants to fight a tall rangy southpaw who throws hundreds of punches.

humberto soto - because of the early loses in his career no one is giving him a chance, fighting him also isn't very pretty.

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 07:46 PM
OK whatever..everybody other then Sam Peter. That made him run and grab and hold for dear life in the middle of the ring..Please dont hit me....lol
But still got the UD. Clear and obvious win for Klitschko, i see your "Mayweather run for your life, but its called boxing" criteria doesnt apply to anyone but him. Klitschko outboxed him, and hurt him real bad last round. If they fought today Klitschko would knock him out.

Relentless
09-22-2007, 07:46 PM
i understand that totally a puncher or slugger like cotto at least has been hurt by weak punchers and been outboxed spinks as boring as he is is hard to hit and out box...more people should given jermain taylor a hell of a lot more credit for facing spinks.

i dont understand what you are saying but if you are saying cotto is a slugger, you obviously have not seen many of his fights.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 07:49 PM
i dont understand what you are saying but if you are saying cotto is a slugger, you obviously have not seen many of his fights.

I have to agree with you...that guy does not know crap about Cotto he is far from a brawler. Margarito is a brawler.:patsch

allenko1
09-22-2007, 07:49 PM
His last fight was a good stoppage and he's one the guys to watch even at his age. Vs Sultan is a pick'em to me, if he could take Chagaev's punch that would be a real fight, same with Peter although would favor Sam too. Klitschko would really be uphill for him but let's see it.

Vantage_West
09-22-2007, 07:50 PM
but to be honest one fighter that nobody wants to face is casamayor.
casa is lineal and champion espirte and in that wasnt beaten convincingly ever.
hard to win against and diego (who i felt had the best showing against him) looked vulnarable against him.great left hand a smacking jab and left hook.

the whole reason why he lost his titles was becuase he wanted to fight the other champions and the wbc were just like...no no no wbc is the one and only belt for sale....

this man is dodged.

and is a hall of famer at least.


joel 'el cepillo' casamayor

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 07:51 PM
But still got the UD. Clear and obvious win for Klitschko, i see your "Mayweather run for your life, but its called boxing" criteria doesnt apply to anyone but him. Klitschko outboxed him, and hurt him real bad last round. If they fought today Klitschko would knock him out.

Its different turning your back and running behind a referee like a bitch and clinching compulsively more then 200 times in a fight and after you land a punch the same one two. Just so the other guy wouldnt whoop your ass. The referee had to pry the scared as Wlad off of Peter a million times. Wlad is a bitch. When Peter walked through his punches he got scared and just wanted peter to go away I guess.

allenko1
09-22-2007, 07:52 PM
but to be honest one fighter that nobody wants to face is casamayor.
casa is lineal and champion espirte and in that wasnt beaten convincingly ever.
hard to win against and diego (who i felt had the best showing against him) looked vulnarable against him.great left hand a smacking jab and left hook.

the whole reason why he lost his titles was becuase he wanted to fight the other champions and the wbc were just like...no no no wbc is the one and only belt for sale....

this man is dodged.

and is a hall of famer at least.


joel 'el cepillo' casamayor

I think Casamayor would have a hard time with the young lightweights. This fight with Santa Cruz coming up will tell alot about what he has left.

Vantage_West
09-22-2007, 07:52 PM
i dont understand what you are saying but if you are saying cotto is a slugger, you obviously have not seen many of his fights.i think your trying to be cheeky :roll:

cotto is a slugger he is in there to stop the man infront of him..he aint boxing him he aint on the inside he is dropping big left hooks to the body thats a slugger when he makes a fight of it.

a puncher is a man who looks for the ko which cotto doesnt he waits till the later rounds.

does that make more sense:huh

im a rubbish poster all my thoughts seem to come at once and not make sense.:patsch

Relentless
09-22-2007, 07:56 PM
i think your trying to be cheeky :roll:

cotto is a slugger he is in there to stop the man infront of him..he aint boxing him he aint on the inside he is dropping big left hooks to the body thats a slugger when he makes a fight of it.

a puncher is a man who looks for the ko which cotto doesnt he waits till the later rounds.

does that make more sense:huh

im a rubbish poster all my thoughts seem to come at once and not make sense.:patsch

not really, like he says, he doesn't go in there to knock his oponents out, he goes in there to win a 12 round fight, if his oponent cant make it then thats it.

you think this is slugging?

-vBCPXg23AI

nervousxtian
09-22-2007, 08:05 PM
I don't think guys are scared of Cotto. Nobody is ducking Cotto. They probably should, and Mosley and Judah both should of ducked Cotto, but they didn't.. he's just not feared yet.

I still think most guys don't want a piece of Sam Peter. I don't think Wlad wants Peter in the ring again either.

Otherwise, there's not many guys scared of anyone out there right now, there's just not that dominating unbeatable one punch KO guy out there right now.

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Its different turning your back and running behind a referee like a bitch and clinching compulsively more then 200 times in a fight and after you land a punch the same one two. Just so the other guy wouldnt whoop your ass. The referee had to pry the scared as Wlad off of Peter a million times. Wlad is a bitch. When Peter walked through his punches he got scared and just wanted peter to go away I guess.
Haha, yeah ok, when a 230lbs+ puncher is looking to knock your head off and stand there and fight you tell me whose the bitch...

allenko1
09-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Haha, yeah ok, when a 230lbs+ puncher is looking to knock your head off and stand there and fight you tell me whose the bitch...

:lol:

Relentless
09-22-2007, 08:10 PM
I don't think guys are scared of Cotto. Nobody is ducking Cotto. They probably should, and Mosley and Judah both should of ducked Cotto, but they didn't.. he's just not feared yet.

I still think most guys don't want a piece of Sam Peter. I don't think Wlad wants Peter in the ring again either.

Otherwise, there's not many guys scared of anyone out there right now, there's just not that dominating unbeatable one punch KO guy out there right now.

a guy that goes 2 weight divisions up to fight oscar de la hoya then goes up another to have 2 fights with winky wright will not be intimidated by anyone.

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 08:12 PM
I don't think guys are scared of Cotto. Nobody is ducking Cotto. They probably should, and Mosley and Judah both should of ducked Cotto, but they didn't.. he's just not feared yet.

I still think most guys don't want a piece of Sam Peter. I don't think Wlad wants Peter in the ring again either.

Otherwise, there's not many guys scared of anyone out there right now, there's just not that dominating unbeatable one punch KO guy out there right now.
Haha, yeah right buddy. You should do more research before you start making such inacurrate statements.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Haha, yeah ok, when a 230lbs+ puncher is looking to knock your head off and stand there and fight you tell me whose the bitch...

Its boxing.thats what defense is for...But when you are a 6 3 or 6 4 guy weighing more then 230 around 250 like Wlad and you are a trained boxer. There is no excuse to run behind a referee. That is a bitch...in boxing at least. Did james toney run...he was 230, 200 of that fat a grisle. GO the fuck ahead oscarsexual and your little Klitite fans too. Bitch ass excuse makers.

kirk
09-22-2007, 08:23 PM
Cotto i guess is an ok pick but honestly.... i dont think many, especially at 147lbs... are scared of him.

Mayorga wants to fight him
Margarito wants to fight him
Shane was HAPPY to fight him


for gods sake judah wants a REMATCH... lol...
malignaggi wants a REMATCH

though cotto is a beast, and messes people up.... for some reason i really dont think he is FEARED.


my vote goes for klitschko, and maybe pac? i suppose there arent a lot of people that scared of pac eather but it has to rattle his opponents a LITTLE when staring at him across the ring.

Alo2006
09-22-2007, 08:27 PM
Cotto i guess is an ok pick but honestly.... i dont think many, especially at 147lbs... are scared of him.

Mayorga wants to fight him
Margarito wants to fight him
Shane was HAPPY to fight him


for gods sake judah wants a REMATCH... lol...

though cotto is a beast, and messes people up.... for some reason i really dont think he is FEARED.


my vote goes for klitschko, and maybe pac? i suppose there arent a lot of people that scared of pac eather but it has to rattle his opponents a LITTLE when staring at him across the ring.

I agree 100 % :good

ThePlugInBabies
09-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Its boxing.thats what defense is for...But when you are a 6 3 or 6 4 guy weighing more then 230 around 250 like Wlad and you are a trained boxer. There is no excuse to run behind a referee. That is a bitch...in boxing at least. Did james toney run...he was 230, 200 of that fat a grisle. GO the fuck ahead oscarsexual and your little Klitite fans too. Bitch ass excuse makers.

wlad UD peter.

deal with it fuckpuppet, even with all of sam's rabbit punching he couldn't put wlad away, and this is a wlad who was tentative and trying to forge his way back into the heavyweight division. todays wlad would make mincemeat of that overrated piece of shit.

JimboDs
09-22-2007, 09:16 PM
Rare is the fighter that is truly feared by other professionals. I don't think there are any on the scene right now.

If by 'feared' you mean avoided, Wvlad and Paul Williams.

Boxing is a business. Cotto isn't avoided because there's big money if you fight him.

The fighters you avoid are the ones that can beat you convincingly or make you look bad and don't represent a big pay day (i.e. not much to gain, but a lot to lose).

Even though hardcore boxing fans know that Wlad is the best proven heavyweight right know, the casual fan is completely and utterly confused by the state of the heavyweight division. Plus, Wlad is boring. As a result, a fight with Wlad means a mediocre payday and a likely ass-whooping.

Paul Williams isn't a big enough name among casual fans yet and his style represents serious problems for most fighters.

kg0208
09-22-2007, 09:31 PM
Rare is the fighter that is truly feared by other professionals. I don't think there are any on the scene right now.

If by 'feared' you mean avoided, Wvlad and Paul Williams.

Boxing is a business. Cotto isn't avoided because there's big money if you fight him.

The fighters you avoid are the ones that can beat you convincingly or make you look bad and don't represent a big pay day (i.e. not much to gain, but a lot to lose).

Even though hardcore boxing fans know that Wlad is the best proven heavyweight right know, the casual fan is completely and utterly confused by the state of the heavyweight division. Plus, Wlad is boring. As a result, a fight with Wlad means a mediocre payday and a likely ass-whooping.

Paul Williams isn't a big enough name among casual fans yet and his style represents serious problems for most fighters.

Wow....great post. Welcome to the board BTW.

brooklyn1550
09-22-2007, 09:32 PM
Great call with Paul Williams

Sheehan
09-22-2007, 09:49 PM
thing is cotto has been hurt so a good finisher with accuracy and good power can maybe do the job, my vote goes to Paul Williams.

Sheehan
09-22-2007, 09:52 PM
I have to go with DLH after those pics of him have surfaced who's gonna want to fight him?

:lol:

kukoy
09-22-2007, 09:53 PM
my vote cotto.

just because it seems the best p4p boxer pbf doesnt seem interested in fighting him. and why would you. when you do fight him you come out pretty fucked up.


whats your thoughts?

I have to say Cotto. No guy ever want to be hit in the groin :nut EVER.

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 09:56 PM
Its boxing.thats what defense is for...But when you are a 6 3 or 6 4 guy weighing more then 230 around 250 like Wlad and you are a trained boxer. There is no excuse to run behind a referee. That is a bitch...in boxing at least. Did james toney run...he was 230, 200 of that fat a grisle. GO the fuck ahead oscarsexual and your little Klitite fans too. Bitch ass excuse makers.
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

kg0208
09-22-2007, 09:59 PM
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

Umm....Corrales is one of the hardest P4P punchers in recent memory. Castillo has stopped most of the fighters he has beaten. And hell, NDou was a known puncher. Yeah, PBF has fought punchers.

Not gonna get into the rest of what you said. But PBF has certainly faced punchers who are the equivalent of Peter at his weight classes.

allenko1
09-22-2007, 09:59 PM
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

:lol: And we're all gonna take a deep breath...............................
Woooooooooooooooooo I feel better.

brooklyn1550
09-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

Wow

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

You ugly lurch looking bitch..you know how fucking dumb you sound trying justify a fighter running behind a fucking referee. He may of outpointed Peter but he left his balls in the ring. Wlad is a bitch. If he does not knock you out or you actually fight him back his ass goes into bitch mode.. Holding and pushing somebodies head down so that cant get a punch off and running behind a referee is not boxing. If he couldnt handle it within the boxing rules dont fight. I watched the fight when it happend. And I said Wlad is a bitch. The referee was a bitch for not warning for the compulsive holding anytime Peter even looked like he was going to throw a punch.. Any time he was able to land he knocked Wlads ass down.

JimboDs
09-22-2007, 10:06 PM
Wow....great post. Welcome to the board BTW.

Thank you.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 10:06 PM
Listen you lil fuckface, youre so hard on gayweather balls that even Gimp C is jealous .You are so in love with the fag that you apply a certain of rules to your Fraud, than to any other boxer. Has Floyd Gayrunner ever fought a murderous puncher like Peter, NO! And never will, Wlad beat Peter, you know anything about boxing? Then go watch the fight and add up the score at the end, tell me who won? If you say Peter, itll just highlight what kind of c0cksmoking bitchass you really are! Floyd has a great defense no doubt, but hes a welterweight, he can move better than a Heavyweight, thats f*ckin obvious, so of course hes not gonna be slipping all the bombs Peter thru. Go jagg-off in front floyd pics (i know you do that anyway), and leave the boxing to the people who actually watch it.

Oh and you too are a Bitch. For defending bitch moves and bitch-boxing. Like I said bitch, did James Toney run behind a referee..NO... is James toney 6'6 250 pounds like wlad...no.. I see you smell your own...And floyd gayrunner...what about WLadbitchko

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 10:14 PM
Oh and you too are a Bitch. For defending bitch moves and bitch-boxing. Like I said bitch, did James Toney run behind a referee..NO... is James toney 6'6 250 pounds like wlad...no.. I see you smell your own...And floyd gayrunner...what about WLadbitchko
Wlad did not run, he fought a great fight after coming off a loss, no one wanted to face Peter and glass-chin Wlad took on the challenge and beat him convincingly, with no contraversies, no gift decision, no help from no one. When you are hurt in the ring, you hold on, thats boxing 101, thats whats a true vet does. Wlad certainly held, but never did he run from peter, peter ate crazy jabs all night. If you hate him thats fine, but Wlad beat Peter hands down and if they fight hell do it again.

As for these personal attacks on my appearance, it just goes to show how gay you are bro, what do you care if im ulgy or not, you wanna f*$k me or sumthing? YOu wanna do a comparison btw me and floyd or something? You should be looking at what girls look like instead of doods, cause your coming off like a real homo buddy.

Toopretty
09-22-2007, 10:16 PM
Wlad did not run, he fought a great fight after coming off a loss, no one wanted to face Peter and glass-chin Wlad took on the challenge and beat him convincingly, with no contraversies, no gift decision, no help from no one. When you are hurt in the ring, you hold on, thats boxing 101, thats whats a true vet does. Wlad certainly held, but never did he run from peter, peter ate crazy jabs all night. If you hate him thats fine, but Wlad beat Peter hands down and if they fight hell do it again.

As for these personal attacks on my appearance, it just goes to show how gay you are bro, what do you care if im ulgy or not, you wanna f*$k me or sumthing? YOu wanna do a comparison btw me and floyd or something? You should be looking at what girls look like instead of doods, cause your coming off like a real homo buddy.

With that being said...:!:

Jose FM
09-22-2007, 10:21 PM
With that being said...:!:
You asked for it, i was replying to your post you get mad defensive like you on floyds payroll, get over it, there are plenty of boxers other than floyd and oscar, im a boxing fan b4 anything else...

Vantage_West
09-22-2007, 10:58 PM
not really, like he says, he doesn't go in there to knock his oponents out, he goes in there to win a 12 round fight, if his oponent cant make it then thats it.

you think this is slugging?

-vBCPXg23AIyeah he makes a fight of it. he isnt a smart technician he doesnt have a one shot brutal punch. and fights whats infront of him..so yeah that is slugging you fighting to win doesnt matter if he gets a ko or not he wins the fight with his aggresion.

whats your definition of slugging?

Vantage_West
09-22-2007, 11:02 PM
I think Casamayor would have a hard time with the young lightweights. This fight with Santa Cruz coming up will tell alot about what he has left.:think true but i feel it's how well you performed in your last fightg and he beat an out of shape but world level diego and out boxed him very easily.

you could say he is too old for it....but he still isnt going to get fights becuase people are not going to fight him.

Scar
09-22-2007, 11:04 PM
Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Cotto

Any of the three. My personal pick is Mayweather, with a style like his he can give anyone a terrible night and many fighters out there know it.

box03
09-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Sam Peter, Maskaev doesnt want anything to do with him and fought some good fighters in his career.

Scar
09-22-2007, 11:22 PM
Sam Peter, Maskaev doesnt want anything to do with him and fought some good fighters in his career.

Have to disagree here even though Peter is one of my favorites right now and #1 Heavyweight but I doubt Wladimir Klitschko fears him.

box03
09-22-2007, 11:26 PM
Have to disagree here even though Peter is one of my favorites right now and #1 Heavyweight but I doubt Wladimir Klitschko fears him. I like him myself, his fighting style instills alot of fear in most heavywieghts. Like David Tua one good punch from Peter might just end the fight.

Scar
09-22-2007, 11:27 PM
I like him myself, his fighting style instills alot of fear in most heavywieghts. Like David Tua one good punch from Peter might just end the fight.

Yup, got to love his style and attitude out of the ring as well, he's a great guy and deserves support.

Mind Reader
09-22-2007, 11:27 PM
I would have to say Cotto..... That also says alot about Mosley's character.

box03
09-22-2007, 11:35 PM
Yup, got to love his style and attitude out of the ring as well, he's a great guy and deserves support. Is he your favorite active boxer at Heavywieght? I like Peter and Mccall they both have good attitudes about the sport and always come to fight.

JimboDs
09-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Cotto

Any of the three. My personal pick is Mayweather, with a style like his he can give anyone a terrible night and many fighters out there know it.

Nobody will avoid a chance to fight Mayweather because they'll get paid well for it.

Again, 'feared' is pretty relative. I don't think there's really anyone out there who will put the fear of God in a seasoned professional. This discussion should really be more about who is the most avoided.

Sadly, boxing today is really just about marketing yourself to get as many big paydays as you can.

Cotto has a big following. At this point, every Puerto Rican and his grandmother will pay to see him fight. Fighting him means big money.

Fighting Mayweather means big money too. There are plenty of people out there who will order the PPV in hopes of seeing him catch an ass-whooping (as unlikely as it may be).

Sadly, casual fans aren't knowledgable enough for there to be a public outcry for Mayweather to someone like Paul Williams or Kermit Cintron. He'll dodge those guys. Williams is a stylistic nightmare for Mayweather and Cintron's power at that weight is just too dangerous. Mayweather could win, but he could also get knocked cold. He won't take that chance.

Alo2006
09-22-2007, 11:42 PM
I have to go with DLH after those pics of him have surfaced who's gonna want to fight him?


:rofl

PacDbest
09-23-2007, 01:08 AM
Zaheer Raheem, I'm so scared of this Guy. I'm sure nobody wants to fight him now!!! 99% of Boxing fans don't want to see him fight.

Scar
09-23-2007, 01:11 AM
Nobody will avoid a chance to fight Mayweather because they'll get paid well for it.

Again, 'feared' is pretty relative. I don't think there's really anyone out there who will put the fear of God in a seasoned professional. This discussion should really be more about who is the most avoided.

Sadly, boxing today is really just about marketing yourself to get as many big paydays as you can.

Cotto has a big following. At this point, every Puerto Rican and his grandmother will pay to see him fight. Fighting him means big money.

Fighting Mayweather means big money too. There are plenty of people out there who will order the PPV in hopes of seeing him catch an ass-whooping (as unlikely as it may be).

Sadly, casual fans aren't knowledgable enough for there to be a public outcry for Mayweather to someone like Paul Williams or Kermit Cintron. He'll dodge those guys. Williams is a stylistic nightmare for Mayweather and Cintron's power at that weight is just too dangerous. Mayweather could win, but he could also get knocked cold. He won't take that chance.

I agree with everything in your post except for the last part. You would think Mayweather will dodge Cintron because of his power but didn't dodge DLH's proven punching power at Light Middleweight(with everything favoring DLH in the contract and first fight for PBF at light middleweight)?
Doesn't make sense to me.

Scar
09-23-2007, 01:21 AM
edison miranda

he may of lost to kelly pavlik but miranda is the next big thing in the sport of boxing.

Sure he is. :rofl :rofl :rofl

retriever
09-23-2007, 01:27 AM
Wladimir

andyZOR
09-23-2007, 01:41 AM
edison miranda

he may of lost to kelly pavlik but miranda is the next big thing in the sport of boxing.

I agree, even tho Scar doesn't. He stil packs a punch, and could shake the 168 divison.

Scar
09-23-2007, 01:49 AM
what do you mean sure he is.

you wouldn't last 10 seconds in the ring with him.

edison miranda is the new tyson.

by the end of 08 he will be the most feared boxer of all time.

What a reply!!, I wouldn't last in the ring with Miranda!, WOW, you totally shut me up there. :patsch
Miranda is complete garbage. One-dimensional, chinless, poor speed and lacks stamina. Only advantage he has is power, if that fails(like it did against Pavlik) then he's getting knocked the fuck out. Next Tyson?, PLEAAAAAASE man. Tyson, THE HEAVYWEIGHT, is 4x faster than Miranda.

o_money
09-23-2007, 01:54 AM
I agree, even tho Scar doesn't. He stil packs a punch, and could shake the 168 divison.

Time will tell. I know that at welterwieght cotto now looks a lot stronger. He looks like he can take a punch better, his movement and speed are still good and his power is just as crippling at WW as it was at jr. ww. If EM's move to S MW works in the same way he will be a force to recon with in that week division. I hope we get to see a rematch of the pavlik fight at the higher wieght where he won't be wieght drain as shit. Cause you know he'd have more on his punches.

Scar
09-23-2007, 02:08 AM
If miranda is complete garbage then why was he going to get a title shot if he got past pavlik.

i think the only miranda fight that you have seen was the one against pavlik where he was the heaviest that he has ever been. please log on to you tube and look at his fights against willie gibbs and howard eastman then reply to me. then will se if you think he is One-dimensional, chinless, poor speed and lacks stamina.

the boy will rule boxing in 1 years time.

I've seen many of his fights, trust me on that. It's you who I should question here, you deny the chinless comments yet mention the Eastman fight?, did you notice that by the end of the 5th round Miranda was OUT on his feet from 1 single clean shot that Eastman landed?
Have you seen the Abraham fight?, have you seen all the illegal desperate tactics he used?, did you notice that by the end of the 8th round Abraham nearly floored Miranda even though he had a broke jaw?, and did you notice that Miranda wobbled MANY times against Abraham everytime he got caught with ANY decent shot?
Did you notice that Green floored Miranda when they met?, did you also notice that Pavlik wiped the floor with Miranda in brutal one-sided fashion since the opening bell and the very first clean power punch Pavlik lands he wobbles Miranda and pummels him to the body, from the very start. You want me to educate you with Miranda's fights?, I can do so round by round if you want. :hi:

Bad Blood
09-23-2007, 02:15 AM
Joel Casamayor. Nobody seems to want to face him

Bad Blood
09-23-2007, 02:17 AM
I've seen many of his fights, trust me on that. It's you who I should question here, you deny the chinless comments yet mention the Eastman fight?, did you notice that by the end of the 5th round Miranda was OUT on his feet from 1 single clean shot that Eastman landed?
Have you seen the Abraham fight?, have you seen all the illegal desperate tactics he used?, did you notice that by the end of the 8th round Abraham nearly floored Miranda even though he had a broke jaw?, and did you notice that Miranda wobbled MANY times against Abraham everytime he got caught with ANY decent shot?
Did you notice that Green floored Miranda when they met?, did you also notice that Pavlik wiped the floor with Miranda in brutal one-sided fashion since the opening bell and the very first clean power punch Pavlik lands he wobbles Miranda and pummels him to the body, from the very start. You want me to educate you with Miranda's fights?, I can do so round by round if you want. :hi:

That was easy

jaycuban
09-23-2007, 02:32 AM
Believe me... Winkly Wright is feared alot

JimboDs
09-23-2007, 08:10 AM
I agree with everything in your post except for the last part. You would think Mayweather will dodge Cintron because of his power but didn't dodge DLH's proven punching power at Light Middleweight(with everything favoring DLH in the contract and first fight for PBF at light middleweight)?
Doesn't make sense to me.

DLH represented big, big, money. He also had a lot to gain by beating him.

He has less to gain by beating Cintron who isn't nearly as big a name as DLH and has more power than DLH.

It's not about who we think the best fighters are. It's about making the right matchups to get the big pay-days. If Cintron manages to become a big name even among casual boxing fans, then he'll have to fight him because the money will be too big.

Toopretty
09-23-2007, 08:14 AM
Zaheer Raheem, I'm so scared of this Guy. I'm sure nobody wants to fight him now!!! 99% of Boxing fans don't want to see him fight.

He is the boxings anti-christ to me. I want to punch him. He is the only boxer that I want to physically try to fight just b/c his style irritates the living shit out of me. I have posted DOWN WITH RAHEEM! Threads before. I would watch Cory Spinks all day then watch a fight of his.

Orang-Utan Jim
09-23-2007, 08:17 AM
Mikkel Kessler and Wlad Klitschko

valdez
09-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Cotto..

lefthook31
09-23-2007, 10:33 AM
Must be anyone who Vitali Klitschko signs to fight. :blood

India_Foot_Bob
09-23-2007, 10:36 AM
I don't know. But Calzaghe is the most fearful.

That is why he will not fight any *good* American boxers -fullstop-

MrMagic
09-23-2007, 10:50 AM
Nobody is afraid of Floyd, he brings the big payday to the table, and honestly.. he doesn't put a hurtin' on his opponents, well.. that is lately.
Paul Williams and Miguel Cotto are good picks.
And to the least feared boxer right now, the award goes to Oscar De La Hoya, simply because he can get you financially set.

jisi
09-23-2007, 11:50 AM
Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Cotto

Any of the three. My personal pick is Mayweather, with a style like his he can give anyone a terrible night and many fighters out there know it.

Good list but my is:

Wlad Klitschko
Mayweather
Cotto

koko of phil
09-23-2007, 11:54 AM
Whoever PBF fears, he is the one.. :yep

Relentless
09-23-2007, 11:54 AM
Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Cotto

Any of the three. My personal pick is Mayweather, with a style like his he can give anyone a terrible night and many fighters out there know it.

that is not true, everyone wants to fight mayweather, he might be tough to beat but everyone wants a piece of him, even a 'journeyman' like margarito is not afraid

Daruf
09-23-2007, 11:56 AM
Rare is the fighter that is truly feared by other professionals. I don't think there are any on the scene right now.

If by 'feared' you mean avoided, Wvlad and Paul Williams.

Boxing is a business. Cotto isn't avoided because there's big money if you fight him.

The fighters you avoid are the ones that can beat you convincingly or make you look bad and don't represent a big pay day (i.e. not much to gain, but a lot to lose).

Even though hardcore boxing fans know that Wlad is the best proven heavyweight right know, the casual fan is completely and utterly confused by the state of the heavyweight division. Plus, Wlad is boring. As a result, a fight with Wlad means a mediocre payday and a likely ass-whooping.

Paul Williams isn't a big enough name among casual fans yet and his style represents serious problems for most fighters.

Actually Wlad is a huge draw and a fight with him can be a very very large payday.

Pimp C
09-23-2007, 12:33 PM
Paul Williams no one is rushing out to fight this guy at 147.

Boom_Boom
09-23-2007, 12:45 PM
LOL @ you people saying Cotto,

Anyone who has a chance to fight Cotto has a chance to win a title and have guranteed big payday.

Judah,Margarito,Mosely, Malignaggi, Vargas, & Delahoya are just a few names who have said they would like to fight cotto or rematch him again.

tampa
09-23-2007, 12:58 PM
its not on most avoided. who is the feared boxer right. i believe it cotto. why else wont pbf fight him and he claims to be the best. i respect mosley alot for having the balls to fight him. but i never thought otherwise. i wonder what will pbf say if cotto gets by mosley.

Vantage_West
09-23-2007, 12:59 PM
did you notice how hard Cottos punches hard when they land? You can easily hear them, they make a definite crunching noise whenever he lands cleanly:nono dont lie man

Vantage_West
09-23-2007, 01:01 PM
LOL @ you people saying Cotto,

Anyone who has a chance to fight Cotto has a chance to win a title and have guranteed big payday.

Judah,Margarito,Mosely, Malignaggi, Vargas, & Delahoya are just a few names who have said they would like to fight cotto or rematch him again.exactly he is the new gatti his style involves taking hits and throwing back.

he is beatable and people know it...just no one is going to crack it. becuase he is learning very quick he showed how gorwn up he was when he fought judah.

Rise Above
09-23-2007, 01:02 PM
I'd have to go with Cotto too.

41fever
09-23-2007, 01:03 PM
Cotto

Relentless
09-23-2007, 01:19 PM
exactly he is the new gatti his style involves taking hits and throwing back.

he is beatable and people know it...just no one is going to crack it. becuase he is learning very quick he showed how gorwn up he was when he fought judah.

your hate for cotto is blinding you, no one is saying cotto is unbeatable.


and puleez dont compare the limited gatti to cotto.

nervousxtian
09-23-2007, 01:32 PM
Nobody fears Cotto. People are lining up to take a shot at him.

AmazingHook
09-23-2007, 01:35 PM
Nobody is going to say Cotto after Mosley destroys him.

bumdujour
09-23-2007, 01:37 PM
margaritho for sure.

he is deathly afraid of himself!

sues2nd
09-23-2007, 02:08 PM
Cotto
Williams
Spinks (good call Tob)
Ding

nervousxtian
09-23-2007, 02:34 PM
Nobody fears Mijares.

Well maybe Arce.

JAM Killer
09-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Wlad Klitschko

unclepaulie
09-27-2007, 07:04 PM
charlie zelenoff

Fab2333
09-27-2007, 07:07 PM
Mayweather :yep
Paul Williams probably b/c of his height and reach

Fab2333
09-27-2007, 07:08 PM
charlie zelenoff:happy agreed, vicious boxer is the most feared grrr. Hes feared more than Carlito and Antonio Margarito:yep

CHEF
09-27-2007, 07:09 PM
I would stay Wlad Klitschko.


:good :good :good :good :good
After beating Peter and making Byrd, Brock, Austin, and Brewster look like amatures....I also say Klitschko

psychopath
09-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Cory Spinks. And i´m serious, nobody wants to fight him.

Yeah I agree that nobody wants to fight him but I can't attribute that to him being feared . . . it's more of other fighters thinking that he is just a waste of time. :yep

psychopath
09-27-2007, 07:18 PM
.
Caballero targets Ponce De Leon!

"I am sad," says WBA super bantamweight champion Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero. "I had admired [WBO super bantamweight champion Daniel] Ponce de Leon as an example of bravery and courage not just in boxing, but in all of sports. However, he is hiding. He doesn't even mention my name, like I don't mean anything. I am the champion of the ghetto, the champion of the WBA, and I am going to insist on that fight before any other, but so far Ponce De Leon has disappointed me. He is hiding from me and that is not macho." Caballero feels disappointed in all the other current world champions in his weight category, but he spoke specifically of Ponce de Leon, whom he defeated in 2004.

:yep :good

BoppaZoo
09-27-2007, 07:38 PM
I wouldnt really say Cotto because i feel
all these fighters would love a go at him since they witnessed Judah rock him twice.
Mosley (its already on)
Cintron
Williams
Margarito
Clottey
Im sure all of them would love a shot at Cotto.

I feel Klitschko should be more feared and will be because the other so called Heavyweights just are not at his level.

MSTR
09-27-2007, 07:41 PM
I wouldnt really say Cotto because i feel
all these fighters would love a go at him since they witnessed Judah rock him twice.
Mosley (its already on)
Cintron
Williams
Margarito
Clottey
Im sure all of them would love a shot at Cotto.

I feel Klitschko should be more feared and will be because the other so called Heavyweights just are not at his level.
Miguel Cotto!!!

box03
09-27-2007, 08:06 PM
:good :good :good :good :good
After beating Peter and making Byrd, Brock, Austin, and Brewster look like amatures....I also say Klitschko He had trouble beating Peter but anyway I feel Wlad is feared by some, while other fighters feel they could expose his weak chin if they got the chance to fight him. I feel Sam Peter is the most feared fighter out there, his one punch power is a amazing to say the least and is chin is strong enough to go toe to toe with anyone in the heavywieght division right now.

Quik
09-27-2007, 08:22 PM
I would say Israel Vasquez. It takes some balls to fight him IMO.