Colin Jones v Antonio Margarito

[Decy]

Colin Jones v Antonio Margarito I think this would be real war Jones is as tough as they come with a great punch Margarito soaks up the punishment and is the more skilled.My pick would be Jones but I am biased and was a big fan of his.

[Xplosive]

Jones would have blasted him.

[Flea Man]

I think Jones would stop him.

[Flea Man]

An absolute war whilst it lasts, but Jones' left hook is far more brutal than Cotto's.

Jones KO 11

[Mr Butt]

jones wins by late stoppage in a classic toe to toe war (fight in a phone booth)

[Flea Man]

However, if Marg can cut Jones who knows

[johnmaff36]

Colin Jones v Antonio Margarito I think this would be real war Jones is as tough as they come with a great punch Margarito soaks up the punishment and is the more skilled.My pick would be Jones but I am biased and was a big fan of his.
So was i. Never felt as sorry for a guy in the ring as much as when the DR advised the ref to stop his fight with Curry. Amazingly retired at 25!

[Mantequilla]

MArgarito was certainly not more skilled than Jones.He mostly just marches straight in winging telegraphed clubbing hooks.

Jones was a one-dimensional, slow paced plodder that struggled to put punches together against anyone giving him a lot of movement, but he was also mostly technically sound with a very good heavy jab, dangerous offensive arsenal and nice quartey-esque high guard.He was no great talent by any means, but as a pure puncher, most likely on a similar level to someone like Galaxy.No doubt could have had a good reign against that kind of comp.

I'd say strength would be Margo's clear advantage, but not to the extent where i wouldn't expect him to get brutally knocked out in a nice slugfest.

JOnes and McCrory were nothing special in the gand scheme of things and Milt was very overrated when he was champ, but i tend to think they would have done really well against most of the non-great Welter\jr welter champs of recent years.


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I noticed there are a few early JOnes knockouts on youtube if anyone wants to check them out.

[Decy]

Thanks for the input:good

If my memory is correct Ring magazine rated Jones as the best WW of the eighties not to win a title.I would love to of seen him about today him v Cotto would be an absolute war Jones Clottey would be good too.

[anarci]

Again Nostalga is taking over your better sense of judgement here. I remember jones and he was one tough SOB and had skills,but he would have been busted up buy Margarito. Jones would have taken an early lead but buy the mid rounds Margo would have started to put a major hurting on him and hed stop him in 10 bloody rounds,with most of it coming from Colin.

[AREA 53]

The Caution in picking Jones is that their was a suggestion that Colin did not like it to the body, this arose From Kirk Laing Hurting Colin to the body, If this suspicion is accurate than Margarito is the Last person you want to be in with as Cintron found out, But if Colin has no particular weakness to the Body than i think he would be the sound Pick - Antonio, against Class quite often had to take a licking, keep on Ticking, and Grind his man Down, sometimes his opponents spirits would be crushed, this would not happen with Jones the welsh Dragon ! you can not walk through his shots when he open up, plus Jones will not Wilt mentally, If Colin can hit you flush then its YOU who have Problems !

Subject to No problem to the Jones Body, (and of course no Cestus in Antonios Gloves !) Then Jones is the Confident Pick

( Colin also had a Spiteful Jab which is often overlooked by the Focus usually being on Colins Big fight Termination Punches !)

[My2Sense]

Again Nostalga is taking over your better sense of judgement here.

Agreed.

I don't see a clear winner in this one. Jones has the bigger punch, but Margo has the higher workrate. Other than that, they both were very hittable and had limited skills.

[Mantequilla]

Maybe they just think Jones is better?.There wasn't much to get nostalgic about the early eighties was there?.;)

[The Morlocks]

So was i. Never felt as sorry for a guy in the ring as much as when the DR advised the ref to stop his fight with Curry. Amazingly retired at 25!
The doctor actually pulled the cut apart! Jones was a great puncher and his one punch ko's were great. I thought he won both McCrory fights and looked forward to seeing a nice long career (just like i did with McGuigan) unfortunately it didn't happen. :hat

[AlFrancis]

Jones was a true puncher with patience. Technically he was good so he presented problems for boxers, Laing, Palm and boxer punchers, McCrory. I think a fight between him and Margarito produces fireworks because they both seem suited stylistically to each other. I think Jones can land the bomb on an aggresive Margarito bar cuts.

[My2Sense]

There wasn't much to get nostalgic about the early eighties was there?.;)

An unbiased and objective person wouldn't think so, but others here clearly do.

You'll find people who are nostalgic about every stretch of history. 10-20 years from now, you'll be hearing people say, "Cotto or Clottey would've whupped that guy..."

[Mantequilla]

I know, i was just fooling around.

Jones should be able to beat Margarito on merit and styles alone though dpesite his own glaring flaws, he's one of the best B level pure punchers of recent decades at the weight, along with Jose Luis Lopez. marching straight in with no skill throwing widely telegraphed punches and taking punches flush is not a good idea against guys like that.It's not ridiculous for anyone to think he'd do well against a lot of recent top ten/champion Welters, which says at least as much about the srength of the division recently as it does him of course.

Cotto, Mayorga, Spinks, old Mosley Judah etc...are on a roughyl similar level to them and the McCrory's, blockers, Brelands of the eighties imo.None of them special or complete.

[Vantage_West]

wow. im amazed by the answers.

jones though a fantastic puncher, solid chin and a hard jab had little else. a wide stance that cemented him to the ground, low workrate. i think a guy like margo would cramp his style and put him onto the backfoot.

margo was stopped by mosley. but not after getting beaten to the punch and taken apart. i dont think jones has the speed or technique/technical approach to destroy him and in that doesnt have his space to let loose.

margo ud or late stoppage

[mcvey]

MArgarito was certainly not more skilled than Jones.He mostly just marches straight in winging telegraphed clubbing hooks.

Jones was a one-dimensional, slow paced plodder that struggled to put punches together against anyone giving him a lot of movement, but he was also mostly technically sound with a very good heavy jab, dangerous offensive arsenal and nice quartey-esque high guard.He was no great talent by any means, but as a pure puncher, most likely on a similar level to someone like Galaxy.No doubt could have had a good reign against that kind of comp.

I'd say strength would be Margo's clear advantage, but not to the extent where i wouldn't expect him to get brutally knocked out in a nice slugfest.

JOnes and McCrory were nothing special in the gand scheme of things and Milt was very overrated when he was champ, but i tend to think they would have done really well against most of the non-great Welter\jr welter champs of recent years.


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I noticed there are a few early JOnes knockouts on youtube if anyone wants to check them out.

Good post ,you summed him up well,I saw a lot of his fights from ringside ,he was a slow puncher ,with very heavy hands ,but never busy enough at top level.
Kirkland Laing made him look pedestrian twice, before , taking his eye off the ball and being kod both times.
I would give Colin a very live chance against Margarito.

[Mantequilla]

I'd agree that if Margarito beats him it'll be because was able to consistently back him up.

BUt i thnk he'll get hit plenty on the way in and that heavy jab will keep margo off balance enough to allow the welshman to unload.he also generally throws shorter,better quality punches and has a good tight guard, which while easily penetrable by a sharpshooter, would work well against the clubbing telegraphed bombs Margo throws.I'd expect Margo to get worn down in half the time it took mosley if he's eating a decent amount of shots per round.unless Jones turns out to have a below average beard, which didn't seem to be the case despite an early knockdown against McCrory, then the cheat ain't winning a war of attrition against basically a Khaosai Glaxy/Moon level banger.

Not nostalgia here, just a firm believe a lot of the recent champs weren't that special.Hell, if the cheat had a decent defence or actually threw proper punches i'd probably pick him here.

[Mantequilla]

Good post ,you summed him up well,I saw a lot of his fights from ringside ,he was a slow puncher ,with very heavy hands ,but never busy enough at top level.
Kirkland Laing made him look pedestrian twice, before , taking his eye off the ball and being kod both times.
I would give Colin a very live chance against Margarito.

McCrory was a tough style to overcome for a puncher of JOnes limitations.height, reach, fought safety first with a ton of movement once he tasted the power etc, ,yet the welshman had him doing an Ali impression and fighting scared as hell after landing barely a fraction of the shots Milt took blow for blow against a really good junior middle hitter like McCallum...Guys like Shields, Flea Richardson and the like were able to execute similar strategies and do well going the distance with other more succesful punchers like Cuevas and Moon.I tend to thnk the Milt fights proved he was at roughly that level of effectivness as a puncher,probably just a notch below.

Curry of course was just too talented to lose to a methodical textbook plodder.