Sultan Ibrigamov and the East Euros

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You got to love these guys:

"Boxing is important to my life right now, but there are other ways I can be a man who is good for the world."

You have the Klitscko's who donate money to their causes, and guys like Sultan who took time out the other day for that charity event. Valuev and Chag who have always conducted themselves as gentlemen. These Easterners are a breath of fresh air.

Well done.

[dragosuhail]

:good right on.

[Cruiser1]

You got to love these guys:

"Boxing is important to my life right now, but there are other ways I can be a man who is good for the world."

You have the Klitscko's who donate money to their causes, and guys like Sultan who took time out the other day for that charity event. Valuev and Chag who have always conducted themselves as gentlemen. These Easterners are a breath of fresh air.

Well done.

They're just people like everyone else. You shouldn't be putting anybody up on a pedestal based on what part of the world they are from. Plenty of fighters from other countries (including the USA) are charitable. That's a pretty stupid statement coming from a guy like Sultan who brings absolutely nothing to the table as far as personality and charsima go. Boxing is the only way he can ever afford to be charitable so he should probably stick around for a while. There's no other endeavor that would allow him to have the type of lifestyle he has now and no 9-5 would pay him money to the point where he can go donate it to charities. He's a nice guy but let's face it nobody's got him on their speed dial to come give speeches at local schools.

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They're just people like everyone else. You shouldn't be putting anybody up on a pedestal based on what part of the world they are from. Plenty of fighters from other countries (including the USA) are charitable. That's a pretty stupid statement coming from a guy like Sultan who brings absolutely nothing to the table as far as personality and charsima go. Boxing is the only way he can ever afford to be charitable so he should probably stick around for a while. There's no other endeavor that would allow him to have the type of lifestyle he has now and no 9-5 would pay him money to the point where he can go donate it to charities. He's a nice guy but let's face it nobody's got him on their speed dial to come give speeches at local schools.
You may have missed the other day when he did take time to do some charity work. He has only been champion for so long, and needs time to build a body of work.

Yes, there are good folks everywhere, but I'm sorry, I sense a pattern here.

[Cruiser1]

You may have missed the other day when he did take time to do some charity work. He has only been champion for so long, and needs time to build a body of work.

Yes, there are good folks everywhere, but I'm sorry, I sense a pattern here.

They are good sportsmen. I'll give u that. They're not gonna start any press conference brawls or insult their opponent to sell tickets but they're human and that doesn't make them impervious to acting like other people do. Too often do we give credit to guys just because of their background. We say that Vitali didn't duck Rahman and Oleg isn't ducking Peter by covering it up with statements such as "oh these guys are too professional to do that" when their actions say otherwise. I like fighters from all over the globe but I don't regard any nationality/ethinicity as better than another. Every single one has its good people and its bad and I'm certainly no one to judge who those people are. I'm just telling u that they are out there.

[Cruiser1]

You make no fucking sense. the guy is charitable because of what his boxing ability has done for him. Your statement that he wouldnt be charitable if he wasnt a boxer is ridiculous. Thats comparable to saying Bono wouldnt be well known if he wasnt any good at music. No shit he wouldnt be well known, but he is because of his what he can do. People become successful because of their talents, and when their talents get them that success, it is should be admired that they use the opportunity to help others. You sound petty and jealous with your shallow statments. They have no merit or basis for defense and argument.

I'm basically saying that he should stick to boxing and make as much money as he can. This was in regards to a question Sultan was asked about continuing to fight. I'm saying that other than boxing he has absolutely nothing to offer in order to make major money. He has no personality and nobody really knows who he is. He needs boxing and more high profile fights to earn the type of money that allows him to be charitable and he's already sounding like he's thinking of retirement. Oh, and I'm not jealous of the guy at all. I can stop 10 people on the street and 9 of them won't know him. This will change though albeit dubiously. By next month he'll be the Soviet version of Michael Moorer when Holyfield takes his belt from him. Oh and by the way, you can go fuck yourself.

[The Whaler]

Does Oleg Maskaev contribute to charities?

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Does Oleg Maskaev contribute to charities?
Not that I know of. He only really started making money recently, and is pretty much at the end, os I doubt he will contribute moeny the way the Klitsckos do.

[andyZOR]

Wlad always sends money over to African schools. Hes a overall good guy.

[box03]

Like Cruiser already said unless your a big boxing fan you wouldnt know any of these champs if they were standing right next to you in a bar, I miss the old days when the average man knew who the champ was. Its not even a nationality thing because when Chris Bryd was the recognized champ the average person didnt know that, heavywieght boxing hasnt been anything since the 90s.

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Like Cruiser already said unless your a big boxing fan you wouldnt any of these champs if they were standing right next to you in a bar, I miss the old days when the average man knew he the champ was. Its not even a nationality thing because when Chris Bryd was the recognized champ the average person didnt know that, heavywieght boxing hasnt been anything since the 90s.
It think if there was a unification, it would help.

Also, I think if Wladdy really made it clear what he was doing by sending that money to Africa. If he came out and said that he wanted to use his title to change the world like Louis and Ali- then people would know who he was.

[box03]

It think if there was a unification, it would help.

Also, I think if Wladdy really made it clear what he was doing by sending that money to Africa. If he came out and said that he wanted to use his title to change the world like Louis and Ali- then people would know who he was. I agree a unfication would help a great deal, I just feel the heavywieght division is far away from becoming the dominant force it used to be.