BBC Sports Personality of the year

[colinthfc]

I believe there are only 2 contenders Jenson Button or David Haye.

Lewis Hamilton in his first season when he was 2nd in the F1 World Championship was beaten by Calzaghe, and when he won the Championship he was beaten by a cyclist. Is Jenson Button more worthy?

Think of the personality of Haye first before his achievement. He has got everyone talking about boxing. My old mum said to me yesterday "I bet you are watching that boy fight that Goliath tonight?"

He got under the skin of both Klitchko's just like Ali did to Liston and Foreman.

It is no no brainer for me - Haye for Sport Personality of the year. Our sport 2 years out of 3, not bad for a sport which does not get its share of TV coverage.

[turpinr]

1. haye
2. ennis

[GazOC]

1) Ennis.

[widdy]

i hope dan b don't see this thread,he will go off on one again:rofl

[GazOC]

i hope dan b don't see this thread,he will go off on one again:rofl

:lol:

That thread DID get a little "sidetracked", didn't it?

[turpinr]

i hope dan b don't see this thread,he will go off on one again:roflwhy is that ???

[AndrewFFC]

Er, is this Haye who has fought once this whole year against a B level world champ?

[colinthfc]

1) Ennis.

I had to google her to work out who you were referring to. I do not doubt her achievements, but the sports personality of the year should not need to ge google'd

[Primadonna Kool]

Jenson Button...!!!

He did'nt even have a team to drive for at the end of last F1 season..!!!

David Haye got abit of a Gift decision aswell...!!!!!!!

[Dirt99]

carl froch.. just putting it out there.

[AndrewFFC]

Going off on a tangent, why the fuck wasnt Hatton atleast top 3 in 2005?

[turpinr]

Jenson Button...!!!

He did'nt even have a team to drive for at the end of last F1 season..!!!

David Haye got abit of a Gift decision aswell...!!!!!!!a team and an engine.

[Primadonna Kool]

a team and an engine.

Yeh yeh man...

21 Races, the most competitive roller-coaster F1 season in my lifetime.

Jenson Button deserves it..!!!!

Under Pressure Jenson Button delivered..!!!

[GazOC]

I had to google her to work out who you were referring to. I do not doubt her achievements, but the sports personality of the year should not need to ge google'd


No offence but if you had to Google Ennis then you can't watch a great deal of sport.

She's a world champion, attractive and (most importantly) her achievements were televised on the BBC so they'll have all the highlight footage they want when it comes to the lead up to the program. What will they show of Haye?

[Primadonna Kool]

No offence but if you had to Google Ennis then you can't watch a great deal of sport.

She's a world champion, attractive and (most importantly) he achievements were televised on the BBC so they'll have all the highlight footage they want when it comes to the lead up to the program. What will they show of Haye?

Yeh she is attactive..

She is well better than the moaning ass Kelly Southernton..

Who the BBC and selectors bum, just like they used to bum Craig Pickering.

One of my favourite decathletes was Dean Macey...!

[Philphy Rich]

Hatton

[robpalmer135]

froch is more deserving than haye but hope haye gets it.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Jessica Ennis has achieved way more than anybody else this year.

Don't get me started on Jenson Button - 80% of F1 is being in the right car IMO. I remember when Mika Salo stepped in to drive a bit for Ferrari a few years back, and went from near the back of the grid to finishing in the points straight away.

That said, he did do well to win the title, of course.

[Mr. V.I.P.]

Never heard of ennis what has she done?

[GPater11093]

yeh what has Ennis done

[Beeston Brawler]

:lol:

She won the heptathlon gold medal at the world championships. Well, she didn't just win it...... she completely shredded the field.

It was like Daley Thompson in 1980 & 84, when all he had to do was finish the 1500m and the gold was his - except the women run 800m.

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This is her wiki page - and she is from Yorkshire also :yep

[Jacko]

Ennis for me.

F1 is as much about the car as it is about the driver, hence why even drivers admit F1 is a team sport and Haye only beat the weakest world champion in his division. If he had beaten a Klitschko then maybe he might have deserved it.




One of my favourite decathletes was Dean Macey...!

I loved Macey. Pity he was crippled by injuries.

[Primadonna Kool]

:lol:

She won the heptathlon gold medal at the world championships. Well, she didn't just win it...... she completely shredded the field.

It was like Daley Thompson in 1980 & 84, when all he had to do was finish the 1500m and the gold was his - except the women run 800m.

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This is her wiki page - and she is from Yorkshire also :yep

Dailey Thompson was Olympic Champion....

Double Olympic Champion..

He used to wear a T - Shirt...

"Claiming he was the World Greatest Athlete's at the time of Carl Lewis haye day..!"

[turpinr]

:lol:

She won the heptathlon gold medal at the world championships. Well, she didn't just win it...... she completely shredded the field.

It was like Daley Thompson in 1980 & 84, when all he had to do was finish the 1500m and the gold was his - except the women run 800m.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

This is her wiki page - and she is from Yorkshire also :yepshe's brilliant.seriously,its beween haye and ennis
beeston ,you're a sound bloke, politics apart:lol::lol:

[colinthfc]

Ennis for me.

F1 is as much about the car as it is about the driver, hence why even drivers admit F1 is a team sport and Haye only beat the weakest world champion in his division. If he had beaten a Klitschko then maybe he might have deserved it.




I loved Macey. Pity he was crippled by injuries.

Ennis, if it was best athlete, but it is sports personality.

In the media how well known is she?
If she appeared on the back pages how many would say who?

[Beeston Brawler]

I think by nature she is pretty shy.

A lot of winners of SPOTY haven't been household names..... Chris Hoy isn't a household name, Rebecca Adlington isn't either - and not all of them are PERSONALITIES..... Jonny Wilkinson comes across as being a dour guy, and Calzaghe :-(

[turpinr]

Ennis, if it was best athlete, but it is sports personality.

In the media how well known is she?
If she appeared on the back pages how many would say who?
it might be my bias but,i have always thought any able bodied man could box or run and jump irrespective of what background you come from or how much money your family has.

its different in motor-sports,people from poorer backgrounds or poorer countries are excluded.the f1 isn't a world championship really,just better than other people with the money to take part.ditto show jumping,although it hasn't stopped princess horse and her pony daughter winning SPOTY.

[Maza1987]

button
haye
ennis

all ledges for their achievement. and im a sports nut

[Beeston Brawler]

That was a right fucking joke.

Then again, 2006 was a joke full stop for British sport. England choked in the world cup, boxers did fuck all, the rugby teams were all raped by the southern hemisphere sides.

[richard mossley]

I have David Haye and Bradley Wiggens, maybe even Cavendish.

[Maza1987]

ps, i dont ever want to see a fucking footballer win it unless england win the euros or world cup
full stop.

[GazOC]

If anyone fancies a bet that Haye will finish above Ennis in the SPOTY then I'll take it. Even money.

[Beeston Brawler]

She is 5/1 with Betfair.

Button is the favourite, odds on :-(

Betfair have odds on just about anyone - if someone fancies a punt on Ravi Bopara they are welcome at 999/1 :rofl:patsch

[Primadonna Kool]

Who gives a shit about sports personality anyway..

Over the years it has been fixed..!

Remember when that horse riding woman won it..?

Who cares..!

[GazOC]

She is 5/1 with Betfair.

Button is the favourite, odds on :-(


F1 fans are good voters.

['Ben']

Haye for me aswell.

[Beeston Brawler]

I don't see him as a personality though...... it's tough to identify with someone who has been a laughing stock for pretty much all his career, before falling on his feet with Ross Braun.

Certainly harder than it is to do so with someone like Ennis - working class girl from working class family, athletes have to absolutely flog themselves to even make it to the big events, never mind win them.

That said, Button is more personable than Lewis Hamilton, who for some reason I simply cannot stand, at all.

[Johnboy2007]

This is all going on weather you consider formula one a sport :tong







........joke!!!

[Primadonna Kool]

I don't see him as a personality though...... it's tough to identify with someone who has been a laughing stock for pretty much all his career, before falling on his feet with Ross Braun.

Certainly harder than it is to do so with someone like Ennis - working class girl from working class family, athletes have to absolutely flog themselves to even make it to the big events, never mind win them.

That said, Button is more personable than Lewis Hamilton, who for some reason I simply cannot stand, at all.

How has Jenson Button been a laughing stock for most of his career..????

[GazOC]

I don't see him as a personality though...... it's tough to identify with someone who has been a laughing stock for pretty much all his career, before falling on his feet with Ross Braun.

Certainly harder than it is to do so with someone like Ennis - working class girl from working class family, athletes have to absolutely flog themselves to even make it to the big events, never mind win them.

That said, Button is more personable than Lewis Hamilton, who for some reason I simply cannot stand, at all.

I agree totally BB. I'm just speaking from who I think will win it and why. Haye hasn't got a cat in hells chance.

[Dan684]

I had Haye to win Yesterday morning at 14's on 365. He's down significantly now.

I'll win £98 if he gets the nod :happy. Not holding my breath though

[Beeston Brawler]

How has Jenson Button been a laughing stock for most of his career..????

You really need me to answer that? :nut

The guy was paid millions of pounds early in his career, hyped up as the next big thing - yet did fuck all until recently.

Look, I'm not taking anything away from him winning the world championship, but to me (and others it seems) you can be the best driver in the world but if the car isn't the best you will be lucky to get in the points.

I kinda lost interest in it when they changed the rules to make it harder for Schumacher to whup everyone :-(

[essexboy]

Phil Taylor will get overlooked again. You might not class darts as a sport but what he has achieved is unparalleled. I dont think any boxer deserves it this year. Certainly not Froch anyway, if Haye gets a couple of good wins next year then he might be up for it. Probably be someone in the Ashes team although I wouldnt mind seeing Button win it.

[Beeston Brawler]

I agree totally BB. I'm just speaking from who I think will win it and why. Haye hasn't got a cat in hells chance.

:good

I'd be surprised if he made the top 3, being 100% honest......

[RichT]

We all know this has nothing to do with personality . . .Nigel Mansell won it FFS. It's based on acheivement and since it is voted for by the public generally comes down to who got the most exposure whilst they did something special (making it seem even more special)(Although this doesn't really explain that royal horse woman that won!)

I think it will be a battle between Button and Haye. Normally the F1 guy would take it imo but Haye has drummed up a lot of publicity so has a good shout.

[RichT]

. . .or as posted above, Strauss could be a good shout

[Beeston Brawler]

I don't think the cricket thing really captured the public's imagination much.

For starters it was on Sky, and it wasn't a contest between the world's best two teams like it was in 2005. Australia were still #1 but had lost at home to SA (before beating them in SA) and England lost to West Indies in the winter.

It was the worst Aussie team to come over since 1985.... and they only had one genuine superstar in Ponting.... rather than seven or eight as in 2005.

[RichT]

I don't think the cricket thing really captured the public's imagination much.

For starters it was on Sky, and it wasn't a contest between the world's best two teams like it was in 2005. Australia were still #1 but had lost at home to SA (before beating them in SA) and England lost to West Indies in the winter.

It was the worst Aussie team to come over since 1985.... and they only had one genuine superstar in Ponting.... rather than seven or eight as in 2005.

Agree it wasn't any where near as captivating (or special in terms of acheivement) as 2005 but I also wonder exactly who it is that votes for these things. . . .

Won't be having any money on the result that's for sure.

[GPater11093]

Ennis is hot she deserves it

[Dan684]

Ennis is hot she deserves it

Suprising statement from a self-confessed cock lover :huh

[GPater11093]

Suprising statement from a self-confessed cock lover :huh

you what?

i was half joking i read abit about her and shes achieved alot. Definitly as good as any other Brit in terms of sporting achievement and she is good looking aswell

EDIT: while i remember Dan the reason i aint been texting you back is i aint got no credit

[Buggo]

Without a doubt Phil Taylor deserves it, but I backed Haye at 25/1 before he pulled out of the Klit fight, so I'm rooting for Haye!!

[Heathen]

I cannot believe that you are all looking past Audley Harrison - did you not see Prizefighter? :rofl

[turpinr]

We all know this has nothing to do with personality . . .Nigel Mansell won it FFS. It's based on acheivement and since it is voted for by the public generally comes down to who got the most exposure whilst they did something special (making it seem even more special)(Although this doesn't really explain that royal horse woman that won!)

I think it will be a battle between Button and Haye. Normally the F1 guy would take it imo but Haye has drummed up a lot of publicity so has a good shout.:lol::lol::lol:there never was a sportsman with less personality

[Beeston Brawler]

As long as Button doesn't win it..... won't be that bothered.

I'd say Ennis deserves it most though...... I would stick my house on it not being a boxer though.

[turpinr]

As long as Button doesn't win it..... won't be that bothered.

I'd say Ennis deserves it most though...... I would stick my house on it not being a boxer though.i wouldn't argue with ennis winning it.
i'd even vote for a tennis player if one won wimbeldon,but not motor sports

[GazOC]

Same here. I'm not a fan of motor sports so as long as Button doesn't get it I'll be happy. As BB says theres not a chance a boxer gets it this year.

[turpinr]

i voted for beth tweddle when horse-chops won it.
all in vain.
it was fixed.

[GazOC]

Same here. Tweddle is a friend of a friend and that seemed as good a reason as any that year!!

[slip&counter]

no chance of Haye winning this.

Interesting to hear rumours that Haye vs Ruiz might be on terestrial, which would be great!

[icemax]

Tweddle needs to get her gnashers fixed, she scares the kids

[hit me HARDER]

Can it be shared? I mean, has it ever been shared?

If not, even though it is considered the biggest prize in Boxing, there's no way on Earth the BBC won't go with Jenson Button, especially since the BBC now shows F1.

[hit me HARDER]

Tweddle needs to get her gnashers fixed, she scares the kids

I've always wondered why she hasn't already, you actually can't tell if she's a good-looking kid or not, you're transfixed on the teeth.

[GazOC]

no chance of Haye winning this.

Interesting to hear rumours that Haye vs Ruiz might be on interestrial, which would be great!


Is that like that Fantastic Voyage film?

[hit me HARDER]

Is that like that Fantastic Voyage film?

I believe ITV are sending everyone a tinfoil hat for the switchover.

[slip&counter]

:lol: typo

[zico2010]

Ennis deserves it but im guessing it will go to Button.

[turpinr]

I've always wondered why she hasn't already, you actually can't tell if she's a good-looking kid or not, you're transfixed on the teeth.
there's nothing wrong with her teeth.she's just got to many:lol:

[hit me HARDER]

there's nothing wrong with her teeth.she's just got to many:lol:

Ahh yes, they're all perfectly formed, there's just twice the normal amount :lol:

[turpinr]

Ahh yes, they're all perfectly formed, there's just twice the normal amount :lol::lol:imagine the dental bill for filling 64 teeth

[rusticraver]

F1 is a lot to do with the driver. Look what Schumacher did at ferrari.. alonso at renault.

The feedback from the driver to the techs and the setting up of the car is very important. Button has essentially been with BAR/Brawn for YEARS developing with each other and they reaped their rewards.

that car was a BAR with a mercedes engine stuffed in it for christs sake!

[P4PNo.1]

Button deserves it this year but if Haye can beat one of the Klitschkos next year then he'd surely win it.

[BoroBoxing1]

Audley Harrison

[chatty]

i think itll be between ennis, button and flintoff

[slip&counter]

who gives a f#ck.

[Chud]

Haye was 33/1 before the fight but is now the third favourite behind Ennis and Button at 13/2

[KingCobra]

No offence but if you had to Google Ennis then you can't watch a great deal of sport.

She's a world champion, attractive and (most importantly) her achievements were televised on the BBC so they'll have all the highlight footage they want when it comes to the lead up to the program. What will they show of Haye?

Think Haye getting stopped by Carl Thompson was a beeb show :lol:

[KingCobra]

Haye was 33/1 before the fight but is now the third favourite behind Ennis and Button at 13/2


Worth a flutter. I'd never heard of the other two and there is something compelling about a man beating a giant.