David Haye vs John Ruiz, who will win and how? [Archive]

safc1990

11-08-2009, 01:32 PM

It's almost certain that Haye's first defence of his WBA Heavyweight Title will be against the ever crowd-pleasing John Ruiz. So who do you think will win and how? I think Haye will be far too quick for Ruiz to be wrestled and will stop him fairly early. I think will be like a heavyweight version of Pacquiao/Hatton with Ruiz getting iced.

Haye stoppage within 4. :bbb

curly

11-08-2009, 02:15 PM

Haye by ktfo

Mookhound

11-08-2009, 02:17 PM

Haye by a massive knockout, and I'm a rarity - I quite admire Ruiz for making so much out of his limited (at top level) ability.

Mazallan

11-08-2009, 02:20 PM

Haye by KTFO.

Max Molyneux

11-08-2009, 02:20 PM

Haye, but it may be tough if Ruiz still holds alot since Haye doesn't fight on the inside, plus he waits too long to throw punches and looks like he has hardly any workrate.

John18

11-08-2009, 04:28 PM

Haye to do a Tua on him.

OK, maybe not that quick, but i expect a crushing right hand KO.

TFFP

11-08-2009, 04:29 PM

Ruiz is such a tough guy Haye might have to break him down. I see it mid to late for Haye. The Tua thing has never happened before or since.

It's a semi-dangerous fight, kinda like Barrett was.

Beeston Brawler

11-08-2009, 04:32 PM

Haye on points.

I'm not a Ruiz fan by any means, but the Tua thing was a one-off - and let's face it, most HW's around that time wouldn't have gotten up either.

Flea Man

11-08-2009, 04:34 PM

Ruiz is such a tough guy Haye might have to break him down. I see it mid to late for Haye. The Tua thing has never happened before or since.

It's a semi-dangerous fight, kinda like Barrett was.

I agree 100%. ruizs chin is hanging out and he's totally different physically in the Tua fight. He's a totally different fighter now, probably to prevent that ever happening again. I think Haye can get to him though, again, although not a puncher I fear Ruiz can hurt Haye. But I reckon Hayes caginess, speed and movement would see him teeing up on Ruiz by the mid-to-late rounds. Fingers crossed.

JIM KELLY

11-08-2009, 04:47 PM

haye's quickness and power...ta ta ruiz..Zzzzzzz

TheUnstoppable

11-08-2009, 04:53 PM

Haye will be far more active and will land SO many more punches than he did on Valuev (obviously).

If Haye can stagger Valuev with a glancing blow, at that angle, with his weaker arm, then i'm pretty confident that Davids right hands will close the show within 6 rounds.

s23041983

11-08-2009, 05:07 PM

s23041983

11-08-2009, 05:09 PM

I agree 100%. ruizs chin is hanging out and he's totally different physically in the Tua fight. He's a totally different fighter now, probably to prevent that ever happening again. I think Haye can get to him though, again, although not a puncher I fear Ruiz can hurt Haye. But I reckon Hayes caginess, speed and movement would see him teeing up on Ruiz by the mid-to-late rounds. Fingers crossed.
i cant see ruiz landing anything significant on haye to be honest.

haye doesnt have to get close to knock you out!!

s23041983

11-08-2009, 05:11 PM

this is a perfect fight to make some numbers in the future!!

blowing away Ruiz in 3 rounds will definately wet the old tastebuds of boxingfans for a HAYE VS KLITSCHKO!!! :deal

BoroBoxing1

11-08-2009, 05:39 PM

Haye beats Ruiz all night long stopping him inside 6 rounds, it will be a good 1st defence for Haye because he was never going to look that good against Valuev... But with Ruiz i think he wont have to move so much and he could stand and trade with him or just make him look stupid plain simple and demolish him, either way Haye beats Ruiz.

Carnage

11-08-2009, 05:41 PM

If you say the Tua thing was a one off, most people would agree that Haye (could be) faster and stronger than him, so could be even worse.

DamonD

11-08-2009, 05:47 PM

Haye TKO.

I think he will absolutely relish fighting Ruiz.

Tua fight aside, Ruiz has proven to be pretty good at protecting himself from getting knocked out one way or another, but this will be like the RJJ fight all over again for him...expect now he's years older and the other guy punches harder.

Buggo

11-08-2009, 05:47 PM

Haye within 5 rounds

Flea Man

11-08-2009, 07:04 PM

I don't think Haye hits as hard as Tua. But Ruiz is getting on, Haye is fast and accurate, and if he keeps away from Ruiz with movement and catches him at angles I think he'll get him out of there in about seven. I'd prefer for him to box well for a while and take Ruiz out after picking away for a while. How tall is Ruiz? Cause Haye said recently je has trouble with shorter fighters, he's about the same height as Haye isn't he?

achillesthegreat

11-08-2009, 07:07 PM

ruiz is a genuinely terrible fighter. i expect haye to shine in front of his countrymen. ruiz will not be able to handle the speed like he did jones and toney...

...problem is...

...haye punches A WHOLE LOT HARDER!

Dan684

11-08-2009, 07:15 PM

Haye 6th round.

I actually dont mind Ruiz. Yeah he's limited and pretty boring at times but he's not a great boxer and has done very well for himslef despite this. If I was in there and was limited like him ( I AM :deal) then I would do the same thing. Haye will not blow him out either. Haye will have to spend around 5/6 rounds breaking him down and constantly unloading until Ruiz finally crumbles. Haye to win by Tko at or around the 7th

DLT

11-08-2009, 07:25 PM

harder than it looks on paper - could be scrappy - ruiz is a dirty dog. Haye by TKO ~ 7.

s23041983

11-08-2009, 10:05 PM

whose the ONE PERSON who voted Ruiz by TKO?? i demand to know!! :fire

slip&counter

11-08-2009, 10:44 PM

they MUST get this on terestrial.

DamonD

11-09-2009, 05:28 AM

How tall is Ruiz? Cause Haye said recently je has trouble with shorter fighters, he's about the same height as Haye isn't he?
I'm pretty sure Ruiz is about 6'2, so yes about the same.

I'm sure that Ruiz will basically look to try to rough Haye up and brawl, do the 'I'm a genuine heavyweight' routine which Barrett also tried with his shoulder charges and bull rushes.

It's a potentially perfect opponent for Haye to look good against. The only concern is if he gets dragged into a grapplefest instead, because absolutely no-one comes out of a Ruiz fight looking good that way.

KERRZO

11-09-2009, 07:41 AM

Haye within 6.

Larryboys

11-09-2009, 08:10 AM

ruiz is a genuinely terrible fighter

He's not. He's terrible to watch, but he knows how to work to his strengths, he can box, use his clinching tactics to make a fight difficult for near enough anybody, and has enough power to at least earn an opponents respect and stop them just walking straight through him. I still pick Haye to win, almost certainly by KO, but lets not get ahead or ourselves and assume beating Ruiz is some formaility. He's been hanging around near the top of the division for 10 years for a reason.

Benjiabc

11-09-2009, 08:37 AM

Haye is going to stop Ruiz, probably in the first 4 rounds

SeasideSlugger

11-09-2009, 09:16 AM

It looks the ideal fight for Haye to look good in, showboating all his skills and finishing him off in style around 6-8.

Cue Ruiz finding some holy hellish punch from nowhere to comatose Haye around the 7th! Then going on for another round robin with Valuev, Oleg and the corpse of Sven Ottke!

Hangman the noose please........

Flea Man

11-09-2009, 09:20 AM

He's not. He's terrible to watch, but he knows how to work to his strengths, he can box, use his clinching tactics to make a fight difficult for near enough anybody, and has enough power to at least earn an opponents respect and stop them just walking straight through him. I still pick Haye to win, almost certainly by KO, but lets not get ahead or ourselves and assume beating Ruiz is some formaility. He's been hanging around near the top of the division for 10 years for a reason.

This:deal

rusticraver

11-09-2009, 09:24 AM

Tua is a one punch fighter, Haye damages Ruiz with either hand punching straight or hooking imo

Flea Man

11-09-2009, 09:27 AM

Tua is a one punch fighter, Haye damages Ruiz with either hand punching straight or hooking imo

Tua has power in both hand. His left hook is better, but then Haye's right is better than his left.

Vantage_West

11-09-2009, 01:46 PM

tua can do some damage with the right hand but it's the left hook which does the work.

anyways. yeah haye should win this. but i havnt seen him agaisnt anyone like ruiz...lets remember as bad as ruiz is he isnt a walk over. he is wiley as hell and is tough. jones won due to not engaging with him at all. and he has beat some decent names in his career.

it could be a dangerous fight if haye gets caught up in knocking him out

robpalmer135

11-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Haye highlight reel KO

JonOli

11-16-2009, 12:46 AM

Ruiz 4/1

Haye 1/4

TFFP

11-16-2009, 12:49 AM

Ruiz is more of a threat than people think. Getting an early KO isn't as easy as it looks, Ruiz is a smart fighter. Y'all just think he's gonna stick his chin out and get Tua'd again?

He's been competetive at the top level for many years without a large armoury so he knows how to make things work for him. He's always in good shape, he's smart and he's tough.

Davro

11-16-2009, 01:09 AM

he's mediocre. and right in the firing line.

there's nothing other than a Haye KO here.

Ilesey

11-16-2009, 01:58 AM

Haye by stoppage in 8 or 9 in an ugly fight. It's hard to look good against him unless you are Tua.

beecho1988

11-16-2009, 03:23 AM

Haye KO

mrbassie

11-16-2009, 05:52 AM

I agree 100%. ruizs chin is hanging out and he's totally different physically in the Tua fight. He's a totally different fighter now, probably to prevent that ever happening again. I think Haye can get to him though, again, although not a puncher I fear Ruiz can hurt Haye. But I reckon Hayes caginess, speed and movement would see him teeing up on Ruiz by the mid-to-late rounds. Fingers crossed.

Ruiz is a respectable puncher, I can see him putting Haye on his arse too. I expect Haye to stop him early before the half way mark though, Ruiz is anthing but hard to hit.