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Mrvooh
09-23-2007, 02:44 PM
a Calzaghe vs Lacy fight ?? I mean, lacy was the puncher, as is Kelly...Joe was the boxer, as is Taylor ??
Hmmmmmmm:think :think

JAM Killer
09-23-2007, 02:46 PM
Calling Taylor a boxer is a huge stretch. Pavlik is the boxer puncher, and Taylor is the bull with the experience, and both have youth. This is going to be a great fight, it has to be.

sues2nd
09-23-2007, 02:50 PM
Calling Taylor a boxer is a huge stretch. Pavlik is the boxer puncher, and Taylor is the bull with the experience, and both have youth. This is going to be a great fight, it has to be.

Its not a huge stretch, tho it is a stretch. Taylor has a TREMENDOUS jab and great footwork.

I think the original poster meant that Taylor is much more fundamentally sound...and Pavlik is more of the fighter that would tend to get into a brawl.

I also believe this will be a good fight, tho I believe Taylor will win UD.

Mrvooh
09-23-2007, 02:57 PM
Its not a huge stretch, tho it is a stretch. Taylor has a TREMENDOUS jab and great footwork.

I think the original poster meant that Taylor is much more fundamentally sound...and Pavlik is more of the fighter that would tend to get into a brawl.

I also believe this will be a good fight, tho I believe Taylor will win UD. Yup, that's what i meant, thanks Sues2nd :hi:

sues2nd
09-23-2007, 02:57 PM
Yup, that's what i meant, thanks Sues2nd :hi:

:good

brooklyn1550
09-23-2007, 03:28 PM
No, it does not.

punchdynamo
09-23-2007, 04:32 PM
For all the fundamentals that Taylor has, it's suprising that Steward would focus on "getting back to the basics" for training camp. From watching the Taylor/Pavlik build-up on HBO, Taylor has a huge chip on his shoulder from his own backyard calling him out. And I have a feeling he's going to throw boxing out the door once he gets hit with a big shot or land one on Pavlik that has an effect.

BIGTIMETIMMY
09-23-2007, 05:24 PM
I think its Going to Be more of a Hagler Hearns

Sug3
09-23-2007, 05:33 PM
This fight reminds me of corrales vs mayweather,with everybody expecting the brawler with devastating punching power to knock out the more experienced and talented fighter.Taylors experience,overall speed and skills will be the difference in this fight.

brooklyn1550
09-23-2007, 05:51 PM
This fight reminds me of corrales vs mayweather,with everybody expecting the brawler with devastating punching power to knock out the more experienced and talented fighter.Taylors experience,overall speed and skills will be the difference in this fight.

I promise you that it wont be Corrales-Mayweather. Taylor doesn't have the footwork, counter-punching ability, or the lightning-fast speed to do to Pavlik what Mayweather did to Corrales.

o_money
09-23-2007, 06:00 PM
I think its Going to Be more of a Hagler Hearns

I think that this is probably the better annalogy.

Just watched the Miranda Pavlik fight last night and had that one ended early in the third as well that fight would have been a pretty close copy of hagler hearns.

sues2nd
09-23-2007, 06:03 PM
I promise you that it wont be Corrales-Mayweather. Taylor doesn't have the footwork, counter-punching ability, or the lightning-fast speed to do to Pavlik what Mayweather did to Corrales.

Tho I agree that this will probably look nothing like Chico - PBF, but I cant agree on the fact that Taylor lacks good footwork.

I always felt (even through the fights where Jermaine struggled) that his footwork is phenominal. Think about it, even when backing up (or getting backed up) he never puts himself in position to be off balance or tripped up. Also, when throwing punches, he uses his feet tremendously to get full leverage on everything.

I think, if anything, its upper body movement (or lack thereof) that tend to get Jermaine into more trouble then naught. He leans in waaaay too much. It looks like they have worked on this for the Pavlik fight, which is good, because if he leans too far into one of those BIG right hands, my prediction just may be wrong.....











It wont be tho.....Taylor UD.

brooklyn1550
09-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Tho I agree that this will probably look nothing like Chico - PBF, but I cant agree on the fact that Taylor lacks good footwork.

I always felt (even through the fights where Jermaine struggled) that his footwork is phenominal. Think about it, even when backing up (or getting backed up) he never puts himself in position to be off balance or tripped up. Also, when throwing punches, he uses his feet tremendously to get full leverage on everything.

I think, if anything, its upper body movement (or lack thereof) that tend to get Jermaine into more trouble then naught. He leans in waaaay too much. It looks like they have worked on this for the Pavlik fight, which is good, because if he leans too far into one of those BIG right hands, my prediction just may be wrong.....











It wont be tho.....Taylor UD.

Oh, I agree with you about footwork - he has good footwork, just not to the level of Floyd Mayweather.

Zakman
09-23-2007, 06:12 PM
I think its Going to Be more of a Hagler Hearns

Yep. With Taylor playing the part of Tommy. :yep

brooklyn1550
09-23-2007, 06:15 PM
Yep. With Taylor playing the part of Tommy. :yep

That would be wild if Taylor-Pavlik became this generation's Hagler-Hearns and Taylor played the part of Hearns because it would stay consistent that Manny was in both of their corners.

However, I don't expect it to be a brutal slugfest quite like that.

Zakman
09-23-2007, 06:28 PM
Hope you're getting ready to wear the avatar for six months, Zakman. I'm not going to be kind to you either.

6 months?? These bets are all for 1 month! Of course, I do have bets with several different posters, so I'll be sporting Taylor avatars for awhile in the unlikely event he wins.

Lemme tell you this - another frikkin' gift decision and forgetabowtit. :yep

Sug3
09-23-2007, 06:35 PM
I heard winky wright wants the winner.

sues2nd
09-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Oh, I agree with you about footwork - he has good footwork, just not to the level of Floyd Mayweather.

I can agree with that....

:good