Shane Cameron

[Grebfan9]

Does Shane Cameron have the skills to climb the heavyweight
ladder?

[Marcus]

yes

[maco_187]

hard to say needs to be tested more then just against mirovic.... but i think he could do ok...

[MSTR]

yes
No. No way. He is too small to compete with the bigger guys, and he doesn't have the technical ability to trouble any of the guys within the top 5. He is a smaller guy who has muscled up to really be a true heavy. When he fights a naturally bigger guy, his power will be diminished and he will most probably be giving away some height/weight. Anyone with around 20 fights behind them, who was going to be a top contender in the world rankings would have been more dominant against Big Bob. For instance, Danny Williams, Kali Meehan and Matt Skelton all knocked out Bob in 4. Sanil Sam shut me out on the scorecards also, where as Bob was winning rounds agaisnt Cameron.

[Dr Gonzo]

Cant see him ever winning a belt but he would trouble a few decent heavies out there. Id love to see him take on Arreola or one of the other young guns

[Marcus]

No. No way. He is too small to compete with the bigger guys, and he doesn't have the technical ability to trouble any of the guys within the top 5. He is a smaller guy who has muscled up to really be a true heavy. When he fights a naturally bigger guy, his power will be diminished and he will most probably be giving away some height/weight. Anyone with around 20 fights behind them, who was going to be a top contender in the world rankings would have been more dominant against Big Bob. For instance, Danny Williams, Kali Meehan and Matt Skelton all knocked out Bob in 4. Sanil Sam shut me out on the scorecards also, where as Bob was winning rounds agaisnt Cameron.

Fuck your a hard to please cunt sometimes!!

He destroyed Bob in round 7 mate!!!!

Holifield and Tua both dont wanna risk a fight with him.

[MSTR]

Fuck your a hard to please cunt sometimes!!

He destroyed Bob in round 7 mate!!!!

Holifield and Tua both dont wanna risk a fight with him.
Just being honest. I hardly think Holyfield is scared of Cameron mate that is fucking ridiculous. Holyfield has been in with every great heavy of the past 10 years just about. As if he is scared to fight Cameron. Same with Tua. He fought Lennox Lewis but is scared to fight Cameron? Cameron just doesn't really have anything to offer these guys at the moment. They are looking to fight guys higher in the rankings to get a shot at the title. David Tua is the number 10 contender in the WBC rankings. Why the hell would he want to fight Cameron for? Its not like he is brining a lot of money to the table.

[MSTR]

Fuck your a hard to please cunt sometimes!!

He destroyed Bob in round 7 mate!!!!

Holifield and Tua both dont wanna risk a fight with him.
BTW, his performace against Bob was okay, but we are comparing him to the best in the world here. So I pointed out that even the contenders like Skeleton, Meehan and Williams had him out in 4. The better guys that didn't KO him won every round. Against Cameron, Bob was pretty competitive, which at 41, shouldn't have been happening if Cameron was going to be a real force in the division.

[Dr Gonzo]

BTW, his performace against Bob was okay, but we are comparing him to the best in the world here. So I pointed out that even the contenders like Skeleton, Meehan and Williams had him out in 4. The better guys that didn't KO him won every round. Against Cameron, Bob was pretty competitive, which at 41, shouldn't have been happening if Cameron was going to be a real force in the division.

:rofl LMAO at Skeleton :lol:

Your right though - if he was going to make waves he should have been able to drop Mirovic alot quicker than he did. How do you think he would go against de Mori? Interesting match up perhaps? :think

[MSTR]

:rofl LMAO at Skeleton :lol:

Your right though - if he was going to make waves he should have been able to drop Mirovic alot quicker than he did. How do you think he would go against de Mori? Interesting match up perhaps? :think
hahah sorry to "bobby" but I would pick Cameron at this point. Both are very similar as fighters though. Cameron just being that level above IMO. BTW Skelton was just a typo... was that what you were laughing about, or the fact that he ko'd bob in 4?

[Kegsy]

Cameron is fairly good, but i fear he is too small against the elite heavyweights,

[Dr Gonzo]

hahah sorry to "bobby" but I would pick Cameron at this point. Both are very similar as fighters though. Cameron just being that level above IMO. BTW Skelton was just a typo... was that what you were laughing about, or the fact that he ko'd bob in 4?

no, no - just the typo :lol:

[Marcus]

Just being honest. I hardly think Holyfield is scared of Cameron mate that is fucking ridiculous. Holyfield has been in with every great heavy of the past 10 years just about. As if he is scared to fight Cameron. Same with Tua. He fought Lennox Lewis but is scared to fight Cameron? Cameron just doesn't really have anything to offer these guys at the moment. They are looking to fight guys higher in the rankings to get a shot at the title. David Tua is the number 10 contender in the WBC rankings. Why the hell would he want to fight Cameron for? Its not like he is brining a lot of money to the table.

I didnt say they were scared MSTR.

But they were both offered fights and turned them down,unlike the last guys Tua and Holifield fought who were stiffs.

[MSTR]

I didnt say they were scared MSTR.

But they were both offered fights and turned them down,unlike the last guys Tua and Holifield fought who were stiffs.
Its just a higher risk, low reward fight for them. If they are going to take a risk, their needs to be a gain in it. Tua and Holy are going to either be fighting top guys, or guys they can look good against. Cameron at this point represents neither of the two. In terms of opposition, holyfields recent opposition have been more experienced and bigger names then Cameron anyway. Cameron really is a complete nobody internationally at this point. Maybe down the track Tua might fight him because it will be massive in NZ, but at this point i doubt it. Tua would be more concerned with some easy come back fights before taking on a ranked contender.

[Marcus]

God MSTR its monday, i cant come back at you with any decent comments :D

[MSTR]

God MSTR its monday, i cant come back at you with any decent comments :D
hahaha its all good mate. How was your weekend? I got fucked up on Sunday night and almost broke my leg. Walking around like a pirate at the moment, with an ankle thats twice the size. Alcohol and I don't mix. I ended up throwing my shoes at my mates and went up to one and spat bourbon all over him for no reason. I had a root all teed up to and blew it by getting spastic as per usual. By the end I was rolling around on the floor wrestling my best mate and trying to DDT him. Most drunk I have been in a LONG time.

[dakota prince]

one dimensional, cuts easy, gassed up Internationally hasnt got a chance!
HOW IS HE ON DIMENSIONAL.
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dakota prince]

Shane Cameron is definately going to be top 5 in the world next year.
He has more skill than any top heavyweight at the moment.
He fights exactly like Tommy Morrison and look what he did in the heavyweight division.
Size doesn't matter when you have skill

[Marcus]

hahaha its all good mate. How was your weekend? I got fucked up on Sunday night and almost broke my leg. Walking around like a pirate at the moment, with an ankle thats twice the size. Alcohol and I don't mix. I ended up throwing my shoes at my mates and went up to one and spat bourbon all over him for no reason. I had a root all teed up to and blew it by getting spastic as per usual. By the end I was rolling around on the floor wrestling my best mate and trying to DDT him. Most drunk I have been in a LONG time.

:lol: :lol: you crack me up mate!! Thats so funny!! Does your mate forgive you? Every time i try a DDT the guys end up in full mount....not a good move.

SO did you just fall over or down something? Did you chuck up lots??

Mine was ok, i broke up with my chick again, on friday. Im sick of her, i got a new one lined up, she seams nice, so i better do some extra sit-ups :lol: :lol:

I hung around my house, doin some jobs,i had a good weekend, semi-off the smoke.

[Marcus]

Shane Cameron is definately going to be top 5 in the world next year.
He has more skill than any top heavyweight at the moment.
He fights exactly like Tommy Morrison and look what he did in the heavyweight division.
Size doesn't matter when you have skill

So you fuck sheep also??

[Kegsy]

hahaha its all good mate. How was your weekend? I got fucked up on Sunday night and almost broke my leg. Walking around like a pirate at the moment, with an ankle thats twice the size. Alcohol and I don't mix. I ended up throwing my shoes at my mates and went up to one and spat bourbon all over him for no reason. I had a root all teed up to and blew it by getting spastic as per usual. By the end I was rolling around on the floor wrestling my best mate and trying to DDT him. Most drunk I have been in a LONG time.:rofl:rofl

[MSTR]

Shane Cameron is definately going to be top 5 in the world next year.
He has more skill than any top heavyweight at the moment.
He fights exactly like Tommy Morrison and look what he did in the heavyweight division.
Size doesn't matter when you have skill
Tommy Morrison and Cameron aren't even comparable. Morrison was one of the hardest hitters the division has seen in the past fifteen years. Style wise, Morrison was a loaded puncher, who is just all round better then Cameron, apart from his chin. Cameron has done nothing, and may make top five in the WBO, or IBO, but none of the 3 major sanctioning bodies will have him in the top 5. The first time he steps up he will get beaten.

[Kegsy]

Tommy Morrison and Cameron aren't even comparable. Morrison was one of the hardest hitters the division has seen in the past fifteen years. Style wise, Morrison was a loaded puncher, who is just all round better then Cameron, apart from his chin. Cameron has done nothing, and may make top five in the WBO, or IBO, but none of the 3 major sanctioning bodies will have him in the top 5. The first time he steps up he will get beaten.Cameron should try & get a fight with a gatekeeper like Dominick Guinn or someone similar in the next 6 months.

[MSTR]

:lol: :lol: you crack me up mate!! Thats so funny!! Does your mate forgive you? Every time i try a DDT the guys end up in full mount....not a good move.

SO did you just fall over or down something? Did you chuck up lots??

Mine was ok, i broke up with my chick again, on friday. Im sick of her, i got a new one lined up, she seams nice, so i better do some extra sit-ups :lol: :lol:

I hung around my house, doin some jobs,i had a good weekend, semi-off the smoke.
Nah did my ankle dancing actually. My chick friends were telling these other girls what a good dancer I am, so I got up and tried to show off. I was killing it at first and then tried to a double spin absolutely plastered and tripped over the couch and snapped my ankle and landed on my face. It made a sickening crunch and it hurt like f*ck. Whenever I am drunk I act like I am invincible as well, so i got up and pretended it didn't hurt and kept dancing on it. Swollen like a balloon at the moment. Copped heaps of shit of course. My mates are all good they were pretty much legless as well. The unit was pretty much trashed but :( This slut that was over was letting me grab her tits too. Her best friend had a new boob job so i had a feel of those, and then the other chick who had good naturals started saying hers were shit. I offered to give her a second opinion and she let me :). She was keen as, until I started going WWE with my mates, which must have been a bit of a turn off hahaha.

[MSTR]

It makes more sense for Cameron to try to drop pounds and get into the Cruiserweight division for me.

He's a hard hitter, he's relatively good with movement, seems to keep his head when he's under pressure but against the top guys, he'll get wrecked.
Agreed. At cruiser he could be a real force, in what is a relatively weak division anyway. He would have to lose some of that muscle though.

[Marcus]

Ah MSRT thats funny :rofl :rofl

Make sure you havent broken something mate.

Gee all these tales of chicks with new tits letting you feel is great!! but .......... :pics

I have a pic of this new chick im chasing, ill try and pic the pic today.

[MSTR]

Ah MSRT thats funny :rofl :rofl

Make sure you havent broken something mate.

Gee all these tales of chicks with new tits letting you feel is great!! but .......... :pics

I have a pic of this new chick im chasing, ill try and pic the pic today.
My mate got heaps of pics, so when i get them off him i will post em up.

[Dr Gonzo]

Ah MSRT thats funny :rofl :rofl

Make sure you havent broken something mate.

Gee all these tales of chicks with new tits letting you feel is great!! but .......... :pics

I have a pic of this new chick im chasing, ill try and pic the pic today.

post the pic and let dr banker be the judge :hey

[Marcus]

post the pic and let dr banker be the judge :hey

stupido computio, hasnt got bluetooth, ill bring the cord in from home tomorrow

[Dr Gonzo]

jesus arreola is an ugly mother fucker hahaha

[Marcus]

jesus arreola is an ugly mother fucker hahaha

PRICK!!!!

well you wont show us ya face, so im thinkin you look like a sack full of assholes :hey

[Dr Gonzo]

PRICK!!!!

well you wont show us ya face, so im thinkin you look like a sack full of assholes :hey

:lol: im one handsome devil

[Marcus]

:lol: im one handsome devil

I really dont give a shit, but im sure your like me and just wanna check out this Melissa chick :hey

[Dr Gonzo]

I really dont give a shit, but im sure your like me and just wanna check out this Melissa chick :hey

yeah for sure - Melissa we demand a pic :twisted:

[MSTR]

I really dont give a shit, but im sure your like me and just wanna check out this Melissa chick :hey
Word is she is a kiwi, and a souths supporter as well!!

[Dr Gonzo]

Word is she is a kiwi, and a souths supporter as well!!

she is too smart to be a teke alias :lol:

[Marcus]

She might look like tekes old girlfriend, the avatar pic he had :lol:

[Dr Gonzo]

She might look like tekes old girlfriend, the avatar pic he had :lol:

god that avatar was awful - snaggle toothed hoe

[Bobby]

i spent a month as camerons sparring p[artner last year, he is strong fit and determined, if he is matched right he can do well, but against roger izon his face was cut up really bad, btw mirovic fight he broke his hand in the first so he wasnt 100%

[Dr Gonzo]

i spent a month as camerons sparring p[artner last year, he is strong fit and determined, if he is matched right he can do well, but against roger izon his face was cut up really bad, btw mirovic fight he broke his hand in the first so he wasnt 100%

how do you think you would fare against him mate?

[MSTR]

i spent a month as camerons sparring p[artner last year, he is strong fit and determined, if he is matched right he can do well, but against roger izon his face was cut up really bad, btw mirovic fight he broke his hand in the first so he wasnt 100%
How hard do you guys go in sparring sessions like this?

[CarltonBlues]

How many heavys out there could dominate and then knock out Mirovic without the use of their right hand? I think he would beat Kali and Tua.

[ipswich express]

Truth be told, Mirovic took the fight on about 4 weeks notice when completely out of shape. I'd love to see a rematch between the two with a fair amount of notice. Would be a great main event on a Fox card. Good luck to Shane, but can't see him beating a world class heavy.

[Bobby]

i think in a rematch cameron would stop mirovic early without the broken hand, boxing bANKER, MSTR, THERE IS a vid of us sparring someone put up on youtube, note i had no coach and was training myself at the time

[ozziebattler]

Tommy Morrison and Cameron aren't even comparable. Morrison was one of the hardest hitters the division has seen in the past fifteen years. Style wise, Morrison was a loaded puncher, who is just all round better then Cameron, apart from his chin. Cameron has done nothing, and may make top five in the WBO, or IBO, but none of the 3 major sanctioning bodies will have him in the top 5. The first time he steps up he will get beaten.

Agree with you on that post...Only real comparison between the two is their skin colour...

I know people are waiting for the great white hope but with Cameron we dont have one...Sorry fellas aint gunna happen..

Morrison could bang...I was watching a few clips on youtube..Fuck he was underrated i feel..H.I.V at 26 fucked him up.

I spoke to a bloke who used to bounce at a few clubs around tommy's way,said his partying made mike tyson look like a buddhist monk.

Said he was known to shag up to 5 women at once in vip areas throughout clubs..

Talk about Tommy Gunn...

I also remembering reading upon Tommys H.I.V positive test results that tommy claimed to of shagged over 2000women..All this by 26...

Fuck wish i had a lefthook like his,imagine the broads i could bang.:hey

[maco_187]

2000 women fukkkkknnn luckyyy bastardd, im 19 i reckon ive hit 20-25 max.... at that rate ill need to be 90 lol

[ozziebattler]

Tommy must of hit them as hard as his left hook...

All by the age of 26.lucky prick..

[teke]

Cameron would fair well against majority of heavyweights that i have seen today bar the few top ones. He has skill and looks to be quite strong. Size doesnt really matter if you courage and desire to use that skill.

Cameron is a good fighter.

[MSTR]

i think in a rematch cameron would stop mirovic early without the broken hand, boxing bANKER, MSTR, THERE IS a vid of us sparring someone put up on youtube, note i had no coach and was training myself at the time
Awesome. I'll have a look on the weekend. How did you find sparring him? Was he the biggest puncher that you have been in with? Did you feel pretty comfortable?

[MSTR]

Agree with you on that post...Only real comparison between the two is their skin colour...

I know people are waiting for the great white hope but with Cameron we dont have one...Sorry fellas aint gunna happen..

Morrison could bang...I was watching a few clips on youtube..Fuck he was underrated i feel..H.I.V at 26 fucked him up.

I spoke to a bloke who used to bounce at a few clubs around tommy's way,said his partying made mike tyson look like a buddhist monk.

Said he was known to shag up to 5 women at once in vip areas throughout clubs..

Talk about Tommy Gunn...

I also remembering reading upon Tommys H.I.V positive test results that tommy claimed to of shagged over 2000women..All this by 26...

Fuck wish i had a lefthook like his,imagine the broads i could bang.:hey
Tommy Gun was a very good fighter, and probably would have been a great one if it weren't for his china chin. Thats an absolute tonne of girls mate. Groupies would be fucking awesome.

[Bobby]

mstr, shane was very strong, but roger izonrieti isthe hardest puncher ive sparred, includes kali meehan

[Kegsy]

Yeah every time i seen Roger Izonritei fight i thought he had massive power.

[Marcus]

i think in a rematch cameron would stop mirovic early without the broken hand, boxing bANKER, MSTR, THERE IS a vid of us sparring someone put up on youtube, note i had no coach and was training myself at the time

I had a look, you did good mate :good

What was your weight then, compared to now Bobby?

[Bobby]

marcus, weighed in 105.5 for the fight i had there the week after the sparring, everyone comments on me looking smaller than mormal, last time i wear a baggy shirt ;) i weigh between 104 and 109 usually

[Marcus]

marcus, weighed in 105.5 for the fight i had there the week after the sparring, everyone comments on me looking smaller than mormal, last time i wear a baggy shirt ;) i weigh between 104 and 109 usually

I didnt think you looked small, just Cameron looked huge in a tank top.

[ozziebattler]

Tommy Gun was a very good fighter, and probably would have been a great one if it weren't for his china chin. Thats an absolute tonne of girls mate. Groupies would be fucking awesome.

Why do you think his chin was so dodgy??

He didnt lack in heart and aggression...I remember the hipp fight where he fought with a broken jaw and broken hand..

He would take a awesome shot than get dropped by a weaker one..

strange..

[MSTR]

Why do you think his chin was so dodgy??

He didnt lack in heart and aggression...I remember the hipp fight where he fought with a broken jaw and broken hand..

He would take a awesome shot than get dropped by a weaker one..

strange..
He got dropped multiple times against Williams. Same against Hipp. Got startched by Michael Bent (spelling) with a pretty crappy shot IMO. Got KTFO by Mercer and Lewis. A couple other fights I saw him go down from memory. His chin was pretty crappy.

[WhataRock]

Morrison definetly had the kind of chin that could betray him against sometimes even lesser fighters.

[ozziebattler]

Morrison definetly had the kind of chin that could betray him against sometimes even lesser fighters.

It was real ashame though because i felt he had all the tools to be great....

Or atleast a lot better than he was..

Fuck what a left hook...It was ridiculous..:bbb

[WhataRock]

Morrison had awesome offensive skills but if you look at the most dominant heavies of the last 30 years or so, most had great defensive capabilities and Morrison did not. Wlad, Lewis, Ali, Holmes, among others.
Nor did he have the intimidation ability and fearsome attack that Tyson had. Plus Tyson had a better chin and good head movement to allow him to be on the attack all the time.

Thing is with fighters like Morrison is that they are easy to get excited about because they are so offensive minded and produce kos. But history has shown you need more than that to become great.

[Dekkers]

Just being honest. I hardly think Holyfield is scared of Cameron mate that is fucking ridiculous. Holyfield has been in with every great heavy of the past 10 years just about. As if he is scared to fight Cameron. Same with Tua. He fought Lennox Lewis but is scared to fight Cameron?
I don't think Tua or Holyfield are necessarily scared of Cameron, but I think both want/wanted easier rides to title shots, like Rahman and Briggs. I think they're milking whatver is left of their names casual appeal (much like Moorer and Mesi), to get to the top and bypasssing stiffer challenges, like the one Cameron represents. Cameron would I suspect be very competitive with Holyfield at this stage of their careers, ditto with Tua, I don't think fighters like Holyfield and Tua are really serious players anymore... I think i'll go out on a limb and pick Ibragimov to stop Holyfield late (though in fairness to Holyfield he's still dangerous in early portions of this fight due to the question marks surrounding Sultans' chin... maybe some ealy trouble, but Sultan should just be too sharp for Holyfield whos reflexes in defence look poor).

[Dekkers]

Morrison had awesome offensive skills but if you look at the most dominant heavies of the last 30 years or so, most had great defensive capabilities and Morrison did not. Wlad, Lewis, Ali, Holmes, among others.
Nor did he have the intimidation ability and fearsome attack that Tyson had. Plus Tyson had a better chin and good head movement to allow him to be on the attack all the time.

Just a small point of contention there, I wouldn't describe Wlad as a great defensive fighter... he's tall, has a great, long jab, moves well, and clinches well. While this is imposing, and present problems, compared to Lewis his defence is lacking, Lewis was a solid defensive infighter (Wlad only holds inside), Wlad also has very little head and upper body movement (Lewis had decent head/upper body movent for a big man), I think mentally Lewis handles pressure better as well, Wlad has improved massivley in this area but I still see him pause a bit when under fire (he used to completely turn away and flail when he was younger though, huge improvement from those days).

I think he's a good champion, who could beat some great fighters (and perhaps lose to fighters ranked below him) due to the way styles match up... I think he has defensive holes that'll show against fast and explosive punchers, especially if they've got solid tools to break down the distance, whether it be excellent foot work, reach, and or explosive handspeed (types of fighters the division doesn't really possess atm). Or fighters who are just tough and skilled enough to get to him and break him down over rounds (prime Mercer, Ibeabuchi).

[WhataRock]

Wlad's defense compared to Morrison was the only point I was trying to make.

Time will tell, Wlad is dominating at the moment.

[Dekkers]

Wlad's defense compared to Morrison was the only point I was trying to make.

Time will tell, Wlad is dominating at the moment.

I'm not saying Wlad can't be an ATG (he's got plenty of other things to work with, and he'll probably be spending a fair while longer at the top so he atleast looks like a lock for the HOF), i'm just saying that unless his defence gains another dimension I wouldn't really think of it as great (whilst no question superior to Morrisons), Wlad imo isn't a name that deserves to be put next to Lewis and Tyson when talking about great defences.

[MSTR]

I don't think Tua or Holyfield are necessarily scared of Cameron, but I think both want/wanted easier rides to title shots, like Rahman and Briggs. I think they're milking whatver is left of their names casual appeal (much like Moorer and Mesi), to get to the top and bypasssing stiffer challenges, like the one Cameron represents. Cameron would I suspect be very competitive with Holyfield at this stage of their careers, ditto with Tua, I don't think fighters like Holyfield and Tua are really serious players anymore... I think i'll go out on a limb and pick Ibragimov to stop Holyfield late (though in fairness to Holyfield he's still dangerous in early portions of this fight due to the question marks surrounding Sultans' chin... maybe some ealy trouble, but Sultan should just be too sharp for Holyfield whos reflexes in defence look poor).
Good post, but if you read my other posts after this one I stated pretty much the exact same thing.

[Dekkers]

Good post, but if you read my other posts after this one I stated pretty much the exact same thing.

Yep, we're definitely in agreement about this whole 'scared' thing, though I think you're a little more generous regarding the quality of Holys opposition than I am. Saw the Fres Oquendo fight for example and Fres looked terrible (fair bit worse than usual)... and I still thought Fres won :lol:

I think you see as Cameron on the same level as some of Holys' current opp, I see him giving Holy life and death :!:

[MSTR]

Yep, we're definitely in agreement about this whole 'scared' thing, though I think you're a little more generous regarding the quality of Holys opposition than I am. Saw the Fres Oquendo fight for example and Fres looked terrible (fair bit worse than usual)... and I still thought Fres won :lol:

I think you see as Cameron on the same level as some of Holys' current opp, I see him giving Holy life and death :!:
Nah I probably agree with you there. Holys recent opposition has been okay name and experience wise, but that doesn't necessarily make them better then Cameron. A young, undefeated and hungry fighter is going to be the tougher fight most probably, although it will be hard to tell just how good Cameron really is until he takes a true step up in class.

[Dekkers]

Nah I probably agree with you there. Holys recent opposition has been okay name and experience wise, but that doesn't necessarily make them better then Cameron. A young, undefeated and hungry fighter is going to be the tougher fight most probably, although it will be hard to tell just how good Cameron really is until he takes a true step up in class.

What the hell ?! :nonono We're agreeing again ... you alright mate, heard you broke your leg, not running a fever or anything are you :blood

[MSTR]

What the hell ?! :nonono We're agreeing again ... you alright mate, heard you broke your leg, not running a fever or anything are you :blood
hahaha. No fever mate fortunately. What your saying is definitely right. It sucks that boxing is so political, because guys like Cameron should be getting a shot, instead of some of the old war horses. I heard that Moorer might be getting another shot at the title. That would be dreadful. I saw him in a recent comeback fight and he was horribly over weight and fought like crap. Kind of shows you the depth in the heavy weight division at the moment.

[Dekkers]

hahaha. No fever mate fortunately. What your saying is definitely right. It sucks that boxing is so political, because guys like Cameron should be getting a shot, instead of some of the old war horses. I heard that Moorer might be getting another shot at the title. That would be dreadful. I saw him in a recent comeback fight and he was horribly over weight and fought like crap. Kind of shows you the depth in the heavy weight division at the moment.

Not to worry, when these guys start getting around on walking frames and electric wheelchairs (only a couple more years really) more deserving fighters will start getting into the mix :!:

[LeonMcS]

Pretty sure I read not too long ago that Morrison is on the comeback stage claiming to be CLEAR of HIV. I know thats a medical marvel but some tests done indicate that this is true. If so, he may have been mis-diagnosed all those years ago. Seems a pretty flaky story, think it was in Alpha magazine only an issue or two ago.

Saw the Cameron-Mirovic fight on the Mundine-Soliman card, remember Shane breaking his hand in the first round and being very impressed that he wore down Bob then ko'd him. Who knows, with the right training and backup he could go places, definetely no questions about his heart.

How many bloody Heavyweights are coming out of retirement lately? Moorer, Mercer, McCall still going, Holyfield...good for someone like me who hasn't followed the scene closely for a few years, suddenly I know all about the Heavys again!

[ozziebattler]

Pretty sure I read not too long ago that Morrison is on the comeback stage claiming to be CLEAR of HIV. I know thats a medical marvel but some tests done indicate that this is true. If so, he may have been mis-diagnosed all those years ago. Seems a pretty flaky story, think it was in Alpha magazine only an issue or two ago.

Saw the Cameron-Mirovic fight on the Mundine-Soliman card, remember Shane breaking his hand in the first round and being very impressed that he wore down Bob then ko'd him. Who knows, with the right training and backup he could go places, definetely no questions about his heart.

How many bloody Heavyweights are coming out of retirement lately? Moorer, Mercer, McCall still going, Holyfield...good for someone like me who hasn't followed the scene closely for a few years, suddenly I know all about the Heavys again!

Yeah man morrison is back fighting..He won by 2nd rd ko against some bum.He was getting dominated abit until he landed his left hook.

Morrisons life is one strange story.Hiv diagnoses(spelling) cost him 20million dollar fight with Tyson...

I know thats a huge figure but got to remember people back in 96 would of paid shitloads to watch those 2 fight.most people believed tyson was still the man back then.I DID..LOL.

Fuck i miss the 90's,there were some top heavyweight around than..

How much you reckon the top heavyweights get paid these days..

I remember tyson saying he made more millionaires then the lotto.

Cant see the heavyweights these days being worth much...:tired

[Bobby]

tommy morrison is one of my all time favs, i have every fight i could get of his, fav being the one against joe hipp, what a war, he was fed some bums but had huge heaqrt when in over his head. i have a vid called tommy morrison story done by bill cayton similar to mike tyson the right stuff, sa promo tape, some olf the guys he beat, man they looked like lightheavyweight kkk members that learnt to box the day before, butwhenhimo, his win over stewpped up he was world class in all areas but stamin

[Bobby]

btw his win over foreman was easily his smartest and most complete performance i think,

[LeonMcS]

Wouldn't mind seeing the Hipp fight, actually have some Morrison fights due any day in the post. That ko he suffered from Mercer was brutal, but when I started reading about his record again, I'd forgotten he beat guys like Razor Ruddock!

Interesting that he has fought again, surely that means health wise hes ok. Very strange story there.

The 90s seemed to have more legit contenders at some stages, not up with the current crop yet but yeah, if all these old fellas are coming back it doesn't bode too well. Still, the best matchups never happened then Bowe-Lewis or after one fighters prime Lewis-Tyson.

No idea of the purses nowadays, in his prime I know Tyson regualarly made huge purses, sometimes 8 figures. I've read stories that he has lost 100s of millions during his career, something that isn't unfeasible. I guess title holders nowadays still do ok, but if you asked the bloke on the street to name a heavyweight champ at the moment, you'd be lucky to get a right answer. The level of interest is certainly way down from then.

Still reckon the 60s and 70s were the best heavyweight era, a bit before my time though.

Bobby that vid sounds great, any chance of a copy?:hey

[Bobby]

leon, what state are you in? its available from action video sports, its the only place i have ever seen it, very rare, if they dont have it i may be able to send it to you

[LeonMcS]

WA mate, may be just down the road from you!

Send me a pm mate, seems I can't just yet.

[ozziebattler]

btw his win over foreman was easily his smartest and most complete performance i think,

Yeah he actually showed the skill he had in that fight..Didnt just slug away it it hoping for the lefthook to win it for him..

Though i remember Foreman copping a massive lefthook which would of knocked out kmost but big george just shook it off..I was stunned..

Bobby what was it like in the states??you get to spar or meet any legends??Tommy Morrison??lol..

[Bobby]

ozzie, people say foreman was lazy that night he didnt do enough, but i think he felt the power and his usual walk forward style was rethought or he was going to risk getting ktfo

states was great fun, i didnt get to train but i did meet monte barret,tarvis simms,don king, bobb goodman, jimmy lennon jr and a few more, i love morrison as a fighter b ut i dont think id want to meet him, as wrong as it is the dude still has aids imo and id prob feel uincomfortable, yeah i know thats not pc but truth

[LeonMcS]

Got ur pm Bobby, but can't reply as I havn't made enough posts yet. I'll contact you via your website, cheers mate.

[Bobby]

mate my website email is screwed atm, email me on [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[LeonMcS]

Great, I see that after I posted it! No probs.

[Bobby]

lol, nothing wose than writing a big email that doesnt work

[ozziebattler]

ozzie, people say foreman was lazy that night he didnt do enough, but i think he felt the power and his usual walk forward style was rethought or he was going to risk getting ktfo

states was great fun, i didnt get to train but i did meet monte barret,tarvis simms,don king, bobb goodman, jimmy lennon jr and a few more, i love morrison as a fighter b ut i dont think id want to meet him, as wrong as it is the dude still has aids imo and id prob feel uincomfortable, yeah i know thats not pc but truth

Agree with you on the foreman fight.Coming straight on tommy just suited tommy as all he had to do was unload.Tommy's doggy chin and stamina problems didnt seem to exist during that fight..Have to be up there as his best performance in my opinion,though the hipp fight was a ******* for different reasons.Broken jaw and hand..Tough bastard...

Quess i wouldnt really know how to act around someone who has aids,seeing i have never KNOWINGLY been in that situation..

Bobby i havent seen you in action before,so whats your strengths and weakness's?? You got a massive left hook ??

[Bobby]

opzzie, some of my fights on youtube, when i started i was a big ko puncher with poor stamina, now im a good pressure fighter that wears people down to the body , my left rip to the body is my best punch atm id say

[ozziebattler]

opzzie, some of my fights on youtube, when i started i was a big ko puncher with poor stamina, now im a good pressure fighter that wears people down to the body , my left rip to the body is my best punch atm id say

Cool i will check them out...

Left rip would work very good against todays untidy crop of heavyweights.lol..

Soon as they drop there hands bang lights out...:tired