WHY is Fedor the best?

[Slothrop]

Because watching the guy, it seems to me that he shouldn't be. He is not super conditioned and his stand-up game is full of holes. Yeah, he's got heavy hands and he's a beast on the ground, but you could say the same thing about a bunch of other guys. Explain.

[MrPook]

He keeps a great pr essence of mind during adversary.

He has great ground skills. And for the other part everything else is at least above average/pretty good. Therefore he has no real flaws as a fighter that others can exploit while he always finds a way to exploit his opponents weakness (keeping presence of mind is he key here)

[rekcutnevets]

Watching the guy, you should see that he should be. Fedor constantly finds a way to win. I think you may be confusing his lack of finesse with his greatness in efficiency.

Mark Coleman, Minotauro Nogueira, and Mirko Cro Cop are three of the best fighters to fight in mma's heavyweight division. Coleman was a world class wrestler. Nogueira is a bjj blackbelt. Cro cop was a world class kick boxer. Fedor defeated all three.

Fedor's striking is based on timing, accuracy, and getting into position to clinch. Fedor's striking style fits well into his arsenal.

Fedor may not be as good as Nogueira from his back, but he was able to impose his top game on him. Against Coleman, Fedor was able to submit the man with the superior top game from the bottom. Fedor is good in all areas and takes an opponent that outmatches in one area into another.

[jimmie]

power,speed,hard work,agression,timing,hip movement,submissions,strong chin,great recovery,super relaxed etc etc etc.

[G.A.V.]

Yeah, man, Fedor isn't THAAAT great, I mean look at his defense, he's getting caught, he may be great on the ground but his opponent can outwork him while stan- OH FUCKING LOOK AT THAT. A RIGHT HAND BY FEDOR! HOLY SHIT WOULD YA BELIEVE IT HE KNOCKED THE FUCKING GUY OUT COLD! BOY GOLLY I'M SURE SOME GUY COULD PENETRATE THAT DEFENSE AND KNOCK HIM OUT WHILST AVOIDING THAT RIGHT HAND.

Fedor is a fucking beast, end of. He will probably be beaten eventually, but give him his dues, he's THAT fucking good.

[karatekid530]

Watching the guy, you should see that he should be. Fedor constantly finds a way to win. I think you may be confusing his lack of finesse with his greatness in efficiency.

Mark Coleman, Minotauro Nogueira, and Mirko Cro Cop are three of the best fighters to fight in mma's heavyweight division. Coleman was a world class wrestler. Nogueira is a bjj blackbelt. Cro cop was a world class kick boxer. Fedor defeated all three.

Fedor's striking is based on timing, accuracy, and getting into position to clinch. Fedor's striking style fits well into his arsenal.

Fedor may not be as good as Nogueira from his back, but he was able to impose his top game on him. Against Coleman, Fedor was able to submit the man with the superior top game from the bottom. Fedor is good in all areas and takes an opponent that outmatches in one area into another.

:good all you need to say

[Sloth]

1. He always finds a way to win

2. His mental game is top notch (you can't rattle him with words)

3. He ignores pain

4. He has beaten the best. Some more than once

5. He is considered a small heavyweight that takes out beast

6. He uses your strenghts against you

7. He stays in shape (don't let his body fool you, he is in shape)

8. He is humble

9. He thinks before reacting

10. Superman owns a pair of Fedor Pajamas

[Beebs]

Basically it started because he was really the only great Judoka with an elite guard; most just had a great top game and an average guard; that probably comes from Sambo requiring a better guard and better wrestling style takedowns.

Then he devoloped the most brutal ground and pound game in the world, through a mixture of good posture and actrually practicing it on live partners. Also at this time he perfected his striking to get the takedown style.

Now he has devloped a striking game good enough to win fights on it's own.

[scurlaruntings]

Because watching the guy, it seems to me that he shouldn't be. He is not super conditioned and his stand-up game is full of holes. Yeah, he's got heavy hands and he's a beast on the ground, but you could say the same thing about a bunch of other guys. Explain.The question you should be asking yourself is "how" did i formulate that opinion after watching less than a handful of fights.

[Mazallan]

He is just your average fat white Russian. All those guys are like that.

[Polymath]

Best ground fighter in the world with the best intangibles. Simple imo.

[socrates]

why do bears shit in the woods?

[Slothrop]

The question you should be asking yourself is "how" did i formulate that opinion after watching less than a handful of fights.

I've seen the majority of his fights.

[boxingcar]

I've seen the majority of his fights.

Listen , he may not look in shape like a wlad klitschko or david haye...but he's a monster...

His fight against Nogueira( (the one from 2003 when he was still in his prime) should give you an idea why he's the goat of this sport....the most powerful groud & pound , the best gameplans (he doesn't come with a prepared gameplan , he changes them in real time...he's a tactical genius) , phenomenal submission defense , amazing work rate , fantastic balance on the ground , excellent reverses , top notch stamina...

Or to give you an idea of how devastating he is for his size , watch Lesnar vs Herring than compare it with fedor vs herring ..

[achillesthegreat]

Durable, heavyhanded, his stand up is terrible but awkward and enough to get him by, his grappling is simply sublime to say the least and not lastly he is will find an answer to EVERY GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING THING!

[wentz]

Because watching the guy, it seems to me that he shouldn't be. He is not super conditioned and his stand-up game is full of holes. Yeah, he's got heavy hands and he's a beast on the ground, but you could say the same thing about a bunch of other guys. Explain.

Everyone keeps saying how many holes are in his game. Everyone has holes, no one is perfect. Fedor's the best because no one's done anything but talk about his holes.

Personally, I feel he's striking more now to please the american audience. This is even more impressive. He could have just taken Arlovski down but didn't bother. Why do you suppose that is?

[killjoy408]

I've been a pride fan since the get go so I got to see Fedor at his prime, and now seeing his last few fights I can safely say he is no longer the MMA p4p king. That title belongs to Anderson Silva. Compare both of the fighters last few fights. I love Fedor but man, he's not the same fighter he was in Pride. Which makes me rethink his reasons for not joining the UFC. His legacy imo IS secured, but will have a blemish at the end if he never ends up fighting in the UFC.

[je1ani]

I've been a pride fan since the get go so I got to see Fedor at his prime, and now seeing his last few fights I can safely say he is no longer the MMA p4p king. That title belongs to Anderson Silva. Compare both of the fighters last few fights. I love Fedor but man, he's not the same fighter he was in Pride. Which makes me rethink his reasons for not joining the UFC. His legacy imo IS secured, but will have a blemish at the end if he never ends up fighting in the UFC.
IMO Rankings should be absolute. You can't go down even when you win.

[wingchung]

Because watching the guy, it seems to me that he shouldn't be. He is not super conditioned and his stand-up game is full of holes. Yeah, he's got heavy hands and he's a beast on the ground, but you could say the same thing about a bunch of other guys. Explain.

he has a great ground game also.

[bigG]

his mental game makes him the strongest....he will find a way to win, a weakness, and if any opponent finds a weakness in him, they better act fasst because he adapts quicker than a chameleon in an explosion in a paint shop....

[fundador]

hes the best because he beats every single MMA fighters that he faces!

[latineg]

Durable, heavyhanded, his stand up is terrible but awkward and enough to get him by, his grappling is simply sublime to say the least and not lastly he is will find an answer to EVERY GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING THING!

heavy handed ?

enough to get him by ?

awkward ?

jesuz you nearly admitted he haz good striking

[latineg]

Everyone keeps saying how many holes are in his game. Everyone has holes, no one is perfect. Fedor's the best because no one's done anything but talk about his holes.

Personally, I feel he's striking more now to please the american audience. This is even more impressive. He could have just taken Arlovski down but didn't bother. Why do you suppose that is?

he did take arlovski down

itz not fedorz fault the ref called the fight before he got to work hiz ground game on him

[venomus_p4p]

I dont care for him.

[Chileno606]

I dont care for him.

gtfo

[killjoy408]

IMO Rankings should be absolute. You can't go down even when you win.

true, but Anderson Silva didn't lose either. To me he went up because the people he fought, how he won those fights and how he dominated a higher weight division. He can hold the MW and LHW belts if he wasn't Machida's butt buddy. People may argue that the HW division has the biggest weight difference and Fedor fought the freak show Hong Man Choi in one of his recent fights, but Hong has no skill imo and the japanese are a crazy bunch and love seeing sideshow matches so they get fighters like him, Giant Silva and Zulu. It's more entertainment than anything else.

But I would love to see Fedor drop weight and join the heavily stacked LHW division thoe. He has the height for it and can drop the excess weight to do it too, I mean he is not the leanest and most ripped fighter out there. If he dropped weight and retained the power and gained speed, man....that would be so effin awesome to see. Then we can have a match between Fedor and Silva to see who the true MMA P4P king is... sorta like what's happening in boxing now with Mayweather and Pacman.

[killjoy408]

Sorry to kinda hijack the thread and I almost forgot to answer the thread's question.

Fedor is ONE of MMA's G.O.A.T. because his striking power (e.g. his one punch destruction against Zulu and Sylvia), ground game (how he seamlessly pulls off armbars on his back still amazes me), ground and pound (he's relentless with his attacks and hits like a bull, nogueira can cosign with my statement), his chin, defense, recovery speed, intelligence & heart (he took a solid punch to dome from ironhead fujita that would knock out most people, stayed on his feet, clinched, recovered and ended the fight with a choke. not to mention how he recovered, stayed calm and pulled out a kimura out of his ass after he was slammed on his head by kevin randleman. oh yea, he also refused to tap after mark hunt had him in a tight kimura too.)

the only downside I see with fedor is that he gets cut easily. his first loss was from a cut and he had to postpone his 2nd fight against nogueira because of their accidental headbutt. linland cut him pretty bad and brett fucked his nose up too having blood gushing out.