What the hell is wrong with Brock Lesnar?

[Slothrop]

Reports out that he collapsed in Canada and is hospitalized...White saying that he needs to get to the Mayo clinic or some other top hospital to figure out what's wrong... Not good.

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[curmudgeon]

I am not Dr. House, but my guess would be liver problems exacerbated by mono.

My guess has no basis in knowledge.

[scurlaruntings]

I think Fedor should get in the Octagon with him now. It could be his only chance to beat Lesnar.

[Mazallan]

Probably heard he had a 1% chance of fighting Fedor and his body shut down on him.

[Polymath]

He's ill

[socrates]

shit its sounding pretty serious now! just read a new article on shitdog,its sounding pretty ctitical! show some respect guys a man is seriously ill! at best he is going to be out for quite a while.

[chuffy]

Thanks for the article, Slothrop. I had no idea. That was sad reading, shocking news TBH. Hope the Champ gets better soon. All the best to him and his family.

[nfc90210]

Sounds very, very bad....

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HUGE BREAKING UFC NEWS: Exclusive info on major fight off, megastar career in jeopardy, huge meeting

Brock Lesnar is in extremely bad shape and it will be some time as to when he will fight again.

Lesnar, 32, went to Canada last week to try to get some rest, collapsed, and was rushed to the hospital. He has mono and also something else that he has requested confidentiality with the UFC as to what it is. Dana White said tonight that he promised Lesnar to keep the disease private, and said he doesn't have cancer or AIDS. It is, however, extremely serious and there are at least two things wrong and there may be more.

Dana White is heading to Minnesota and will be working to get Lesnar to the Mayo Clinic or equivalent medical facility for treatment.

Also, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira has a very serious staph infection and his fight with Cain Velasquez at UFC 108 is off. Nogueira will need an IV to hopefully get the infection out.

With Lesnar out indefinitely, Shane Carwin has undergone knee surgery, so he will not be available to face Velasquez at UFC 108.

We can also report that Shane McMahon had a meeting at the UFC offices recently. Dana White, when asked for more information, responded, "No comment."

We will try to have more late tonight in an audio update, along with a play-by-play of tonight's show.

[J_Roth]

Jesus

[Koa]

Damn, friggin WWE and all that gear they have their guys hopped up on.. I really hope he didn't ruin his liver and or kidneys/cirrhosis..

[boxingcar]

Sounds very, very bad....

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This doesn't sound good ...At all...hope everything gets back to normal soon.

[Slothrop]

Damn, friggin WWE and all that gear they have their guys hopped up on.. I really hope he didn't ruin his liver and or kidneys/cirrhosis..

Yeah that was the first thing to come to mind.

[scurlaruntings]

Damn, friggin WWE and all that gear they have their guys hopped up on.. I really hope he didn't ruin his liver and or kidneys/cirrhosis..Highly unlikely. You have to be on some serious long term abuse to damage your liver kidneys heart etc from hormone abuse. Theres no point in speculating as well. Simply wait for the facts to come out.

[Hmmm]

Hep C??

[Beebs]

Damn, friggin WWE and all that gear they have their guys hopped up on.. I really hope he didn't ruin his liver and or kidneys/cirrhosis..
To be fair I think it's more the Tylenol that's in Percocet and Vicodin and the drinking; oral steroids are the one that damage the liver, most WWE guys use injectibles.

I could be wrong though, no 100% sure.

[scurlaruntings]

To be fair I think it's more the Tylenol that's in Percocet and Vicodin and the drinking; oral steroids are the one that damage the liver, most WWE guys use injectibles.

I could be wrong though, no 100% sure.Oral steroids are much harder on your internal organs as they have to go through your digestive system. But you do get much faster results by injecting into the blood stream. Ultimately though they have to be filtered by your Liver and Kidneys. Either way the liklyhood of hormones causing damage is very slim. That would take years and years of constant use. I wouldnt be surpised though if Opiates or some form of pain killer has taken its toll as these can have a greater side effect when stacked with other drugs.

[196osh]

I hope he is ok. As much as I am not too much of a fan I never like to see a guy hurt or ill.

[Mazallan]

I really hope he is ok and best wishes to him and his family.

[bigG]

yeah, i dont get the hate for big brock...guys a phenomenal athlete....hope the guy gets his health, and happiness, back...

[keyser]

Betting he has some auto immune disease.

[Half-Dane]

OK not hating on Brock here but my guess would be damage to the heart because of prolonged steroid use.

[Beebs]

OK not hating on Brock here but my guess would be damage to the heart because of prolonged steroid use.

Yes, you clearly are hating on him.

He is diagnosed by real doctors with mono; you decide, with both your medical degree and experience with the situation, that they're wrong and it's actually steroids causing a heart problem.

[Half-Dane]

Yes, you clearly are hating on him.

He is diagnosed by real doctors with mono; you decide, with both your medical degree and experience with the situation, that they're wrong and it's actually steroids causing a heart problem.

Sorry, I didn't intend to insult your boyfriend

[Rangersfan1982]

Hope he gets well soon.

[fatcity]

I also would suspect something to do with steroids during his intake years with the WWE.The fact that Shane McMahon recently met with White arouses suspicion as well.

[scurlaruntings]

I also would suspect something to do with steroids during his intake years with the WWE.The fact that Shane McMahon recently met with White arouses suspicion as well.Not a shred of your "suspicions" is based in any FACTS whatsoever. Vince McMahon plus Brock = Steroids? How so? Last i looked Brock was diagnosed with mono and some other undisclosed illness and yet you in your infinite wisdom resort to supposition using some absurd maths to come to this earth shattering conclusion? I mean honestly are some of you guys serious? Seeing as your soooo clued up on hormone abuse why not expand on some notable cases of hormone abuse that have resulted in a condition such as Brocks. I eagerly await your answer.

[Beebs]

Sorry, I didn't intend to insult your boyfriend



I didn't mean to insult your literacy or diagnostical superpowers.

[Aussie_Al]

Regardless of what damage he has done to himself in the past - I hope he gets well soon :good

[Beebs]

Not a shred of your "suspicions" is based in any FACTS whatsoever. Vince McMahon plus Brock = Steroids? How so? Last i looked Brock was diagnosed with mono and some other undisclosed illness and yet you in your infinite wisdom resort to supposition using some absurd maths to come to this earth shattering conclusion? I mean honestly are some of you guys serious? Seeing as your soooo clued up on hormone abuse why not expand on some notable cases of hormone abuse that have resulted in a condition such as Brocks. I eagerly await your answer.


+1

Steroids used for performance enhancement are actually quite safe; it's why hormone replacement therapy is so common now. Most of the dead wrestlers died as a result of combining steroids, cocaine to party a night, painkillers to get through the pain and for fun, the APAP/Tylenol in percocet, vicodin, and the like does killer damage on the liver in high doeses when alcohol is added, (they'd be almost better off with pure opiates like morphine or even heroin), alcohol and benzos (Valium, Xanax, etc) to sleep off the cocaine, and meth to start the day. Obviously most only use 2 or 3, but all of those are pro "wrestlings" dirty little (not-so) secret.

Brock has said that he took "too many damn pain pills and drank too damn much" but he was never known to have a serious problem like Angle.

Not to mention if it was indeed steroids with Brock, it would be strange to manifest itself now; regardless of how much you think he has used in his life, for the past 5 years he has been under more scrutiny and testing than anybody. And anybody who says "passing a test is easy and works all the time," I will hunt you down and hold a gun to your head until you research anti-doping techniques and success rates.

[achillesthegreat]

Sounds very, very bad....

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WTF. Lesnar, Carwin, Nog etc all falling through. This is getting ridiculous.

I hope Brock recovers. I want to see what he can achieve.

[scurlaruntings]

+1

Steroids used for performance enhancement are actually quite safe; it's why hormone replacement therapy is so common now. Most of the dead wrestlers died as a result of combining steroids, cocaine to party a night, painkillers to get through the pain and for fun, the APAP/Tylenol in percocet, vicodin, and the like does killer damage on the liver in high doeses when alcohol is added, (they'd be almost better off with pure opiates like morphine or even heroin), alcohol and benzos (Valium, Xanax, etc) to sleep off the cocaine, and meth to start the day. Obviously most only use 2 or 3, but all of those are pro "wrestlings" dirty little (not-so) secret.

Brock has said that he took "too many damn pain pills and drank too damn much" but he was never known to have a serious problem like Angle.

Not to mention if it was indeed steroids with Brock, it would be strange to manifest itself now; regardless of how much you think he has used in his life, for the past 5 years he has been under more scrutiny and testing than anybody. And anybody who says "passing a test is easy and works all the time," I will hunt you down and hold a gun to your head until you research anti-doping techniques and success rates.If Brock had a problem with drug abuse it would have been evident by now. Tons of those guys in the WWE and OVW are on high doses of Opiates. There on a slew of pain killers that can have any adverse effect when combined with other drugs be it recreational or PED's. Im not interested in any speculation about Brocks health or state of affairs. But labelling baseless claims just because Vince turned up at the UFC is fucking ridiculous. ( and passing a piss test is easy :D You just have to know how to cycle on and off and what hormones they test for) Bottom line is even in BB circles theres a massive lack of knowledge as to what people put into their bodies.Guys inject stuff and dont even know what it is. All they know is it apparently give them muscles.

[Dynamite Kid]

To be fair I think it's more the Tylenol that's in Percocet and Vicodin and the drinking; oral steroids are the one that damage the liver, most WWE guys use injectibles.

I could be wrong though, no 100% sure.

What's the cause of Mono?

[196osh]

What's the cause of Mono?

Epstein Barr Virus

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[196osh]

With regards to Lesnar it is not improbably that just because he is a very large atheltic man who was obviously at one point on a lot of hormones. His heart is going to be big to pump blood around his massive body.

I see no issue with it possably being a heart condition. Odds are he just has mono.

[2ironmt]

Not a shred of your "suspicions" is based in any FACTS whatsoever. Vince McMahon plus Brock = Steroids? How so? Last i looked Brock was diagnosed with mono and some other undisclosed illness and yet you in your infinite wisdom resort to supposition using some absurd maths to come to this earth shattering conclusion? I mean honestly are some of you guys serious? Seeing as your soooo clued up on hormone abuse why not expand on some notable cases of hormone abuse that have resulted in a condition such as Brocks. I eagerly await your answer. good point, but why not disclose the other condition? it's gotta be something at least potentially embarassing. white has said it ain't HIV or cancer, so what is it and why hide it if it's not something that will cause controversy. since he's hiding it is it really way far out there to speculate that it might be somehow related to past drug/roid/gh abuse? guess it could be something like hep that is more personally emabarassing... i know health is private but in his case, he'd probably be best to disclose to end a lot of the speculation. anyway, hope he gets better.

[Half-Dane]

I could very well be the effect of anabolic steroid abuse and I think all you locker room experts should stop bullshitting yourself about the long term effects of such abuse.



Abstract: Heart failure may lead to subclinical circulatory disturbances and remain an unrecognized cause of ischemic liver injury. We present the case of a previously healthy 40-year-old bodybuilder, referred to our Intensive-Care Unit of Hepatology for treatment of severe acute liver failure, with the suspicion of toxic hepatitis associated with anabolic steroid abuse. Despite the absence of symptoms and signs of congestive heart failure at admission, an anabolic steroid-induced dilated cardiomyopathy with a large thrombus in both ventricles was found to be the underlying cause of the liver injury. Treatment for the initially unrecognized heart failure rapidly restored liver function to normal. To our knowledge, this is the first reported case of severe acute liver failure due to an unrecognized anabolic steroid-induced cardiomyopathy. Awareness of this unique presentation will allow for prompt treatment of this potentially fatal cause of liver failure. (C) 2009 The WJG Press and Baishideng. All rights reserved

(Source: WORLD JOURNAL OF GASTROENTEROLOGY Volume: 15 Issue: 23 Pages: 2920-2922 Published: JUN 21 2009)

I did read up on the whole subject and the really short version is:


Anabolic steroids (AS) in controlled pharmaceutical doses has been shown to have only lesser and reversible side effects like: Increased blood pressure, lowered HDL cholesterol level, acne, decreased quality of sperm, increased liver count and aggression
Comment: OK so not all will have symptoms from a controlled and short-termed use of AS and symptoms should be reversed after a few weeks to months after the use of AS have ended


Most users of AS take considerable more than pharmaceutical doses even though the pharmaceutical doses has a significant anabolic effect
Comment: People use way to much and could cut down the dose considerably and still get most of the anabolic effect


Case stories show that a long term AS use pose a lethal health risk but the total number of reported cases is not large enough to build a statistical base
Comment: The lack of a statistical base of long term effects is often used as an argument by the locker room experts to deny the health risks but just because very few of the many AS users actually report their long term use isn't an argument for the safety of AS use


The real risk of AS is the identity based addiction that often results in a cycle of abuse of AS that is difficult to break and so leads to an increasing health risk to the user
Comment: Spot on. Some young man is probably not going to consider the long terms effects when the risk right now is low given he takes a clean product and moderates the dosage

[Chileno606]

Cardiac problems from years of steroid and pain medication abuse during his WWE years. Just a guess.

[fatcity]

Not a shred of your "suspicions" is based in any FACTS whatsoever. Vince McMahon plus Brock = Steroids? How so? Last i looked Brock was diagnosed with mono and some other undisclosed illness and yet you in your infinite wisdom resort to supposition using some absurd maths to come to this earth shattering conclusion? I mean honestly are some of you guys serious? Seeing as your soooo clued up on hormone abuse why not expand on some notable cases of hormone abuse that have resulted in a condition such as Brocks. I eagerly await your answer.
Do you know the difference between "Suspect" and "fact"?
I can explain it to you,if you prefer.I at no ti,e claimed this was a fact and get your FACTS correct.It was SHANE McMahon who met with Dana,not Vince.
Your bore me with your half baked ideas.Get a life worth living and some personal skills instead of pretending to be some type of all knowing nerd.:nut

[scurlaruntings]

Do you know the difference between "Suspect" and "fact"?
I can explain it to you,if you prefer.I at no ti,e claimed this was a fact and get your FACTS correct.It was SHANE McMahon who met with Dana,not Vince.
Your bore me with your half baked ideas.Get a life worth living and some personal skills instead of pretending to be some type of all knowing nerd.:nutShane Vince his gran whogives a fuck. Your point was still worthless drivel.

[curmudgeon]

Shane Vince his gran whogives a fuck. Your point was still worthless drivel.

I am sorry to say, but so was yours.

The whole point of this thread is engaging in baseless speculation. It is in the fucking title.

[fatcity]

I am sorry to say, but so was yours.

The whole point of this thread is engaging in baseless speculation. It is in the fucking title.
Thank you.At least you get it.:good

[Evil Rich]

Your bore me with your half baked ideas

Holy irony Batman.

[Sloth]

Reports out that he collapsed in Canada and is hospitalized...White saying that he needs to get to the Mayo clinic or some other top hospital to figure out what's wrong... Not good.

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When he seen Fedor hit Rogers he fell out of his chair and broke his arm.

[Aussie_Al]

When he seen Fedor hit Rogers he fell out of his chair and broke his arm.

HAHHAHHAA :lol:

[Beebs]

I just heard over ESPN radio (on Colin Cowherd's show) that besides staph it involves a serious intestinal problem, that Dana knows what it is but can't say, and that it comes from when Brock "went to Canada and something bad happened."

It would be an absolutely enormous loss for MMA if Brock Lesnar never fights again, or even if he misses out for a long time.

He came in, took over the UFC division by storm, became what most sane people recognize as the second best HW (regardless of record), and now might have a career ending illness.

[scurlaruntings]

I just heard over ESPN radio (on Colin Cowherd's show) that besides staph it involves a serious intestinal problem, that Dana knows what it is but can't say, and that it comes from when Brock "went to Canada and something bad happened."

It would be an absolutely enormous loss for MMA if Brock Lesnar never fights again, or even if he misses out for a long time.

He came in, took over the UFC division by storm, became what most sane people recognize as the second best HW (regardless of record), and now might have a career ending illness.
I thought it was Nog that had the Staph infection? :huh So Brock has Mono Staph and some Intestinal issues too?

[Jnes]

The story now is that Brock had surgery for Diverticulitis which is when a pouch forms in the large intestine and feces gets trapped inside causing an infection. They cut out the pouch or pouches. He still has mono apparently.


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[scurlaruntings]

The story now is that Brock had surgery for Diverticulitis which is when a pouch forms in the large intestine and feces gets trapped inside causing an infection. They cut out the pouch or pouches. He still has mono apparently.


[Only registered and activated users can see links] dear that can lead too blood poisoning if not caught in time and theres always the risk of reinfection. Poor guy he must be down to 200lbs!

[Nosbor]

He will recover just fine and be fighting again by spring. Of this I am certain.

[Jnes]

He will recover just fine and be fighting again by spring. Of this I am certain.

I also believe he will recover from this. The "career-ending illness" quotes from Dana seem unwarranted.

I was picturing them having to remove his entire large intestine (but who knows what the extent of his intestinal problem is, if the surgery will fix it completely).

[Beebs]

I thought it was Nog that had the Staph infection? :huh So Brock has Mono Staph and some Intestinal issues too?

My mistake, I did mean mono, not staph.

[Beebs]

I also believe he will recover from this. The "career-ending illness" quotes from Dana seem unwarranted.

I was picturing them having to remove his entire large intestine (but who knows what the extent of his intestinal problem is, if the surgery will fix it completely).


With all due respect, I'm not an MD, and I don't know of anybody on here who is if you are please shed some light on your experince in similar cases). Of course, neither is Dana, so unless it was verbatim from the medical staff, his comments were just as much of a guess.

[Swamp Creature]

+1

Steroids used for performance enhancement are actually quite safe; it's why hormone replacement therapy is so common now. Most of the dead wrestlers died as a result of combining steroids, cocaine to party a night, painkillers to get through the pain and for fun, the APAP/Tylenol in percocet, vicodin, and the like does killer damage on the liver in high doeses when alcohol is added, (they'd be almost better off with pure opiates like morphine or even heroin), alcohol and benzos (Valium, Xanax, etc) to sleep off the cocaine, and meth to start the day. Obviously most only use 2 or 3, but all of those are pro "wrestlings" dirty little (not-so) secret.

Brock has said that he took "too many damn pain pills and drank too damn much" but he was never known to have a serious problem like Angle.

Not to mention if it was indeed steroids with Brock, it would be strange to manifest itself now; regardless of how much you think he has used in his life, for the past 5 years he has been under more scrutiny and testing than anybody. And anybody who says "passing a test is easy and works all the time," I will hunt you down and hold a gun to your head until you research anti-doping techniques and success rates.

Steroids are very dangerous long term imo even when used alone. I have seen too many guys from the gym years ago that used to take them a lot that are having some health issues now more than most people their age.

[Jnes]

With all due respect, I'm not an MD, and I don't know of anybody on here who is if you are please shed some light on your experince in similar cases). Of course, neither is Dana, so unless it was verbatim from the medical staff, his comments were just as much of a guess.

Not an M.D., my comments on Brock's chances are hopeful conjecture based on what I've read. We do not know the severity of his original condition, how much of his intestine was removed, or have any statements from his doctors.

What we have is a statement from Dana on his twitter page saying:

"Leaving bismarck ND right now. Brock had minor surgery and is feeling better. Not 100% sure he is out of the woods but feeling better"

He calls the surgery minor, which could mean they removed an insignificant amount of tissue. Did they remove all of the problem? Unknown.

A bacterial infection from Brock's own intestinal bacteria can be dealt with by antibiotics which he is reportedly taking. Just by what we have been told, there is nothing compelling that would end his career. My thoughts on "career-ending" were that he had a severe intestinal problem. Minor surgery does not indicate that, but we do not know the extent of his intestinal problem and if this surgery was meant to cure it totally or only alleviate it. Is Brock's normal intestinal function permanently compromised by the surgery? Will he have recurring problems? Are any further treatments necessary? We don't know.

What has been released by Dana on his twitter does not mesh with his original statements that Brock's career might be over, but those statements might have been made before Brock's exact diagnosis was known. If the "minor" surgery removed the intestinal problem and he only has to contend with an infection and mono, he'll be back.

[Beebs]

I honestly didn't mean it to sound as insulting as it did.

[Beebs]

Steroids are very dangerous long term imo even when used alone. I have seen too many guys from the gym years ago that used to take them a lot that are having some health issues now more than most people their age.

What I mean is that used either in prescribed Hormone Replacment Therapy, or even high enough to be performance enhancing or injury recovery manner in a reasonable, researched, educated way, they certainly pose risks. However, the risks are extremely exaggerated by the cases of people using them in modern pro body building doses or by just swallowing or injecting whatever the "know it all" at their gym suggests.

I am not saying "go out and take steroids", I am not in self denial because I never plan on taking steroids (or at least without a Doctor and not until I'm around 60 or recovering from an injury or illness), and I'm not suggesting their aren't risks even if done right.

I am saying that the risks are severely exaggerated by dumb users and minimal to proper users, and that there can actually be health benefits; testosterone and muscle mass is good for the human body after all.

[Jnes]

Latest is that Lesnar is now home from hospital recuperating.

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[latineg]

Highly unlikely. You have to be on some serious long term abuse to damage your liver kidneys heart etc from hormone abuse. Theres no point in speculating as well. Simply wait for the facts to come out.

stop speculatin hormone boy

[latineg]

What I mean is that used either in prescribed Hormone Replacment Therapy, or even high enough to be performance enhancing or injury recovery manner in a reasonable, researched, educated way, they certainly pose risks. However, the risks are extremely exaggerated by the cases of people using them in modern pro body building doses or by just swallowing or injecting whatever the "know it all" at their gym suggests.

I am not saying "go out and take steroids", I am not in self denial because I never plan on taking steroids (or at least without a Doctor and not until I'm around 60 or recovering from an injury or illness), and I'm not suggesting their aren't risks even if done right.

I am saying that the risks are severely exaggerated by dumb users and minimal to proper users, and that there can actually be health benefits; testosterone and muscle mass is good for the human body after all.

someone get his dude a jar to piss in he soundz guilty to me

prolly all jacked up on roidz pretendin he's 60 ffs

[latineg]

I honestly didn't mean it to sound as insulting as it did.

nah dont worry bout it

happenz when ur on roidz

[Evil Rich]

nah dont worry bout it

happenz when ur on roidz

Youz iz totallyz rightz dickheadz.

[angelos]

fuck to all those who are blaming WWE. The company has done a lot for his career wither you like it or not.

[scurlaruntings]

fuck to all those who are blaming WWE. The company has done a lot for his career wither you like it or not.
This much is true. But Vince treats his wrestlers like shit. His demands are unreasonable and the Wrestler either pay with there health or their lives.

[latineg]

fuck to all those who are blaming WWE. The company has done a lot for his career wither you like it or not.

a say burn the whole wwe to the ground :good

them bastardz tried to steal the world wildlife federationz term i say burn them to the ground :fire

[SouthpawSlayer]

can you see me now

[Half-Dane]

So some time has passed. Any medical details on Lesnar health issues?

[Christian81]

Next week there will be an official statement from Dana White and UFC about the situation of Brock Lesnar.
There are controversial/different speculations (US MMA media) that Lesnar will fighting in summer, Lesnar will fighting in the end of the year and so on.

Randy Couture said he believes lesnar returns into the octagon in the end of spring (source - inside mma) and a former coach??? of lesnar confirm this (mmaweekly)

[MexicanJew]

Just read in article on yahoo that, Lesnar's coach says he will be back sooner than anyone expects, but still no timetable

The possibility of him needing surgery keeps coming up.

Assuming this is common diverticulitis, and that he suffered from peritonitis, he would need at least 3 months of recovery. He would be placed on a low residue diet, low fiber, moderate protein, and he would abstain from vigorous exercise

Judging by fotos Ive seen, he is already on this diet, as he looks considerably leaner

Monitoring from month to month, I would want to make sure his peritoneum heals and that his large intestine doesnt have any new diverticula

Once his stomach has healed essentially, then he could resume heavier training. 2 months of gradually ramping up on the training,

During this period, he would now be on a high fiber diet, and he would be on this diet the rest of his life. High Fiber diets have been shown to lower the recurrence of Diverticulosis

Thats 5 months, 6 to be safe.

That still doenst include him resuming full on heavy training


My guess he wont be back till the last 3 months of 2010. Assuming everything goes right. It might be sooner, Im being conservative with my estimates

[ufoalf]

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[El Puma]

Dang. Nice find ufoalf

[HomicideHenry]

Lesnar might as well play it safe and take all of 2010 off and just gradually build his training back up and then fight in 2011. We dont need an MMA casualty on our hands, White would be destroyed if anything serious should ever happen to Lesnar if he came back too soon. Have the other HW's pick up the ball and run with it for a while, until a suitable challenger can be found---I suggest a UFC HW tournament on PPV.

[Mikey11]

a UFC HW tournie would be f'ing amazing - Mir to come out on top though.

Also Kimbo to rock it out!!!

[Half-Dane]

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Locker room MD beebs is gonna shit bricks [brocks?]

Nice find :thumbsup

[196osh]

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Great find. :good

[Beebs]

Locker room MD beebs is gonna shit bricks [brocks?]

Nice find :thumbsup

lol, I'm not the one making medical diagnoses from an abstract article.

[Polymath]

Locker room MD beebs is gonna shit bricks [brocks?]

Nice find :thumbsup

I don't think even Brocks biggest fan would deny hes done a lot of roids in his time. He was 340lbs and lean a few years ago ffs...anyway, a lot of the side effects of juicing are not well studied/understood, but if Brock is/will suffer ill health as a result, the damage is likely already done.

[Beebs]

I think it is highly likely he used steroids when he was a pro wrestler.

[300press]

I think Fedor should get in the Octagon with him now. It could be his only chance to beat Lesnar.




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: