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brown bomber
06-25-2007, 08:59 AM
If you truly dislike Hatton as a person and think he is a fraud please add your name to this list..... You don't need to put the reasons why unless you want to. :good
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 10:19 AM
Come on Hatton haters where you at?
Tony Harrison
06-25-2007, 10:22 AM
I actually witnessed him stealing sweets from a small child when he was in London. When I tried to intervene he poured water all over my head, at first I laughed sheepishly because I was so scared but deep down it hurt, I felt he had insulted me and my entire region that day.
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 10:23 AM
I actually witnessed him stealing sweets from a small child when he was in London. When I tried to intervene he poured water all over my head, at first I laughed sheepishly because I was so scared but deep down it hurt, I felt he had insulted me and my entire region that day. lol :yep
NOrth
06-25-2007, 10:27 AM
Same age, different weight.
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 10:33 AM
I'm pretty sure Hatton also poured water on the head of Diego Corrales wife when he was dedicating the fight to her and her husbands memory..... No class that Hatton. I mean fancy going to theUS, Boxing on HBO and not saying things like"boom, I am sooo goood" or "I am going to knock Barrera Spark out" or "Alla has decided I will retire undefeated".......
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 10:34 AM
Hatton only fights old has-beens -- Tszyu (36) Phillips (41) Pendleton (39) Olivera (38) Tackie (35) Maussa (35) Castillo (34) all at the very tail-end of their careers... Hatton is a joke and the only way for him to gain respect is to fight a fighter who is same age group as himself ie Miguel Cotto Excellent. Welcome to the list.
Nemesis
06-25-2007, 10:41 AM
Hatton only fights old has-beens -- Tszyu (36) Phillips (41) Pendleton (39) Olivera (38) Tackie (35) Maussa (35) Castillo (34) all at the very tail-end of their careers... Hatton is a joke and the only way for him to gain respect is to fight a fighter who is same age group as himself ie Miguel Cotto
I wonder what "JLC" stands for????
It wouldnt be the initials of the man Hatton poleaxed on saturday night would it
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 10:47 AM
I wonder what "JLC" stands for????
It wouldnt be the initials of the man Hatton poleaxed on saturday night would it Maybe it stands for Just Like Critisising. Anyway leave him be he's th lists first member- that makes him special- Next!
Jimbo
06-25-2007, 11:37 AM
I actually witnessed him stealing sweets from a small child when he was in London. When I tried to intervene he poured water all over my head, at first I laughed sheepishly because I was so scared but deep down it hurt, I felt he had insulted me and my entire region that day.
:lol: You know you've had a quiet day when you've read enough of the threads to get in jokes about other threads.
Jack Dempsey
06-25-2007, 12:57 PM
I wonder what "JLC" stands for????
It wouldnt be the initials of the man Hatton poleaxed on saturday night would it
The JLC!!!!
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The Hitman
06-25-2007, 01:05 PM
I'm pretty sure Hatton also poured water on the head of Diego Corrales wife when he was dedicating the fight to her and her husbands memory..... No class that Hatton. I mean fancy going to theUS, Boxing on HBO and not saying things like"boom, I am sooo goood" or "I am going to knock Barrera Spark out" or "Alla has decided I will retire undefeated".......
LOL :rofl Nice one mate :rofl
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 01:23 PM
Honary member: PowerPuncher.
Welcome in....
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 01:24 PM
Honary member: Boppa Zoo..... welcome.
ferd cloupes
06-25-2007, 02:36 PM
I actually witnessed him stealing sweets from a small child when he was in London. When I tried to intervene he poured water all over my head, at first I laughed sheepishly because I was so scared but deep down it hurt, I felt he had insulted me and my entire region that day.
he did that to you as well? i no like nasty ricky
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 03:09 PM
Im on the list.Hatton can do far better.This is not acceptable.Only a fool allows themselves to believe this nonsense.Hatton can beat up shot fighters and cans with ease.So step to the plate and actually fight one of the elite fighters at welter.Right now theres tons of them.Im not iinterested in Hatton talking up fights with champs from yesteyear and then calling them all time greats and P4P entrants.When he does fall from grace his fall will be hard.As he duped the fans and the paying public and all those northern monkeys that spent there wedge on him at the M.E.N watching him defend the WBU.
PowerPuncher
06-25-2007, 03:30 PM
Why I'm not a Hatton fan.....
I think Ricky Hatton is a bully that targets opponents he knows he can beat and avoids tough challenges like Mayweather/Cotto/Witter.
Hatton has completely disrespected British boxing by ducking Witter from 2000-2007, its disgraceful
Hes a CHEAT! Against Tyszu he throw a horrible low blow, and he could have been DQ'ed in that fight. Against Castillo he got hit on the beltline (the ref said it was okay) and pretended he had been low blowed. Thats not to mention any of his huggy bear routines.
The fact he plays on being a man of the people while expecting everyone to shell out a load of money to help him make another few million against another stiff is a bit of joke.
Good fighter, not great, still doesn't want to fight a top fighter in their prime. Goto admit his Castillo performance was excellent but Castillo was past it and unproven at 140
Strike
06-25-2007, 03:31 PM
Hatton only fights old has-beens -- Tszyu (36) Phillips (41) Pendleton (39) Olivera (38) Tackie (35) Maussa (35) Castillo (34) all at the very tail-end of their careers... Hatton is a joke and the only way for him to gain respect is to fight a fighter who is same age group as himself ie Miguel Cotto
No mate you are a fucking joke. You were all over every thread saying Castillo would KO him and easily, not once did you say Castillo was shot ot past it, you said Hatton was getting destroyed. Now you are everywhere saying Castillo was done.
What a clown.
Strike
06-25-2007, 03:33 PM
Im on the list.Hatton can do far better.This is not acceptable.Only a fool allows themselves to believe this nonsense.Hatton can beat up shot fighters and cans with ease.So step to the plate and actually fight one of the elite fighters at welter.Right now theres tons of them.Im not iinterested in Hatton talking up fights with champs from yesteyear and then calling them all time greats and P4P entrants.When he does fall from grace his fall will be hard.As he duped the fans and the paying public and all those northern monkeys that spent there wedge on him at the M.E.N watching him defend the WBU.
Name the guys you would accept. And tell me why when Tsyzu was the champion with a belt, having KO'd Mitchell and looking for another defence, it was a fraud and a set up for Hatton to fight him?
If he was so shot and past it, why did everyone including you pick him to KO Hatton?
Just name the tons of fighters you would accept Hatton to face.
ron u.k.
06-25-2007, 03:39 PM
what i could never understand is how the haters slaughtered hatton for beating tszyu and still do,but let tszyu off the hook for quitting on his stool and seemingly quite happy to do so.very strange.
Tony Harrison
06-25-2007, 03:41 PM
Also the complete lack of complaint from Tszyu himself, he praised Hatton after the fight and still does as far as I am aware.
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 03:46 PM
No mate you are a fucking joke. You were all over every thread saying Castillo would KO him and easily, not once did you say Castillo was shot ot past it, you said Hatton was getting destroyed. Now you are everywhere saying Castillo was done.
What a clown.Keep it real Strike you too were blowing smoke for a long time awaiting Hattons so called "big fights" Although Castillo despite shot was a good name his victory over an old name opponent is not the stuff of legends.Attitudes would have been entirely diffrent had that been Cotto vs Castillo.
My dinner with Conteh
06-25-2007, 03:52 PM
If he was so shot and past it, why did everyone including you pick him to KO Hatton?
He did? Ha ha, what a total prick. Nothing worse than a gobshite who gives it the "he'll be KO'd" only to turn around and give it the "yeah, what did you expect" angle when he's proven to be a know all/fuck all:hi:
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 03:52 PM
Name the guys you would accept. And tell me why when Tsyzu was the champion with a belt, having KO'd Mitchell and looking for another defence, it was a fraud and a set up for Hatton to fight him?
If he was so shot and past it, why did everyone including you pick him to KO Hatton?
Just name the tons of fighters you would accept Hatton to face.SSM, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Cintron, PBF, Williams, Baldomir, Witter, Harris, Malinaggi, Torres, DLH would you like more?
yes i picked Kostya and i gave credit when it was due.But fuck me that fight was 2 years ago and its still being mentioned now!!!?!?!?!?!?!? Look at his comp since? We had to wait 38 fights before he fought a live name, and what we supposed to do now wait another 7 years before Hatton fights any names at welter? His becoming JOE CALZAGHE part 2.A comfort fighter in a comfort zone dicatating what he wants and only fighting who he wants.not good enough.Big fights are out there simply make them.
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 03:54 PM
He did? Ha ha, what a total prick. Nothing worse than a gobshite who gives it the "he'll be KO'd" only to turn around and give it the "yeah, what did you expect" angle when he's proven to be a know all/fuck all:hi:Your a fucking cunt are you.You come here like a stirring fucking boil talking smack and riding Rickys dick all the way to ESB.Get the fuck out of here if you dont have anything good to say.Or do us all a favor stop breathing and stick a note to your head so your useless organs can be donated for medical research.
My dinner with Conteh
06-25-2007, 03:56 PM
Your a fucking cunt are you.You come here like a stirring fucking boil talking smack and riding Rickys dick all the way to ESB.Get the fuck out of here if you dont have anything good to say.Or do us all a favor stop breathing and stick a note to your head so your useless organs can be donated for medical research.
Riding his dick, when? I've never been a huge fan, I just think he's good. Get your facts right- and give white people a chance for once. :good
My dinner with Conteh
06-25-2007, 03:57 PM
So, if he beat Judah next fight you'd give him loads of credit? Yeah, right. :huh
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 03:59 PM
Riding his dick, when? I've never been a huge fan, I just think he's good. Get your facts right- and give white people a chance for once. :goodSee thats my case in point.Your small undeveloped retarded brain now thinks that iv got it in for Ricky because his white? Is that suppose to be the best you could stoop too? Surely your capable of going lower.. fucks sake what a waste of space.
ron u.k.
06-25-2007, 04:06 PM
scurla-the people who keep bringing up the tszyu fight are the huggers who won't let it drop about how dirty ricky brutalized poor little kosta.
My dinner with Conteh
06-25-2007, 04:06 PM
See thats my case in point.Your small undeveloped retarded brain now thinks that iv got it in for Ricky because his white? Is that suppose to be the best you could stoop too? Surely your capable of going lower.. fucks sake what a waste of space.
A waste of space is a sad cunt who says things like "Kosta KO!!! :happy " then turns around and says "He was shot...and old and rusty and :|" Something your water-biscuit sized knowledge can't quite cope with. I, like many, also predicted a Hatton defeat but after accepted it was a fine performance. Then again, the General Forum's about your level so maybe that's what I've come to expect.
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 04:14 PM
A waste of space is a sad cunt who says things like "Kosta KO!!! :happy " then turns around and says "He was shot...and old and rusty and :|" Something your water-biscuit sized knowledge can't quite cope with. I, like many, also predicted a Hatton defeat but after accepted it was a fine performance. Then again, the General Forum's about your level so maybe that's what I've come to expect.Wahay il send you a cookie in the post.So let me guess your either a fortune teller or a witch? Did you notice how i didnt repond to your previous post? Keep it that way.
My dinner with Conteh
06-25-2007, 04:20 PM
Did you notice how i didnt repond to your previous post?
Actually, no.
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 04:22 PM
Actually, no.Ok il be sure to get that cookie off to you in the post now.Good boy.
ferd cloupes
06-25-2007, 04:33 PM
Keep it real Strike you too were blowing smoke for a long time awaiting Hattons so called "big fights" Although Castillo despite shot was a good name his victory over an old name opponent is not the stuff of legends.Attitudes would have been entirely diffrent had that been Cotto vs Castillo.
cotto got rimmed by all and sundry simply for beating judah. if he'd have marmalised castillo in four they'd be queueing round the block to suck his dick.
and so as no one gets confused i'd happily pay good money to watch cotto or hatton. or mayweather for that matter
Strike
06-25-2007, 04:36 PM
SSM, Cotto, Margarito, Judah, Cintron, PBF, Williams, Baldomir, Witter, Harris, Malinaggi, Torres, DLH would you like more?
No that is fine, but why do you rate DLH and Witter as acceptable? Surely if Hatton won you and everyone else could just say "They were old and past it". I mean what is the difference? DLH has lost 3 of his last 5 fights and struggled to a win over Sturm. He is also 34, so older than Castillo, and Baldomir is 36.
This is what I mean about being inconsistent. Tsyzu was shot and too old. Castillo was past it and too old, but a guy like Baldomir at 36 is a fine opponent?
I just don't believe that if Hatton named Baldomir as his next opponent you would say it was a good fight. Fuck me, Collazo was younger and a world champion, he was deemed a good enough opponent for Sugar Shane, but Hatton fighting him in his first fight at welter is not acceptable.
I am not a deluded fan. I think PBF, SSM and Cotto would all beat Hatton. But I also think he is a top level fighter who is getting flack for fights that were perfectly good match ups.
scurlaruntings
06-25-2007, 04:45 PM
No that is fine, but why do you rate DLH and Witter as acceptable? Surely if Hatton won you and everyone else could just say "They were old and past it". I mean what is the difference? DLH has lost 3 of his last 5 fights and struggled to a win over Sturm. He is also 34, so older than Castillo, and Baldomir is 36.
This is what I mean about being inconsistent. Tsyzu was shot and too old. Castillo was past it and too old, but a guy like Baldomir at 36 is a fine opponent?
I just don't believe that if Hatton named Baldomir as his next opponent you would say it was a good fight. Fuck me, Collazo was younger and a world champion, he was deemed a good enough opponent for Sugar Shane, but Hatton fighting him in his first fight at welter is not acceptable.
I am not a deluded fan. I think PBF, SSM and Cotto would all beat Hatton. But I also think he is a top level fighter who is getting flack for fights that were perfectly good match ups.Right number 1 there is no comparison between a 6 weight world champ like DLH and a faded Castillo:patschGeez strike its not even close.Im not splitting hairs here but the general consensus is that if Hatton got in the ring with DLH right now he`d be in deep deep water.DLH is a solid light middle who can make welter and is 5ft 11 with a great left hook thats felled many a man..:rofl As for Baldo his coming off the back off win over Gatti and Judah.I have no problem with that bout and would have preferred that than Castillo but in the grand scheme of things it wouldnt have mattered much.I merely mentioned his name as you asked for a list.So dont harp on semantics and pick and choose what a merely moot points.This is ESB not the house of lords.
As for Collazo Shane fought him after Collazo was noticed as the WBA`s belt holder.Most fans hadnt even heard of him and im sure that list includes you.Shane did a job on him Hatton struggled.Whats your point? BUT the bout never should have happend as imo Hattons business at the time was clearing 140 not popping into to 47 to fight non descript names and falling off.47 is stacked why not fight a name!?!?!?!??!?!
RichDam
06-25-2007, 05:05 PM
I actually witnessed him stealing sweets from a small child when he was in London. When I tried to intervene he poured water all over my head, at first I laughed sheepishly because I was so scared but deep down it hurt, I felt he had insulted me and my entire region that day.
I just spat out my tea because I was laughing so much.
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 05:36 PM
Things are hotting up on this thread...... remind me never to argue with my dinner with conteh again. :-)
David UK
06-25-2007, 05:54 PM
Your a fucking cunt are you.You come here like a stirring fucking boil talking smack and riding Rickys dick all the way to ESB.Get the fuck out of here if you dont have anything good to say.Or do us all a favor stop breathing and stick a note to your head so your useless organs can be donated for medical research.
The hamster is dead but the wheel is still turning!!:lol:
Expert
06-25-2007, 06:45 PM
i dont hate Hatton, but he dont deserve too much credit 4 fighting that way.
As simple as that.
brown bomber
06-25-2007, 07:10 PM
i dont hate Hatton, but he dont deserve too much credit 4 fighting that way.
As simple as that. I'm glad you don't hate him expert.
Strike
06-25-2007, 08:29 PM
Right number 1 there is no comparison between a 6 weight world champ like DLH and a faded Castillo:patschGeez strike its not even close.Im not splitting hairs here but the general consensus is that if Hatton got in the ring with DLH right now he`d be in deep deep water.DLH is a solid light middle who can make welter and is 5ft 11 with a great left hook thats felled many a man..:rofl As for Baldo his coming off the back off win over Gatti and Judah.I have no problem with that bout and would have preferred that than Castillo but in the grand scheme of things it wouldnt have mattered much.I merely mentioned his name as you asked for a list.So dont harp on semantics and pick and choose what a merely moot points.This is ESB not the house of lords.
As for Collazo Shane fought him after Collazo was noticed as the WBA`s belt holder.Most fans hadnt even heard of him and im sure that list includes you.Shane did a job on him Hatton struggled.Whats your point? BUT the bout never should have happend as imo Hattons business at the time was clearing 140 not popping into to 47 to fight non descript names and falling off.47 is stacked why not fight a name!?!?!?!??!?!
No mate you have totally missed the point. I am not for a second saying DLH is not a tougher fight than Castillo, of course he is.
I am saying how can you pick guys who are that age?
Tsyzu was a tough fight. EVERYONE (bar about 4 people) picked Tszyu. He was not only the man, but had destroyed Mitchell ( another guy who you said would beat Hatton). Not one person said Tsyzu was too old or past it, because we had seen what he had done.
Now a few years on that fight is degraded to the point of meaning nothing by Hatton haters.
My point is that Castillo was a good opponent. Up there with Cotto et al? No chance. But a good opponent? Yes.
To drag up his age when 18 months ago he stone cold KO'd Corrales, then won his next fight and basically had one bad performance at a new weight against a guy he could not get interested in is simply crazy.
Look at Calzaghe against Salem or Ashira. Look at DLH against Sturm as opposed to Mayorga.
Castillo is not prime. But he is is not shot if we judge it off evidence.
But all you guys do is bring up that he is 33. That is why I want to know why DLH and Baldomir are okay. Because if he fought either of them, I am sure you and JLC etc would be slating him for fighting another old man.
BigEars
06-25-2007, 09:42 PM
Hatton only fights old has-beens -- Tszyu (36) Phillips (41) Pendleton (39) Olivera (38) Tackie (35) Maussa (35) Castillo (34) all at the very tail-end of their careers... Hatton is a joke and the only way for him to gain respect is to fight a fighter who is same age group as himself ie Miguel Cotto
LOL , that's actually amazing . You managed to get the age wrong for every fighter on that list(for when they fought Hatton)
Tszyu was (35) , Phillips (39) , Pendelton(38 ), Oliveira(36) , Tackie(30) , Maussa(34) , Castillo(33) .
You might say your point still stands and that all of them other then Tackie were still old . I'd say someone should get their facts(age of boxers) right before even starting to try and argue something .
Expert
06-25-2007, 09:46 PM
LOL , that's actually amazing . You managed to get the age wrong for every fighter on that list(for when they fought Hatton)
Tszyu was (35) , Phillips (39) , Pendelton(38 ), Oliveira(36) , Tackie(30) , Maussa(34) , Castillo(33) .
You might say your point still stands and that all of them other then Tackie were still old . I'd say someone should get their facts(age of boxers) right before even starting to try and argue something .
Yes, Hatton only fights old boxers
Strike
06-25-2007, 10:10 PM
Yes, Hatton only fights old boxers
You my friend are a prick. You are a troll who does not even like boxing, you start Hamed threads and I don't even think you are a Hamed fan...in fact you are one of three things...
1) A genuine Hamed fan boy who is British Asian and basically bums any Asian fighter and hates on white fighters.
2) A white racist who thinks the best way to get props for white fighters is to slag them off and get lots of responses pointing out why he is wrong and also making big claims about non white fighters just to see them shot down. IE..very insecure.
3. A total utter cretin who does not know what he is writing, saying or thinking because he is a moron.
Amsterdam
06-26-2007, 12:47 AM
You my friend are a prick. You are a troll who does not even like boxing, you start Hamed threads and I don't even think you are a Hamed fan...in fact you are one of three things...
1) A genuine Hamed fan boy who is British Asian and basically bums any Asian fighter and hates on white fighters.
2) A white racist who thinks the best way to get props for white fighters is to slag them off and get lots of responses pointing out why he is wrong and also making big claims about non white fighters just to see them shot down. IE..very insecure.
3. A total utter cretin who does not know what he is writing, saying or thinking because he is a moron.
I'll take 1 and 3 in combination as the most likely.
And for the thread, I've always claimed that Hatton is a great fighter, I stuck by it during times where he was being slagged at a ridiculous level. The Hatton hate is stupid.
Expert
06-26-2007, 05:06 AM
I'll take 1 and 3 in combination as the most likely.
And for the thread, I've always claimed that Hatton is a great fighter, I stuck by it during times where he was being slagged at a ridiculous level. The Hatton hate is stupid.
who has Hatton fought that was in his prime?
brown bomber
06-26-2007, 06:52 AM
LOL , that's actually amazing . You managed to get the age wrong for every fighter on that list(for when they fought Hatton)
Tszyu was (35) , Phillips (39) , Pendelton(38 ), Oliveira(36) , Tackie(30) , Maussa(34) , Castillo(33) .
You might say your point still stands and that all of them other then Tackie were still old . I'd say someone should get their facts(age of boxers) right before even starting to try and argue something .:good
The Jackal
06-26-2007, 07:23 AM
Honary member: Boppa Zoo..... welcome.
I can't work out why on earth Boppa would hate Hatton.
I wonder why??????????
The Jackal
06-26-2007, 07:29 AM
You my friend are a prick. You are a troll who does not even like boxing, you start Hamed threads and I don't even think you are a Hamed fan...in fact you are one of three things...
1) A genuine Hamed fan boy who is British Asian and basically bums any Asian fighter and hates on white fighters.
2) A white racist who thinks the best way to get props for white fighters is to slag them off and get lots of responses pointing out why he is wrong and also making big claims about non white fighters just to see them shot down. IE..very insecure.
3. A total utter cretin who does not know what he is writing, saying or thinking because he is a moron.
Number 3 sounds like one of my old high school teachers when he finally decided to say something nice to me for a change.
Steve Fox
06-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Why can there be no middle-ground. Hatton is an exciting fighter who did a number on a name opponent. But remember that's what JLC is at this point in his career - an opponent. It's hard to critcise Ricky's fight, but fans who claim that after two years fighting at the top means he has moved beyond the need for a title is ridiculous. I know there is a popular saying nowadays about the fighter making the title, not the other way round, but that's just advocating the hand-picking of opponents. A champion wins the title and defends it against whoever he has to - he has someone to answer to. It should be the fights that matter to the fight fans not p4p, hof and ring rankings.
PowerPuncher
06-26-2007, 08:26 AM
Why can there be no middle-ground. Hatton is an exciting fighter who did a number on a name opponent. But remember that's what JLC is at this point in his career - an opponent. It's hard to critcise Ricky's fight, but fans who claim that after two years fighting at the top means he has moved beyond the need for a title is ridiculous. I know there is a popular saying nowadays about the fighter making the title, not the other way round, but that's just advocating the hand-picking of opponents. A champion wins the title and defends it against whoever he has to - he has someone to answer to. It should be the fights that matter to the fight fans not p4p, hof and ring rankings.
Good post, not extreme 1 way or another to get the support of anyone here though :good
PowerPuncher
06-26-2007, 08:29 AM
You my friend are a prick. You are a troll who does not even like boxing, you start Hamed threads and I don't even think you are a Hamed fan...in fact you are one of three things...
1) A genuine Hamed fan boy who is British Asian and basically bums any Asian fighter and hates on white fighters.
2) A white racist who thinks the best way to get props for white fighters is to slag them off and get lots of responses pointing out why he is wrong and also making big claims about non white fighters just to see them shot down. IE..very insecure.
3. A total utter cretin who does not know what he is writing, saying or thinking because he is a moron.
Everyone has their fave fighters, ie no offense but I've only seen you post on Hatton boxing threads outside of the Lounge. I think Expert posts in the Classic section unless I'm mistaken although I could be wrong.
I think Hamed is a great fighter and 1 of the best of the 90s, I rank him above Tyszu in greatness. Does that make me a fanboy?
Strike
06-26-2007, 08:36 AM
Everyone has their fave fighters, ie no offense but I've only seen you post on Hatton boxing threads outside of the Lounge. I think Expert posts in the Classic section unless I'm mistaken although I could be wrong.
I think Hamed is a great fighter and 1 of the best of the 90s, I rank him above Tyszu in greatness. Does that make me a fanboy?
I wasn't talking to you and I highly rate Hamed. I post on far more than just Hatton but to be honest I rarely post on boxing here anymore because there are so many idiots talking shit constantly.
I posted about Peter Buckley a while back when someone was dismissing the work put in by dedicated pros like him who are the foundation of boxing. I have posted a lot in the past about numerous fighters but as I said this is less and less due to all the nonsense.
I used to post on the classic section but again that is usually split into two extreme camps, the ones who rate Jim Jeffries above Lennox Lewis and who have people like John Sullivan in their top ten of all time and the guys who think that nobody from before 1980 would ever stand a chance against a modern era fighter.
I don't think you are a fanboy at all, I was talking to "Expert" who spent about a week starting Hamed threads saying Hamed would KO PBF, was Hamed the greatest ever, Hamed would be too fast for Roy Jones Junior etc :lol:...and other stupid threads.
His new trick is starting repeated anti Hatton threads.
He is a moron.
brown bomber
06-26-2007, 10:19 AM
Why can there be no middle-ground. Hatton is an exciting fighter who did a number on a name opponent. But remember that's what JLC is at this point in his career - an opponent. It's hard to critcise Ricky's fight, but fans who claim that after two years fighting at the top means he has moved beyond the need for a title is ridiculous. I know there is a popular saying nowadays about the fighter making the title, not the other way round, but that's just advocating the hand-picking of opponents. A champion wins the title and defends it against whoever he has to - he has someone to answer to. It should be the fights that matter to the fight fans not p4p, hof and ring rankings. JLC was hardly an opponent he had beaten the reigning Lightweight Champion (the number 1) and was unbeaten against moderate opposition since- that doesn't make him an opponent. You kind of contradict yourself too when you say that Hatton should be a titlist and answer to the govening body but should fight against guys the fans feel he should fight. Those two things rarely equate.
brown bomber
06-26-2007, 10:22 AM
I post on far more than just Hatton but to be honest I rarely post on boxing here anymore because there are so many idiots talking shit constantly.
:good
PowerPuncher
06-26-2007, 10:39 AM
I wasn't talking to you and I highly rate Hamed. I post on far more than just Hatton but to be honest I rarely post on boxing here anymore because there are so many idiots talking shit constantly.
I posted about Peter Buckley a while back when someone was dismissing the work put in by dedicated pros like him who are the foundation of boxing. I have posted a lot in the past about numerous fighters but as I said this is less and less due to all the nonsense.
I used to post on the classic section but again that is usually split into two extreme camps, the ones who rate Jim Jeffries above Lennox Lewis and who have people like John Sullivan in their top ten of all time and the guys who think that nobody from before 1980 would ever stand a chance against a modern era fighter.
I don't think you are a fanboy at all, I was talking to "Expert" who spent about a week starting Hamed threads saying Hamed would KO PBF, was Hamed the greatest ever, Hamed would be too fast for Roy Jones Junior etc :lol:...and other stupid threads.
His new trick is starting repeated anti Hatton threads.
He is a moron.
I think hes a young kid that doesn't really know boxing but has his faves. I remember when I was 13 I thought Benn and Eubank could beat Lennox :lol: . I remember as a 17yo having college mates tell me Hamed would knock out all the HW division if he was ALLOWED to fight HWs :lol: Boxing fans make boxers into SuperHeros when in reality they have strengths and weaknesses like all fighters/people
Logic tends to make little change on boxing forums, especially to morons, as we'll all have our heros. And few ever seem objective and unbiased when discussing boxing.
Arguing with people about boxing on forums becomes very addictive after a while. The classic section can be quite interesting aside from the bullshit to read about interesting boxing history/stories. But the lounge is certainly a refreshing a change reading about people like IRFSKO having worse girl problems than the rest of us :lol:
Steve Fox
06-26-2007, 11:03 AM
JLC was hardly an opponent he had beaten the reigning Lightweight Champion (the number 1) and was unbeaten against moderate opposition since- that doesn't make him an opponent. You kind of contradict yourself too when you say that Hatton should be a titlist and answer to the govening body but should fight against guys the fans feel he should fight. Those two things rarely equate.I'm not sure where I've said that he should be fighting the guys the fans feel he should fight. As for 'unbeaten against moderate opposition' well that isn't even worthy of a response.
brown bomber
06-26-2007, 11:14 AM
I'm not sure where I've said that he should be fighting the guys the fans feel he should fight. As for 'unbeaten against moderate opposition' well that isn't even worthy of a response. lol I read your post again- I don't get it. I thought you were trying to say what I previously posted but now its unclear..... what are you trying to say?
Steve Fox
06-26-2007, 11:53 AM
lol I read your post again- I don't get it. I thought you were trying to say what I previously posted but now its unclear..... what are you trying to say?The sentance that says 'It should be the fights that matter to the fans, not p4p etc...' is a somewhat unrelated reference to the currently disproportionate ammount of respect the p4p and ring rankings get, when in essence thay are merely someone's opinions. Fans should care about the actual fights not these rankings so much.
I'm confusing myself now.
brown bomber
06-26-2007, 11:56 AM
The sentance that says 'It should be the fights that matter to the fans, not p4p etc...' is a somewhat unrelated reference to the currently disproportionate ammount of respect the p4p and ring rankings get, when in essence thay are merely someone's opinions. Fans should care about the actual fights not these rankings so much.
I'm confusing myself now. hey i do that all the time :good
faisal
06-26-2007, 01:32 PM
hattons a great boxer and all glory to him, but the main reason why i dislike him is that ignorant working class manchester attitude, and his yorkshire accsent pisses me off.
Amsterdam
06-26-2007, 02:47 PM
who has Hatton fought that was in his prime?
Hatton ranks greater than Hamed as of now.
Expert
06-26-2007, 07:15 PM
I wasn't talking to you and I highly rate Hamed. I post on far more than just Hatton but to be honest I rarely post on boxing here anymore because there are so many idiots talking shit constantly.
I posted about Peter Buckley a while back when someone was dismissing the work put in by dedicated pros like him who are the foundation of boxing. I have posted a lot in the past about numerous fighters but as I said this is less and less due to all the nonsense.
I used to post on the classic section but again that is usually split into two extreme camps, the ones who rate Jim Jeffries above Lennox Lewis and who have people like John Sullivan in their top ten of all time and the guys who think that nobody from before 1980 would ever stand a chance against a modern era fighter.
I don't think you are a fanboy at all, I was talking to "Expert" who spent about a week starting Hamed threads saying Hamed would KO PBF, was Hamed the greatest ever, Hamed would be too fast for Roy Jones Junior etc :lol:...and other stupid threads.
His new trick is starting repeated anti Hatton threads.
He is a moron.
Naz is a so much better fighter than Hatton all around
Expert
06-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Hatton ranks greater than Hamed as of now.
no, and who has Hatton fought that was in his prime? Who?
scurlaruntings
06-26-2007, 07:29 PM
no, and who has Hatton fought that was in his prime? Who?Dont even bother mate.Anyone who is barmy enough to think Hatton is has achieved more than Naz isnt worth arguing with.
Strike
06-26-2007, 08:14 PM
Naz is a so much better fighter than Hatton all around
Not all round he isn't. He was not a better body puncher for example. However, yes Hamed was more talented and he achieved more. Hamed is very underrated now because of one loss to an ATG when he did not train properly.
But that was not my point, I never claimed Hatton was better than Naz, I claimed you were a repetetive troll, and you are.
pecks
06-26-2007, 08:31 PM
no, and who has Hatton fought that was in his prime? Who?People were saying that Tszyu was in career best form after he KO'd Mitchell in 3, and that he looks the best they've seen him. I'm not saying he was at his optimum in that fight, and the conditions didn't really suit Tszyu, but I'd say that it's fair to say that Hatton beat a Tszyu that was well up around his prime.
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