Peter named WBC Interim Champion!!!

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fight news.

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They said if Maskaev can return within one year, he can then fight Peter, or if he does not return within one year Peter will automatically become Undisputed WBC Champion. I did not see however any news as to the rumors or not Oct. 6 show will go as planned.

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Shit I thought it sounded like breaking news to me.:lol:

[cross_trainer]

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I'm just being the mesenger, and at least they are finally doing fuckin something. IMO, Oleg has avoided this fight to all his extent and if a year goes by without Oleg stepping in and taking him on then Peter will be the Champ.

[Sai]

Wait, what about Peter- Golota?

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You don''t think it's a good thing they're finally doing something, instead of letting Oleg hold the belt hostage anymore?

[pipe wrenched]

Wait, what about Peter- Golota?

I know! As far as I could tell there was nothing in the article even mentioning the fight. But IMO, not only should it go on for the sake of all fighters on the card, Showtime, and the Venue. But, Peter needs to get his ass in the ring because he hasn't fought since the Toney match.

[cross_trainer]

You don''t think it's a good thing they're finally doing something, instead of letting Oleg hold the belt hostage anymore?

I think that the entire WBC belt is becoming a merry-go-round, with its numerous broken deadlines and interim champions. It's had a grand total of TWO defenses of the belt since Vitali fought Williams--both of them from Rahman.

He may not have been a great fighter, but sadly enough I'm starting to miss him.

[pipe wrenched]

I think that the entire WBC belt is becoming a merry-go-round, with its numerous broken deadlines and interim champions. It's had a grand total of TWO defenses of the belt since Vitali fought Williams--both of them from Rahman.

He may not have been a great fighter, but sadly enough I'm starting to miss him.

Wow, I didn't realize that. I hear ya brother, I just thought It may be good that altleast we can get on with it, instead of waiting to see when Maskaev feels like doin something.

[Bubba]

Belts have to be won in the ring.

Not handed to you because your manager/promoter threaten to sue everyone.

:tired

[pipe wrenched]

Belts have to be won in the ring.

Not handed to you because your manager/promoter threaten to sue everyone.

:tired

There is no way to disagree with this, but what options do you have when the champ is holding the belt hostage?

[CHEF]

Does this move by the WBC really suprise any of us? The WBC doesn't want to end up in court with Duva.
Now watch who Duva picks to fight Peter next......at best a "C" level fighter

[pipe wrenched]

Does this move by the WBC really suprise any of us? The WBC doesn't want to end up in court with Duva.
Now watch who Duva picks to fight Peter next......at best a "C" level fighter

Hmm.... No doubt. Earlier today it sounded like Peter/Gollota was on. With this news release it didn't mention a fight at all. I think if nothing else Peter needs a fight just to not get rusty, as he did show a good bit of improvement in Toney 2.

[RUSKULL]

The WBC should've made Peter fight the number 2 ranked guy & that's Virchis.

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The WBC should've made Peter fight the number 2 ranked guy & that's Virchis.

No doubt. Can't understand why they wouldn't unless unavailability, or something of that nature. Surely though the belt should have been won in the ring regardless of who really, in the ring.

[thesandman]

The WBC should've made Peter fight the number 2 ranked guy & that's Virchis.

Or better still, the guy that they probably made PAY for an eliminator fight, in McCall.

Either one of those 2 would have been fine.

[SteveO]

I think that the entire WBC belt is becoming a merry-go-round, with its numerous broken deadlines and interim champions. It's had a grand total of TWO defenses of the belt since Vitali fought Williams--both of them from Rahman.

He may not have been a great fighter, but sadly enough I'm starting to miss him.

Don't forget handing out title eliminators like they're spaghetti sauce coupons.

[psychopath]

You don''t think it's a good thing they're finally doing something, instead of letting Oleg hold the belt hostage anymore?

Yup that's an improvement. But it should be clariffied that Oleg should not fight anybody else except Peter first . . . or he'll be automatically stipped of the tittle. :yep

[Mankind]

fight news.

what a crock of shit.

have to award it to him because he can't win it.

[jisi]

Great news. Peter can´t wait his boxer life that Maskaev becomes healthy enough to fight.

Peter have wait a long time. It is not his false.

Than unify with Wladimir.

[thesandman]

what a crock of shit.

have to award it to him because he can't win it.

It sucks yeah.

but if we had to wait until Emeritus Vitlay, or regular ol' Oleg were fit, we wouldn't have a fight again.

[0-1]

At least, as I understand it, Peter has to defend it within 90 days. I'm hoping that they just did this so that an October 6th bout can be champion-challenger for the interim belt, instead of having two challengers for a vacant interim belt, which just sounds silly!

[DamonD]

I wish they'd set up an interim fight instead, with whoever the highest-ranked WBC guy they could've get their hands on.

Regardless of the capabilities of the person involved, getting a belt without a fight always goes down badly with the critics. The WBC has handled this badly.

[Orang-Utan Jim]

As long as Peter is with Duva and King, he will fight one Don King bum after another. Watch the Valuev opponents....

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Yup that's an improvement. But it should be clariffied that Oleg should not fight anybody else except Peter first . . . or he'll be automatically stipped of the tittle. :yep

I think that's what I understood it to say, that upon being fit Oleg must immediately fight Peter or he will be stripped and Peter will be full Champion.

[Shpion]

The WBC should've made Peter fight the number 2 ranked guy & that's Virchis.

That would be rational which is against the wbc code. wbc is officially the worst in the current circus of all the different corrupt organizations.

Has anybody already calculated, to how many don king fighters they have handed the belts, without a fight?

[Asterion]

He should have fought for the belt. Even if he had fought Jameel McCline or Andrew Golota as a formality, this would be more legit.

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He should have fought for the belt. Even if he had fought Jameel McCline or Andrew Golota as a formality, this would be more legit.

There is no way to argue that.

[Ambition_Def]

They did the right thing in my eyes.

As for what I can tell there was some trouble getting the top guys to agree to an interim eliminator. Which is probably what promted the WBC to award interim champion outright to Samuel Peter.

McCall wanted a large sum of money, probably too much for what the show was earning. Virchis as far as I can tell was unavailable as well.

So that basically leaves whoever is 3-10. And seeing as to now this isn't an interim eliminator coming up october the 6th, we may afterall see Golota-Peter.

Like it or not guys Maskaev is the primary fault for this. He cost alot of people money between January to August and Sam Peter, as well as his people have to get paid. If they make Oct 6th Golota-Peter, that is what this is all about. Making some money and staying active.

I for one expect Maskaev to slink into the shadows after his "injuries" are healed. He'll try and secure a money fight but Vitali probably wouldn't be interested now. Maskaev will immediately lose his title on the basis of fighting anyone other than Peter. Which is proper.

A fight is better than no fight, which is what Maskaev had in mind. The sooner we are rid of Maskaev and Vitali, the better off this division will be. No exceptions.

[Shpion]

They did the right thing in my eyes.

As for what I can tell there was some trouble getting the top guys to agree to an interim eliminator. Which is probably what promted the WBC to award interim champion outright to Samuel Peter.

McCall wanted a large sum of money, probably too much for what the show was earning. Virchis as far as I can tell was unavailable as well.

So that basically leaves whoever is 3-10. And seeing as to now this isn't an interim eliminator coming up october the 6th, we may afterall see Golota-Peter.

Like it or not guys Maskaev is the primary fault for this. He cost alot of people money between January to August and Sam Peter, as well as his people have to get paid. If they make Oct 6th Golota-Peter, that is what this is all about. Making some money and staying active.

I for one expect Maskaev to slink into the shadows after his "injuries" are healed. He'll try and secure a money fight but Vitali probably wouldn't be interested now. Maskaev will immediately lose his title on the basis of fighting anyone other than Peter. Which is proper.

A fight is better than no fight, which is what Maskaev had in mind. The sooner we are rid of Maskaev and Vitali, the better off this division will be. No exceptions.

Of course in your eyes they did the right thing as you are known on this board to be the biggest don king's cock-sucker. No surprise you are happy that another king's fighter got a belt without a fight.

So Virchis as far as you can tell was unavailable, ah? And as far as I can tell, he was ready to fight Peter for free.

[Zakman]

They give away belts like candies nowadays.

No kidding. This is bogus, and I'm a fan of Peter's. First they gave away Vitali's belt to Rahman, now they give Maskaev's to Peter. The WBC is the most corrupt sanctioning org in the sport - and that's SAYING something!!:patsch

[standing 8]

There is no way to disagree with this, but what options do you have when the champ is holding the belt hostage?


They could have just stripped Maskaev of his title and then have Peter fight for the vacant heavyweight championship belt.

[Ambition_Def]

Of course in your eyes they did the right thing as you are known on this board to be the biggest don king's cock-sucker. No surprise you are happy that another king's fighter got a belt without a fight.

And you have those Eastern Euros so far down your throat you make Heather Brook look like an amateur.

So Virchis as far as you can tell was unavailable, ah? And as far as I can tell, he was ready to fight Peter for free.

Link, source, or stfu. Your choice.

[pipe wrenched]

They could have just stripped Maskaev of his title and then have Peter fight for the vacant heavyweight championship belt.

This has been the rally cry of several posters lately, just strip him and lets get on with it. I can't say I'm happy with what they've decided (the belt should be won in the ring either way), but I'm glad they've done something so we can atleast attempt to move forward.

[Shpion]

And you have those Eastern Euros so far down your throat you make Heather Brook look like an amateur.

Surprisngly, you did not use a racial remark towards the E. Europeans? I personaly would not mind if Peter fought McCall(non E. European) instead of Virchis for the belt.

Link, source, or stfu. Your choice.

You are the one spaming here with baseless information. Where is your link/source for Virchis not being available?

[Ambition_Def]

You are the one spaming here with baseless information. Where is your link/source for Virchis not being available?

As usual playing the gimp game.

Tell me boy wonder. How did McCall let the public know he was ready to fight Sam Peter? Media right?

Has Virchis made any public claim to any news agency that he would step in immediately to fight Sam Peter?

I think you have your answer. :hi:

[In_FlaMeS]

Now he will stop to be a cry baby...

[Shpion]

As usual playing the gimp game.

Tell me boy wonder. How did McCall let the public know he was ready to fight Sam Peter? Media right?

Has Virchis made any public claim to any news agency that he would step in immediately to fight Sam Peter?

I think you have your answer. :hi:

McCall was promised by the wbc to be the next in line for the title quite a while ago(once he beat SSS), just like Peter was promised his after beating Toney twice and Klitschko having the emeritus crap.

So if for some reason McCall did not agree to fight for the interim bulshit, it should have been up to the wbc to try and get the next contnender who happens to be Virchis(if Virchis not available, then next in line), rather then just announcing Peter as a champion.

[Curtis Lowe]

It just shows you how little respect people have for Interim Champions, or for the WBC for that matter.

All this means is that the WBC can charge a sanctioning fee for Peter's next fight. Nothing else.

[Radar]

He should have fought for the belt. Even if he had fought Jameel McCline or Andrew Golota as a formality, this would be more legit.
I don't know. He fought Toney twice already, and Klitschko tried to then interfere with the Maskaev title shot. It is an interim title, and if Maskaev is able to go in the near future he will get mandatory shot and the larger split of the purse (55/45). I'd say this is fair.

Wonder if Vitali will be as anxious to fight Peter as he was Maskaev? :yep

[bumdujour]

I don't know. He fought Toney twice already, and Klitschko tried to then interfere with the Maskaev title shot. It is an interim title, and if Maskaev is able to go in the near future he will get mandatory shot and the larger split of the purse (55/45). I'd say this is fair.

Wonder if Vitali will be as anxious to fight Peter as he was Maskaev? :yep

i predict he retires with suddenly "very serious backinjury":yep

[Ambition_Def]

McCall was promised by the wbc to be the next in line for the title quite a while ago(once he beat SSS), just like Peter was promised his after beating Toney twice and Klitschko having the emeritus crap.

So if for some reason McCall did not agree to fight for the interim bulshit, it should have been up to the wbc to try and get the next contnender who happens to be Virchis(if Virchis not available, then next in line), rather then just announcing Peter as a champion.

I'm glad you came back with some proof that Virchis actually declared his availability. :-(

Anyways back on planet earth things aren't so easy to figure out. McCall was asking for too much money (as illustrated by the press reports). Golota couldn't be placed in Maskaev's place because Showtime didn't want the fight. Virchis as far as any of us know hasn't said a word.

So who else is there? Who is gonna take on Sam Peter with only 2 weeks notice? Again, who is really to blame here? Hint: his name starts with an 'O' and ends with 'Legs.'

I'm certain had Maskaev pulled out at a reasonable time there would have been ample opportunity to find a replacement. Smarty pants Maskaev knows this, so he took special care to sink the ship with only 2 weeks left on the date. He wanted this date sunk.

I blame him for everything. :smoke

[Radar]

i predict he retires with suddenly "very serious backinjury":yep

:yep

[Curtis Lowe]

I don't following the WBCs rankings, but what is the deal with all these eastern European block heavyweights, excluding Maskaev, not ever getting a shot at the interim, or whatever you want to call it, title. Instead we here Golota and McCline's name. Maybe its due to good ole Don King still having the WBC under his thumb. Hell, I guess it could be worse, at least I haven't heard Davaryl "Touch of Boring" Williamson mentioned as an opponent for Peter.

[Radar]

I'm glad you came back with some proof that Virchis actually declared his availability. :-(

Anyways back on planet earth things aren't so easy to figure out. McCall was asking for too much money (as illustrated by the press reports). Golota couldn't be placed in Maskaev's place because Showtime didn't want the fight. Virchis as far as any of us know hasn't said a word.

So who else is there? Who is gonna take on Sam Peter with only 2 weeks notice? Again, who is really to blame here? Hint: his name starts with an 'O' and ends with 'Legs.'

I'm certain had Maskaev pulled out at a reasonable time there would have been ample opportunity to find a replacement. Smarty pants Maskaev knows this, so he took special care to sink the ship with only 2 weeks left on the date. He wanted this date sunk.

I blame him for everything. :smoke
I can't resist asking how you enjoyed Paul Williams' kicking Margo's ass? You know - just as I told you he would. And how about Witter smoking Viv Harris? Somewhere Floyd Mayweather was laughing his ass off at the inanity of some fans. Yeah, I know I am off topic. :lol:

[Shpion]

I'm glad you came back with some proof that Virchis actually declared his availability. :-(

Anyways back on planet earth things aren't so easy to figure out. McCall was asking for too much money (as illustrated by the press reports). Golota couldn't be placed in Maskaev's place because Showtime didn't want the fight. Virchis as far as any of us know hasn't said a word.

So who else is there? Who is gonna take on Sam Peter with only 2 weeks notice? Again, who is really to blame here? Hint: his name starts with an 'O' and ends with 'Legs.'

I'm certain had Maskaev pulled out at a reasonable time there would have been ample opportunity to find a replacement. Smarty pants Maskaev knows this, so he took special care to sink the ship with only 2 weeks left on the date. He wanted this date sunk.

I blame him for everything. :smoke

I personally don't consider Golota to be deserving a title shot. That being said I would still rather have Golota vs. Peter for the belt in a non TV aired fight than no fight at all. Just a personal reference.

P.S
You are actualy giving Maskaev too much credit for calling him "smarty pants," because he is an idiot. He could have had a unification fight with Vladimir Klitschko before that Okhelo non-sense, thus, having retired financially set. No

[Ambition_Def]

I can't resist asking how you enjoyed Paul Williams' kicking Margo's ass? You know - just as I told you he would. And how about Witter smoking Viv Harris? Somewhere Floyd Mayweather was laughing his ass off at the inanity of some fans. Yeah, I know I am off topic. :lol:

Margarito will be back. I even have the famous avatar in stock, ready to return the day he makes his grand reappearance. :yep

Harris is done. He's been done since Manny dropped him. Can't take directions, has too big an ego, believes too much in his power. Sounds familiar. :think

Paul Williams is a middleweight masquerading as a welterweight. 6'2 162lbs at fight time? Jesus. :patsch He'll be fighting for the super middleweight title before he's 29.

[Ambition_Def]

I personally don't consider Golota to be deserving a title shot. That being said I would still rather have Golota vs. Peter for the belt in a non TV aired fight than no fight at all. Just a personal reference.

Well that's all fine an dandy but people still have to get paid. Off tv means Showtime loses out on it's contract and the promoters lose money there.

Sam Peter is not an off TV fighter under any circumstances. Someone with his youth and energy will make a showtime card even against a gimmie. That is what people consider of his TV potential. But seeing it was labeled a "title fight" they felt Golota was out of his league and took a hard line against it.

P.S
You are actualy giving Maskaev too much credit for calling him "smarty pants," because he is an idiot. He could have had a unification fight with Vladimir Klitschko before that Okhelo non-sense, thus, having retired financially set. No

How much did he make fighting that bum in Russia? I'm sure he got at least 75% of that purse, at least.

[Shpion]

I don't following the WBCs rankings, but what is the deal with all these eastern European block heavyweights, excluding Maskaev, not ever getting a shot at the interim, or whatever you want to call it, title. Instead we here Golota and McCline's name. Maybe its due to good ole Don King still having the WBC under his thumb. Hell, I guess it could be worse, at least I haven't heard Davaryl "Touch of Boring" Williamson mentioned as an opponent for Peter.

As you had said. That is because the only E. European blocks under the wbc puppeteer's(don king) wing are Golota and Valuev.

[RUSKULL]

I don't know. He fought Toney twice already, and Klitschko tried to then interfere with the Maskaev title shot. It is an interim title, and if Maskaev is able to go in the near future he will get mandatory shot and the larger split of the purse (55/45). I'd say this is fair.

Wonder if Vitali will be as anxious to fight Peter as he was Maskaev? :yep

As if Peter is some huge threat to Vitali :-(

[Shpion]

Well that's all fine an dandy but people still have to get paid. Off tv means Showtime loses out on it's contract and the promoters lose money there.

Instead of not getting paid at all, they could have done the same as it was done with Briggs vs. Ibragimov or Holy vs. Savarese - PPV.




How much did he make fighting that bum in Russia? I'm sure he got at least 75% of that purse, at least.

I hope he and his f**king team incurred a loss for that joke of a fight.

[RUSKULL]

I can't resist asking how you enjoyed Paul Williams' kicking Margo's ass? You know - just as I told you he would. And how about Witter smoking Viv Harris? Somewhere Floyd Mayweather was laughing his ass off at the inanity of some fans. Yeah, I know I am off topic. :lol:

..........and I can't resist asking you "how much you enjoyed watching Wladimir beat Brewster so badly in the rematch that he quit?" :D

[Radar]

Margarito will be back. I even have the famous avatar in stock, ready to return the day he makes his grand reappearance. :yep

Harris is done. He's been done since Manny dropped him. Can't take directions, has too big an ego, believes too much in his power. Sounds familiar. :think

Paul Williams is a middleweight masquerading as a welterweight. 6'2 162lbs at fight time? Jesus. :patsch He'll be fighting for the super middleweight title before he's 29.

Well, pretty reasonable stuff. But I'll just quip that Margo is a very big WW as well. Tony was what - 5'11" and 160 pounds? :yep

[Ambition_Def]

Well, pretty reasonable stuff. But I'll just quip that Margo is a very big WW as well. Tony was what - 5'11" and 160 pounds? :yep

Nein. 5'11 157. Even if you slot both of them at their weigh-ins it was a jr.middle fighting a younger middleweight.

We both know what Margarito is. He's all strength and volume. Hopefully in the rematch he does the only thing that works for him, and that's throw like a windmill. What a dumb move on their part to try and knock Williams out. :patsch You'd think after this much time they'd know how to win.

[Radar]

..........and I can't resist asking you "how much you enjoyed watching Wladimir beat Brewster so badly in the rematch that he quit?" :D
Brewster should not have fought Klitschko in his first outing back after his third detached retina and a very long layoff. Still, the way my math works they will probably retire at 1-1. How do you like them apples? :lol:

BTW - just because I still consider you a noob to the site :rofl - I predicted that Wlad would batter Brewster in the first fight. I figured the same for the second one as well. :deal

[Radar]

Nein. 5'11 157. Even if you slot both of them at their weigh-ins it was a jr.middle fighting a younger middleweight.

We both know what Margarito is. He's all strength and volume. Hopefully in the rematch he does the only thing that works for him, and that's throw like a windmill. What a dumb move on their part to try and knock Williams out. :patsch You'd think after this much time they'd know how to win.

But it is a fair size matchup for said 5'11, 157 (debatable, BTW - he has been reoprted to be 160 for some fights) pound WW to fight Mayweather - who is 5'8" and 150 pounds soaking wet (and looked his best at 135-140)? :yep

[Loufatski]

..........and I can't resist asking you "how much you enjoyed watching Wladimir beat Brewster so badly in the rematch that he quit?" :D

I certainly loved it. Brewster was sooooooo over-rated I knew it all along.

[Radar]

As if Peter is some huge threat to Vitali :-(

At this stage he most certainly is. Klitschko is broken, son, and you'd better hunker down and deal with it. :rofl

An old Lennox lewis took his heart. :lol:

[RUSKULL]

Brewster should not have fought Klitschko in his first outing back after his third detached retina and a very long layoff. Still, the way my math works they will probably retire at 1-1. How do you like them apples? :lol:

BTW - just because I still consider you a noob to the site :rofl - I predicted that Wlad would batter Brewster in the first fight. I figured the same for the second one as well. :deal

You're def. right, Brewster should've had a tune-up before fighting for the belt. I don't think the detached retina affected his eyesight at all though. He even said the eye was fine but you know in the back of his mind he didn't want another injury like that one and that helped him make the decision to quit when he did.

Are you going to be posting regularly again? If so I'll have to sharpen my debating skills...................:yep

[Rumsfeld]

At this stage he most certainly is. Klitschko is broken, son, and you'd better hunker down and deal with it. :rofl

An old Lennox lewis took his heart. :lol:

With a headbutt, no less!

;)

[RUSKULL]

At this stage he most certainly is. Klitschko is broken, son, and you'd better hunker down and deal with it. :rofl

An old Lennox lewis took his heart. :lol:

The King will return and shatter Peter's skull. :bart

[Radar]

You're def. right, Brewster should've had a tune-up before fighting for the belt. I don't think the detached retina affected his eyesight at all though. He even said the eye was fine but you know in the back of his mind he didn't want another injury like that one and that helped him make the decision to quit when he did.

Are you going to be posting regularly again? If so I'll have to sharpen my debating skills...................:yep

We'll see. :yep

Our little boy keeps us hopping - to say the least. :lol:

[Radar]

With a headbutt, no less!

;)

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Did I tell you I bought a bigger house? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Zakman]

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Did I tell you I bought a bigger house? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ah, so that's what you've been up too, eh?:smoke

Welcome back to the fun and games, man!:good

People have been grossly underrating Peter lately - there is an entire contingent of fans that actually thought Maskaev would beat him!!:patsch

[Radar]

Ah, so that's what you've been up too, eh?:smoke

Welcome back to the fun and games, man!:good

People have been grossly underrating Peter lately - there is an entire contingent of fans that actually thought Maskaev would beat him!!:patsch
Hey you immoral Lewis Hatter! :yep

On Peter we agree, Zak. Maskaev more skilled, but aging, brittle and so susceptible to the bomb that Peter likely would have planted at some point. :deal

[Ambition_Def]

But it is a fair size matchup for said 5'11, 157 (debatable, BTW - he has been reoprted to be 160 for some fights) pound WW to fight Mayweather - who is 5'8" and 150 pounds soaking wet (and looked his best at 135-140)? :yep

Well fair is fair. If he can cut to 147 and blow back up to 162lbs more power to him. But draining near 20lbs for the scales isn't gonna last for very long. Infact I'll be surprised to see him beat Margarito in a rematch judging by who looked stronger going into the final rounds. All he had to do was stay busy from round 1 to 12 and they blew it. Can't predict that.

[Ambition_Def]

I hear McCline has come up with the best Klitschko name yet - Brittley.

[Radar]

Well fair is fair. If he can cut to 147 and blow back up to 162lbs more power to him. But draining near 20lbs for the scales isn't gonna last for very long. Infact I'll be surprised to see him beat Margarito in a rematch judging by who looked stronger going into the final rounds. All he had to do was stay busy from round 1 to 12 and they blew it. Can't predict that.

Williams is green in terms of big fight exposure. He will get better and will acquire more guile and savvy. Margarito is unilkely to ramp up from here on out. Paul Williams will beat him again. I'd also suggest that Margo is not exactly the world's most adaptable fighter. He has one style based on volume and grit, and if that is met by a lefty with equal or greater output, much better handspeed and better pure skill, he is going to be in deep water again.

[RUSKULL]

We'll see. :yep

Our little boy keeps us hopping - to say the least. :lol:

My son is doing well also, he got me into watching Nascar..............

[Radar]

I hear McCline has come up with the best Klitschko name yet - Brittley.

I may reconsider my long-standing disdain for Bigtime. :yep

[Radar]

My son is doing well also, he got me into watching Nascar..............

How old? Ours is 16 months and is a machine. The worst part of all is that he is so damn cute that we are totally disarmed most of the time. :lol:

[Ambition_Def]

Williams is green in terms of big fight exposure. He will get better and will acquire more guile and savvy. Margarito is unilkely to ramp up from here on out. Paul Williams will beat him again. I'd also suggest that Margo is not exactly the world's most adaptable fighter. He has one style based on volume and grit, and if that is met by a lefty with equal or greater output, much better handspeed and better pure skill, he is going to be in deep water again.

Nope. He sure cannot adapt. Which is my point really. They had him on a seek and destroy mission thinking they would knock Williams out. Had they just gone in there and do what works for him (100 punches a round) he would have worn Williams down much sooner.

I guess the reports at ringside attest to this. Margarito's punches were landing with a significantly higher thud than Williams' punches.

[Zakman]

Hey you immoral Lewis Hatter! :yep

On Peter we agree, Zak. Maskaev more skilled, but aging, brittle and so susceptible to the bomb that Peter likely would have planted at some point. :deal

A "hatter" I will be, hopefully not mad, however!:lol:

And you are dead on on Maskaev. It seemed to me that only the most biased Euro nuthuggers and some Peter haters were the ones giving him a shot!

Hey, now what do you think of their handing the title to Peter?? To me, it's a little dodgy, but then most long-time boxing fans don't take the hyjinks of these sanctioning orgs seriously.

Whatever they do, it is clear that Peter is LONG overdue for his shot!

[Radar]

Nope. He sure cannot adapt. Which is my point really. They had him on a seek and destroy mission thinking they would knock Williams out. Had they just gone in there and do what works for him (100 punches a round) he would have worn Williams down much sooner.

I guess the reports at ringside attest to this. Margarito's punches were landing with a significantly higher thud than Williams' punches.


Hmmm. Or could it be that he just started slowly - as he invariably does? I'd also suggest that Paul Williams dug in and acquitted himself very well in the 12th round - an important fact in the grand scheme. I also think that Williams' awkward style and high volume, angle punching had plenty to do with Margarito's own diminished output, as well. Rematch = carbon copy, IMO.

[Radar]

A "hatter" I will be, hopefully not mad, however!:lol:

And you are dead on on Maskaev. It seemed to me that only the most biased Euro nuthuggers and some Peter haters were the ones giving him a shot!

Hey, now what do you think of their handing the title to Peter?? To me, it's a little dodgy, but then most long-time boxing fans don't take the hyjinks of these sanctioning orgs seriously.

Whatever they do, it is clear that Peter is LONG overdue for his shot!

The interim title is ok after the BS Peter has been subjected to. If Maskaev is ready to go soon he is still guaranteed the shot and the larger share of the pot. Haven't read the letter of the WBC law, but perhaps what they did is within their own stipulated rules?

[UndisputedUK]

LOL Interim is like superchamps WBA style. :lol:

Joke of a belt, farce, made an interim champ for losing to WK. :huh :patsch