ESB World Rankings

[robpalmer135]

Please note that these rankings have been put together by ESB forum members

P4P Top 10

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Shane Mosley
6. Paul Williams
7. Wladamir Klitscko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Chad Dawson
10. Ivan Calderon

Heavyweight
ESB Champ: Wladimir Klitschko (53-3)
1. Vitali Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Eddie Chambers
4. David Haye
5. Ruslan Chagaev
6. John Ruiz
7. Nikolay Valuev
8. Denis Boytsov
9. Chris Arreola
10. Tomasz Adameck

Cruiserweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Steve Cunningham
2. Marco Huck
3. Zsolt Erdei
4. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
5. Victor Emilio Ramirez
6. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
7. Grigory Drozd
8. Giacobbe Fragomeni
9. Ola Afolabi
10. Danny Green

Light-Heavyweight
ESB Champ: (Chad Dawson)
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Jean Pascal
3. Tavoris Cloud
4. Glen Johnson
5. Gabriel Campillo
6. Adrian Diaconu
7. Jurgen Braehmer
8. Behbut Shumenov
9. Karo Murat
10. Hugo Hernan Garray

Super-Middleweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Andre Ward
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch
4. Arthur Abraham
5. Mikkel Kessler
6. Sakio Bika
7. Andre Dirrell
8. Robert Stieglitz
9. Librado Andrade
10. Allan Green

Middleweight
ESB Champ: Kelly Pavlik
1. Felix Sturm
2. Khoren Gevor
3. Paul Williams
4. Sebastian Sylvester
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Matthew Macklin
7. Ronald 'Winky' Wright
8. Dmitry Pirog
9. Gennady Golovkin
10. Danny Jacobs

Light-Middleweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Sergiy Dzindziruk
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Yuri Foreman
4. Cory Spinks
5. Kermit Cintron
6. Verno Phillips
7. Sergio Mora
8. Ryan Rhodes
9. Lukas Konecny
10. Daniel Santos


Welterweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Shane Mosley
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Joshua Clottey
6. Andre Berto
7. Luis Collazo
8. Isaac Hlatshwayo
9. Vyacheslav Senchenko
10. Selcuk Aydin


Light-Welterweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1, Ricky Hatton
2. Timothy Bradley
3. Amir Khan
4. Juan Urango
5 Devon Alexander
6. Kendoll Holt
7. Marcos Maidana
8. Juan Diaz
9. Paulie Malignaggi
10. Andriy Kotelnik

Lightweight
ESB Champ: Juan Manuel Marquez
1. Joel Casamayor
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Edwin Valero
4. Ali Funeka
5. Joan Guzman
6. Rolando Reyes
7. Paulus Moses
8. Miguel Acosta
9. Antonio DeMarco
10. Anthony Peterson

Super-Featherweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Humberto Soto
2. Robert Guerrero
3. Juan Carlos Salgado
4. Malcolm Klassen
5. Roman Martinez
6. Mzonke Fana
7. Jorge Linares
8. Sergey Gulyakevich
9. Vitali Tajbert
10. Humberto Guttierez

Featherweight
ESB Champ: Chris John
1. Steven Luevano
2. Cristobal Cruz
3. Rafael Marquez
4. Ello Rojas
5. Yuriorkis Gamboa
6. Rocky Juarez
7. Israel Vasquez
9. Daniel Ponce De Leon
9. Jorge Solis
10. Rogers Mtagwa


Super-Bantamweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Juan Manuel Lopez
2. Celestino Caballero
3. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
4. Toshiaki Nishioka
5. Steve Moliter
6. Jeffrey Mathebula
7. Ricardo Cordoba
8. Gerry Penalosa
9. Rendall Munroe
10. Jhonny Gonzalez

Bantamweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Hozumi Hasegawa
2. Yohnny Perez
3. Anselmo Moreno
4. Joseph Agbeko
4. Fernando Montiel
5. Wladimir Sidorenko
7. Silence Mabuza
8. Nehomar Cermeno
9. Abner Mares
10. Sasha Bakhtin

Super-Flyweight
ESB Champ: Vic Darchinyan
1. Alexander Munoz
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Simphiwe Nongqayi
4. Marvin Sonsona
5. Jorge Arce
6.. Hugo Cazares
7. Nobou Nashiro
8. Jose Lopez
9. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
10. Tomas Rojas

Flyweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Omar Narvaez
2. Denkaosan Kaovichit
3. Koki Kameda
4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
5. Moruti Mthalane
6. Luis Concepcion
7. Takefumi Sakata
8. Daisuke Naito
9. Julio Cesar Miranda
10. Cesar Seda Jr

Light-Flyweight
ESB Champ: Ivan Calderon
1. Rodel Mayol
2. Brian Viloria
3. Giovanni Segura
4. Edgar Sosa
5. Ulises Solis
6. Ryo Miyazaki
7. Brahim Asloum
8. Sonny Boy Jara
9. Cesar Canchilla
10. Carlos Tamara

Minimumweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Roman Gonzalez
2. Raul Garcia
3. Oleydong Sithsamerchai
4. Donnie Nietes
5. Nkosinathi Joyi
6. Juan Palacios
7. Milan Milendo
8. Florante Condes
9. Ronald Barrera
10. Manuel Vargas


December 2009 Results


Heavyweight

Cristobal Arreola (9) beat Brian Minto (unranked) via Round 4 TKO – No Movement
Alexander Povetkin (2) beat Leo Noble (unranked) via Round 3 TKO – No movement


Cruiserweight

Danny Green (Unranked) beat Roy Jones Jnr (5 Light Heavyweight) via Round 1 TKO - Green to 10, Jones now unranked
Troy Ross (10) beat Daniel Bispo (unranked) via round 1 KO – Ross now unranked due to Danny Green win
Marco Huck (2) beat Ola Afolabi (8) via 12 round UD for Huck's WBO cruiserweight title – Afolabi down to 9th



Light Heavyweight

Bernard Hopkins (2) beat Enrique Onelas (unranked) via 12 Round UD - No Movement
Hugo Hernan Garraay now ranked 10.


Middleweight

Matthew Macklin (6) beat Rafael Sosa Pintos via 10 Round UD – No Movement
Paul Williams beat (3 MW) beat Sergio Martinez via 12 round MD at middleweight

Light Welterweight

Amir Khan (6) beat Dmitiry Salita (unranked) via Round 1 TKO for Khan's WBA junior welterweight title – Khan to 3rd

[robpalmer135]

Let me know your thoughts and changes I may have missed.

[Flea Man]

Looking pretty good to be honest :good

[Beeston Brawler]

The only one I would dispute is Vasquez being in the top 10.

I know he stepped up to feather in his last fight, and won, but it was aganist a career bantamweight who had lost most of his recent fights (several in a row I think) by stoppage...... and he looked shit in doing so.

Other than that, top marks.

[robpalmer135]

The only one I would dispute is Vasquez being in the top 10.

I know he stepped up to feather in his last fight, and won, but it was aganist a career bantamweight who had lost most of his recent fights (several in a row I think) by stoppage...... and he looked shit in doing so.

Other than that, top marks.

reason i put him back in is because msot people voted him top 5 in there P4P but we took him out due to inactivity. i agree with you Beeston so if a few more come on board i will change

[Flea Man]

Yep I believe Vasquez and Marquez haven't done enough in the past 12 months to justify it. B-Hop would just about scrape in due to pavlik not being as long ago as Rafa-Izzy 3.

[Mazallan]

How long does a fighter have to be inactive to be pulled from the rankings?

I am just talking about Hatton on this. Even if he does come back it will be mid-late next year.

Great to see the list looking good.

[robpalmer135]

How long does a fighter have to be inactive to be pulled from the rankings?

I am just talking about Hatton on this. Even if he does come back it will be mid-late next year.

Great to see the list looking good.

365 days unless they have an official fight scheduled aka Hopkins

[Flea Man]

Also, I feel Hasegawa should be above JuanMa and Donaire. I'm too late to make a difference but oh, well :good

[Mazallan]

365 days unless they have an official fight scheduled aka Hopkins


Thanks.

It would be an idea to save the list how it is before fights happen and it changes and then re post it next christmas and we can check where people are then in comparison.

[Grant1]

How is Chad Dawson LHW Champ but B-hop higher P4P?

NB - Didn't get involved first time around so apologies if this has been covered previously.

[Flea Man]

How is Chad Dawson LHW Champ but B-hop higher P4P?

NB - Didn't get involved first time around so apologies if this has been covered previously.

Dawson has a belt at Light-Heavy, as does Pascal do you want him to be ranked above Hop too??!?!?

[Grant1]

Dawson has a belt at Light-Heavy, as does Pascal do you want him to be ranked above Hop too??!?!?

Who mentioned belts :lol:

You've got Chad as 'ESB Champ' implying he is the best LH but then you've got B-Hop miles ahead P4P.

[robpalmer135]

Who mentioned belts :lol:

You've got Chad as 'ESB Champ' implying he is the best LH but then you've got B-Hop miles ahead P4P.

Divisional rankings do not affect P4P. Number 1,2,4,6,7 and 8 are not number 1 in there Division but are not P4P champion.

Dawson has faced better Light Heavyweights in the past 2 years, but Hopkins has faced better fighters (Pavlik, Calzaghe Loss SD)

[doug.ie]

i have questions.

who compiles these ratings ?..like is it anyone and everyone on esb voting and one guy compiles it ?
what makes someone champion of their division ?..like, why is esb welter champ vacant?

[robpalmer135]

i have questions.

who compiles these ratings ?..like is it anyone and everyone on esb voting and one guy compiles it ?
what makes someone champion of their division ?..like, why is esb welter champ vacant?

before the summer Kosaros started putting them together with help from myself and Losfer Words. then everyone on the Brit forum got involved and added there input. the P4P was done with a vote, and movement happen when a couple of posters agree.

Someone who is clearly the number 1 in a division is champion. We follow the same rule as the Ring where if the number 1 ranked fighter faces the number 2 or even 3, they become Champion. ESB welter is vacant because Cotto beat Mosley, Margorito beat Cotto, Mosley beat Margorito. Mayweather didnt beat a Welterweight, and Pacquiao beat Cotto who was at number 2.

we have british rankings as well in a sticky, they have not been updated in a while. Think Kos will get round to it soon.

every brit forum regular should try and input. I think its a good way of the true fans on here knowing whether a a challanger is a legitimate one or not.

[doug.ie]

fair enough..and best of luck with it.

personally, and i'm not knocking it, i'd like to see, say, a ten man esb panel who would debate among themselves the results of the posters choices...with one man, say yourself, heading up the panel...and compile the ratings based on that...but that could be hard to organise.

[robpalmer135]

fair enough..and best of luck with it.

personally, and i'm not knocking it, i'd like to see, say, a ten man esb panel who would debate among themselves the results of the posters choices...with one man, say yourself, heading up the panel...and compile the ratings based on that...but that could be hard to organise.

I tend to agree Doug its an idea i put forward previously. It pretty much happens anyway as only regular posters will post on the rankings every week, and only respected posters will be listend to.

If anyone is interested in doing what Doug said, PM me and i will look into a way of setting it up. We should do the same for the British rankings as well.

[Flea Man]

Who mentioned belts :lol:

You've got Chad as 'ESB Champ' implying he is the best LH but then you've got B-Hop miles ahead P4P.

Shit, my bad:good

[kosaros]

Very good Rob, only real problems I see are that there are 12 boxers in the heavyweight division and Adamek's name is spelt wrong :lol:

Also, Z Gorres sadly won't be fighting again so he will have to be replaced in the rankings.

[robpalmer135]

Very good Rob, only real problems I see are that there are 12 boxers in the heavyweight division and Adamek's name is spelt wrong :lol:

Also, Z Gorres sadly won't be fighting again so he will have to be replaced in the rankings.

What division??

[ishy]

Israel Vazquez the 6th best boxer in the world when he's had only one fight since March last year and that was against a journeyman type?

Similar thing with Rafa Marquez who's #9 P4P/

[PaddyD1983]

Great list, and great work Rob!

Havent got time to go through it with a toothcomb, but it looks pretty good to me.

Small comments... I too have issues with Izzy being ranked so high in P4P list. Inactivity and then a nothing fight last month? Same applies to R Marquez for me too.

I'd also have no issue with calling Kessler the SMW champ, but I understand if you're waiting for the super six to finish before naming that one.

[robpalmer135]

Great list, and great work Rob!

Havent got time to go through it with a toothcomb, but it looks pretty good to me.

Small comments... I too have issues with Izzy being ranked so high in P4P list. Inactivity and then a nothing fight last month? Same applies to R Marquez for me too.

I'd also have no issue with calling Kessler the SMW champ, but I understand if you're waiting for the super six to finish before naming that one.

I am going to do a new P4P.

Please PM me your lists. I will start a thread to.

Kessler has not beat anyone since his Calzaghe loss to deserve that crown. whoever wins the Super 6 will be champion. Infact if Kessler beats Ward, the winner of Froch vs Kessler will be.

[robpalmer135]

This weekends changes

Cruiserweight

Zsolt Erdei (4 LHW) beat Giacobbe Fragomeni (3) via 12 round UD, for Fragomeni's WBC cruiserweight title – Erdei to 3rd, Fragomeni to 10th, Karo Murat to 10th at LHW

Super Middleweight

Andre Ward (7) beat Mikkel Kessler (1) 11 round UD (Cuts) for Kessler's WBA super middleweight title – Ward to 1st, Kessler to 5th

Light Welterweight

Marcos Maidana (7) beat William Gonzalez via round 3 TKO – No Movement

Super Featherweight

Vitali Tajbert beat (unranked) Humberto Mauro Gutierrez ( via 12 round UD – Tajbert to 9th, Gutierrez unranked
Jorge Barrios (6 SFW) beat Michael Lozada, 12 rounds at lightweight – Barrios now unranked at LW, Humberto Martinez 10 at SFW

Super Bantamweight

Rendall Munroe (10) beat Simone Maludrottu (unranked) via 12 Round UD for Munroe's European super bantamweight title – Munroe to 9th
Steve Molitor (5) beat Jose Saez via 8 round UD – No Movment

Super Flyweight to Minimum

Moruti Mthalane ( beat Julio Cesar Miranda (6) via 12 round UD for vacant IBF flyweight title – Mthalane to 5th, Miranda to 9th
Rodel Mayol (unranked) beat Edgar Sosa (1) via Round 2 TKO for Sosa's WBC light flyweight title – Mayol to 1st, Sosa to 4th

Giovani Segura (3) vs. Sonny Boy Jaro (unranked) 12 round, for Segura's WBA light flyweight title – No Movment

[robpalmer135]

p4p up.

[robpalmer135]

This weekend changes have been made

Super Middleweight

Lucian Bute (3) beat Librado Andrade (6) via Round 4 KO in a rematch for Bute's IBF super middleweight title – Bute to 2nd, Andrade down to 9th.

Lightweight
Ali Funeka (6) drew with Joan Guzman (4) over 12 rounds, for vacant IBF lightweight title – Funeka moves ahead to 4th, Guzman down to 5th (Funeka clearly won, these are fan rankings shit judges will not effect them

Flyweightwill not affect them)
Koki Kameda (8) beat Daisuke Naito (2) via 12 round UD for Naito's WBC flyweight title – Kameda to 3rd, Naito to 8th

[robpalmer135]

November fighter of the month nominess are;

Lucian Bute
Andre Ward
Manny Pacquiao
David Haye
Chad Dawson
Zsolt Eredi

I am going with

1) Manny Pacquiao
2) Andre Ward
3) David Haye

[liamo1982]

I'd go with

1)Manny Pacquio
2)Andre Ward
3)Lucian Bute

Although Haye won I dont feel it was as impressive as Bute's was although Zsolt Eredi deserves a mention.

[Raashid]

Someone who is clearly the number 1 in a division is champion. We follow the same rule as the Ring where if the number 1 ranked fighter faces the number 2 or even 3, they become Champion.

Does linearity not come into the equation? In days gone by when there was just a single champion in each division, the champ could conceivabbly not be the best in the division.

[robpalmer135]

Does linearity not come into the equation? In days gone by when there was just a single champion in each division, the champ could conceivabbly not be the best in the division.

that makes no sense??

[robpalmer135]

rankings now on the front page.

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[Losfer_Words]

Please remember that these rankings were put together over a 2 week period by ESB members. If you think there crap its your own fault for not getting invovled.



:roflRob, you are brilliant:lol:.