Anybody notice with Mayweather?

[Cruiser1]

Does anyone else feel that Mayweather's antics at these press conferences seem forced? He tries to be the villain but it just doesn't come out right. You gotta have a certain amount of charisma to play that role and u have to have the ability to draw the ire of the people. Floyd just seemingly draws indifference. At least that's the way I see it. When Floyd came out in a chariot to the Gatti fight I was like "Ok whatever" and when he wore a gladiator outfit against Baldomir I thought "Camacho did it better." It seems that you can be a great fighter but not a great showman. Only a select few can be both and Floyd is not the latter.

[istmeno]

the nuthuggers are coming, and they are going to get you.

[Illstate]

Floyd isnt a real villain. He tries to play the part but I agree, he lacks the showmanship or the charisma. I dont know why he acts that way either, earlier in his career he was a nice kid and was polite, and then he just turned into the biggest fucking immautre prick in the sportWHen Floyd Mayweather fought Oscar De Lahoya there were people on this board wishing death, or great bodily harm on him.
I don't think he has a problem getting people to hate him.
He may be playing the role better than even macho Camacho. I don't remeember people wishing death on him

[Cruiser1]

WHen Floyd Mayweather fought Oscar De Lahoya there were people on this board wishing death, or great bodily harm on him.
I don't think he has a problem getting people to hate him.
He may be playing the role better than even macho Camacho. I don't remeember people wishing death on him

And this is normal behavior? To wish harm on someone? :-(

[istmeno]

Mayweather could take some lessons from the greatest showman of his era, the one and only Macho Man Hector Camacho.:good

funny thing is you are right. hector just had that arrogance in his demeanor and attitude, and it came naturally. he just seemed to be a dick by nature. but he had a lot of charisma. always smiling and knew how to play the crowd. he could piss you off but not alienate you. he walked the fine line.

and i was on the side of the line who could not stand him. but admired the talent.

[Illstate]

funny thing is you are right. hector just had that arrogance in his demeanor and attitude, and it came naturally. he just seemed to be a dick by nature. but he had a lot of charisma. always smiling and knew how to play the crowd. he could piss you off but not alienate you. he walked the fine line.

and i was on the side of the line who could not stand him. but admired the talent.That's true, but that is not the reason fighterss play the villain role.
The reason they play that role is to sell ppv to people hoping that the great noble hero can shut the mouth of the villain.

[He Hate Me]

Prince naseem hamed was probably more arogant and showy than both put together.

[o_money]

Does anyone else feel that Mayweather's antics at these press conferences seem forced? He tries to be the villain but it just doesn't come out right. You gotta have a certain amount of charisma to play that role and u have to have the ability to draw the ire of the people. Floyd just seemingly draws indifference. At least that's the way I see it. When Floyd came out in a chariot to the Gatti fight I was like "Ok whatever" and when he wore a gladiator outfit against Baldomir I thought "Camacho did it better." It seems that you can be a great fighter but not a great showman. Only a select few can be both and Floyd is not the latter.

True But I do give him credit for trying.

[istmeno]

That's true, but that is not the reason fighterss play the villain role.
The reason they play that role is to sell ppv to people hoping that the great noble hero can shut the mouth of the villain.

the problem with the approach that pbf takes, is it will achieve his goal in a fight against a fighter with a strong following, but when he faces a fighter that has no personality or big fan base, he is fucked. because people simply will not tune in.

[Illstate]

I mean this thread proves he's good at it.
People hate him so much that they dont even want to admit that he's good at being hated. Now that's some good hate there.
If that's not a villain what is?
I think maybe he's not the likeable villain or something. That's the only way I can understand this thread

[o_money]

Does anyone else feel that Mayweather's antics at these press conferences seem forced? He tries to be the villain but it just doesn't come out right. You gotta have a certain amount of charisma to play that role and u have to have the ability to draw the ire of the people. Floyd just seemingly draws indifference. At least that's the way I see it. When Floyd came out in a chariot to the Gatti fight I was like "Ok whatever" and when he wore a gladiator outfit against Baldomir I thought "Camacho did it better." It seems that you can be a great fighter but not a great showman. Only a select few can be both and Floyd is not the latter.


I think you have a point but I'll also say that I've noticed that his antics in this fight seem much more forced then when he fought gatti or DLH. I think he feels like now that he's defeated DLH and he is such a big star he shouldn't have to or doesn't feel the need to play the villan. Because after all if your the draw (or at least a big draw) you shouldn't have to get people to heat you in order to get them to watch you. I kinda get the feeling he's saying to him self "why the fuck do I still have to be acting like this?"

[o_money]

I think he's played a very good villan in the past and i think it's come pretty naturally but he's does seem to be forcing it these days.

[Lance_Uppercut]

It seems like he's playing a part. And not very good. I mean, he does get people to hate him, but not because he's a bad guy ala' Tyson or arrogant like Hamed. Bernard Hopkins played a bad guy but with him it felt and sounded legit. Floyd comes off like a bad actor. Luckily he fights, and hopefully dances, better then he acts.

[Marnoff]

WHen Floyd Mayweather fought Oscar De Lahoya there were people on this board wishing death, or great bodily harm on him.
I don't think he has a problem getting people to hate him.
He may be playing the role better than even macho Camacho. I don't remeember people wishing death on him

Yep.

[David UK]

Whilst he a brilliant boxer he doesn't appeal to the mainstream one bit, hence the 'bad guy' image to try and generate some interest in him. It's an act. No one could really be that much of a wanker!!

[SteveO]

Everyone wouldn't be all stirred up about Floyd if he wasn't so arrogant. Take away the arrogance, and you have a great boxer but not a love/hate boxer. I think he does a lot for the PPV sales. The days of the "aww shucks" champs like Marciano are over and Floyd is just doing what he wants and I'm sure I'd play the bad guy too if it meant pocketing the kind of money that he does. You need 2 clashing personalities in the sport, it seems. People like the hero and villan. Two heroes can be good, but the press coverage is less exciting. Two villains can be a bit "much." A guy as good as Floyd would have trouble playing the nice guy, I think.

[Rise Above]

I like Floyd, he attracts alot of publicity for boxing, not to mention being one of the slickest boxers I have seen.

[platnumpapi]

wrong all wrong, mayweather plays his roles very well.either you love him or hate him, either you want him to win or you want him to lose.pbf could careless e know he will win.fans against him does not bother him, shit the have to buy tickest and pay per view as well.

so this is why hes becoming a bigger and bigger draw.people want to see floyd thats all there is to it, either to show is masterful boxing gift or run.people want to see him win or lose that depends on if you are a fan or not.

but if mayweather pisses you off or makes you wish you could slap the shit out of him or you wish he would knocked the fuck out, then 9 times out of 10
he is doing his job and doing it well.

thats how i see it.

[koko of phil]

One thing I notice on Floyd, he tries to be different than any boxer. I think he is imitating someone. He wants to be unique by acting a bad guy or tries to be outrageous in this sport, but obviously doesn't fit him naturally. Muhammad Ali is the only one I know who came that out genuinely. Oh I guess I said it who PBF tries to be like. :tired

[VIP]

Mayweather is generating more interest and drawing more fans to see him either win or lose. I agree withe the few saying he is doing a decent job. It's all about the money, money comes first then his legacy. Right now he is generating more money than he would by playing a nice, polite guy. It's not all an act though he does hang around nightclubs, and his friend fiddy cent. :think

There has been some naturals over the years though, with Ali being the best of em. Then you got guys like Naseem Hamed, Hector Camacho or nowadays Ricardo Mayorga. Mayorga fought his best since a few years ago when he knocked out Six Head Lewis and Forest at 147. And he's been knocked the hell out twice since then. But the guy can still sell fights with his outrageous behaviour.

[Fab2333]

Floyd isnt a real villain. He tries to play the part but I agree, he lacks the showmanship or the charisma. I dont know why he acts that way either, earlier in his career he was a nice kid and was polite, and then he just turned into the biggest fucking immautre prick in the sport

its called marketing, people love when there is a good guy bad guy situation. It sells, people want to see good prevail so they will continue 2 tune in 2 see if it can happen. THis is all marketing, FLoyd not really like that

[Illmatic]

Mayweather could take some lessons from the greatest showman of his era, the one and only Macho Man Hector Camacho.:good

Hamed was the greatest showman since Ali.

[AmazingHook]

its called marketing, people love when there is a good guy bad guy situation. It sells, people want to see good prevail so they will continue 2 tune in 2 see if it can happen. THis is all marketing, FLoyd not really like that

True:good

[AmazingHook]

Hamed was the greatest showman since Ali.

:lol: ...Yeah, Hamed was definitely one of the best when it comes to being a showman.:happy

[istmeno]

the problem i see with the way pbf goes about his playing the role, it is a one and done. tyson lost, but waas still a draw. once pbf loses, his act will not play the same.

[Thread Stealer]

Does anyone else feel that Mayweather's antics at these press conferences seem forced? He tries to be the villain but it just doesn't come out right. You gotta have a certain amount of charisma to play that role and u have to have the ability to draw the ire of the people. Floyd just seemingly draws indifference. At least that's the way I see it. When Floyd came out in a chariot to the Gatti fight I was like "Ok whatever" and when he wore a gladiator outfit against Baldomir I thought "Camacho did it better." It seems that you can be a great fighter but not a great showman. Only a select few can be both and Floyd is not the latter.

I noticed that awhile ago.

He would be better to play the smiling nice guy like Oscar, as he did when he was on Jay Leno after he beat Oscar, but I don't know if his ego can stand it.

[bigeddie27]

Floyd isnt a real villain. He tries to play the part but I agree, he lacks the showmanship or the charisma. I dont know why he acts that way either, earlier in his career he was a nice kid and was polite, and then he just turned into the biggest fucking immautre prick in the sport
thats cause when he was nice, everyone still hated on him. I remeber a post fight interview with larry merchant after he knocked out angel manfredy (haha i love how angel tried to say it was a bullshit stoppage), larry was asking him questions floyd seemed very humble and polite, Then, being the asshole that larry always is (and god bless him), says 'your only quick in the ring floyd.' lol - i mean that was fucked up but really funny. And I am a huge mayweather fan, but i can see why he hates larry and eveyone else for that matter.

[Fab2333]

I noticed that awhile ago.

He would be better to play the smiling nice guy like Oscar, as he did when he was on Jay Leno after he beat Oscar, but I don't know if his ego can stand it.

Common Erratic, we all know this is just marketing, nothing more nothing less. ANd him on Jay Leno proves it. Floyd is not the person he portrays in 24/7, and in the media, he jsut does that for ratings, and to get more people to buy his fights. The more buys equal more money.
People need 2 see that. People on here say how much of a prick he is etc. they cant stand him etc. But there arses are buying the fights, and thats all that matters to Floyd. Trust this is marketing. Somebody has to b the good guy and somebody ahs to be the bad guy always. If everyone was just complimenting each other it wouldnt b as anticipatin, or intriguing rather. I mean people would have still watched, but it wouldnt have had the "buzz" surrounding it now

[Marnoff]

Tyson was also a great showman. He could really sell his fights.

[samita]

It seems like he's playing a part. And not very good. I mean, he does get people to hate him, but not because he's a bad guy ala' Tyson or arrogant like Hamed. Bernard Hopkins played a bad guy but with him it felt and sounded legit. Floyd comes off like a bad actor. Luckily he fights, and hopefully dances, better then he acts.
exactly what I think. He's hated because his act is forced like fuck and his so-called thuggish ruggish persona screams PHONY.

[samita]

I'm all for trashtalking, its entertaining and definitely helps selling the fight. In a fight against DLH for example, you need to be a prick since DLH will always come across as the nice guy with that big fake smile.
But problem is that Floyd tries too hard.

[bachatu]

It seems like he tries too hard to get attention. He seems like a guy who really likes attention and acts like a kid to get it. Either way, you can't take it too serious. A lot of people really really hate the guy because of how he acts.... alot of it is acting.
I think someone like Mayorga does a much better job of playing the villain

[samita]

It seems like he tries too hard to get attention. He seems like a guy who really likes attention and acts like a kid to get it. Either way, you can't take it too serious. A lot of people really really hate the guy because of how he acts.... alot of it is acting.
I think someone like Mayorga does a much better job of playing the villain
Yeah I think so as well. Mayorga plays the villain brilliantly. greatest trashtalker of all time next to toney.

[DamonD]

Someone mentioned this off-hand here but I hadn't really thought about it yet...I hope PBF has some outrageous outfit to wear for the ringwalk again. Always worth a laugh. That gladiator get-up was priceless.

[bigeddie27]

Someone mentioned this off-hand here but I hadn't really thought about it yet...I hope PBF has some outrageous outfit to wear for the ringwalk again. Always worth a laugh. That gladiator get-up was priceless.

he should dress up as a redcoat.

[Cruiser1]

Hamed was the greatest showman since Ali.

Chris Eubank deserves mention here. He was a great showman.

[bmf95b]

he is a wanna be GANGSTA but really aint shit. ALL HE CAN DO IS CUSS.

[brooklyn1550]

Floyd is playing the role of bad guy....to bring in more $$$

[Loufatski]

Does anyone else feel that Mayweather's antics at these press conferences seem forced? He tries to be the villain but it just doesn't come out right. You gotta have a certain amount of charisma to play that role and u have to have the ability to draw the ire of the people. Floyd just seemingly draws indifference. At least that's the way I see it. When Floyd came out in a chariot to the Gatti fight I was like "Ok whatever" and when he wore a gladiator outfit against Baldomir I thought "Camacho did it better." It seems that you can be a great fighter but not a great showman. Only a select few can be both and Floyd is not the latter.

Bottom line, don't try to be someone you're not.

[KhanB]

he is a wanna be GANGSTA but really aint shit. ALL HE CAN DO IS CUSS.

He does the Gangsta act mainly in Vegas or at press conferences. Im sure when he goes back to Michigan, especially in Detroit, he's more humble.

[brownshell]

Haters of Floyd really amaze me. He's called Gayweather, Mayflower and all sorts of gay hating stuff. Now you're hating on how he acts when that's exactly what it is 'AN ACT!!!' I think all these haters really want to be like Floyd and touch his stuff while they are at it.

[Popshots]

Prince naseem hamed was probably more arogant and showy than both put together.

I agree. I liked him as a fighter, but there were times when I wanted to ring his skinny neck. I think Floyd does a great job in playing the villian. Need proof? Just look at all of the hatred he get on this site.

[Alo2006]

I disagree, he must be playing the villian good, because a lot of people on here hate him :yep besides, it was done to bring in the big money.

[unclepaulie]

when someone is dominant people always look for reasons that they aren't as good as they plainly are. always.

[Danny Ocean]

pbf is forced to play the villian to sell ppvs ,his ppvs outsell everyone except oscars so it must work

[Marnoff]

pbf is forced to play the villian to sell ppvs ,his ppvs outsell everyone except oscars so it must work

His skills are the primary factor, but the villain act I suppose brings in some extras. I wonder what percentage want to see him fight alone, and how many are drawn in by what he does/says.

[achillesthegreat]

Floyd knows what he needs to do to make money and get PPVs. Floyds PPV numbers are irrefutable. Say what you want about his opponent but they won't make those PPV numbers without him. Gatti, Judah and Baldo are not PPV fighters and Floyd made more than 300,000 buys with them. DLH is huge but he was his biggest with Floyd. Ricky is huge but he is at his biggest with Floyd.

Floyd plays the bad guy against people he needs to i.e. Hatton, DLH and Gatti. He won't win their fans, nor the pundits. Against Judah, he played the good guy and it worked.

Mama didn't raise no fool.

[PolishPummler]

Floyd just isnt sharp,witty or funny enough to make for a good bad guy.

[Toopretty]

Floyd just isnt sharp,witty or funny enough to make for a good bad guy. You have proven yourself wrong.:rofl Floyd is the most hated fighter or fucking sports figure I can think of. He even got TO beat. WOW.

[PolishPummler]

You have proven yourself wrong.:rofl Floyd is the most hated fighter or fucking sports figure I can think of. He even got TO beat. WOW.

Not even close to a T.O.

He is a generic version of Hamed.

[AmazingHook]

Floyd is only being Floyd and wheather you like him or not you want to see him fight and that's the most important thing.

[AmazingHook]

Not even close to a T.O.

He is a generic version of Hamed.

Yeah, that's true.