Mark DeMori

[Sapphire]

Will you fight again this year???

does anyone know where he is? or what he is doing???

[Dr Gonzo]

he was in the US signing with Don King but i think he is back in Oz training again now :)

[dakota prince]

Mark de mori is crap.
just saw his spar with shane cameron.
shane was all over him. he was lucky that shane didnt finish him off

[Dr Gonzo]

Mark de mori is crap.
just saw his spar with shane cameron.
shane was all over him. he was lucky that shane didnt finish him off

you'll be lucky if he doesnt finish you off :bbb:!:

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Mark de mori is crap.
just saw his spar with shane cameron.
shane was all over him. he was lucky that shane didnt finish him off


Show some resepct noob...

[Sapphire]

Mark de mori is crap.
just saw his spar with shane cameron.
shane was all over him. he was lucky that shane didnt finish him off

I think de Mori is a great fighter I'd like to see him more active and fighting bigger names in Aus like Big Col Wilson, Briggs or Pat Kennedy I think alot of people would like to see those fights. and I know for a fact that 2/3 of those blokes would love a crack at de Mori and Col has probably never heard of the bloke and doesn't care but he'll fight him anyway.

[maco_187]

its only a spar, you dont know the conditions like if mark was in fighting shape, if he was preparing for a fight or if shane was, there is too many different scenarios thats why its called sparring so both fighters can gain something from it....

[Bobby]

it has been frustrating fighting once this year, but getting visa and going to usa has put stuff on hold, i should fight before the end of the year in the usa,this is the first year i have been able to train seriously , last year (cameron sparring) i was training myself and admittedly was not really going places doing so but thanks to sponsors i have now improved out of sight with proper training, i have never claimed to be anything special i just train fight and do my best, hope fully you guys realise as a 25 year old with 11 ams i have plenty of time to reach my peak and support me on my goal to be the oz tommy morrison and be involved in some awesome slugfests in the big smoke

[Bobby]

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while i dont agree with the ratings as i shouldnt be n umber 2 based on my competition, look at the ages of the top guys and you will see why dkp bothered with me,not many young prospects around

[Darthmage]

mark, I always wondered what happened to you this last year. I'm rooting for you bro, keep on training hard bro, I wish you the best. If you are ever in the south florida area let me know man Ill go watch you train/fight.

[Bobby]

darthmage, is warriors boxing in florida? they seem to have alot of heavyweight shows so maybe i will get there

[MSTR]

All Aboard the Mark DeMori Express ..... Good luck mate. hopefully you kill them in the states.

[MSTR]

Mark de mori is crap.
just saw his spar with shane cameron.
shane was all over him. he was lucky that shane didnt finish him off
I haven't seen it yet but Who cares anyway. A less experienced fighter taking on a much more experienced fighter in Cameron. Mark has said that he had a pretty limited amatuer career. His record is pretty good considering. Sparring is great for learning, not to go out and prove something.

[maco_187]

mark you are exactly right at 25 your young, you have still a few good years where you can continue learning and improving untill you get to about 30-31 then youll really need to be fighting strong opposition if your going anywhere, i think some people dont realise that in the heavyweight division that there is no real young guys under 25, yes there is the odd occasion but most at the top are older, more experienced and more seasoned pro's this is why it would take time for soemone like yourself mark to fight someone like that, there experience alone would cause problems in a fight...

[Kegsy]

I haven't seen it yet but Who cares anyway. A less experienced fighter taking on a much more experienced fighter in Cameron. Mark has said that he had a pretty limited amatuer career. His record is pretty good considering. Sparring is great for learning, not to go out and prove something.Couldnt have said it any better.:good

[Bobby]

to those who understand the game i appreciate the support, it can be frustrating watching aus prospects take their time before stepping up but anyone who has that luxury does it, it is the right way to go and it will help my brain in the long run, i do not dream at night about fighting fijians i dream about fighting the best but it takes years and years of dedication to be good enough just to get a shot at the top guys

[MSTR]

to those who understand the game i appreciate the support, it can be frustrating watching aus prospects take their time before stepping up but anyone who has that luxury does it, it is the right way to go and it will help my brain in the long run, i do not dream at night about fighting fijians i dream about fighting the best but it takes years and years of dedication to be good enough just to get a shot at the top guys
I think its a great move. The sparring, coaching, facilities and opponents for a heavy would IMO be much better in the states. You could have been like everyone else and like you said beat up on the fresh ones coming off the boat, but decided to take a chance. Even at worst if you get beaten badly at least you honestly know where you stand, and can then improve the parts of the game that you need to.

[Marcus]

Well said Mark :good

Best of luck mate, i cant wait to see you fighting in America.


Go Mark DeMori

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[LeonMcS]

Good luck mate, you've got a great oppurtunity, hope to see you fighting soon.

[Spartan_Boxer]

All the best and Good Luck mate!

[huricn]

to those who understand the game i appreciate the support, it can be frustrating watching aus prospects take their time before stepping up but anyone who has that luxury does it, it is the right way to go and it will help my brain in the long run, i do not dream at night about fighting fijians i dream about fighting the best but it takes years and years of dedication to be good enough just to get a shot at the top guys


hi mark how r u? just a quick question.

i have this young bloke(21) started training at my gym he is a body builder and about 118kg now he wants to box he has told me because of the size of his legs he can not run. is this true and did u have the same problem when u started boxing. and if he cant run wat did u do for stamina

[ozziebattler]

Goodluck Mark..

You seem to have your head switched on and very honest with your capabilities thus far..25 is still heaps young for the heavies.

Hope you can succeed and ko a few yanks..

Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie oi oi oi

[Bobby]

leckie, i do not believe running is important for a boxer unless he is going to be an ali type dancer, this guy doesnt sound like that, for those that think running is important im happy to argue the point based on science not what some bloke with a beanie and a face scar told him at the local pcyc, you need to train specific, i am a power puncher so i try to find the right balance of power and endurance in my legs ,
as for him saying he cant run? Kevin Levrone (top pro bodybuilder ) does alot of sprints and he has gigantic legs, so im not sold on the idea based on muscle mass, if he has injuries to the knees or shin splints then fair enough, a guy that size should run on a treadmill or do water sprints (can give you more info) which is what i had to do when i was 115kg and trying to trim down for boxing.
if he is a bodybuilder he may need to change his weight training if he is serious about the sport, bodybuilding training is about a slow controlled movements with medium weights and reps that will not help maximal strength or speed, i can point you in the right direction for a better way to maintain muscle mass while being more specific if you need.
sorry for the long answer but there are so many variables on the running thing, i beleive every person and boxing style has different needs, happy to give you any info you need strength and conditioning is one of my passions

[Bobby]

btw, huge thanks to those above that wish me well, and to those who dont, hopefully i can make you eat your words ;)

[WhataRock]

Hey Mark Ive been reading some people say that traditional weightlifting for boxing is no good but the kind of stuff they do for competition weightlifting is.
Know anything about that?

[ozziebattler]

leckie, i do not believe running is important for a boxer unless he is going to be an ali type dancer, this guy doesnt sound like that, for those that think running is important im happy to argue the point based on science not what some bloke with a beanie and a face scar told him at the local pcyc, you need to train specific, i am a power puncher so i try to find the right balance of power and endurance in my legs ,
as for him saying he cant run? Kevin Levrone (top pro bodybuilder ) does alot of sprints and he has gigantic legs, so im not sold on the idea based on muscle mass, if he has injuries to the knees or shin splints then fair enough, a guy that size should run on a treadmill or do water sprints (can give you more info) which is what i had to do when i was 115kg and trying to trim down for boxing.
if he is a bodybuilder he may need to change his weight training if he is serious about the sport, bodybuilding training is about a slow controlled movements with medium weights and reps that will not help maximal strength or speed, i can point you in the right direction for a better way to maintain muscle mass while being more specific if you need.
sorry for the long answer but there are so many variables on the running thing, i beleive every person and boxing style has different needs, happy to give you any info you need strength and conditioning is one of my passions

Cant run because his big legs???:bart

Jonah lomu and mal meninga both ran well considering they had tree trunk legs...

[WhataRock]

Cant run because his big legs???:bart

Jonah lomu and mal meninga both ran well considering they had tree trunk legs...

Dont think he ever said that oz.

Mark actually uses an example of a pro bodybuilder with huge legs, even bigger than lomu's and big mals i imagine, running.

[ozziebattler]

Dont think he ever said that oz.

Mark actually uses an example of a pro bodybuilder with huge legs, even bigger than lomu's and big mals i imagine, running.

Im commenting on the bodybuilder guy who just started training to box...

Not taking a swipe at mark..Sorry if it came across like that..

[Bobby]

whata rock, olympic weight lifting is the best for building power and explosiveness, i include power cleans and push presses in my training for that reason,most coaches say to avoid weights because it makes the boxer slow, if done properly weight training can make the boxer faster, slow controlled movements and isolation exercises and machines however are not ideal for boxing,

[LeonMcS]

Pretty sure Holyfield was an avid weights user at the start and middle of his career, and everyone back then shook their heads at him for his non traditonal methods.
Doesn't seem to have done him no harm.

[Bobby]

he also quit running
full detailed program here-
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[ozziebattler]

whata rock, olympic weight lifting is the best for building power and explosiveness, i include power cleans and push presses in my training for that reason,most coaches say to avoid weights because it makes the boxer slow, if done properly weight training can make the boxer faster, slow controlled movements and isolation exercises and machines however are not ideal for boxing,

Agree with you 100%...

Afl,union and league players pump shitloads of weights but doesnt seem to hamper their ability to perform with unbeleivable speed and power for long periods of time..

As Mark mentioned with a well stratured weight training program a boxer can gain better speed,power,muscluar endurance and good old :bbb explosiveness.

[Bobby]

yeah weight training should be part of every boxers workout, if done properly they will not make you biggwer just stronger and faster, unfortunately i think boxing training is the leasgt scientific out of any sport in the world that is taken seriously.
mma athletes are so advanced in their training methods i think we could learn alot from them

Leckie- did my answer help?

[Marcus]

yeah weight training should be part of every boxers workout, if done properly they will not make you biggwer just stronger and faster, unfortunately i think boxing training is the leasgt scientific out of any sport in the world that is taken seriously.
mma athletes are so advanced in their training methods i think we could learn alot from them

Leckie- did my answer help?

My bro is a strenght and conditioning coach and he is amazed at boxing, how they dont use and even want to learn new training. I think this is true is Aus, but in USA iv seen Gatti and Holifield train some new aged exercises.

I dont think old school training should be dropped but a mix of old and new could give you a edge in fitness and strenght.

[MSTR]

I have seen plenty of guys in training using explosive weights and pylometrics. Most guys at the top do these days from what I have seen and read.

[Bobby]

yeah boxing trainers specialise in boxing, not conditioning, (some can do both)
the old "ali never lifted weights " kind of remarks show a huge backlash against change and things they dont understand,

[Marcus]

Im just used to a old boxer coach only wanting old school training, hit the bag, sit ups, skipping, focus pads, sparring. But i also think its the fighter who should do extra cardio by himself and thats when he can to the new age stuff.

[Bobby]

yeah nothing beats proper boxing training, but you can get good results supplementing it with some strength andconditioning exercises, i find its much more refreshing than hitting the bags all the time too, breaks things up

[Marcus]

How are you hands Mark? Strong? Have you ever hurt/broken them? DO you do any training that isnt typical boxing traing?

Yoga? or anything? How do you prepare mentally for a fight?

[Bobby]

i hurt my hands in 05, was really frustrating, was away from home just to box and had to sit around doing nothing.

i dont really do anything out of the ordinary, boxing weights and str and con exercises.

mentally i just go into my own world a few days before the fight, most of my family say im very grumpy and withdrawn around fight time

[Marcus]

Thanks mate, i find it interesting talking to a current fighter who is open and honest. So thanks for that :good

On another note, guess what!!

Last night i got given a new set of gloves signed by Daniel Geale

:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

Seeing how he is my fav aus boxer, im pretty stoked. Ill take a pic soon of me wearing them :bbb

[Bobby]

after the fight youll be asking me for a pair from dawson ;)

[Marcus]

after the fight youll be asking me for a pair from dawson ;)

:roll: i dont think so, i do like Dawson, just not Vs Geale.

I think Dawson fights flat footed from his Muay Thai training.

[Kegsy]

after the fight youll be asking me for a pair from dawson ;)Dawson is gonna be going down in 2 weeks.
Geale will surprise alot of u guys.;)

[Bobby]

haha well see, flat footed and good head movement, power puncher style

[Kegsy]

Thanks mate, i find it interesting talking to a current fighter who is open and honest. So thanks for that :good

On another note, guess what!!

Last night i got given a new set of gloves signed by Daniel Geale

:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

Seeing how he is my fav aus boxer, im pretty stoked. Ill take a pic soon of me wearing them :bbb
Great to get a set of signed gloves. How awesome.:good

The boxer to beat the fighter come Oct 12.:yep

[Marcus]

haha well see, flat footed and good head movement, power puncher style


Your right there mate. Its hard to break the walk up style of Muay Thai training.

If my coach says to me," drop your shoulders " one more time im goin to go fuckin crazy!!!

You said he is getting really fast? Is he keeping his power still? Hows will he go with making weight? Pretty easy id guess :huh

[huricn]

leckie, i do not believe running is important for a boxer unless he is going to be an ali type dancer, this guy doesnt sound like that, for those that think running is important im happy to argue the point based on science not what some bloke with a beanie and a face scar told him at the local pcyc, you need to train specific, i am a power puncher so i try to find the right balance of power and endurance in my legs ,
as for him saying he cant run? Kevin Levrone (top pro bodybuilder ) does alot of sprints and he has gigantic legs, so im not sold on the idea based on muscle mass, if he has injuries to the knees or shin splints then fair enough, a guy that size should run on a treadmill or do water sprints (can give you more info) which is what i had to do when i was 115kg and trying to trim down for boxing.
if he is a bodybuilder he may need to change his weight training if he is serious about the sport, bodybuilding training is about a slow controlled movements with medium weights and reps that will not help maximal strength or speed, i can point you in the right direction for a better way to maintain muscle mass while being more specific if you need.
sorry for the long answer but there are so many variables on the running thing, i beleive every person and boxing style has different needs, happy to give you any info you need strength and conditioning is one of my passions

thanx mate i really appreciate all your tips. he is very keen to box and still stay strong. but because he is so strong all he wants to do is go for the big punch but im trying to teach him to pick his punches and work on combos and then the big punch will come.
while i know all the boxing moves and tips i struggle on the fitness side of things so i enrolled in a personall trainers caorse and a nutrition caorse
once again thanx for the tips

[Bobby]

leckie, doing the pt course and nutrition is awesome, shows your open to learn and become well rfounded, most trainers arent, there are some great boxing training sites and programs i can gpm to you, unless its ok to post site address on here not sure of the rules

[huricn]

leckie, doing the pt course and nutrition is awesome, shows your open to learn and become well rfounded, most trainers arent, there are some great boxing training sites and programs i can gpm to you, unless its ok to post site address on here not sure of the rules

hi mark, that would be great. if its easier for u just email them to
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thanx mate

[ozziebattler]

leckie, doing the pt course and nutrition is awesome, shows your open to learn and become well rfounded, most trainers arent, there are some great boxing training sites and programs i can gpm to you, unless its ok to post site address on here not sure of the rules

Bobby there are no rules in the aussie forum,you should know that.lol...

I am interested on some tips or good websites for fitness traning/weight training and boxing training...

Any links or tips would be great mate...:good

[Bobby]

ok then heres a couple good ones to start with

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[one in a million]

ok then heres a couple good ones to start with

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Wow you are a very helpful person, great to see in this industry.
All the best to you on you adventure through america xo :good

[Bobby]

thanks melissa, i have had to do alot of research to improve my stamina for boxing, conventional methods did nothing for me, so hopefully this can help others in the same boat

[Bobby]

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another paret to the hammer down mma training

[Darthmage]

darthmage, is warriors boxing in florida? they seem to have alot of heavyweight shows so maybe i will get there

yes Mark, Warriors boxing is in FT. Lauderdale Florida. Close to where I live.

[homer]

I think de Mori is a great fighter I'd like to see him more active and fighting bigger names in Aus like Big Col Wilson, Briggs or Pat Kennedy I think alot of people would like to see those fights. and I know for a fact that 2/3 of those blokes would love a crack at de Mori and Col has probably never heard of the bloke and doesn't care but he'll fight him anyway.
sapphire are u in love with col?

[bushboy]

wow thats a random bump homer

[flamengo]

No dog shit on Leons carpet!!!!!!! Not impressed mate!

[Sapphire]

sapphire are u in love with col? The Wilson family have done alot for me. I would do anything to help them out! And know they would do the same for me. I don't see anything wrong with dropping Col's name to try and get him fights.

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ok then heres a couple good ones to start with

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The 'no road work' training schedule is certainly very untraditional.

I remember Ali used to do all his road work in heavy leather work boots and still manage to keep in front of anyone who ran with him (the others instead wearing runners).

Anthony Mundine copied this practice off Ali, amongst others, and as a result one of his hips is apparently absolutely shot - you could argue that rugby probably didn't help the hip either though.

[the beaver]

The 'no road work' training schedule is certainly very untraditional.

I remember Ali used to do all his road work in heavy leather work boots and still manage to keep in front of anyone who ran with him (the others instead wearing runners).

Anthony Mundine copied this practice off Ali, amongst others, and as a result one of his hips is apparently absolutely shot - you could argue that rugby probably didn't help the hip either though.

Mate i'm guessing Rugby league is more likely to be the reason why he's hip is fucked and not the work boots.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Mate i'm guessing Rugby league is more likely to be the reason why he's hip is fucked and not the work boots.

Agreed Beaver. But Mundine himself blames the boots, or that's what he's been telling the press anyway.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Extensive interview with Mark DeMori courtesy of Saddowboxing:

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[LeonMcS]

Tell you what, that youtube video in that interview is pretty good.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Tell you what, that youtube video in that interview is pretty good.

Rumours of your death were obviously exagurated Leon!

...and yeah it is a good vid.

[maco_187]

is that a build or what!! thats definately dedication to diet and training, hopefully we see him in the ring soon against a bigger challenge..

[maco_187]

even so, he wouldnt be the first or the last to be on them, you still have to be dedicated!

[LeonMcS]

Absolute bullshit.

And yeah I'm hanging in there CHB, not here as often as I'd like to be.

[Rise Above]

its called steroids. well know fact here in perth.


Why dont you offer Danny Green another blowjob you suckhole.

[flamengo]

its called steroids. well know fact here in perth.

..........yeah... aint Perth notorious for facts!!! Did Kronky give you this news??

Be a water saver.... dont light a match!!!!!!

[Kegsy]

its called steroids. well know fact here in perth.
Quite an allogation to make...i would hope Mark doesnt use steriods.:think

[FrankinDallas]

Keep your left hand up Mark! We are waiting for your next fight over here....how about getting in the ring with Tye Fields? He is attempting a "come back". It should be an easy fight for you, and you'd certainly get good publicity when you KTFU that lump.

And finally: Keep your left hand up!

[old man]

Mark needs to lose the mirrors and ego.... and show us what he,s got.

[LeonMcS]

On the steroids issue I've already given my opinion as nicely as possible, I'll just add that I'm the proud dad of twin girls and would never put them in an environment that would cause them harm or around people that I don't fully trust.

My girls and I have been visitors to Marks numerous times and hes also been a guest at my place while my kids have been there. I've kicked people out from my place for drinking too much around my kids. If you think I'd let anyone who's been on the juice within coo-ee of my kids your an idiot. Which, in fact, you are.

Pretty easy to make baseless allegations from the anonymity of your keyboard though Shiner. In the real world that would be defamation.

[Phil Austin]

Steroids and ego? I have to be on the same page as Leon here, for a start I have spent some time in Mark's company and he is as far from egotistical as you get, a very down to earth bloke who enjoys a laugh and can take a joke at his expense. Although you have to be very brave (or as stupid as I am) to make that joke! :p
He is a massive dude for sure but am yet to see any of the tell-tale signs of steroid use that comes with it. But it shows one thing - when people start making shit up about you, you know you are doing well...

[Bobby]

Shiner, stop hiding behind an anonymity, are you prepared to repeat that statement about me in public?

[buster007]

i hear some knees trembling. lol.

[ashley]

i hear some knees trembling. lol.

:lol:....Dont worry about it Mark.....just keep up the good work :good

[Bobby]

i do worry about it it is one thing to say im a bum, cant fight , etcd.. that is normal boxing fan stuff, but to make an allegation like shiner did is really low and as leon said in the real world that is called defamation. All I challenge shiner to do is put his name to that statement on this board or in any way he wants.

[ipswich express]

Pretty scandalous allegation to make. I'll say that Shiner never has the guts to put his name on here... defamation of character to say the least. Disgusting and piss weak...

[Dr Gonzo]

shiner you weak cunt

at least have the guts to post your pic so we can make a frog jenkins type thread :yep

[JOSEY WALES]

Sadly shit sticks ,if i were you mate i would demand an on line appology where this allergation was made or i would sue his arse then KHTFO on the court room exit steps , Shit like this can ruin a career in a blink of an eye , International fight promoters from around the world read these boards FFS and the next thing you know the fights dry up for some reason , Good luck in your career young man . Wales

[ashley]

Sadly shit sticks ,if i were you mate i would demand an on line appology where this allergation was made or i would sue his arse then KHTFO on the court room exit steps , Shit like this can ruin a career in a blink of an eye , International fight promoters from around the world read these boards FFS and the next thing you know the fights dry up for some reason , Good luck in your career young man . Wales

This is a joke right?

Public forum....talking shit.....court? :rofl

Josey, I dont know what you do for a crust but it aint legal advice :deal

Mark...you are a top guy :deal......dont worry about what any guy says on any forum.....Just work with your team and better yourself as a fighter and a person...just like you do every day. :thumbsup

[flamengo]

The 'roids statement is ludicrous and unsubstanciated dribble. Great work Shiner..... Shiner?? Where you gone shiner???

Ashley suggesting Mark is a top bloke is contemptuous and incorrect!!

Mark promised numerous dog turds on Leon's carpet... promise being unfulfilled.

Regards, a resigned former fan!!

[ashley]

The 'roids statement is ludicrous and unsubstanciated dribble. Great work Shiner..... Shiner?? Where you gone shiner???

Ashley suggesting Mark is a top bloke is contemptuous and incorrect!!

Mark promised numerous dog turds on Leon's carpet... promise being unfulfilled.

Regards, a resigned former fan!!

Contemptuous....mate use words I can understand.....???

If you mean respect then i have respect for Mark as he has given me time on the forum.....and I aint nobody.

[flamengo]

Contemptuous....mate use words I can understand.....???

If you mean respect then i have respect for Mark as he has given me time on the forum.....and I aint nobody.

Ash.... I was taking the piss.

He promised a few dog turds on Leons carpet, and it fell through. Very dissapointed to say the least.

[ashley]

Ash.... I was taking the piss.

He promised a few dog turds on Leons carpet, and it fell through. Very dissapointed to say the least.

:lol:....m:lol:y bad :patsch

[ashley]

Ash.... I was taking the piss.

He promised a few dog turds on Leons carpet, and it fell through. Very dissapointed to say the least.


Oh and if that gooey stuff between your bricks dry's as fast as your humour then your f%@#&. :lol:

[flamengo]

Oh and if that gooey stuff between your bricks dry's as fast as your humour then your f%@#&. :lol:

.....you're a hard audience. lol

Stop heckling. :D

[ashley]

.....you're a hard audience. lol

Stop heckling. :D

I will get back to you after I go to the fridge...........oh shame your not up here as those cougars I have for you are getting slowly drunk......or maybe its me that's getting drunk :D

[JOSEY WALES]

This is a joke right?

Public forum....talking shit.....court? :rofl

Josey, I dont know what you do for a crust but it aint legal advice :deal

Mark...you are a top guy :deal......dont worry about what any guy says on any forum.....Just work with your team and better yourself as a fighter and a person...just like you do every day. :thumbsup

Ash im a serious as fuck, i don't know what do for a living either but if someone was trying to destroy YOUR livelyhood for whatever reason im sure you would take action ( You are a bloke right ? ) , this Shiner finger whoever he is seems to have an agenda with this kid and the claim that Mark,s progress in the sport is down to him being DIRTY is a fucking disgrace unless he can back up his allergations . We got a saying here mate and thats SHIT STICKS .

[flamengo]

SHIT only sticks when its continually mentioned... just like Khoder. Fuck, I said his name again!!

[ashley]

Ash im a serious as fuck, i don't know what do for a living either but if someone was trying to destroy YOUR livelyhood for whatever reason im sure you would take action ( You are a bloke right ? ) , this Shiner finger whoever he is seems to have an agenda with this kid and the claim that Mark,s progress in the sport is down to him being DIRTY is a fucking disgrace unless he can back up his allergations . We got a saying here mate and thats SHIT STICKS .

Mate...people have said on forums that Joe is top 10 p4p....:patsch....talk about insults :D

Anyway Mark is a top bloke and trains very hard to get what hes got and if some guy wants to say shit about him nobody can stop him.

Get over it.....if you train like a power lifter you get big.....I support Mark...but dont give a shit what anybody says on this forum.

Next think we know Mundine will be 3 time world champ :yep

[buster007]

i agree that most shit should just be ignored but if u are going to start making accusations like that then you have to be accountable.

[teamkronk]

On the steroids issue I've already given my opinion as nicely as possible, I'll just add that I'm the proud dad of twin girls and would never put them in an environment that would cause them harm or around people that I don't fully trust.

My girls and I have been visitors to Marks numerous times and hes also been a guest at my place while my kids have been there. I've kicked people out from my place for drinking too much around my kids. If you think I'd let anyone who's been on the juice within coo-ee of my kids your an idiot. Which, in fact, you are.

Pretty easy to make baseless allegations from the anonymity of your keyboard though Shiner. In the real world that would be defamation.

geez after reading that speal one wonders who's rootn you up the arse in a testosterone fueled session!

PerthKronk you know you want it Leona!

[shanemfr]

Contemptuous....mate use words I can understand.....???

If you mean respect then i have respect for Mark as he has given me time on the forum.....and I aint nobody.
Mark is a champion bloke no ego at all, he emailed me some training routines, and took the time and sent follow up emails asking how i was progressing
I wish him all the best he has got off his bum and headed to the USA to have a go, instead of the majority of the heavy weight scene we have in AUS today that just rematch each other over and over.

[TheDuke]

Ash im a serious as fuck, i don't know what do for a living either but if someone was trying to destroy YOUR livelyhood for whatever reason im sure you would take action ( You are a bloke right ? ) , this Shiner finger whoever he is seems to have an agenda with this kid and the claim that Mark,s progress in the sport is down to him being DIRTY is a fucking disgrace unless he can back up his allergations . We got a saying here mate and thats SHIT STICKS .

I'd tread carefully Josey mate, a lot of stuff you have said to Ashley on this board has jeopardised Ashley's job as Mundine's fluffer.

[sidthehat]

I had some dealings with Mark a few months ago (not that kind!) and found him a top, top guy. Hope he cracks it in the US. Same for Daniel Dawson.

[JOSEY WALES]

I'd tread carefully Josey mate, a lot of stuff you have said to Ashley on this board has jeopardised Ashley's job as Mundine's fluffer.

Nah the only doubt iv ever had about Mundine is his desire to take on the best the bloke is a fantastic Athlete that can never be doubted or denied .

[TheDuke]

Nah the only doubt iv ever had about Mundine is his desire to take on the best the bloke is a fantastic Athlete that can never be doubted or denied .

Josey were you drunk when you typed this?

[kel]

Mark seems to have a lot of support on this forum, with most people saying he is a top bloke. The accusation made against him so far is just that, but in saying that people have a right to voice opinions on this forum however they feel.

BTW Top blokes do illegal things all the time in the world......... just a thought i wld throw out there.

[cookie the carr]

Hey MARK what about coming back to fight MICHEAL KIRBY for O.B.P.F belt MICK'S keen to get your number 20 W.B.C ranking i think it would be a top fight.

[Bobby]

cookie, all fight possibilities get in touch with my manager details on my boxrec page, i see Shiner has either been banned or deleted his account, really really low what he did, I am an extremely hard worker in the gym and to have some idiot come and try and rubbish me is not cool, I have some big fights coming up later in the year so hopefully soon I can announce the details in the meantime I will be trying to keep busy so i dont get rusty. I hope Shiner will still come back here and either A apoligise or B attach his real name to his statement.

[Dr Gonzo]

we should make it a rule, if your going to smack talk someone you have to PM them your mobile number and name and at least have the guts to say it over the phone with evidence

shiner is a fucking skirt, accusing someone of using steroids is like calling someone a liar and a cheat

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

There's a post and a person gone mysteriously missing here!

[ashley]

Good I think we should leave it alone now....lets just talk about Mark and his next fight.

[Darkshark]

cookie, all fight possibilities get in touch with my manager details on my boxrec page, i see Shiner has either been banned or deleted his account, really really low what he did, I am an extremely hard worker in the gym and to have some idiot come and try and rubbish me is not cool, I have some big fights coming up later in the year so hopefully soon I can announce the details in the meantime I will be trying to keep busy so i dont get rusty. I hope Shiner will still come back here and either A apoligise or B attach his real name to his statement.

I agree 100% Mark - anyone who wants to make accusations like that should have to attach their real nema to it.
Having said that, you may want to get used to it, the way you look basically ensures that this wont be the last time you face an allegation or suspicion.
Anyway, keep up the good work, hope to see you down under in the future

[Dr Gonzo]

I agree 100% Mark - anyone who wants to make accusations like that should have to attach their real nema to it.
Having said that, you may want to get used to it, the way you look basically ensures that this wont be the last time you face an allegation or suspicion.
Anyway, keep up the good work, hope to see you down under in the future

its really a sign of the times isnt it, in the early 90's and even earlier a heavyweight with the physique of Mark was considered fairly normal, most world champs at that stage were in this sort of shape (lennox, tyson, holyfield, morrison etc)

now, anyone that isnt a huge fat ass in the HW division is under suspicion of being on steroids... guys like Mark are a dying breed - he should be applauded for coming in to fights in top shape, the majority of the division is big fat fucks.

[buster007]

yes you are correct.

[TheDuke]

its really a sign of the times isnt it, in the early 90's and even earlier a heavyweight with the physique of Mark was considered fairly normal, most world champs at that stage were in this sort of shape (lennox, tyson, holyfield, morrison etc)

now, anyone that isnt a huge fat ass in the HW division is under suspicion of being on steroids... guys like Mark are a dying breed - he should be applauded for coming in to fights in top shape, the majority of the division is big fat fucks.

Well Holyfield and Morrison were definitely on steroids (which has nothing to with issue at hand).

[Bobby]

not sure if you guys aware but their is no drug testing in australian pro boxing i know of, i think it would be great if the anbf could somehow afford to introduce random checks, i usa it depends on the state, i have found some are very relaxed on rules and some are extremely strict.

[Dr Gonzo]

not sure if you guys aware but their is no drug testing in australian pro boxing i know of, i think it would be great if the anbf could somehow afford to introduce random checks, i usa it depends on the state, i have found some are very relaxed on rules and some are extremely strict.

yeah i heard that was the case, i doubt the ANBF could afford wide spread testing at the moment - maybe in the future if aussie boxing becomes bigger :good

do you get tested when you fight in america?

[the beaver]

not sure if you guys aware but their is no drug testing in australian pro boxing i know of, i think it would be great if the anbf could somehow afford to introduce random checks, i usa it depends on the state, i have found some are very relaxed on rules and some are extremely strict.

That's interesting, maybe that's why choc only fights in Australia :lol: :lol:

[Darkshark]

not sure if you guys aware but their is no drug testing in australian pro boxing i know of, i think it would be great if the anbf could somehow afford to introduce random checks, i usa it depends on the state, i have found some are very relaxed on rules and some are extremely strict.

Thats quite interesting really, you'd think that they'd have it fairly tightly regulated (especially in the states) by now. I mean steroids aren't exactly new now are they. Out of interest you haven't been speaking to anyone about the Tua-Cameron undercard have you? I've heard they have Steve Heremaia fighting against "an aussie with a name - not a superstar but a well known name". Just though you might fit the bill.

And Gonzo - yeah it's sad state of affairs alright. Mind you Mark is still on the bulky side when comparing him to other in shape heavyweights from any era IMO

[Guv]

I Think i was your 1st ever spar Broad Beach Good luck in the Future Mate you got what it takes !!! Guv.

[flamengo]

If there was drug testing in this countries boxing regimen, we may be able to find the facts about Khoders Beard... is it grown hydroponically????

[ashley]

If there was drug testing in this countries boxing regimen, we may be able to find the facts about Khoders Beard... is it grown hydroponically????

:lol:

[Kegsy]

not sure if you guys aware but their is no drug testing in australian pro boxing i know of, i think it would be great if the anbf could somehow afford to introduce random checks, i usa it depends on the state, i have found some are very relaxed on rules and some are extremely strict.
I have heard that before from people in regards to USA.

I agree tho Mark random checks would be the best way to go about in australia rather than check every fight.
You would hope with random tests that every fighter has had at least a couple done over a career in australia.
Also random checks would mean the money paid for these checks to be carried out would be far less rather than after every fight.
Tho i would feel any world title fight in australia should have 1 done.:deal

[ipswich express]

Well Holyfield and Morrison were definitely on steroids (which has nothing to with issue at hand).

When did Holyfield test positive, or admit to it? :huh

[LeonMcS]

I've been waiting for you to spot that.

[WhataRock]

When did Holyfield test positive, or admit to it? :huh


When did Flo-Jo? :think


:lol:

[Dr Gonzo]

When did Holyfield test positive, or admit to it? :huh

exactly :good

[TheDuke]

When did Holyfield test positive, or admit to it? :huh

Sorry I got confused, I was thinking of Evan Fields....:oops:

[JOE COOL]

I was just reading Alex Leapai is now rated at 15 in the WBO would be a good chance for Mark to fight Alex !

[JOSEY WALES]

When you fghting next Bobby ?

[Bobby]

just a keep busy fight in perth july 31 while i wait for some things to be finalised re bigger fights overseas, trying to keep busy so i dont get rusty waiting

[ashley]

just a keep busy fight in perth july 31 while i wait for some things to be finalised re bigger fights overseas, trying to keep busy so i dont get rusty waiting

Against????????

[shiner]

keep busy fight, due to the many big fights you've had to keep you not busy?