View Full Version : If David Haye wants to be considered half as good as Lennox Lewis..
Primadonna Kool
11-19-2009, 09:28 PM
All this shit about...him hanging up the gloves at 31..? :lol:
How many times is David Haye gonna fight in a year..?
Face David Tua..!
Prove that Chris A....is not worthy of a World Title fight..!
Knock out these bums like you said..?
Clean out the division, take on all comers.
David Haye has not got the atitude in my opinion, to be as great as Lennox Lewis.
Dan684
11-19-2009, 09:32 PM
To be honest i think David realises that whatever he does, he's never gonna be considered that much of a 'great' at Heavyweight. Its a division which throughout history has been littered with brilliant fighters. Haye simply doesn't have the opposition around to make himself a 'great'.
Beating the likes of Tua, Ruiz, Arreola and the Klits will hardly elevate him into anyones mythical ATG status.
He seems sensible and probably just wants to make a name for himself, become the lineal champ get out and use his status to do other/safer/easier things to add to what he hopes will already be a massive bank balance
kosaros
11-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Prove Arreola is not worthy of a title fight...by fighting him....
JonOli
11-19-2009, 10:29 PM
To be honest i think David realises that whatever he does, he's never gonna be considered that much of a 'great' at Heavyweight.
If he beat both the Klits he would be looked upon very favourably.
ryanm8655
11-19-2009, 10:42 PM
Prove Arreola is not worthy of a title fight...by fighting him....
Haha...quite...the irony...
Ilesey
11-20-2009, 12:37 AM
Face David Tua..!
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:blood
Top Dog
11-20-2009, 07:00 AM
:blood
I'm with you mate, WHY fight Tua, whats he done lately? Is this Tua writing himself?
Ilesey
11-20-2009, 07:04 AM
I'm with you mate, WHY fight Tua, whats he done lately? Is this Tua writing himself?
Exactly. High risk low reward fight for Haye. If he wants to build and cement his legacy he needs to build up and then dethrone a Klitschko to unify.
Top Dog
11-20-2009, 07:07 AM
Exactly. High risk low reward fight for Haye. If he wants to build and cement his legacy he needs to build up and then dethrone a Klitschko to unify.
Totally correct, no win situation against Tua, dangerous puncher but not a big name, aint going to do anything for his legacy in the end, no brainer needs to go Klit hunting, as in the two brother not the ladies hairy bean:D
P4PNo.1
11-20-2009, 07:14 AM
If, and it's a big if, he beats both Klitschkos then he wouldn't need to beat anyone else.
MCMLXXXII
11-20-2009, 07:17 AM
If, and it's a big if, he beats both Klitschkos then he wouldn't need to beat anyone else.
Agreed.
But for me, the hype around Haye at the moment is laughable. He needs to step up to the plate and back up his big mouth with action.
When he takes on and beats the best in the division, I'll climb on the bandwagon.
brown bomber
11-20-2009, 07:19 AM
Just want him to beat the Klit brothers, not bothered about any other fights. The heavyweight division is full of Tocker Pudwills and Said Lawals... Lets UFC the heavyweights up a bit.
TheUzi
11-20-2009, 07:59 AM
There wont be a division for him to 'clean up' because to the Klitschkos credit,they've beaten all challengers and are cleaning it for him.
If his next two fights are Ruiz(which it is) and possibly a Valuev rematch,I would like to see him in a dangerous fight with the likes of Tua(if negotiations are not taking place for either Klit) as Barret/Valuev/Ruiz/Valuev is a disgusting choice of opponents for the apparent saviour of the division.
mrbassie
11-20-2009, 08:26 AM
Agreed.
But for me, the hype around Haye at the moment is laughable.
TBH you're right, if you look at some of the nonsense of the GF at least-although I'm sure half of that is winding up the Kitschko loonies.
I like Haye, I like the way he came up, pretty much the antithesis of the usual crap we see from ******'s fighters. So I tend to route for him but I think, on the other hand, that talk of him beating the Klitschko's is wishful thinking. I give him a chance of catching Wlad and dropping him but there's no way he'd beat Vitali. Actually, I think Wlad would catch Haye first too. I just don't think he has good fundamental boxing skills, he's fast and powerful but chinny, IMO he doesn't have the defensive skills to offset the advantages of such bigger men.
Primadonna Kool
11-20-2009, 08:35 AM
Don't you guys think David Haye has gone abit quiet after his last fight..?
icemax
11-20-2009, 09:08 AM
Agreed.
But for me, the hype around Haye at the moment is laughable. He needs to step up to the plate and back up his big mouth with action.
When he takes on and beats the best in the division, I'll climb on the bandwagon.
Whats with this "step up to the plate" bollocks? After 3 HW contest he is WBA champion of the world, after being king at CW...what more do you want from a man who has had 24 fights?
Whats with this "step up to the plate" bollocks? After 3 HW contest he is WBA champion of the world, after being king at CW...what more do you want from a man who has had 24 fights?
:good I think people forget that he has had only 24 fights.
If, and it is a very big if, he now goes on to beat Ruiz, Valuev (personally hope that rematch doesnt come off), possibly Arreola instead and then both Klits then he could retire a very successful, very rich and very well respected HW champion.
threethirteen
11-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Honestly, look at the state Arreola turned up in against Vitali. Vitali: one of the two best HWs in the division, with a fearsome stoppage %, and Arreola comes in looking like that, with absolutely no gameplan.
What has Arreola done to deserve a title fight? Haye's much more proven in his career overall as a world-class fighter, whose best wins are Valuev and Mormeck. Arreola's best win is Jameel McCline.
TheUzi
11-20-2009, 10:11 AM
Honestly, look at the state Arreola turned up in against Vitali. Vitali: one of the two best HWs in the division, with a fearsome stoppage %, and Arreola comes in looking like that, with absolutely no gameplan.
What has Arreola done to deserve a title fight? Haye's much more proven in his career overall as a world-class fighter, whose best wins are Valuev and Mormeck. Arreola's best win is Jameel McCline.
I agree he hasn't earned his shot at Haye yet,especially coming off a defeat but the shape he comes into for fights has OR SHOULDN'T have any bearing on whether or not he gets a shot. I know im repeating myself but he has far better stamina than Haye.
Also Arreola would beat Valuev IMO,too busy for him.
TheUzi
11-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Its not a body contest or modelling contest...Haye would win that but in a fight,I think it would go the other way!!!!
Jordan
11-20-2009, 10:26 AM
Haye is God.
threethirteen
11-20-2009, 10:34 AM
I agree he hasn't earned his shot at Haye yet,especially coming off a defeat but the shape he comes into for fights has OR SHOULDN'T have any bearing on whether or not he gets a shot. I know im repeating myself but he has far better stamina than Haye.
Also Arreola would beat Valuev IMO,too busy for him.
It's nothing to do with how he looks, though the excess poundage must diminish his movement. My issue is that he was woefully under-prepared to face a guy with decent movement, a hard jab and a bludgeoning right hand.
There was next to no head movement, no lateral movement, no attempt at bobbing and weaving: it was a pitiful display for a supposed championship contender. That's what I mean by looking so bad - he was like a novice.
Unforgiven
11-20-2009, 11:15 AM
:good I think people forget that he has had only 24 fights.
......... in seven years as a professional. :-(
Unforgiven
11-20-2009, 11:16 AM
Haye's got a long way to go before I even consider him as good as Bruno, never mind Lewis.
TheUzi
11-20-2009, 12:14 PM
It's nothing to do with how he looks, though the excess poundage must diminish his movement. My issue is that he was woefully under-prepared to face a guy with decent movement, a hard jab and a bludgeoning right hand.
There was next to no head movement, no lateral movement, no attempt at bobbing and weaving: it was a pitiful display for a supposed championship contender. That's what I mean by looking so bad - he was like a novice.
Good points but I think looking like a novice is more to do with Vitali's abilities than Arreola's lack of.
Hopefully David does not suffer the same and look so bad when he steps up to fight the Brothers.
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