From the point of view of the victim's durability, what are the most impressive ko's?

[McGrain]

The most impressive Ko's in history based purely upon the durability of the opponent, what are they? So for example, Robinson's TKO of LaMotta is frightening and brilliant, what KO's compare?

[Flea Man]

To a lesser extent to the above example, Mosley Vs Margarito

[Mr Butt]

pryor beating arguello in the first fight

[turpinr]

valdez ko over bennie brisoe.

[Manassa]

I suppose really, you can't beat Robinson-Fullmer.

That's a former welterweight champion, past his best, using a single punch to destroy the durable Fullmer, whose chin you'd have to rate an 8/10.

[McGrain]

You would rate that above the LaMotta KO based upon the one-punch nature of the stoppage Manassa? LaMotta was a meaty middleweight after all...

[enquirer]

Hearns duran. Who ever even came close to doing that to roberto?

[turpinr]

You would rate that above the LaMotta KO based upon the one-punch nature of the stoppage Manassa? LaMotta was a meaty middleweight after all...robinson didn't ko lamotta though or even come near.
fullmer on the other hand ,who believed he was out of the same mould as jake..........................was

[McGrain]

robinson didn't ko lamotta though or even come near.

:blood

[mightyd40]

so the st valentines day massacre was my imagination making robinson look all the more awesome then?

[Stevie G]

Hearns duran. Who ever even came close to doing that to roberto?
You beat me to that one :good

[teeto]

Morales was at the end of the road but Pac's first stoppage over him must rate. Ali-Bonavena?

[TheGreatA]

Fullmer could be knocked down but he had almost a granite-like chin. It would be difficult to envision him being knocked out by one punch, had we not seen it happen.

LaMotta was brutalized in the last couple of rounds when he had ran out of gas but I was more impressed with LaMotta's chin than Robinson's punch there.

For me it's the Fullmer KO out of these two.

Hearns-Duran is impressive. Sure Duran was getting up there in age and weight but the man always had a dependable chin. Against Jorge Castro at 47 years of age, Duran took Castro's best punches flush on the chin and never went down. Hearns had Duran out on his feet after one round.

[Manassa]

You would rate that above the LaMotta KO based upon the one-punch nature of the stoppage Manassa? LaMotta was a meaty middleweight after all...

Yeah. LaMotta, though a bit sturdier than Fullmer, was reeling, slashed and stunned. But Fullmer didn't know what was going on. He tried to get up but couldn't. In the dressing room, he didn't even know he'd been knocked out. One shot. It's the greatest knockout of all time, surely.

[TheGreatA]

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[Unforgiven]

Ali-Foreman

[McGrain]

Yeah. LaMotta, though a bit sturdier than Fullmer, was reeling, slashed and stunned. But Fullmer didn't know what was going on. He tried to get up but couldn't. In the dressing room, he didn't even know he'd been knocked out. One shot. It's the greatest knockout of all time, surely.


Certianly not one I tire of seeing.

[turpinr]

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:goodwell done.never seen this before.only read about it.
birmingham's finest outlasting the durable dane:bbb
i hadn't realised the crowd was so huge either.

[Flea Man]

Louis over Baer

[Addie]

Foster vs Tiger
Nunn vs Kalambay
Hopkins vs Johnson

[turpinr]

griffith-carter

[Stevie G]

Ali-Foreman
Definitely agree with this one. Nobody's kayoed Foreman since then. Even when he got old,and was being hit time and time again.

[Sweet Pea]

You would rate that above the LaMotta KO based upon the one-punch nature of the stoppage Manassa? LaMotta was a meaty middleweight after all...Definitely. The ref stepped in in the LaMotta fight, he was never put down or unconscious. He flattened the very durable Fullmer (who'd only ever even been put down once prior against the monster left hook of Eduardo Lausse) with one punch. Definitely the best example I can think of for this thread.

[Sweet Pea]

Hopkins vs Johnson:huh

[Addie]

:huh

Nobody else has come close to stopping the same man, who is not an elusive target to put it mildly.

[TheGreatA]

Nobody else has come close to stopping the same man, who is not an elusive target to put it mildly.

I think Glen would have gone the distance had he been allowed to. It was just too one-sided but Johnson wasn't truly hurt in the fight.

[lefthook31]

Many Holyfield fights. He was just so good at breaking guys down.

[Sweet Pea]

I think Glen would have gone the distance had he been allowed to. It was just too one-sided but Johnson wasn't truly hurt in the fight.Not to mention he was one of Hopkins's weakest defenses at the time. He wasn't nearly the fighter he'd become after gaining the experience against world level competition.

[Unforgiven]

Tyson against Pinklon Thomas impresses me.
The fact that Tyson actually got him down.

[Addie]

I think Glen would have gone the distance had he been allowed to. It was just too one-sided but Johnson wasn't truly hurt in the fight.

Point taken. :good

Swap it for Jackson vs Norris. :lol:

Would we credit Morales for stopping Zaragoza, or was he just too old at that point?

[lefthook31]

Hopkins Trinidad
Holy Tyson
Corrales Castillo
Mayweather Corrales
Tyson Ribalta
Toney Williams
Manfredy Gatti
Paul Vaden Vincent Pettway
Chavez Taylor 1 :)

[TheGreatA]

Not to mention he was one of Hopkins's weakest defenses at the time. He wasn't nearly the fighter he'd become after gaining the experience against world level competition.

I wouldn't say it was one of his weakest defenses, not that it wasn't weak, but because Hopkins had fought the likes of Steve Frank and Bo James...

Glen Johnson had built up an undefeated record but he had truly fought nobody at that point.

[Unforgiven]

Tyson Ribalta

You think Ribalta was especially durable ?

[lefthook31]

Anyone see the second Robert Allen fight with Hopkins? That was a pretty good beat down and Hopkins finally stopped a guy who was very competitive in the first fight. Hopkins was such a different fighter back in those days.

[lefthook31]

You think Ribalta was especially durable ?
Hell yeah!!! Watch the fight. Ribalta was an animal in that fight. He took a massive beating. One of Tyson's best performances in my opinion. Watch it, you'll see for yourself.

[The Kurgan]

Joe Hipp's KO of Ribalta was more impressive.

[mr. magoo]

I think Joe Louis destroyed a lot of opponents who were generally thought of as being fairly durable.. His early round destruction of Max Baer is probably one of the better examples that I can think of.

[lefthook31]

Joe Hipp's KO of Ribalta was more impressive.
Well that was a little later on like 9 years later, and it Ribalta didnt show the type of staying power he did in the Tyson fight. Ribalta was stopped before, but he stood in and fought Tyson for 10 rounds. Anyone who thinks Tyson didnt have a fighting heart should watch that fight. It was an impressive beat down that ended in the 10th.

[TheGreatA]

Joe Hipp's KO of Ribalta was more impressive.

Or this:

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[ChrisPontius]

Not the best, but worth a mention is Tua vs Ruiz. Ruiz proved to have a pretty good jaw in never being seriously hurt during more than ten years of fighting top level opponents, yet Tua had him ready to go to the morgue in a mere 17 seconds!

[itrymariti]

Robinson/Graziano deserves a mention.

[lefthook89]

Tyson against Pinklon Thomas impresses me.
The fact that Tyson actually got him down.

damn, i was hoping i would be the first to say this one lol. also tysons brutal KO on larry holmes. tyson is the only one to ever knockout larry holmes. also ali's tko of foreman and hearns KO of duran.

[Flea Man]

Tyson-Holmes is another good one. Regardless of Larry being a bit past prime, he was never stopped afterwards or before, and was decked by Shavers (massive punch as we all know) and managed to continue. Tyson had him OUT

[Popkins]

Tyson-Holmes is another good one. Regardless of Larry being a bit past prime, he was never stopped afterwards or before, and was decked by Shavers (massive punch as we all know) and managed to continue. Tyson had him OUT

I just tried to send you a privatemail, but it failed coz you have too many messages. Clean out yer inbox! :good

[The Kurgan]

Or this:

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Very impressive. Probably the most impressive performance against Ribalta out there, although I haven't seen Ruddock-Ribalta.

[The Kurgan]

Well that was a little later on like 9 years later, and it Ribalta didnt show the type of staying power he did in the Tyson fight. Ribalta was stopped before, but he stood in and fought Tyson for 10 rounds. Anyone who thinks Tyson didnt have a fighting heart should watch that fight. It was an impressive beat down that ended in the 10th.

He has fighting heart because of a beat down?

[red cobra]

Joe Louis-Paolino Uzcudun

[Popkins]

Foster-Tiger is probably the best example of this I can think of, but Addie has already mentioned it.

How about Benvenuti's stunning single-shot KO of the great Luis Manuel Rodriguez?

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[Jaws]

Hell yeah!!! Watch the fight. Ribalta was an animal in that fight. He took a massive beating. One of Tyson's best performances in my opinion. Watch it, you'll see for yourself.

I agree! Very underrated fight. It's one of my favorite Tyson fights, because both fighters are in top form. Ribalta must have been on PCP that night--the shots he gets up from are incredible! People forget that Ribalta came very close to beating Bonecrusher Smith...some say he won.

Anyway, Tyson was the first man to KO Holmes, Thomas, and Tubbs---all men known for great chins.

Hearns-Duran would obviously be a top choice in this thread.

[lefthook31]

He has fighting heart because of a beat down?
Actually he fought quite competitively. Take a look, its on youtube.

[PetethePrince]

I suppose really, you can't beat Robinson-Fullmer.

That's a former welterweight champion, past his best, using a single punch to destroy the durable Fullmer, whose chin you'd have to rate an 8/10.

:good

[PetethePrince]

Maybe Tyson - Douglas should be mentioned?

[Dempsey1238]

Maybe Tyson - Douglas should be mentioned?


Not sure on that, Out of all of Tyson's loses, he never lost a fight on points.

Outside of Holyfiled II, (The bite) He was TKO or knockout evey time.

[janitor]

Ingemar Johansen's knockout of Eddie Machen deserves a mention.

[Dempsey1238]

Ingemar Johansen's knockout of Eddie Machen deserves a mention.


One would think Machen had a glass jaw or something watching this one.

[Bokaj]

Many good mentions, but Robinson-Fulmer is still a clear nr. 1 for me. Stunning.

[JohnThomas1]

Point taken. :good

Swap it for Jackson vs Norris. :lol:


Norris had a glass jaw! :lol:

Glance the topic again, we're looking for ko's over extremely durable opposition.

[Unforgiven]

Ali-Bonavena is quite impressive. Others knocked Bonavena down, but Ali was the only one who had him in that condition and stopped him.

[Bokaj]

Ali-Bonavena is quite impressive. Others knocked Bonavena down, but Ali was the only one who had him in that condition and stopped him.

Ok, so what you say? Bonavena + Foreman vs. LaMotta + Fulmer?

[Unforgiven]

Ok, so what you say? Bonavena + Foreman vs. LaMotta + Fulmer?

About equal.
Though the Fullmer finish is the best of the four.

[Tin_Ribs]

The good ones have been mentioned, but how's about Tony Janiro stopping Beau Jack? I think he was nearly half a stone heavier which might detract from it slightly, but Janiro wasn't a massive hitter whilst Jack had never been stopped up to that point.

[Bokaj]

Though the Fullmer finish is the best of the four.

No doubt.

[mcvey]

The most impressive Ko's in history based purely upon the durability of the opponent, what are they? So for example, Robinson's TKO of LaMotta is frightening and brilliant, what KO's compare?

Shepard koing Maxim.
Tyson koing Berbick

[The Kurgan]

Actually he fought quite competitively. Take a look, its on youtube.

So do you think it was a competitive struggle or an impressive beat-down?

[The Kurgan]

Tyson koing Berbick

Definitely. It was the unstoppable force vs. the (nearly) immovable object and the force came out on top. Berbick was outrageously durable and Tyson seemed to catch him by short-circuiting Berbick's control of his legs. Berbick was cogniscent enough to try to get up, but just couldn't move his legs properly.

One of the best knockouts of all time, if you ask me.

[The Morlocks]

The most impressive Ko's in history based purely upon the durability of the opponent, what are they? So for example, Robinson's TKO of LaMotta is frightening and brilliant, what KO's compare?
It's not a ko, but Holmes vs Cobb. I was feeling the punches thru th t. v. by the time the final bell rang. That's what made him into the badass from "Raising Arizona" ha. ha.:good

[Russell]

Definitely. It was the unstoppable force vs. the (nearly) immovable object and the force came out on top. Berbick was outrageously durable and Tyson seemed to catch him by short-circuiting Berbick's control of his legs. Berbick was cogniscent enough to try to get up, but just couldn't move his legs properly.

One of the best knockouts of all time, if you ask me.

Didn't Snipes drop Berbick multiple times with his vaunted right hand?

Dropped Holmes like a sack of shit too, so...

[lefthook31]

So do you think it was a competitive struggle or an impressive beat-down?
What point are you trying to make? Ribalta was 6'6". He tried to fight Tyson and hung in there quite competitively. He took just about everything that Tyson dished out. It was Tyson impressively chopping down a tree really, breaking a mans will who was there to figh to the finish. Maybe the ref could have let it go, but Ribalta most likely would have been hurt badly in that final round. So to answer your question, it was a bit of both.

[TheGreatA]

The good ones have been mentioned, but how's about Tony Janiro stopping Beau Jack? I think he was nearly half a stone heavier which might detract from it slightly, but Janiro wasn't a massive hitter whilst Jack had never been stopped up to that point.

I believe Beau Jack was injured though. Much like what happened to Janiro himself against Kid Gavilan.

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[JohnThomas1]

Didn't Snipes drop Berbick multiple times with his vaunted right hand?

Dropped Holmes like a sack of shit too, so...

Watched this a year back. Remember Snipes dropping him once and he noticably staggered him a few times.

[scartissue]

Hearns-Cuevas
Rosario-Bramble
Rosario-Viruet
McCallum-Curry
Nelson-Fenech II
O'Grady-Ganigan

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[JohnThomas1]

Hearns-Cuevas
Rosario-Bramble
Rosario-Viruet
McCallum-Curry
Nelson-Fenech II
O'Grady-Ganigan

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Great list with the only one that doesn't quuuuite fit being Curry imo.

[McGrain]

I believe Beau Jack was injured though. Much like what happened to Janiro himself against Kid Gavilan.

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Great pic. Thousand words etc.

[Unforgiven]

Pinklon Thomas was more durable than Trevor Berbick, so I rate that as Tyson's best stoppage over durable opponent. Thomas was virtually impossible to knock down.

[The Kurgan]

What point are you trying to make? Ribalta was 6'6". He tried to fight Tyson and hung in there quite competitively. He took just about everything that Tyson dished out. It was Tyson impressively chopping down a tree really, breaking a mans will who was there to figh to the finish. Maybe the ref could have let it go, but Ribalta most likely would have been hurt badly in that final round. So to answer your question, it was a bit of both.

Anyone who thinks Tyson didnt have a fighting heart should watch that fight.

In what way did that fight prove Tyson's fighting heart?

[The Kurgan]

Didn't Snipes drop Berbick multiple times with his vaunted right hand?

Dropped Holmes like a sack of shit too, so...

Possibly. Snipes had a huge amount of power, although he didn't fight in a way that made the most of it.

[scartissue]

Great list with the only one that doesn't quuuuite fit being Curry imo.

John, don't forget, that was a one-punch knockout of a guy that had never been down (I lied, I think Hwang had him down), who was also winning the fight and was really never worth a damn after that fight. Maybe not as glaring an example as the others but I thought it needed to be included, although we probably never think of Curry in turns of LaMottish ruggedness.

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[lefthook31]

In what way did that fight prove Tyson's fighting heart?
Was that Tyson just beating on a guy or was Ribalta fighting back competitively as compared to most of Tysons fights?

[JohnThomas1]

John, don't forget, that was a one-punch knockout of a guy that had never been down (I lied, I think Hwang had him down), who was also winning the fight and was really never worth a damn after that fight. Maybe not as glaring an example as the others but I thought it needed to be included, although we probably never think of Curry in turns of LaMottish ruggedness.

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I see your point, but Curry had been pretty recently beaten down badly and was moving up a sizable level in class. Hwang dropped him and he had been a bit buzzed here and there. There were question marks about his chin very early on.

I guess he wasn't the type to be sparked by a single left hook tho, certainly notable.

[AlFrancis]

I believe Beau Jack was injured though. Much like what happened to Janiro himself against Kid Gavilan.

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Good looking lad isn't he?

[GPater11093]

Olivares vs Rudkin

pretty good KO there as Rudkin was a gritty wee fighter

[Minotauro]

As mentioned I feel Fullmer being stopped with one punch by Ray Robinson is the most impressive. And although fighting above his best weight Foster knocking out Dick Tiger in the manner he did was hugely impressive. Also to a slightly lesser extent Benn vs Barkley every punch Nigel throw hurt Iran bad and Barkely had a quality chin. Awesome display of power by Benn.

[anarci]

Hearns-Cuevas
Rosario-Bramble
Rosario-Viruet
McCallum-Curry
Nelson-Fenech II
O'Grady-Ganigan

Scartissue O'grady and Curry werent Durable O"grady was already Ktfod by Lopez And stopped by Watt. Curry was stopped by Honeyghan.

[anarci]

First one that came to mind was Hearns and Duran but then all these came up off the top of my head or some of these just agreeing with the other posts.

Hearns vs Duran
Robinson vs Fullmer
Roldan vs Fletcher
Sanchez vs Nelson
Jones vs T tate
Jones vs Hill
Toney vs Williams
Mosley vs Margarito
Ruddock vs Bonecrusher
Holyfield vs Qawi II
Chavez vs Haugen
Rosario vs Bramble
Rosario vs Viruet
Tyson vs Berbick
Corrales vs Castillo I
Marquez vs Casamayor

[KOTF]

Bonecrusher vs. Terrible Tim II was pretty damn surprising to end in the first round like that

[anarci]

:yep Yey agreed I was surprised when that happened

[anarci]

Carbajal vs Arce dramatic come from behind ko for the aging Carbajal.
Arce vs Cob Castro Castro took all the best bombs from the best little guys througout his career but was kod by Arce.

[Thread Stealer]

The first fight to come to mind was Nunn-Kalambay.

Although technically a DQ, Jones-Barrera 1 is another one I think that deserves a mention. Barrera got a long count and was done.

[scartissue]

O'grady and Curry werent Durable O"grady was already Ktfod by Lopez And stopped by Watt. Curry was stopped by Honeyghan.

The not yet 17 year old O'Grady was retired in his corner against Lopez without having been down and the stoppage to Watt was on a butt-induced vertical gash on his forehead. Again, without having been down. Curry had swapped leather with big bangers Starling, McCrory, Jones, LaRocca and nobody put a dent in him. He retired on his stool against Honeyghan, drained at the weight, without having been down. Both O'Grady and Curry were very durable.

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[AlFrancis]

Ganigan - O'Grady

[Flea Man]

O'grady and Curry werent Durable O"grady was already Ktfod by Lopez And stopped by Watt. Curry was stopped by Honeyghan.

Stop reading boxrec

[anarci]

The not yet 17 year old O'Grady was retired in his corner against Lopez without having been down and the stoppage to Watt was on a butt-induced vertical gash on his forehead. Again, without having been down. Curry had swapped leather with big bangers Starling, McCrory, Jones, LaRocca and nobody put a dent in him. He retired on his stool against Honeyghan, drained at the weight, without having been down. Both O'Grady and Curry were very durable.

Scartissue :nono Curry was slick in his prime he never traded bombs with those guys. Only Starling ever landed on him of the 4 you mentioned,and he was an average puncher. He blew Mccory and Jones out. He spanked Larocca too. Ive been a fan a long time and neither of those guys were that durable like the other fighters who have been mentioned on this thread.

[johnmaff36]

All the best ones are pretty muched covered here so im gonna throw one in that may be of interest to some. Wayne mcCullagh beating Arturo Gatti in 1 round. OK, it was in the amateurs but a surprising one nevertheless giving McCullaghs punch power and Gatti being Gatti

[anarci]

Stop reading boxrec :nono Na i dont have to do that.. Check this out Fleaman ive been a hardcore boxing Fan for over 30 years . I have watched almost every Champion since then fight when they were fighting. Not on you tube so i dont have to do research on the ones from the last 30 years. Only the ones before that time and I did that before the internet even existed. I have also seen literally thousands of Journeyman,Clubfighter and alot of nobodies in that time period. I dont need to refer to Boxing Records on information that I already know ayyyyyyyright!:bart Only when i forget shit which isnt to often.

[The Kurgan]

Was that Tyson just beating on a guy or was Ribalta fighting back competitively as compared to most of Tysons fights?

Having an opponent who fights back competitively is proof of fighting heart?

[lefthook31]

Having an opponent who fights back competitively is proof of fighting heart?
In the context of this fight, (getting off the canvas three times), I would think so.

[lefthook31]

All the best ones are pretty muched covered here so im gonna throw one in that may be of interest to some. Wayne mcCullagh beating Arturo Gatti in 1 round. OK, it was in the amateurs but a surprising one nevertheless giving McCullaghs punch power and Gatti being Gatti
Yeah or David Tua getting KO'd in the amatuers by the Cuban?

[Duodenum]

Robinson was always very candid about counting on the expectation that LaMotta would be weight drained for the Valentine's Day Massacre. He stopped Jake with attrition. Fullmer was a different story.

In the earliest telecasts of Robby's middleweight fights, commentators expressly state that he's not a one punch knockout artist at 160. Then, he suddenly puts down an attacking Graziano for the count with a single right hand, and Fullmer with a single hook, both times in a situation where his opponent has all the momentum. Robinson-Fullmer II is the only reason we don't compare Gene's chin with Jake's.

Benvenuti-Rodriguez and Hearns-Duran are obvious choices, but again, Nino did it with a single punch in a situation he was on the brink of losing.

What RJJ did to Hill was stunning, although Virgil did somehow manage to beat the count. (It should properly be recorded as a Referee Stops Contest, or TKO, but boxWRECK still has it listed as a KO. Of course, that's :pissboxWRECK.)

[KOTF]

Joey Maxim-Curtis Sheppard

Maxim has only been stopped one time, and this was the guy that did the trick. Not only that, Sheppard scored the KO (not a TKO) in the first round.

[anarci]

Robinson was always very candid about counting on the expectation that LaMotta would be weight drained for the Valentine's Day Massacre. He stopped Jake with attrition. Fullmer was a different story.

In the earliest telecasts of Robby's middleweight fights, commentators expressly state that he's not a one punch knockout artist at 160. Then, he suddenly puts down an attacking Graziano for the count with a single right hand, and Fullmer with a single hook, both times in a situation where his opponent has all the momentum. Robinson-Fullmer II is the only reason we don't compare Gene's chin with Jake's.

Benvenuti-Rodriguez and Hearns-Duran are obvious choices, but again, Nino did it with a single punch in a situation he was on the brink of losing.

What RJJ did to Hill was stunning, although Virgil did somehow manage to beat the count. (It should properly be recorded as a Referee Stops Contest, or TKO, but boxWRECK still has it listed as a KO. Of course, that's :pissboxWRECK.) Yey but Hill was hurt badly and his ribs were broken,there is no way he would have been able to continue.

[Azzer]

I Dont Think This Has Been Said Yet

FOREMAN VS FRAZIER I

And To Think...Frazier Was The Favourite Going Into This Fight