Best Featherweights of all-time:

[Holmes' Jab]

My list:

Willie Pep
Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez
Sandy Sadler
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eusabio Pedroza
Naseem Hamed
Eric Morales
Barry McGuigan
Abe Attell
Kid Chocolate
Wilfredo Gomez
Manny Pacquiao


Thoughts?

[dmt]

Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Salvador Sanchez
Sandy Saddler
Jim Driscoll
Terry McGovern
Kid Chocolate
Eusebio Peradoza
Abe Attel
Morales/Barrera

[Holmes' Jab]

Henry Armstrong
Terry McGovern

Glaring omitions from my list. :shock: These guys would defo be up there amongst the toppermost. :good

[Bo Bo Olson]

Saddler
Pep one of the loses to Saddler he was ahead but hurt his arm bad...
Kilbane before Atteil in that he beat him for the title.....both held the title for some 12 years a piece, but more of Attels were questionable.

now that would be a good fight both at prime.

Armstrong

I tend to go with one and only Champions of the world...in ratings... any four belt man is that today. But splinter Champs no matter who, like Druan for example is just a splinter champ, in spite of being thought the best of his weight...IMO of course.

[TBooze]

Top 10 feathers

The Featherweights are an incredibly talented group of fighters; my all-time list goes:

10: Salvador Sanchez
9: Joey Archibald
8: Azumah Nelson
7: Johnny Kilbane
6: George Dixon
5: Henry Armstrong
4; Eusebio Pedroza
3: Abe Attell
2: Willie Pep
1: Sandy Saddler

Honorary mentions: Young Griffo, Terry McGovern, Jim Driscoll, Bat Battalino, Hogan 'Kid' Bassey, Davey Moore, Sugar Ramos, Vicente Saldivar, Eder Jofre, Antonio Esparragoza, Naseem Hamed, Marco Antonio Barrera and Manny Pacquiao

Mentions: Ben Jordan, Young Corbett II, Johnny Dundee, Kid Kaplan, Tony Canzoneri, Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Howard Winstone, Alexis Arguello, Danny Lopez, Juan LaPorte, Jeff Fenech, Marcos Villasana, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Eloy Rojas, Manuel Medina, Wilfred Vazquez, Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez.

[Drew101]

Current List:

1. Willie Pep
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sandly Saddler
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Kid Chocolate
6. Eusebio Pedroza
7. George Dixon
8. Freddie Miller
9. Alexis Arguello
10. Jim Driscoll

[mcvey]

Top 10 feathers

The Featherweights are an incredibly talented group of fighters; my all-time list goes:

10: Salvador Sanchez
9: Joey Archibald
8: Azumah Nelson
7: Johnny Kilbane
6: George Dixon
5: Henry Armstrong
4; Eusebio Pedroza
3: Abe Attell
2: Willie Pep
1: Sandy Saddler

Honorary mentions: Young Griffo, Terry McGovern, Jim Driscoll, Bat Battalino, Hogan 'Kid' Bassey, Davey Moore, Sugar Ramos, Vicente Saldivar, Eder Jofre, Antonio Esparragoza, Naseem Hamed, Marco Antonio Barrera and Manny Pacquiao

Mentions: Ben Jordan, Young Corbett II, Johnny Dundee, Kid Kaplan, Tony Canzoneri, Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Howard Winstone, Alexis Arguello, Danny Lopez, Juan LaPorte, Jeff Fenech, Marcos Villasana, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Eloy Rojas, Manuel Medina, Wilfred Vazquez, Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez.
Cant see Joey Archibald ,apart from a couple of wins over Mike Belloise he lost to every top man he met.

[brooklyn1550]

Pep
Saddler
Attell
Sanchez
Driscoll
Armstrong
Chocolate
Pedroza
Arguello
Dundee
McGovern
Kilbane
Dixon
Barrera
Morales
Saldivar

No particular order to this, although my top 4 includes Pep, Saddler, Attell, and Sanchez

[Robbi]

My list:

Willie Pep
Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez
Sandy Sadler
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eusabio Pedroza
Naseem Hamed
Eric Morales
Barry McGuigan
Abe Attell
Kid Chocolate
Wilfredo Gomez
Manny Pacquiao


Thoughts?

Not sure McGuigan deserves a mention. He beat a past his prime, Pedroza, and lost to the unknown Steve Cruz. He only defended his title a couple of times in between.

[brownpimp88]

I would put vicente saldivar in my top 10 and I believe Pedroza should be top 5 based on longevity aka larry holmes.

[Asterion]

My list:

Willie Pep
Azumah Nelson
Salvador Sanchez
Sandy Sadler
Marco Antonio Barrera
Eusabio Pedroza
Naseem Hamed
Eric Morales
Barry McGuigan
Abe Attell
Kid Chocolate
Wilfredo Gomez
Manny Pacquiao


Thoughts?


:-(

[dmille]

George Dixon
Abe Attell
Johnny Kilbane
Johnny Dundee
Battling Battalino
Freddie Miller
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Vicente Saldivar
Salvador Sanchez

Honorable mention:
Baby Arizmendi
Marco Antonio Barrera
Benny Bass
Kid Chocolate
Jim Driscoll
Jeff Fenech
Wilfredo Gomez
Young Griffo
Azumah Nelson
Eusebio Pedroza

Note:
I rate McGovern, Jeffra and Jofre at 118
I rate Canzi, Armstrong and Arguello at 135

[Vockerman]

My list changes every few weeks - this is how I have them this month

1 Willie Pep
2 Sandy Saddler
3 Kid Chocolate
4 Abe Attell
5 Johnny Kilbane
6 Louis (Kid) Kaplan
7 Terry McGovern
8 Freddie Miller
9 Benny Bass
10 Salvador Sanchez

If I'm missing your favorite guy I might rate him in a different division and I don't know where to put current fighters - they aren't done yet so I leave em' in the oven :happy

[TIGEREDGE]

sanchez has got to be top 5 in my opinion. but it has been a talent packed division

[TBooze]

sanchez has got to be top 5 in my opinion. but it has been a talent packed division

Sanchez was sadly not round long enough to justify a top 5 placing IMO.

A significant proportion of the rating of Sanchez is done on what could of been and that can lead to a slap in the face to all the superb fighters who actually delivered thoughout a long career.

[Mantequilla]

I think Most rate Sanchez on what he actually accomplished.

[LeonMcS]

Young Griffo would have beat them all and still made it to the pub before closing time.

[brownpimp88]

Salvador sanchez beat lopez, gomez and nelson(although he was somewhat green), IMO that compares to the top opponents that pep and saddler fought. I dont think willie pep should be considered the general consensus #1 featherweight of all times, there are so many fighters from different eras that would give him a rough fight and also have similar resumes.

[TBooze]

I think Most rate Sanchez on what he actually accomplished.

If that were the case, he may just sneak a top ten place, if you were being kind.

[Sonny Carson]

Yeah and Pedroza never beat anybody who was great like Sanchez did. Olivares was past his prime when fought him.

[mcvey]

Yeah and Pedroza never beat anybody who was great like Sanchez did. Olivares was past his prime when fought him.
Sanchez was champ for 2 years ,he beatLopez x2 Laporte,Gomez and Nelson .Pedrozawas champ for 13 years and fought all over ,he beatLastra,Solis,Herrera,Lockridgex2,Olivares,Lujan ,and Kobayashi,his record stacks up pretty well I think.

[TBooze]

Yeah and Pedroza never beat anybody who was great like Sanchez did. Olivares was past his prime when fought him.

Pedroza was World Class for seven years; Sanchez for just two. Salvador was phenomenon, but also a phenomenon that grew because of an early death.

[Sonny Carson]

Sanchez was champ for 2 years ,he beatLopez x2 Laporte,Gomez and Nelson .Pedrozawas champ for 13 years and fought all over ,he beatLastra,Solis,Herrera,Lockridgex2,Olivares,Lujan ,and Kobayashi,his record stacks up pretty well I think.
None of those fighter's except for Olivares are any where near an All Time Great. Pedroza was a very good fighter but he was dirty and he may have lost to Juan Laporte.

[TBooze]

None of those fighter's except for Olivares are any where near an All Time Great. Pedroza was a very good fighter but he was dirty and he may have lost to Juan Laporte.

It is not a negative to be dirty if you can get away with it, and Pedroza was brilliant at that.

Pedroza unlike Sanchez had a full career thus he was going to have some poor performances in there. But so did Sanchez, he almost blew the Pat Cowdell fight and was slaughtered by the press (until the accident) for the poor performance and struggle with the novice Nelson.

[Sonny Carson]

It is not a negative to be dirty if you can get away with it, and Pedroza was brilliant at that.

Pedroza unlike Sanchez had a full career thus he was going to have some poor performances in there. But so did Sanchez, he almost blew the Pat Cowdell fight and was slaughtered by the press (until the accident) for the poor performance and struggle with the novice Nelson.

Well the press got it wrong and if Pedroza was the champ for so long why didn't he fight Gomez or especially Lopez. You wanna know why cause they were big bombers and he had been KO'ed three times. And like I said LaPorte might have beaten Pedroza so enough with the Cowdell shit atleast there's no controversey about that fight. Nelson was an ATG, Laporte just a good fighter, you have no arguement. Sanchez knew when to turn it on, he was special, Pedroza was not. I really don't see how you can defend Pedroza's resume and blast Sanchez, it makes no sense. He never beat anybody that great, get over it.

[sweet_scientist]

Nelson and Gomez are definitely two better wins than anything on Pedroza's resume. Then when you consider that Pedroza arguably lost to Lockridge twice, Laporte and Bernard Taylor, it's simply not up to the standard which Sanchez set. There's no controversial victory on Sanchez's ledger. Does anyone really argue that Cowdell or Ford beat him? Close but clear decisions in both cases imo.

As for struggling with a green Nelson, I'd take that Nelson to better Pedroza for a good 10 of the 15 rounds the bout would go IF Pedroza's chin didn't cave in beforehand.

[mcvey]

Well the press got it wrong and if Pedroza was the champ for so long why didn't he fight Gomez or especially Lopez. You wanna know why cause they were big bombers and he had been KO'ed three times. And like I said LaPorte might have beaten Pedroza so enough with the Cowdell shit atleast there's no controversey about that fight. Nelson was an ATG, Laporte just a good fighter, you have no arguement. Sanchez knew when to turn it on, he was special, Pedroza was not. I really don't see how you can defend Pedroza's resume and blast Sanchez, it makes no sense. He never beat anybody that great, get over it.
Nelson was an atg but not the 14fight version that Sanchez fought ,and Gomez was coming up in weight ,some are successful at the extra poundage ,some are not Zarate a great bantam proved this when Gomez blew him Sanchez was a great fighter but to say he would have easily beat Pedroza is silly ,you say why didnt Pedroza fight Sanchez/ Well why didnt Sanchez fight Pedroza? Pedroza at least took his title on the road,and to put his abilities down because he was a dirty fighter is also nonsensical,so was Greb ,Zivic,Armstrong,Saddler,are they no good?Pedroza hit Laporte low several times,Foreman hit Roman while he was down Marciano clubbed Cockell whilst he was on the floor ,hit him low and butted him.this is a fight not a knitting contest a guy stamped on my foot once and broke two of my toes ,then he hit me low ,it aint womens hour in there!