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Addie
11-21-2009, 01:51 AM
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Flea Man
11-21-2009, 02:04 AM
I actually think it's his best performance.
The way Duran takes away Palomino's strengths (even in close) his left hook to the body (by turning him constantly) as well as out-punching (flooring) and dominating (I scored it wide) is just fantastic.
I really like his patient dissection of Guts Ishimatsu as well.
WhataRock
11-21-2009, 02:26 AM
Just about...probably my most watched fight. Entertaining as all hell and inside a nice neat 10 round distance, so I can watch over breakfast or after I get home from work later.
Id say almost no one beats Roberto from the second DeJesus fight aswell...Thats one of my fav Duran performances.
Flea Man
11-21-2009, 02:57 AM
Just about...probably my most watched fight. Entertaining as all hell and inside a nice neat 10 round distance, so I can watch over breakfast or after I get home from work later.
Id say almost no one beats Roberto from the second DeJesus fight aswell...Thats one of my fav Duran performances.
Yep, he was the correct blend of his earlier manic aggression and the later more patient fighter. Fantastic fight, DeJesus does his part to make them all competitive and exciting.
MRBILL
11-21-2009, 03:01 AM
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Fuck no, man............ The massacre of Moore in '83 is tops.......:yep
MR.BILL:rasta
Addie
11-21-2009, 03:06 AM
Fuck no, man............ The massacre of Moore in '83 is tops.......:yep
MR.BILL:rasta
I love that fight too, but I think he beat a much more experienced fighter in Palamino, and he fought a much more technical fight than against Moore, it could be argued. For me, Duran's greatest ever performance was probably against Barkley...but Palamino, Leonard I, Barkley, and Moore...are all masterpieces.
Sweet Pea
11-21-2009, 03:15 AM
I'd say so. I think he looked just as good in those fights as he ever did at LW.
MRBILL
11-21-2009, 03:19 AM
"Duran-Moore" is my all-time favorite ass-beating to review upon being totally tweaked and in the mood to rumble........ Maybe I am sick, but I drool at the mouth even here in 2009 when I see Moore getting mauled and beaten to a pulp by Duran on my videotape....... I never get tired of that massacre..........
MR.BILL
My2Sense
11-21-2009, 03:30 AM
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I think so. In fact, I think Duran was actually better at this stage of his career than he had been at 135. I think he was stronger and sturdier with the added weight, while also more experienced and disciplined, and still retaining much of his speed.
anarci
11-21-2009, 04:07 AM
I love that fight too, but I think he beat a much more experienced fighter in Palamino, and he fought a much more technical fight than against Moore, it could be argued. For me, Duran's greatest ever performance was probably against Barkley...but Palamino, Leonard I, Barkley, and Moore...are all masterpieces.
This was an impressive fight and I think the 2nd Dejesus fight was too,as was the Lampkin fight who many thought had a good shot at beating Duran. His knockout over Kobayashi was great also and he was very young then. The Barkley and Moore fights were great but that was a just a shadow of the lightning fast and hard hitting Duran of the past. Just goes to show you how great he really was.
If he didnt fade out the last couple rounds against Hagler that win would have arguably put him at #1 ATG.
Xplosive
11-21-2009, 05:51 AM
The Palimino fight IMO is his 2nd best performance.
essexboy
11-21-2009, 06:17 AM
Cant believe the shit I've been reading about Duran in the GF recently. I know their morons but its disgusting. This was a superb win but Leonard I takes it imo.
Bill Butcher
11-21-2009, 06:28 AM
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Ive long thought that Duran`s top 3 performances were... in no order....
Dejesus III
Palomino
Leonard I
Roberto was ready for the great Sugar Ray Leonard at the time of the Palomino fight, no doubt, I dont think he actually improved in the time frame between Palomino & Leonard, he just added more contenders to his victim list to earn his shot the old school way... the Palomino version would have put in no less of a performance vs Leonard than the actual version.
I used to watch the Duran-Palomino fight regularly just to view the class of peak Duran... not seen it in a while, might watch it today at some point, Im feeling a `Duran phase` coming on again.
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Bill Butcher
11-21-2009, 06:34 AM
I'd say so. I think he looked just as good in those fights as he ever did at LW.
I think so to, only Dejesus III is on any sort of par with the Palomino & Leonard fights IMO... he looked every bit one of the 10 best ever fighters in those fights.
These are obviously fights that the guys who vote `Pac KO Duran` havent seen.
Flea Man
11-21-2009, 06:47 AM
I think so to, only Dejesus III is on any sort of par with the Palomino & Leonard fights IMO... he looked every bit one of the 10 best ever fighters in those fights.
These are obviously fights that the guys who vote `Pac KO Duran` havent seen.
They wouldn't care even if they had seen these fights. They're casuals.
Mantequilla
11-21-2009, 07:16 AM
The Villa fight is a seriously underrated one.
WhataRock
11-21-2009, 07:55 AM
The Villa fight is a seriously underrated one.
Agreed.
My copy isnt the best quality...Black and white, a little grainy.
But you could tell Villa was something special..poor cunt just ran into Benitez and Duran...and Locche from memory?
Hard ask beating those blokes.
AREA 53
11-21-2009, 08:03 AM
I am not claiming it is one of his top 5 performances, but has i recall Durans Fight with Cuevas was seen in many quarters as a Bye Bye Roberto fight, Coming after a loss to Kirk Laing and a very laboured showing against Jimmy Batten, Many felt Pipino had a good punchers chance, of course faced with that hint of Danger and Machismo Challenge Roberto ressurected himself and earned the Davey Moore fight with the brutal dismissal of Pipino, for two rounds it was a tense affair awaitng someones mistake, then Roberto went into Savage Overdrive....
As i say perhaps not one of his top 5 - Cuevas may not of had a lot left, but Pre Fight the common feeling was that this would not be easy, But Roberto ultimately made it look that way.
TheGreatA
11-21-2009, 08:19 AM
I am not claiming it is one of his top 5 performances, but has i recall Durans Fight with Cuevas was seen in many quarters as a Bye Bye Roberto fight, Coming after a loss to Kirk Laing and a very laboured showing against Jimmy Batten, Many felt Pipino had a good punchers chance, of course faced with that hint of Danger and Machismo Challenge Roberto ressurected himself and earned the Davey Moore fight with the brutal dismissal of Pipino, for two rounds it was a tense affair awaitng someones mistake, then Roberto went into Savage Overdrive....
As i say perhaps not one of his top 5 - Cuevas may not of had a lot left, but Pre Fight the common feeling was that this would not be easy, But Roberto ultimately made it look that way.
I was impressed with Duran's ability to take Cuevas's punches like they were nothing.
The third DeJesus fight may have been his best performance in my opinion. Duran may have looked every bit as good against Palomino and Leonard as he did at 135 but not in the fights he had in between. He was awful by his standards against Zeferino Gonzales and didn't look too awesome against Nsubaga or Wheatley either.
WhataRock
11-21-2009, 08:28 AM
He phoned in the Heair fights a bit aswell IMO.
Jimmy took an awful beating and as usual stood up to it...but Roberto looked puffed at times dishing it out..certainly not as fit as he looked against Carlos or Ray.
natonic
11-21-2009, 10:07 AM
Fuck no, man............ The massacre of Moore in '83 is tops.......:yep
MR.BILL:rasta
Stuck in the 80's ;-)
Flea Man
11-21-2009, 10:26 AM
As I say, like his patience and accuracy in the fight with Guts. The Koyabashi fight is a savage display, some beautiful black and white footage. Has anyone seen the whole Marcel fight?
Robbi
11-21-2009, 10:52 AM
De Jesus III
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