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BrummyLad
11-21-2009, 10:22 AM
This is not a prediction thread or how the fight will go or who is best etc...

Floyd is the master of hitting and not being hit, but in his last fight JMM got thru with a few shots, my question is, how will floyd react when pac lands those bombs. We know about his skills, but what about his heart/desire. Will he throw caution to the wind if his shoulder roll and counter punches dont work?

Thoughts?

threethirteen
11-21-2009, 10:27 AM
Floyd's so smart and so adaptable, but he tends to just cover up if someone starts unloading. He looks for gaps while someone's throwing, then he takes advantage of them.

If he gets stung, he'll get on his toes and make Manny miss.

Mattf450
11-21-2009, 10:40 AM
I think there may be tears

dan-b
11-21-2009, 10:47 AM
When Judah hurt Mayweather, he covered up on the ropes. I should imagine he'd do the same against Pac.

onourway
11-21-2009, 10:52 AM
I think he'll smile uncomfortably and cover up on the ropes.

dan-b
11-21-2009, 10:53 AM
I think he'll smile uncomfortably and cover up on the ropes.

:lol:Yeah, I forgot about the uncomfortable smile.

silly_illy
11-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn forest runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!

BrummyLad
11-21-2009, 10:57 AM
thanks for posts guys however if he rfuns he cannot win rounds can he? im totally against dodgy judges etc but i find it hard to give mayweather the win on points if pac chased him all night and hit him a couple of time. Floyds '0' will go if he resorts to running imo, he may have to get his hands dirty...

Flea Man
11-21-2009, 11:01 AM
He has the lateral movement to get out of harms way but can he stop from constantly posing on the ropes? Can he maintain a workrate that will see him win a decision against the popular buzzsaw? The key is for Floyd to throw his fantastic jab to the pit of Pacs stomach, stay off the ropes and keep it at ring centre with Pac out of range and hitting him with sharp right hands and left hooks when he tries to close the gap with his quick feet.

Do I think Floyd will win? No. Pacmans blurringly fast combinations, solid shots, decent punch resistance and free-flowing Jazzy style will see him win on points in a close fight. Neither man seriously hurt, more cagey moments akin to Marquez 2, Floyds superiority to JMM (though Marquez has more balls) negate Pacs usual destructive accuracy. But Floyd has too many bad habits to go in with an offensive whirlwind like Pac.

Olu G. Rotimi
11-21-2009, 11:30 AM
The fact that he fought Castillo with a torn rotator cuff and damaged his hands damaged against Hernandez and fought on to win tells us there is nothing wrong with his heart.

Mandanda
11-21-2009, 12:00 PM
If he's hurt he just covers up,tucks chin down and then looks to see out the attack and normally likes to duck low and be side on in the pocket and he's good at using his forearms to blind his opponent as they try attack. He will use these skills and tricks to see out the storm imo.

Floyd's to smart to trade so he won't play into his hands he will just see out the attack and go back to boxing. When Floyd has come out of his comfort zone and attacked with purpose he's an animal. Lands pretty much at will...each punch with power and precision. The reason he doesn't normally throw caution to the wind is because he doesn't have to and he has bad hands so he just uses them to pot shot and he's does it well. I don't question Floyd's heart and lets face it...the reason people ask this question is because he rarely has to rely on it which says alot about him as a boxer.

achillesthegreat
11-21-2009, 12:08 PM
Is this a joke? Like Judah, Castillo, Corely and others haven't landed numerous punches on him. Corely hurt him with a big right hook, he took it and came back incredibly strong. Castillo in the first fight fucked him up. Broke two of his ribs and landed massive punches to the head. Castillo, Judah and Corely are good punchers.

THE KNUCKLE
11-21-2009, 07:05 PM
This is not a prediction thread or how the fight will go or who is best etc...

Floyd is the master of hitting and not being hit, but in his last fight JMM got thru with a few shots, my question is, how will floyd react when pac lands those bombs. We know about his skills, but what about his heart/desire. Will he throw caution to the wind if his shoulder roll and counter punches dont work?

Thoughts?
THE GUYS THE BEST BOXER OF ALL TIME AND WILL NEVER BE BEATEN.FACT.:deal

Axl_Nose
11-21-2009, 07:19 PM
The hype has already started on this match-up, some newspapers are comparing it to Ali v Frazier, some are comparing it to Duran v Leonard .. In reality this will be an absolutely one-sided affair, Manny Pac is a brilliant fighter, i've always backed against him because for some emotional reason i want him to lose and get beaten up badly, not because i dislike him, i think he's brilliant but i've never gotten over the fact that he was the guy that destroyed my favourite fighter, Erik Morales .. For me he got to Morales when Erik was on the slide, and lets not forget Morales did an absolute number on Pac .... But forgetting my own personal, ridiculous problems with Pac, if he goes in against Floyd, he's going in against a true artist, not just a boxer, Floyd has every shot in the book, he controls fights, he's a brilliant counter puncher and a brilliant defensive fighter .. Pac has zero chance in this fight, he'd have zero chance against Leonard, zero chance against Hearns, zero chance against Duran and zero chance against Benitez, to be honest i wouldnt give him much of a chance against Chavez or Whitaker ........ Modern day hype is absolutely unbelieveable to an extent were fighters of the past who are actually a million times better than modern day fighters are considered bums .. Its ridiculous, Comparing Mayweather to Leonard is a joke, comparing Pac to Duran is a joke, and anybody who is buying into this hype needs to get a boxing education ..

Top Dog
11-21-2009, 07:24 PM
The bitch will burst out crying:lol: hopefully:smooch

Axl_Nose
11-21-2009, 07:29 PM
How can anybody pick Pac to beat Floyd ?? Styles make fights, its the golden rule, if Pac had a 5 inch reach advantage, if he had a great jab and a dynamite right hand then i'd pick Pac but he hasnt got any of these .. He's got speed and angles, but he's not going to be able to and any of these without taking counters off Floyd .. If Floyd was going in against a welter Hearns then Floyd would be in serious danger but Pac aint no Hearns. Hearns would knock out Pac in 2 or 3 rounds .. Don Curry would deal with Pac in 5 rounds, and i actually think a prime Curry would take out Floyd in 8 or 9 .... I think mainly because Floyd and Pac arent really Welterweights. They are comfortable in this division because there are no dangerous 'sharks' in the division, if there were, you'd see Floyd at 140 and Pac at 135, their only brave because there are no real dangerous 'punchers' in the division ..

Top Dog
11-21-2009, 08:11 PM
How can anybody pick Pac to beat Floyd ?? Styles make fights, its the golden rule, if Pac had a 5 inch reach advantage, if he had a great jab and a dynamite right hand then i'd pick Pac but he hasnt got any of these .. He's got speed and angles, but he's not going to be able to and any of these without taking counters off Floyd .. If Floyd was going in against a welter Hearns then Floyd would be in serious danger but Pac aint no Hearns. Hearns would knock out Pac in 2 or 3 rounds .. Don Curry would deal with Pac in 5 rounds, and i actually think a prime Curry would take out Floyd in 8 or 9 .... I think mainly because Floyd and Pac arent really Welterweights. They are comfortable in this division because there are no dangerous 'sharks' in the division, if there were, you'd see Floyd at 140 and Pac at 135, their only brave because there are no real dangerous 'punchers' in the division ..

Cause Manny has a great engine and is sharp as fuck. DLH was beating Floyd but ran out of steam, Manny aint gonna

BIG WORM
11-21-2009, 08:14 PM
MAyweather would go on the defensive, i think he'd start panicking !!

If he was seriously hurt i think he'd start getting erratic, because hes never been hurt before......

robpalmer135
11-21-2009, 08:17 PM
watch mayweather against southpaws. never had problems.

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 08:49 PM
he tends to bang back with avengence when u hurt him. :bbb

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 08:51 PM
watch mayweather against southpaws. never had problems.

yeah it's a myth.

only time he's had problems is with effective aggression.

but u can't take too many chances like hatton and chavez did.

otherwise he works u over. :!:

Top Dog
11-21-2009, 08:53 PM
yeah it's a myth.

only time he's had problems is with effective aggression.

but u can't take too many chances like hatton and chavez did.

otherwise he works u over. :!:

Yeah but Hatton fought like Bozo the Clown

Top Dog
11-21-2009, 08:54 PM
Floyds gonna run like a beeitch

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 08:55 PM
Yeah but Hatton fought like Bozo the Clown

:nut

Brick-Top
11-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Cause Manny has a great engine and is sharp as fuck. DLH was beating Floyd but ran out of steam, Manny aint gonna

DLH also had height and reach advantage, choice of weight gloves and ringsize. Pac doesnt hold these over floyd

Top Dog
11-21-2009, 09:11 PM
:nut

No mate he did, fuckin terrible, fought like a dafty

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 09:15 PM
No mate he did, fuckin terrible, fought like a dafty

wouldn't go that far.

he was doing ok for 5 rds.

holding his own.

hatton puts pressure on.

that's the way he fights.

he's had a damn good career using that style to.

one of the best pressure fighters of the 00's. :good

Primadonna Kool
11-21-2009, 09:38 PM
turn black on his ass.

Axl_Nose
11-21-2009, 09:59 PM
Cause Manny has a great engine and is sharp as fuck. DLH was beating Floyd but ran out of steam, Manny aint gonna

Floyd knows how a fight is going, he knows if he is ahead or if he is behind, all the great fighters know how a fight is going .. Floyd v Oscar was a ridiculous split decision, Floyd was winning all the way in that fight .. Manny's engine maybe his downfall against Floyd, he'll just keep coming forward, Floyd is so comfortable backing up that it'll be easy for him .. And all you idiots comparing this Pac fight to the Castillo fight, take it from me, Castillo was a brilliant Lightweight, one of the very best of all time at his best. Its easy to criticise a guy like Castillo and big up a guy like Pac in 2009 knowing that Castillo is done and Pac is the name of the moment .... Floyd is on a totally different level of 'Boxing' than Pac and he's going to put on a show .....

Some of you guys dont seem to have a boxing education, as simply as i can put it, Pre Tyson was were the real fighters hung out, before Tyson, Boxing was a real sport were it was the most respected sport in the world .. After Tyson it turned into a WWF circus were average-good fighters were hyped and 'sold to the public' as if they were as good as the fighters before them .. There are certain fighters that can be classed with the fighters of the past, but only a select few, they are, Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones, Ricardo Lopez, Erik Morales, Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather .....

I know alot of you will mention obscure Thai fighters or Japanese fighters but nobody is fooled, if they didnt do it on the big stage, in America against top rank opposition then theres doubts .. Alot of you will doubt my inclusion of Morales but he electrified anybody who ever witnessed him fight .... Anybody who doubts Holyfield is an absolute joke as far as im concerned, Evander is easily the best heavy since Holmes, for anybody who knows anything about boxing that is a cast iron fact .. The Tyson and Lewis fans are a product of social programming, Holyfield at his best wasnt consistent but he would of beaten Lewis and Tyson at their very best ....... Thats a fact ..

Holyfield v Tyson
Holyfield v Dokes
Holyfield v Bowe 1
Holyfield v Bowe 2
Holyfield v Qawwi (Cruiser)
Holyfield v Moorer 2
Holyfield v Mercer

are 6 of the very best Heavyweight fights you will ever see .. Tyson couldnt take punches, and Lewis got knocked out by 2 of the biggest bums in heavyweight history, McCall and Rahman ..... The way Holyfield beat up Tyson and then stopped him was the most beautiful thing in boxing, nobody gave Evander a chance but he faced up to the 'supposed' iron man and destroyed him, my personal favourite boxing memory ....

Tyson fans are so irritating, and their usually 12 years old who know nothing ..........

Axl_Nose
11-21-2009, 10:10 PM
Floyds gonna run like a beeitch

Yeah he'll run, and pick off Pac all the way before he knocks him out, probably around the 10 th round ..... Floyd is the heir apparent to Roy Jones and Ray Leonard ..... 'Come Forward' fighters like Pac are 'Easy Meat' to these artists .... Its time people put their prejudice to one side and appreciate Floyd Mayweather for what he is .. There might not be another Floyd Mayweather for 20-30 years .... As a humble student of boxing i realise 'True Class', some of the bums on here dont have a clue, they sound like 10 year olds who have watched 10 fights ......

Boxing is a sport were you need experience to have an opinion ...... Its no good watching a few fights and then mouthing off .. If you dont have at least 15 years experience in the sport, if you dont read books about the history of the sport, then your opinion counts for nothing, and you know shit as far as im concerned .... Stick to football 'Topdog' ....

Brick-Top
11-21-2009, 10:17 PM
turn black on his ass.

:yep

Olu G. Rotimi
11-22-2009, 04:21 AM
He has the lateral movement to get out of harms way but can he stop from constantly posing on the ropes? Can he maintain a workrate that will see him win a decision against the popular buzzsaw? The key is for Floyd to throw his fantastic jab to the pit of Pacs stomach, stay off the ropes and keep it at ring centre with Pac out of range and hitting him with sharp right hands and left hooks when he tries to close the gap with his quick feet.

Do I think Floyd will win? No. Pacmans blurringly fast combinations, solid shots, decent punch resistance and free-flowing Jazzy style will see him win on points in a close fight. Neither man seriously hurt, more cagey moments akin to Marquez 2, Floyds superiority to JMM (though Marquez has more balls) negate Pacs usual destructive accuracy. But Floyd has too many bad habits to go in with an offensive whirlwind like Pac.
Fleaman I believe PBF will stop Pacman. I have always done. While the Cotto win was a great victory which In commend Pacman strongly for as he was under threat though Cotto ultimately fought the wrong fight having started very well. Pacman's flaws will be meat and drink to PBF. Apart from PBF's jab which will hit Pacman consistently and often both to the body and to the head, the left hook will find a consistent home as will the straight right hand.

Olu G. Rotimi
11-22-2009, 04:28 AM
wouldn't go that far.

he was doing ok for 5 rds.

holding his own.

hatton puts pressure on.

that's the way he fights.

he's had a damn good career using that style to.

one of the best pressure fighters of the 00's. :good

I watched the fight again several times and he was not doing okay in the 1st 5 rounds. He was losing the fight and PBF was putting him into a hole to bury. He was playing goalkeeper with his face and hurting him to the body. The only round he won arguably is the 5th because PBF allowed him to by letting him tire himself by throwing punchjes that were blocked and had no effect. Sorry but that is the truth. He was outclassed.