Can Munroe Sweep Nishioka Aside?

[Losfer_Words]

I'm quite suprised that there hasn't been a thread about this yet, so here goes:

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The affable Rendall Munroe is now set to face WBC Super Bantam titleholder Toshiaki Nishioka in a fight that will see a British fighter square-off for a genuine world title; the fight will hopefully get a lot more coverage than the N'Dou-Mini Hatton 'world title' farce as well as Munroe has earned it the old fashioned way and deserves a spot in the limelight.

Nishioka will undoubtedly be Munroe's biggest challenge to date, but Nishioka isn't infallable either. Can Rendall bring the goods home?

Thoughts, as always, are welcome.:good

[nulty]

Munroe will be WBC champ. Somethings are meant to be and te binman winning the WBC belt is one of them. He won't last long at world level.

[PatrickP]

If Maloney were to put Munroe in with Nishioka at this point I would be very surprised. Munroe is not world class, it really is that simple & if he fights any world class guy he will be in over his head. Leaning on your opponent on the ropes throwing arm punches all night is not going to cut it at world level. So no, he won't be sweeping any world champ aside.

Note to Beeston Brawler : I'm commenting not trolling :D

[kosaros]

TBH, I haven't seen Nishioka fight before, so I don't know what Munroe's chances are in the fight.

Still, I think Munroe has found his level, but it would be nice for him to go for a world title - I am sure he would give it his all and earn himself a decent bit of money, plus it will get him some more exposure :good

[Losfer_Words]

TBH, I haven't seen Nishioka fight before, so I don't know what Munroe's chances are in the fight.

Still, I think Munroe has found his level, but it would be nice for him to go for a world title - I am sure he would give it his all and earn himself a decent bit of money, plus it will get him some more exposure :good

Check out youtube then, Kos- unless the vids have been removed from when I first saw them. As you say, even if he loses hopefully he makes some good money out of it. I'd love him to win it, though- may well just be one of British boxing's biggest fairytale stories.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think he has a lot of attributes that the bigger name boxers would love to have......

His stamina is second to none, workrate is excellent and he can take a decent shot.

But I just don't see him doing it....... would love to be wrong though. Either way, if it's here I will be going.

[kosaros]

Check out youtube then, Kos- unless the vids have been removed from when I first saw them. As you say, even if he loses hopefully he makes some good money out of it. I'd love him to win it, though- may well just be one of British boxing's biggest fairytale stories.

WTF is youtube??? ;)

[Losfer_Words]

I think he has a lot of attributes that the bigger name boxers would love to have......

His stamina is second to none, workrate is excellent and he can take a decent shot.

But I just don't see him doing it....... would love to be wrong though. Either way, if it's here I will be going.

Why not? Nishioka is good, but he is beatable. I reckon Munroe could really push the champ. He just turned round a very hard fight against a very good opponent in Maludrottu (if that's how it's spelled) as well and you could argue that this is Nishioka's best challenge in his last few fights:think.

WTF is youtube??? ;)

It's this amazing site where there are a shitload of videos on loads of different things. Idiots who post vids from their mobiles have pretty much ruined the search function, though!:twisted:

[Beeston Brawler]

I think he could as well, don't get me wrong.

IMO his corner have been copping a lot of unneccessary flak..... they aren't geniuses or anything, but they give clear instructions at all times and maintain a calm corner - I really hate cheerleaders/shouters and screamers :lol:

One thing that concerns me is his liking of a tear up - his chin is good, he is a good body puncher and such, but he regularly got into the perfect range to make Maludrottu look amateurish, but still got dragged in - might have been the occasion, ring rust, who knows......

[TFFP]

I'd have to have a look at Nishioka. I'd be surprised if many have viewed him extensively aside from his impressive stoppage over Jhonny Gonzalez.

[royalt0208]

I think he lacks that x factor (sorry for the bad pun) needed to make it at world level. He has good atributes and actually has a well rounded enough game to make it but just doesn't have anything special. I just wish he would get a new experienced high quality trainer and I would like him to go to the US to spar world class fighters rather then good prospects and decent domestic level fighters. I doubt he will fight for the title in England either Frank Baloney will put in a low ball offer in the purse bids and will lose the rights to the Japanese Promoters.

[BigEars]

I'd have to have a look at Nishioka. I'd be surprised if many have viewed him extensively aside from his impressive stoppage over Jhonny Gonzalez.

I had watched him previously to the Gonzalez fight, but that was some time ago. He did look very very good from what I remember though. Then I saw the fights against Jhonny and Choko Hernandez.

Gonzalez would be the #1 Super-Bantamweight in the World if not for his lack of durability, the guy has everything else and is a top class fighter. Despite getting floored by a good shot, Nishioka was very much in that fight(winning the 2nd and being 50/50 in the 3rd till he landed that monster shot).
He looked okay against Hernandez, not as good as the Gonzalez fight but still miles above Munroe.


I remember Munroe being shaken a little by Matirosian, and while rewatching the Trotta fight recently I noticed he had his legs wobbled in the 2nd/3rd(it was highlighted as a replay between rounds and the commentators picked up on it). Prior to rethinking about those fights I was contemplating Munroe maybe losing a 120-108 decision with him taking an absolute beating. But if he's hurt by lesser punchers who won't hit him as often, from as odd angles and with such speed then Nishioka will stop him.

Nishioka stoppage by the 6th round having won all the previous rounds.
Munroe will give it his all but he's just not good enough, the only advantage he'll have on the Japanese fighter is size and maybe home advantage.....but even the second of those is unlikely.

Nishioka imo is probably the best at the weight.

[icemax]

..... they aren't geniuses or anything, but they give clear instructions at all times and maintain a calm corner

"Go on, hit him" doesn't constitute a clear instruction :yep

[GladiatoR]

Munroe doesn't have the power to beat Nishioka.

[IntentionalButt]

My feeling is that Nishioka would stop him before too long, but it would be cracking.

[Flea Man]

There were quite a few Nishioka vids on the tube, followed him from when he won the interim title as I was big on Vasquez at the time (still am, he's a f'n warrior) and I have to say he's fairly tidy, can be caught, but is comfortable at mid-range and uses his fast feet to bear in and bomb with his left. Decent body puncher too. I think Munroe will be competitive, but he's not a puncher (and to my knowledge Nishioka has never been stopped, maybe once early on, too stoned to be arsed to check boxrec) he's open, and even if he does manage to use his height he will still be open to the bomb.

One thing: surely these two will NOT take part in an all-southpaw stinker?

Nishioka 5-1 up in rounds, stopes the Bin Man in the 7th, towel gets thrown in with Nishioka piling it on.

This is my preferred option as I want to see Nishioka vs Poonsewat (Hasegawa fights the winner :good)I'll obviously be rooting for Munroe on the night, if it actually comes off. There was a bit about it in the news of the world, which is the journalistic quality of an old wives tale.

[paddymickey]

Munroe is very good in the following departments
1> Stamina
2> Work rate
3> Chin
He has a good reach and is tall for the division. It might just be enough depending on the quality of Nishioka who I have only seen twice. I think Nishioka has power but there is a small chance Munroe could use his leaning tactics combined with a tigh defense to escape a ko punch. Kiko couldn't crack him so I think he has a chance against Nishioka.
The areas of concern for me are that Munroe has no angles, he is 1 dimensional and he does not have any power punches. His best chance would be if Maloney could get him a crack in the UK. I'm a Bernard Dunne fan and I would be rooting for Munroe because I think it would be great and I am publishing this opinion with no bias and hope that the whole munroe v dunne debate will stop. Their both great boxers and they don't need to be compared to each other. Their also 2 great guys and great ambassadors for the sport in my opinion.

[Mandanda]

Well the Stoppage over Gonzalez was very very impressive if i remember rightly..body shot?? if he's consistently around that level then Munroe won't beat him unless it becomes like Dunne-Cordoba and the fight is just a war of wills.

[BigEars]

Well the Stoppage over Gonzalez was very very impressive if i remember rightly..body shot?? if he's consistently around that level then Munroe won't beat him unless it becomes like Dunne-Cordoba and the fight is just a war of wills.

No that was Penalosa who stopped Gonzalez on a body shot(after Penalosa lost every round and was taking a bit of a hammering).

Nishioka laid on Jhonny flat on his back with one straight left.

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Watched Munroe v Maludrottu yesterday, had Maludrottu winning 115-113.
Doesn't bode well for Rendall trying to win at World level if he's losing(imo) at European.

[pne buz]

Munroe is frustrating as he looks built for power.Unfortunatley his arms are too long and struggles to find the space and leveridge to use any power he might posess.

[Mandanda]

No that was Penalosa who stopped Gonzalez on a body shot(after Penalosa lost every round and was taking a bit of a hammering).

Nishioka laid on Jhonny flat on his back with one straight left.

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Watched Munroe v Maludrottu yesterday, had Maludrottu winning 115-113.
Doesn't bode well for Rendall trying to win at World level if he's losing(imo) at European.

Cheers Mate

Got muddled up :good

Yep agreed and this guy looks slick and digs aswell.

[cubex]

I don't know....Mnroe has a very sloppy punch technique...no snap at all.Once he used his physical strength and made Maludrottu fight going backwards it was a lot easier but still he looked a bit spent at the end of the 12th.Had it a draw.
Nishioka would give him angles and can fight on the backfoot.Pure workrate won't work against Nishioka.

The Japansese fighter woyuld be a big favorite IMO.