Peter vs prime Tyson

[Stinky gloves]

Did Mike have enough pop to KO Peter?

[brooklyn1550]

Yes, I'd say round 5

[unclepaulie]

A prime tyson moved too much and had too good a defense (yes he did, study your tapes) for peter to deal with. those slow, looping right hands wouldn't hit a prime tyson more than once or twice out of ten throws. personally i think tyson would just swarm peter too much, duck and head jive preventing peter from loading up and would nail him with a killer uppercut.

the way tyson would step out of the way, duck down and then load up and use his leverage from being ducked down would ko almost anyone. i think tyson starches peter in about 4 or 5.

[cuchulain]

Yes, I'd say round 5


I'd say quicker than that. Maybe 3.

[thewoo]

I don't think that it's a question on if Tyson would KP peter. It's more a question of how long it would take him. I'm thinking 3 rounds.

[Fab2333]

Yes, I'd say round 5
yeah thats a good prediction, I agree with that. prime Mike was actually a good boxer believe it or not, or as I like to call it pre jail tyson. Had fast hands, good headmovement, unbelieveable power. He would take Peter

[brooklyn1550]

Peter has the perfect style for Mike to shine against. He's not very good defensively, he's slow, and he comes right at you.

[bachatu]

This would be way too much of an over match. The biggest problem heavyweights had with a prime Tyson was his speed. Power was another issue, but they weren't able to punish him while he was able beat the crap out of them. In this case, Peter is slower than the average heavyweight..his only life span on this fight would be how long his chin would hold up. I take Tyson on a 4 round KO by a blow to the body.
Til this day there hasn't been a heavyweight with such a combo of speed and power as Tyson. He was in the "40/40" club of boxing if you will.

[He Hate Me]

This one's not even close, tyson by ko within 5 rounds.

[jsimps]

Tyson was a monster in his prime. He would have overwhelmed with speed and power. He was a very "slick" HW. I pick rd 3.

[LennoxGOAT]

Peter is not Spinks.

I don't like betting on Tyson against anyone with an iron chin and that is not afraid of him.

Tyson by a UD, but I could see Peter knocking out Tyson late after he tired and most likely would give up. Tyson would not and could not knock out Peter. Period.

[BewareofDawg]

:patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch
Peter is no where near the level Tyson was on!!!!!!!!
Tyson by brutal Ass Raping.

[Fab2333]

:patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch
Peter is no where near the level Tyson was on!!!!!!!!
Tyson by brutal Ass Raping.:rofl:rofl:rofl:good

[Saltzy]

Tyson KO 2-5 rounds.

Unlike Wlad who just threw a decent 1-2 and ran off allowing Peter to recover, Tyson throws in combinations and if he landed a good shot you better believe hes gonna follow up with BOMBS.

[ApatheticLeader]

It's always funny when people talk about a prime tyson as if he was some Godly figure. I liked the prime tyson as much as everybody but he ain't going to knock peter out in 5.

Exactly, it's so ridiculous it's painful. And the cult is so bad that any half-decent fighter with a similar style becomes equally over-rated.
(Yes, I'm thinking of Lacy here...)

[SteveO]

Tyson TKO in round 8-10.

[josak]

Peter is a punching bag for Tyson. This ends brutally and quickly.

[ChampionsForever]

This would be a brutal KO due to Peters chin, think Pinklon Thomas like, taking several KO shots before actually hitting the deck :!:.

[Executioner]

Tyson KO4

[Ted Stickles]

Prime Tyson inside of 5 easily.........

[nick wells jr]

i dont know sam peter could knock over a building.could mike take peters power?

[McGrain]

I would guess that Peter's corner would pull him out, maybe after round 7 or 8. Or the ref might rescue him around the same time.


No, I don't think that he could knock Peter out for the count, 1-10.

[Executioner]

could mike take peters power?

uh, could James Toney?

[brooklyn1550]

i dont know sam peter could knock over a building.could mike take peters power?

Yes, Mike could take his power. Robert Hawkins, Charles Shufford, Jovo Pudar, and James Toney all took Peter's power, so I can definitely see Tyson being able to handle it. After all, he took massive shots from big punchers like Lewis, Bruno, Ruddock, etc as well as massive beatings from Holyfield and Douglas. The question is...could Peter land a big punch on the elusive/fast Tyson?

Peter is nothing Tyson couldn't handle

[Curtis Lowe]

Did Mike have enough pop to KO Peter?

See Tyson vs Berbick.

[tays001]

HELL YES TYSON by decapitation

[rendog67]

peter would not get time to think or even breathe in there with prime tyson. Guaranteed k.o and i think Tyson puts on a good boxing show as well as knocks him out middle rounds, unless the towel comes flying in first.

[Stinky gloves]

Peter have great chin and great power, he might definitely withstand Tyson's
shots for a few rounds and land something big in the mean time ...

[anut]

PETER WOULD STAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF TYSON....TYSON WOULD KNOCK HIM OUT IN 5 OR 6 RDS....PS TYSON WOULDNT LOOSE A RD..:smoke:smoke:smoke

[anut]

Peter is not Spinks.

I don't like betting on Tyson against anyone with an iron chin and that is not afraid of him.

Tyson by a UD, but I could see Peter knocking out Tyson late after he tired and most likely would give up. Tyson would not and could not knock out Peter. Period.

UMMMMMMM.....PETER WOBBLED BADLY IN RD 12 LEFT HOOK FROM WLAD WOBBLED HIM......TYSONS HOOK IS FASTER AND HARDER....TRUST ME PETER WOULD NOT SURVIVE:smoke:smoke:smoke

[box03]

Tyson was better than Peter in every aspect with the possible exception of having a better chin than Peter, Tyson would win by 8th round KO.

[anut]

i dont know sam peter could knock over a building.could mike take peters power?

YUP........TYSON DOESNT GET KOD WITH 1 PUNCH....WHEN TYSON GETS KOD ITS ACUMMILATION......:smoke:smoke:smoke

[anut]

[quote=Black]Tim Whitherspoon on his best night would have absolutely annhiliated Tyson.[/quot

I LUV WITHERSPOON.....BUT HE WOULDNT BEAT TYSON.

[stuistylee]

tyson between 3-5 possibly a tko and not a clean knockout

[MrMagic]

Tim Whitherspoon on his best night would have absolutely annhiliated Tyson.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[MrMagic]

Tyson is on another level, seriously.
It's not fair to Peter, to make this thread.. not at this point, and by the way.. Peter is still learning the craft, he might very well be looked upon in another perspective in a few years from now.
One thing is certain, if Klitschko would be on those shaky legs against a prime Mike, he would get obliterated immediately!

[Stinky gloves]

:yep

Tyson had a great chin, don't foregt about that, and Peter hits hard but he isn't the hardest hitter ever to roam the division. If Tyson could take bombs from Lewis and Ruddock round after round, then he can take whatever swipes Peter actually manages to land on him. Which wouldn't be many.
Tyson was TKOed by Lewis and also a few times earlier.
Is not like Tua or McCall where you have a prof they never been KOed.

[Mrvooh]

Tim Whitherspoon on his best night would have absolutely annhiliated Tyson. Since you are the only one not kissing Tysons' butt here...Also recall the TKO ouglas gave Mike, and if Peter caught him like that.......:yikes

[Stinky gloves]

Even the single shot Peter land on Wiliams?

[brooklyn1550]

Even the single shot Peter land on Wiliams?

That punch could hurt anybody badly if it landed flush and they didn't see it coming. The problem is that he would have an extremely hard time landing it on a world class fighter with excellent defense.

[2smart4u]

:lol: Yes it took alot of shots to ko TYSON ! but quess what ! He took all those shots because he turtled when hurt and never recovered ! TYSON would not enjoy the larger stronger guy raining haymakers at him and he wouldnt last if he got hurt ! :deal

[brooklyn1550]

:lol: Yes it took alot of shots to ko TYSON ! but quess what ! He took all those shots because he turtled when hurt and never recovered ! TYSON would not enjoy the larger stronger guy raining haymakers at him and he wouldnt last if he got hurt ! :deal

Frank Bruno wobbled him in the 1st round of their fight and Tyson didn't go into a shell. He came back to stop Frank in the mid rounds.

[box03]

:lol: Yes it took alot of shots to ko TYSON ! but quess what ! He took all those shots because he turtled when hurt and never recovered ! TYSON would not enjoy the larger stronger guy raining haymakers at him and he wouldnt last if he got hurt ! :deal He didnt turtle when he got hit by Ruddick, who most would say punches harder than Peter. Tyson in his prime was able to take punches and fight back, Tyson out of prison from 95-05 is a different story.:yep

[hobgoblin]

One thing peter does have is a chin of steel so i doubt even a prime Tyson can knock him out in 5 like someone mentioned. The ref would probably wave it off in 9.

you'd think this but peter has a very bad style for tyson, as others described in detail. IF peter was a conventional boxer (even average ability) like tony tucker or even mitch green (who was far from a world beater but still more skilled than peter) - then that style combined with his chin means tyson would unlikely get the ko.

however, because peter will be open due to his style for big shots from tyson and fight without tact like douglas or holyfield, tyson will get the TKO or KO. peter cannot knockout tyson because tyson was too fast & skilled for someone LIKE peter or donovan ruddock (obviously guys like douglas or holy are differnt). this is true even if peter lands some great shots because tyson had a terrific chin and he could keep slugging it out unless he was outboxed which peter cannot do.

[Scar]

Tyson by TKO in round 6. Way too much speed/power/chin/stamina/defense for Peter to handle, Peter gets stopped on his feet though as he runs out of gas in the 6th from all punches thrown(A lot missed) and taken.

[PATSYS]

This is a no brainer, Tyson by KO.

[Jersey Boxer]

oh man, prime Tyson would DESTROY Sam...peter can take a punch but he would be overwhelmed by Tyson's power and aggression, plus he might not be able to stand the biting...
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[Ding]

Tyson by TKO in round 6. Way too much speed/power/chin/stamina/defense for Peter to handle, Peter gets stopped on his feet though as he runs out of gas in the 6th from all punches thrown(A lot missed) and taken.



Exactly the way I see it. :good

[BoxingGuru]

Stupid post. Tyson would kill Peter in the 1st or 2nd round but NO later. Peter has absolutely no boxing skills and would stand there to be hit.

[Stinky gloves]

Stupid post. Tyson would kill Peter in the 1st or 2nd round but NO later. Peter has absolutely no boxing skills and would stand there to be hit.

Absolutley no boxing skills? Didn't he outboxed Toney recently ... ?
I guess you will tell Toney have absolutely no boxing skills either?

[box03]

Absolutley no boxing skills? Didn't he outboxed Toney recently ... ?
I guess you will tell Toney have absolutely no boxing skills either? He will just tell you that Toney is an overwieght blown up super middlewieght, watch what happens when Peter lays out Mccline in under 8 rounds.

[Stinky gloves]

He will just tell you that Toney is an overwieght blown up super middlewieght, watch what happens when Peter lays out Mccline in under 8 rounds.

Toney is fat middleweight, but he knocked out Holyfield,
beat Ruiz and draw with Rahman .... that not the worst record.

It means that even fat he have enough skills to be competitive at high level at HW.
This also mean Peter have some skills since he outboxed Toney ...
he did not knock him out but seriously .... who did?

This gives conclusion: Peter have skills .... but does he have
enough skills to knock out Tyson before Tyson get his chin out.

[bachatu]

Toney is fat middleweight, but he knocked out Holyfield,
beat Ruiz and draw with Rahman .... that not the worst record.

It means that even fat he have enough skills to be competitive at high level at HW.
This also mean Peter have some skills since he outboxed Toney ...
he did not knock him out but seriously .... who did?

This gives conclusion: Peter have skills .... but does he have
enough skills to knock out Tyson before Tyson get his chin out.
He doesn't have the skills to keep up with a prime Tyson. Biggest difference is speed, agility, coordination, technicals skills, defensive skills...all of of the above with exception to power (you can say either man was as powerful)...but when you sum up the fact that Tyson could throw at least 3 punches in a combination for 1 single punch from Peter, you can put the math together. This equation ends in a KO for Tyson in 4-5 rounds.


Put this into prespective: A prime Tyson KO'd Larry Holmes who never had been KO'd in his career. But you may say, "Larry was old and past his prime". Yes indeed he was...however, Larry still continued to fight after he lost to Tyson by KO and was never KO'd by anyone else, that includes fights to Evander Holyfield and Oliver McCall. So til this day, Larry Holmes has only been defeated by KO, and that KO came from Mike Tyson. Although Larry was past his prime, his fight record after the loss to Mike was an impressive 21-3, with two of his losses coming to Evander Holyfield and Oliver McCall by decision. He defeated the rest of the guys, with exception to his third loss, which demonstrated he was still good enough to beat other heavyweights in the division.

Now lets put this comparison out there if I may. Sam Peter fought a James Toney (two times) that is considered to be past his prime but who has never lost by knockout. And, Toney was only knocked down once in his career and that was to Roy Jones Jr. It was more of a flash knock down than anything else. Either way, Sam Peter was not able to knock out James Toney in two bouts. He knocked him down on a off balance shot when he hit Toney with a Jab that hit and pushed him off balance to the canvas.

[Stinky gloves]

He doesn't have the skills to keep up with a prime Tyson. Biggest difference is speed, agility, coordination, technicals skills, defensive skills...all of of the above with exception to power (you can say either man was as powerful)...but when you sum up the fact that Tyson could throw at least 3 punches in a combination for 1 single punch from Peter, you can put the math together. This equation ends in a KO for Tyson in 4-5 rounds.


Put this into prespective: A prime Tyson KO'd Larry Holmes who never had been KO'd in his career. But you may say, "Larry was old and past his prime". Yes indeed he was...however, Larry still continued to fight after he lost to Tyson by KO and was never KO'd by anyone else, that includes fights to Evander Holyfield and Oliver McCall. So til this day, Larry Holmes has only been defeated by KO, and that KO came from Mike Tyson. Although Larry was past his prime, his fight record after the loss to Mike was an impressive 21-3, with two of his losses coming to Evander Holyfield and Oliver McCall by decision. He defeated the rest of the guys, with exception to his third loss, which demonstrated he was still good enough to beat other heavyweights in the division.

Now lets put this comparison out there if I may. Sam Peter fought a James Toney (two times) that is considered to be past his prime but who has never lost by knockout. And, Toney was only knocked down once in his career and that was to Roy Jones Jr. It was more of a flash knock down than anything else. Either way, Sam Peter was not able to knock out James Toney in two bouts. He knocked him down on a off balance shot when he hit Toney with a Jab that hit and pushed him off balance to the canvas.
All this mean Tyson was good enough to knock out Holmes, but Peter was not able to knock out Toney.
Assuming that Homes and Toney are on similar level in the defensive skills it means prime Tyson
had better offensive abilities than Peter. However there is one thing which may equal this - chin.

Tyson have proven record that if someone press him hard then he fails.
Peter have proven record his chin is granite - just see fight with Wlad.
This gives obvious question, which combination will be more significant:

1) Peters granite chin vs Tyson excellent technique and power
2) Peters power but limited skills vs Tyson suspect chin under pressure

?

[josak]

All this mean Tyson was good enough to knock out Holmes, but Peter was not able to knock out Toney.
Assuming that Homes and Toney are on similar level in the defensive skills it means prime Tyson
had better offensive abilities than Peter. However there is one thing which may equal this - chin.

Tyson have proven record that if someone press him hard then he fails.
Peter have proven record his chin is granite - just see fight with Wlad.
This gives obvious question, which combination will be more significant:

1) Peters granite chin vs Tyson excellent technique and power
2) Peters power but limited skills vs Tyson suspect chin under pressure

?

So Tyson taking a series of hard punches from Ruddock, and coming back and KO'ing him doesn't count? Dude ur argument is bs, and it's the same shit Tyson haters use all of the time. Nobody could 'press' a prime Tyson anyway and those who tried, got KTFO. Peter is a walking punching bag for Tyson. He's too slow, he wouldn't be able land anything and even if he did, 1 or 2 punches isn't gonna do the job. This is a mismatch in every sense of the word.

[Tuavale]

It's been so long since Tyson was good but he was so very special early on. He barely even got hit before he came into the Douglass fight out of shape. Tyson,circa 1986-1988, by early KO. Just too quick. Would have caught him clean and early and that would have been it.

[RonnieHornschuh]

well, tyson never ko'd someone with an iron chin, so peter could go the distance with him. it would be interesting if they start to trade, but i'd say it would be a comfortable decision for tyson.

[Tuavale]

well, tyson never ko'd someone with an iron chin, so peter could go the distance with him. it would be interesting if they start to trade, but i'd say it would be a comfortable decision for tyson.
Peter has a good chin but not iron. Klitschko had him dancing a jig and a clean hook or right hand by a prime Tyson would have been worse.

[brooklyn1550]

Peter has a good chin but not iron. Klitschko had him dancing a jig and a clean hook or right hand by a prime Tyson would have been worse.

He does have an iron chin because prior to that, he was taking flush shots for 11 rounds from the biggest puncher in the division.

[Irish Steel]

Peters chin is very good. He can stand up to wlad, the most powerful puncher right now. ANd I think Wlad hit harder than tyson. But Tyson threw better combos, and was much faster. SO probably KO8 for Tyson. Maybe Peter can get by a few more rounds for a UD.

[Orang-Utan Jim]

The only way I see Tyson winning by TKO is when he nails Peter on the ropes and the ref stops it. But Tyson wouldn´t have KO´ed Peter.
But I think a UD Tyson would be likely.

[CHEF]

I'd say quicker than that. Maybe 3.


:good
I agree. Tyson by KO within 3

[Ambition_Def]

This may surprise some of you but I'd give Peter a live shot at stopping Tyson.

Tyson had it easy as long as he wasn't getting hit back. Yes Ruddock fought him tooth and nail but Ruddock's chin isn't even close to what Sam is packing. I like both the Nigerians : Ibeabuchi and Peter to give Tyson some of his toughest fights.

Also the guys who Tyson KO'd were not known for having iron chins. Holmes himself in his prime had been down before as were others like Smith, Tubbs and Thomas. Tucker was known for having a decent chin and he extended Tyson. Really as a rule of thumb if a guy was known to take a great shot Tyson wasn't knocking him out. Tyson had great power, but not that kind of great.

Tyson on the other hand packed a good chin. Not poor, but not great. In 5 out of 6 defeats Mike Tyson was stopped. Yes I know I am using statistics past his prime but durabilty is the last thing to go.

Head to head I could see Tyson's style giving Sam problems at long range. But once inside Tyson would have to trade and make himself available. Peter doesn't do all that bad himself at short range and can find guys with that left hook. Tyson coming out of the uppercut is also vunerable to that left hook. But Tyson would only really do alot of damage over the first 3-4 rounds. We saw Peter eat punch after punch from Waldo, who is also a huge hitter, for a full 12 rounds. Eventually Tyson would fade and Sam would lilkely still be standing there.

Tyson was great against the big guys who presented a big target, who didn't have the best chins in the world. Against guys like Ibeabuchi, Peter, Tua, McCall, and other iron chins he would be in some trouble. That would likely stem from his style and his stamina.

[Executioner]

I don't see how Peter has a chance here. He has an iron chin because Klitchsko landed lots of clean, powerful shots on him but Wlad didn't open up a whole lot like Tyson would

[Fab2333]

Tyson is on another level, seriously.
It's not fair to Peter, to make this thread.. not at this point, and by the way.. Peter is still learning the craft, he might very well be looked upon in another perspective in a few years from now.
One thing is certain, if Klitschko would be on those shaky legs against a prime Mike, he would get obliterated immediately!:deal
great post

[mad_takamura]

Did Mike have enough pop to KO Peter? stinky knows the answer for sure...:patsch

[Mind Reader]

He could and would stop Peter.

[mad_takamura]

:deal
great post stinky has a penchant to make unfair threads.
some out-of-this world.:?

[madpup]

Anyone who thinks that Peter had some kind of chance is deluding themselves. Wlad was using Peter's head as a punching bag, Peter has no defence. Prime Tyson's offensive arsenal is far superior to Wlad's. Peter would suffer a beating and the ref would stop the fight within 3-4 rounds.

[Stinky gloves]

stinky has a penchant to make unfair threads.
some out-of-this world.:?

Unfair would be if I put Peter against PAC.

[mad_takamura]

Unfair would be if I put Peter against PAC. howbout mexico wins world cup although it's the phil who did it in 5-1? :rofl

[MachineGunMitch]

Tyson KO 3

[counter punc]

Peter is not Spinks.

I don't like betting on Tyson against anyone with an iron chin and that is not afraid of him.

Tyson by a UD, but I could see Peter knocking out Tyson late after he tired and most likely would give up. Tyson would not and could not knock out Peter. Period.


Tyson could knock out any heavy that got in the ring with him, a prime tyson had excellent stamina, was focused, and ferocious, peter has never fought anyone remotely resembling tyson in speed and power. Tyson was very good defensively in his prime, very hard to hit, and countered quickly, explosively, and very accurately with one punch ko power. This would be the first time peter would be hurt repeatedly and forced to fight backing up once he felt tysons power he would be on the defensive and he would certainly be the recipient of the most damage tyson was a much better boxer than peter in every dept including power, better defesively, and offensively, tyson wins this fight in my opinion by mid rd brutal ko.

[Stinky gloves]

howbout mexico wins world cup although it's the phil who did it in 5-1? :rofl

Yes, and Ponce De Leone destroyed best Filipino prospect, now time for Arce to destroy Donaire.

Pater KO PAC in 7 :hat ..... seconds :lol: