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China_hand_Joe
11-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Kessler stunned Ward a little, but Ward came straight back and had Kessler far more hurt.

Ward look like he may stop him within 3 rounds.

Strike
11-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Kessler is getting THRASHED. And I rated him, but he has done nothing and I'm not a big Ward fan. The kid is quick and good, but fuck....

Kessler looks awful.

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 10:51 PM
kessler needs to wake up, ref needs to stop the holding

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
5-0 easy ward
froch could have a big shout vs kessler

ed7890
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Better round for Kessler there in the end, Ward seemed a bit overeager for a while

ishy
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Ward looks the shizzle, Kessler has nothing. 5-0 Ward

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Kessler finally landed a good shot. Ward still winning this. Commentators are biased as fuck.

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
kessler took that i thought.

3-2 ward.

more solid work from kessler.

PrideOfWales
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
good fight

Carnage
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
5-0 Ward, better from Kessler though, but still Ward doing more than enough SO FAR!!!

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
better from kessler

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
streams gone?????

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 10:54 PM
Holding.

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 10:55 PM
windmills from ward

ed7890
11-21-2009, 10:55 PM
Ward is a bit wild but he's actually backin Kessler up a bit

PrideOfWales
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
kessler starting to look dispirited!!

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
ward's rd

4-2 ward.

ward's speed is the killer here. :bbb

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
ward may well be the fav for this tourny now

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Ward winning this. Suprised by Kessler.

ishy
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
6-0 Ward

Kessler isn't doing much, he looks shite.

Carnage
11-21-2009, 10:57 PM
6-0 Ward, if Ward keeps leaning in like that he might get caught but I think he has shocked Kessler!

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
kessler is so inaccurate

ed7890
11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
Kessler's still not comin alive, this fight is slipping out of reach

China_hand_Joe
11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
His right hand is paralysed or something.

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 10:58 PM
I have it 4-2 to Ward.

Kessler is slowly improving.

nip102
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
if kessler really didn't spar southpaws thats stupid

safe_pa
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Ward winning this. Suprised by Kessler.

:deal

ishy
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Antonio Tarver is a VERY good commentator.

SouthpawSlayer
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
i was hugely impressed when ward schooled miranda i expected this

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
hopefully this means froch vs kessler in the uk!!

rooq
11-21-2009, 10:59 PM
ref's pissing me off a bit. ward holds..."let him go mikkel, let him go..."

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:00 PM
kessler cant land a punch, ward all over him

PrideOfWales
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
MK looks awful

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
Kessler wild and disspirited.

Ward winning...................................and holding.

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
doubt it, he might get koed though

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
another rd in the bank for ward.

5-2 ward.

agreed on ward's holding. :yep

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:01 PM
7-0 Ward, bit of a shut out so far, never know what Kessler can do though, why do Ward's gloves look massive??

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
5-2 Ward.

I thought Kessler was getting into the fight, but he looked poor in that round again.

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
Great fight from Ward so far. Brilliant jab, great inside fighting and pickin off the cross whenever theres an opening

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
ref's pissing me off a bit. ward holds..."let him go mikkel, let him go..."


x2

Strike
11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
I don't like to overreact but this does not reflect well on Calzaghes career. Kessler has been EMBARRASSED.

Whipped.

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:03 PM
I sense a Kessler quittage

nulty
11-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Don't know if I'm impressed with Ward or dissapointed with Mikkel.

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:03 PM
this best not end before the 12th, ive got money on a ud

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:04 PM
kessler getting whooped

China_hand_Joe
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Kessler has zero chance now.

Ward is too good at holding to be stopped.

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Shit. I've called this one wrong BIG TIME!

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
badly placed cut

Unforgiven
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Kessler is shit.

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
8-0 Ward, big cut on Kessler, could be over soon, Kessler doesn't want it!

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
This is so good from Ward, he was even going toe to toe there for a while

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:05 PM
gonna get stopped because of that cut

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:06 PM
fuck tht cut is bad!!!

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 11:06 PM
getting tough for kessler.

6-2 ward.

paintjob. :patsch

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 11:06 PM
6-2 Ward

It's slipping away for MK.

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:07 PM
That cut is awful

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:07 PM
kessler will get stopped soon

Decy
11-21-2009, 11:07 PM
Ward looks like he could be special.

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:07 PM
kessler will get stopped soon

he best fucking not

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:08 PM
Ward looks like he could be special.

He really does

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:08 PM
Do you think there's some external factor contributing to Kessler's flat performance tonight or is it just that Ward is too good?

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
ward hurt a bit there? or am i clutching at straws

PrideOfWales
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Kessler needs just to throw fucking bombs now but seems content to throw single jabs!

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
9-0 Ward, Kessler going to be pulled out??

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
closer rd.

i'm giving it to kessler.

ward holding on too much.

6-3 ward.

this cut is a big worry. :!:

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
I don't think the ref has warned Ward once for holding.

nulty
11-21-2009, 11:09 PM
What the fuck is the ref doing in the corner?

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
ward hurt a bit there? or am i clutching at straws

hurts the wrong word.

a bit bothered. :yep

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
ward hurt a bit there? or am i clutching at straws

He looked sloppy in the round anyway

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Do you think there's some external factor contributing to Kessler's flat performance tonight or is it just that Ward is too good?

being son of god is probably an unfair advantage.

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Ref has been shit

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:11 PM
being son of god is probably an unfair advantage.

:lol:

safe_pa
11-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Nasty headbutt! Kessler is getting worked over, Tarver is a good commentator.

Decy
11-21-2009, 11:12 PM
What the fuck is the ref doing in the corner?


FFS the ref telling Kessler to break when told.

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Jesus looks great

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:12 PM
Ward is actually lookin bad in this round, he's keepin his head there for Kessler to hit

SouthpawSlayer
11-21-2009, 11:12 PM
calzaghes best win is no longer his best win

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:14 PM
A few shady tactics but Ward has done a great job so far. Kessler is all but done.

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 11:14 PM
How much holding from Ward?? Total joke.

Kessler needs to go for broke here.

hitman_hatton1
11-21-2009, 11:14 PM
another ward rd.

hope the cut don't halt this.

7-3 ward.

kessler needs something big.

froch-taylor stylee big. :roll:

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:14 PM
10-0 Ward, may be stopped soon, if not Kessler needs something special, some good trading there though.

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:15 PM
ward - abraham final then?

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:15 PM
this ref is cunt, trying to stop the fight

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
has the ref warned once about wards holding?

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
Dirrell should ask Ward how to use a speed advantage

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
Shit.

Strike
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
another ward rd.

hope the cut don't halt this.

7-3 ward.

kessler needs something big.

froch-taylor stylee big. :roll:

Fuck me you're generous.

safe_pa
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
Ward is good but he should probably wear a glove on his head.

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
judges?
that was caused by heads?

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:16 PM
They've stopped it!!! Going to the cards?

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
fuck its over. tko by headbutt

PrideOfWales
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
Damn, that was impressive.

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
I think the refs saying its going to the scorecards, not a TKO

Chatterer
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
10-0 then stopped, wasnt as bad as Cotto, cut-wise but hey......thats boxing.

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:18 PM
Great performance from Ward but the ref should have pulled him up more on the holding and leading with the head.

jimcox88
11-21-2009, 11:18 PM
yessa monies!!!

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:18 PM
oh..scorecards. i take it technical decision does not count as stoppage for the points system

TFFP
11-21-2009, 11:18 PM
Well that was very sad to watch.

Ward was just too talented and too good.

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Ya so this will just be 2 points right?

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:19 PM
how many times will ward mention Jesus or The Lord in the postfight interview? I think.....6

Strike
11-21-2009, 11:19 PM
THRASHED.

Kessler was absolutely battered. Destroyed. Like I said, I don't want to overreact about one fight, but it does put something negative on Calzaghe. Kessler was owned totally, far,far more than he was against Calzaghe.

When you look through the big fights of Joes career.....

Doesn't look good now.

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:20 PM
outclassed

46and0
11-21-2009, 11:20 PM
Kessler looked awful the whole fight. He didn't even look in great shape. Ward was outstanding.

ishy
11-21-2009, 11:21 PM
Word of the warning: "Exposed" threads have already been posted on the general.

Scorecards:
97-93
98-92 x2

Ward (obviously)

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 11:21 PM
Gutted.

I can't believe how bad MK was made to look in that fight.

The ref was a fucking farce aswell.

Pug1list
11-21-2009, 11:21 PM
technical dec 97-93 98-92 x 2 ward

SouthpawSlayer
11-21-2009, 11:22 PM
there will be a few calzaghe threads on here tomorrow i reckon, good night fellas

TFFP
11-21-2009, 11:22 PM
Ward only getting 2 points was just about the only thing that went right for Kessler tonight. He still has a chance of progressing now but that was a terrible loss.

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:23 PM
the Godometer was up to 5 there

Jaiston
11-21-2009, 11:23 PM
How many times does he want to mention god ffs?

1stcontact
11-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Froch is probably training himself to throw that lead headbutt now

Ilesey
11-21-2009, 11:24 PM
I don't place much emphasis on discrediting Calzaghe after tonight, none at all.

Also, I'm not suprised Kessler was cut as Ward was charging in all night to hold.

Well done to Ward, but I feel bad for Kessler.

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Amazing victory, didnt think he had that in him

Decy
11-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Fair play to Ward he looked great & it will take some fighter to beat him.I would hate to see Ward v Dirrell though they would spend so long holding on to each other they will end up kissing

nulty
11-21-2009, 11:26 PM
Andre thanked God in his post fight interview? Why didn't he just say thanks dad?

rooq
11-21-2009, 11:26 PM
Froch is probably training himself to throw that lead headbutt now

if its anything like his uppercut, he'll have to launch himself headfirst from the other side of the ring

China_hand_Joe
11-21-2009, 11:27 PM
Kessler will win the rematch.

threethirteen
11-21-2009, 11:27 PM
As well as Ward boxed, the referee was dreadful. The constant holding and leading with the head was shameful. How Ward wasn't docked a point in the 8th I'll never know - it was that flagrant.

Ward moved well and mixed it up, he deserved the win, but that was painfully biased.

Carnage
11-21-2009, 11:30 PM
Get the feelin Kessler's not happy.

nip102
11-21-2009, 11:32 PM
the only thing that right for kessler was ward only got 2pts.Ward outclassed him with or without headbutts and holding

foreverleeds
11-21-2009, 11:32 PM
As well as Ward boxed, the referee was dreadful. The constant holding and leading with the head was shameful. How Ward wasn't docked a point in the 8th I'll never know - it was that flagrant.

Ward moved well and mixed it up, he deserved the win, but that was painfully biased.


Totally agree.

Ward looked excellent for the most part, but the ref didnt warn Ward once for holding or the use of the head.

Just think, if that fight had been in Denmark, the outcome could have been completely different had the ref done his job right.

Fair play to Ward though, he used those advantages and made Kessler look very bad.

TFFP
11-21-2009, 11:35 PM
I pretty much agree with Showtime's analyst. The headbutts hastened the decline for Kessler and made things much worse but it wasn't a deciding factor. Mikkel struggled to get to grips with Ward from the first round and wasn't really coming up with answers.

Didn't think the holding was that bad.

ed7890
11-21-2009, 11:41 PM
I dont think the holdin was that bad

China_hand_Joe
11-21-2009, 11:43 PM
The holding was just skillful.

However Kessler will learn how to deal with this and also avoid being drugged before the final.

Mr. V.I.P.
11-21-2009, 11:47 PM
What I tell you? All along. Ward would be too much for kessler and would dance on him all night long. His footwork won that fight.

TheUzi
11-22-2009, 12:06 AM
Ward was holding,no problem with that but I didn't like the way he was hitting on the break. Think that was Mikkels main gripe.

The ref came up to him late on in the fight and had to tell he should fight out till he said 'stop'

Great performance.

kosaros
11-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Spoilers:

























Maidana won by KO
Mayol TKO2 Sosa
Sonsona currently fighting

kosaros
11-22-2009, 12:28 AM
Update:

Sonsona fight was a draw - apparently it was a great fight.
Maidana won by KO in the 3rd round.

TFFP
11-22-2009, 12:30 AM
Mayol TKO2. That's a bit of a shocker.

kosaros
11-22-2009, 12:40 AM
Mayol TKO2. That's a bit of a shocker.

Yep, apparently he was headbutted just before the stoppage - ala Holt vs Torres II

Olu G. Rotimi
11-22-2009, 12:48 AM
Not really surprised I must say. Ward is a fundamentally good skilled fighter. Fight was not that difficult for him at all which exposes the true level of Kessler. Kessler was not off rather Ward is that good. I said at the start of the series don't be surprised if 2 Americans named Andre are in the final. I thought Dirrel deserved the decision against Froch.

kosaros
11-22-2009, 12:50 AM
Olu, sorry to go off-topic, but is there any update on Ajose? I haven't heard anything after the fight fell through, other than a proposed tournament that might take place.

LHL
11-22-2009, 01:07 AM
How did the fight go fellas i just got in :-(

Couldn't be arsed reading + is the fight worth downloading?

TFFP
11-22-2009, 01:09 AM
If you wanna see a great boxing display from Ward its worth watching, or if you want to see Kessler beat up and cut/swollen real bad. Otherwise look away.

LHL
11-22-2009, 01:14 AM
I'll look away. Did Ward just have Kessler's number? I red something about head butts how bad were they mate? Really wish i had stayed into night :verysad

TFFP
11-22-2009, 01:23 AM
Well the headbutts were bad headbutts, obviously, enough to cut Kessler's eye lid and then swell completely over after about 4 or 5 rounds. I think the main butt that did the damage was in round 2 but it took a few rounds to become a major hindarance. Later on there was another that opened a smaller cut. There were a few inbetween also.

As for whether they are intentional, wouldn't like to say. Slowing replays down isn't really a fair way of looking at it, in real speed its different. Ward did lean in and appear to push his head in but only he knows for sure. The styles also made for it as Kessler was coming forward and Ward lept in with hooks.

Ya Ward had his number. He won the first 4 when the eye wasn't a problem, and Kessler showed no signs of changing things really.

JonOli
11-22-2009, 01:34 AM
Ward was holding,no problem with that but I didn't like the way he was hitting on the break. Think that was Mikkels main gripe.

The ref came up to him late on in the fight and had to tell he should fight out till he said 'stop'

Great performance.


If the fight had been a lot closer, I think an issue could have been made of that. There was perhaps a bit of underhandedness going on there... perhaps dirty tactics.

Having said that, I'm not sure how much of it was Kessler's inability to fight on the inside or out of a clinch.

It didn't affect the overall outcome of the fight though.

TFFP
11-22-2009, 01:39 AM
About the only good thing for Kessler tonight is he got out of there with Ward only getting points for a decision. It means he's still in this thing if he recovers mentally and the injuries. That was literally the only positive thing, there wasn't much else to take from it. It's not like he could say the jab was effective, or something else was effective, nothing worked offensively and he got hit a lot.

Well, that and he fought on in difficult circumstances and showed good toughness.

LHL
11-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Well the headbutts were bad headbutts, obviously, enough to cut Kessler's eye lid and then swell completely over after about 4 or 5 rounds. I think the main butt that did the damage was in round 2 but it took a few rounds to become a major hindarance. Later on there was another that opened a smaller cut. There were a few inbetween also.

As for whether they are intentional, wouldn't like to say. Slowing replays down isn't really a fair way of looking at it, in real speed its different. Ward did lean in and appear to push his head in but only he knows for sure. The styles also made for it as Kessler was coming forward and Ward lept in with hooks.

Ya Ward had his number. He won the first 4 when the eye wasn't a problem, and Kessler showed no signs of changing things really.

Thanks TFFP. Shame Kessler didn't take ward out, out of Kessler, Froch & Abraham, Kessler was my favorite to take Ward out. Dirrel might be able to do it but i doubt the other two can.

KERRZO
11-22-2009, 02:09 AM
Froch v Kessler will be a a total war now. Froch could lirerally end Kessler's career if he puts up the fight of his life!!!

Olu G. Rotimi
11-22-2009, 03:05 AM
Olu, sorry to go off-topic, but is there any update on Ajose? I haven't heard anything after the fight fell through, other than a proposed tournament that might take place.

We are trying to get the final title eliminator against Dan Ion rescheduled as the winner is the mandatory and guaranteed a shot against Alexander. Once done will let you know. Would never have given up the British albeit reluctantlyb had we known the Romanian's would pull this shit. Very frustrating.

GazOC
11-22-2009, 07:23 AM
Fucking fell asleep 10 mins before the start. I take it Ward isn't 10/1 to win the Super 6 any more?

'Ben'
11-22-2009, 07:38 AM
Fucking fell asleep 10 mins before the start. I take it Ward isn't 10/1 to win the Super 6 any more?


I should went to the bookies.:patsch

China_hand_Joe
11-22-2009, 07:45 AM
I always feared Ward might be this good and had to make up bullshit to convince myself Kessler would win.

Bar one knockdown his record later Amateur and Pro is flawless.

And his ability to hold is awe inspiring - helped by the referee who kept accusing Kessler of the holding though.


The Yanks are still giving Dirrell as chance against Ward, do that not realise how bad Froch is?






Kessler will bounce back and win the tournament though, the people doubting him now will look foolish when he wins the tournament! Even with his trainer he can adapt with the time he has.

threethirteen
11-22-2009, 08:47 AM
i think Ward has to be joint favourite against Abraham now. He was the right mix of offence and defence - but he looked crap as a southpaw. He was so effective in the orthodox stance, why bother changing it.

Can't see him losing to anyone else in the tournament, except for Abraham or Dirrell. And I think he has the footwork to offset Dirrell's amateur rushes, and he's a lot more effective on the inside.

Primadonna Kool
11-22-2009, 09:30 AM
No i'm not staying up.

And i have never seen Andre Ward fight before, but i'm gonna pick him to win by 8 round TKO....and ive never seen him fight.

I watched a shitty video of the weigh in earlier on today, and for some reason.....i just feel like Andre Ward will win by 8 round tko.

Well he won anyway..

Might watch his next fight..

Against Jermaine Taylor..?

nulty
11-22-2009, 10:04 AM
Well he won anyway..

Might watch his next fight..

Against Jermaine Taylor..?

If Taylor carries on that is. What a weird situation Jermaine despite his recent record will be in a world title fight next time out if he does continue.

threethirteen
11-22-2009, 11:09 AM
Taylor's a little more versatile than Kessler, perhaps he can give Ward problems early.

Strike
11-22-2009, 06:28 PM
Kessler was outclassed. It was a whipping. Yeah the head went in, but from round 1 he looked clueless, he never got into a rhythm, he ate shots, was countered, slipped and made to look sluggish and predictable.

He didn't even step up his output and go all out, he was taken apart. How the fuck one judge had it by 4 rounds is beyond me. I think I had him winning one round.

China_hand_Joe
11-23-2009, 08:48 AM
Watch the fight without volume.

Kessler will bounce back and destroy Ward later in the tournament, no doubt about it.