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Rise Above
11-22-2009, 02:36 AM
I havent seen the whole fight only highlights but from what I have seen I thought Walcott should have gotten the decision.

What do you guys think ?
Cachibatches
11-22-2009, 02:39 AM
I havent seen the whole fight only highlights but from what I have seen I thought Walcott should have gotten the decision.

What do you guys think ?
From what I have heard, Louis actually apologized to Walcott after the decision was read.
McGrain
11-22-2009, 03:10 AM
From what I have heard, Louis actually apologized to Walcott after the decision was read.


Louis's apology was supposedly more about his performance than the decision.

My opinion is this; none of us have seen the fight.

Two thirds of ringside reporters scored it for Walcott, one third for Louis.

Two thirds of the judges scored it for Louis, one third for Walcott.

Working from the highlights I have, I don't see any serious advantage for either man under the scoring system of the time.

Not enough to toss out the decision. It stands.
hit me HARDER
11-22-2009, 03:40 AM
Theo has alot of pace, but his punch-resistance is questionable.
My2Sense
11-22-2009, 05:45 AM
Working from the highlights I have, I don't see any serious advantage for either man under the scoring system of the time.



Agreed.

Walcott obviously won the two rounds with knockdowns, but everything else looks like it could be scored 0-0. Walcott is backing away and showboating, while Louis presses and often misses. Walcott did well in making Louis look bad (which possibly played a role in convincing many people that he won), but he doesn't look to me like he's doing enough actual scoring of his own to actually deserve the win.
My2Sense
11-22-2009, 05:46 AM
Theo has alot of pace, but his punch-resistance is questionable.

:huh
Flea Man
11-22-2009, 05:52 AM
:huh

Theo Walcott, a footballer. Think he was pissed last night judging by his posts on the British forum :lol:
GPater11093
11-23-2009, 03:20 PM
i was reading an article on thsi fight today thought id share it

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McGrain
11-23-2009, 03:23 PM
i was reading an article on thsi fight today thought id share it

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I always felt that the finishing combo Louis dropped on Walcott was overated. He didn't really turn those punches over and you can see the torque he was generating with his hips was slightly behind the punches themselves in the film. But if the Bomber himself rated it as his best maybe I should try to re-appraise it.
Unforgiven
11-23-2009, 03:32 PM
The finishing combo Joe Louis put on Walcott in the rematch I liken to Dempsey's combo that decked Tunney.
Both great fighters a long way past their primes showing a brief and deadly flash of their former greatness.
GPater11093
11-23-2009, 03:46 PM
I always felt that the finishing combo Louis dropped on Walcott was overated. He didn't really turn those punches over and you can see the torque he was generating with his hips was slightly behind the punches themselves in the film. But if the Bomber himself rated it as his best maybe I should try to re-appraise it.

my favroutie is teh Conn one, but maybe Joe liked it better as he needed it abit and it was more satisfying
McGrain
11-23-2009, 03:52 PM
The finishing combo Joe Louis put on Walcott in the rematch I liken to Dempsey's combo that decked Tunney.
Both great fighters a long way past their primes showing a brief and deadly flash of their former greatness.

It's got to be said though, Dempsey's were technically perfect, Louis's were not.

my favroutie is teh Conn one, but maybe Joe liked it better as he needed it abit and it was more satisfying

Epic KO. I like Mann. That left hook is fucking horrible.
Unforgiven
11-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Louis only said the combo was "one of his best"

There are far too many to mention. Joe Louis in the 1930s and early 40s was awesome.
GPater11093
11-23-2009, 04:06 PM
It's got to be said though, Dempsey's were technically perfect, Louis's were not.



Epic KO. I like Mann. That left hook is fucking horrible.

alot of Louis's KOs are amazing to watch my favrouite LOis combo is the triple left hook on Max Baer but there is something awe inspiring about watching the black and white footage of Joe Louis. Something hauntingly beautiful.
McGrain
11-23-2009, 04:13 PM
He's the daddy. So many of his Ko's would be the #1 highlihgt reel for other celebrated punchers, but for Louis, it's just another day at the office.
GPater11093
11-23-2009, 04:24 PM
yeh your right

i remember when i first got into boxing i got some Louis fights on DVD and i spent ages glued tot he TV watching Louis over and over again loved it

just enchanting, i could lose hours watching him do his thing
TheGreatA
11-23-2009, 04:33 PM
I feel Walcott had the better of it based on what I've seen but I can understand the decision. Louis did handle business in the rematch although I felt Walcott had been pressured to fight a different fight which ended up with him knocked out. The era did not favour stylists in the mold of Jersey Joe Walcott.

Louis has one of the best KO highlight reels ever. One of his best knockouts was supposedly over Uzcudun, and I have the film, but for whatever reason it cuts right when Louis is about to land the punch, and then shows Uzcudun laying on the canvas, struggling to get up.
McGrain
11-23-2009, 04:38 PM
One of his best knockouts was supposedly over Uzcudun, and I have the film, but for whatever reason it cuts right when Louis is about to land the punch, and then shows Uzcudun laying on the canvas, struggling to get up.

Why have you not uploaded this you naughty boy?
TheGreatA
11-23-2009, 04:40 PM
Why have you not uploaded this you naughty boy?

The quality is quite terrible but I can upload it right now.
McGrain
11-23-2009, 04:41 PM
Huzzah! Thank you sir.
GPater11093
11-23-2009, 04:50 PM
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brillaitn article discussing Louis's punching technique then some of his best KO's
Unforgiven
11-23-2009, 04:52 PM
The Uzcudun KO punch shocked many of the ringside reporters, some said it was the hardest punch ever delivered. Some were sure Uzcudun was killed when it landed.
JIm Broughton
11-24-2009, 05:26 PM
The more I watch old footage of Louis the more I'm convinced that he was the best HW champ of all time and that includes Ali. Ali once said that Joe was too robotic and slow to compete against him but that simply isn't true. Joe was the epitome of economy of motion or rather, no wasted motion. Cool and calculating backed by speed of fist and devestating power and precision. One mistake and it's over. Incredible.
TheGreatA
11-24-2009, 06:12 PM
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Rise Above
11-24-2009, 10:12 PM
The more I watch old footage of Louis the more I'm convinced that he was the best HW champ of all time and that includes Ali. Ali once said that Joe was too robotic and slow to compete against him but that simply isn't true. Joe was the epitome of economy of motion or rather, no wasted motion. Cool and calculating backed by speed of fist and devestating power and precision. One mistake and it's over. Incredible.

I totally agree. I've always been of the thought that Louis is the best heavyweight of all time.
Bummy Davis
11-24-2009, 10:24 PM
I think Walcott won the first fight but it was close. Louis was the best ever though and JJW made a cocky mistake in fight 2 and walked into a 6piece. Joe Louis was the BESt ever and that includes Ali