Ali Funeka v Joan Guzman

[ishy]

How does the Brit forum see this going this weekend?

[Bugsy McAlpine]

How does the Brit forum see this going this weekend?

Guzman UD. Not exactly putting my neck on the line though, considering Guzman is the favourite and has went the distance in his last 8 fights.:lol:

[TFFP]

I'll tell you who will win later.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hopefully Guzman gets KTFO.

Yup, all logic & reasoning go out of the window when I see the name Joan Guzman.
Hes been haunting my big fat scottish ass for years, he was supposed to fight Harrison about 10 times & it always fell through. I had tickets for the bloody fight, & it cost me a small fortune just to get my ticket money back!
Then he was supposed to fight Arthur. Fell through again.

& all the while, I have had thicko Guzman lovers telling me how he would have destroyed Scotty & Alex on the same night, despite the fact that Guzman CANT BLOODY PUNCH:twisted:
I been waiting a long time to see this hypejob Guzman get his, man I HATE Joan Guzman!
As the Mcallan once said, hes even got a girls name!

Fuck Joan Guzman, & all who sail in him. Rant well & truly over.

[Bugsy McAlpine]

Hopefully Guzman gets KTFO.

Yup, all logic & reasoning go out of the window when I see the name Joan Guzman.
Hes been haunting my big fat scottish ass for years, he was supposed to fight Harrison about 10 times & it always fell through. I had tickets for the bloody fight, & it cost me a small fortune just to get my ticket money back!
Then he was supposed to fight Arthur. Fell through again.

& all the while, I have had thicko Guzman lovers telling me how he would have destroyed Scotty & Alex on the same night, despite the fact that Guzman CANT BLOODY PUNCH:twisted:
I been waiting a long time to see this hypejob Guzman get his, man I HATE Joan Guzman!
As the Mcallan once said, hes even got a girls name!

Fuck Joan Guzman, & all who sail in him. Rant well & truly over.

Aye, but what i want to know is do you like or dislike Joan Guzman?

[Dunky McCafferty]

Aye, but what i want to know is do you like or dislike Joan Guzman?

I like the woman who let Ricky Hatton tattoo her inside thigh live on TV more than I like Joan Guzman bugs, thats just the way it is!

[LHL]

Aye, but what i want to know is do you like or dislike Joan Guzman?

I'd say dislike after fucking Arthur around for a year or two

[Bugsy McAlpine]

I like the woman who let Ricky Hatton tattoo her inside thigh live on TV more than I like Joan Guzman bugs, thats just the way it is!

:lol:

[Bugsy McAlpine]

I'd say dislike after fucking Arthur around for a year or two

I'm not a fan of Guzman either. He's a very smug little man.:mad:

[Dunky McCafferty]

I'm not a fan of Guzman either. He's a very smug little man.:mad:

hes a big headed cunt. Literally.

[faisal]

I think guzmans getting KO'd in this 1, he's been out of the ring for too long, and i think his at the age of 33 i doubt he'll be in the same condition as he was against soto
Hopefully Guzman gets KTFO.

Yup, all logic & reasoning go out of the window when I see the name Joan Guzman.
Hes been haunting my big fat scottish ass for years, he was supposed to fight Harrison about 10 times & it always fell through. I had tickets for the bloody fight, & it cost me a small fortune just to get my ticket money back!
Then he was supposed to fight Arthur. Fell through again.

& all the while, I have had thicko Guzman lovers telling me how he would have destroyed Scotty & Alex on the same night, despite the fact that Guzman CANT BLOODY PUNCH:twisted:
I been waiting a long time to see this hypejob Guzman get his, man I HATE Joan Guzman!
As the Mcallan once said, hes even got a girls name!

Fuck Joan Guzman, & all who sail in him. Rant well & truly over.
LOL dunky,
arthur would most likely have gotten KO'd by the feather fisted dominican were talking about the same lad that got put on his arse by the likes of steve foster Jr and was hurt numerous times by nicky cook FFS u should know better dunks arthur was struggling at 130 and fighting a world class operator at that weight would have not helped matters
as for harrison well i'm sure the fight would have been a bit more competitive then the former but in all likelihood i think guzman would have won a wide decision and schooled harrison over 12 rounds, i'v got no quarrel with the scots btw so no hard feelings

[Grant1]

Guzman decision.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I think guzmans getting KO'd in this 1, he's been out of the ring for too long, and i think his at the age of 33 i doubt he'll be in the same condition as he was against soto

LOL dunky,
arthur would most likely have gotten KO'd by the feather fisted dominican were talking about the same lad that got put on his arse by the likes of steve foster Jr and was hurt numerous times by nicky cook FFS u should know better dunks arthur was struggling at 130 and fighting a world class operator at that weight would have not helped matters
as for harrison well i'm sure the fight would have been a bit more competitive then the former but in all likelihood i think guzman would have won a wide decision and schooled harrison over 12 rounds, i'v got no quarrel with the scots btw so no hard feelings

And bang on schedule, heres one of those Guzman nuthugging fuckers I reffered to earlier on this thread!!!

See what I mean folks? Characters like Faisal have been haunting my big scottish ass here for years with this 'Guzman would kill Arthur & stand Harrison on his head at the same time, cos hes GUZMAN'

AAARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No hard feelings Faisal? FUCK YOU! I hope this hypejob Guzman gets destroyed, sooner than later.
Its nothing personal Faisal, Im just sick of Guzmans goons!!!

What the fuck did Guzman do to deserve the sickening hype he gets anyway, cos Im still scratching my big scottish head trying to work out why a guy who only ever won a WBO belt gets talked up on this forum like hes a god:huh
I been asking the same questions on this forum for years though & still havent got an answer, so I wont hold my breath.

[cubex]

I''ll watch some recent fights of both men to make a sure pick but I'dlean towarsd Guzman by decision.

He's never fough tsomebody like Funeka so it will be interesting to see.

[Flea Man]

Oh, quality this has come round :happy

Gonna be a really, REALLY interesting fight. I'm gonna' go for Guzman to finally show himself up, Funeka will not have to worry about Guzmans pitter-patter punches, Guzmans brilliant movement will keep him in there, Funeka UD.

[Lee Mc]

One day his inactivity and bad between fights habits are going to catch up with Guzman.

I have a sneeky feeling that that day is this fight.

[bennie]

Dominican bad boy Joan Guzman takes on Ali Funeka in Canada this Saturday for the vacant IBF lightweight title.
Guzman gets a shot despite the stigma of his aborted showdown with Florida's Nate Campbell last year in America. The unbeaten, usually fearless Guzman tried to scupper the fight by coming in overweight. Campbell agreed to fight him at catchweight. Guzman also agreed but then pulled a few hours before the fight, claiming he felt unwell.
Campbell lost out on a $300,000 payday.
Known as "Lil' Tyson", Guzman certainly acted like the boorish former heavyweight champ (in fairness to Tyson he usually turned up on the night) and was three-and-a-half pounds over on the scales. Guzman can fight - but does he want to fight? This is a man who has failed to stop his last eight opponents, who hasn't fought since last December and who has held WBO titles at super-bantamweight and super-featherweight.
There is no way in the world he should fail to make lightweight.
Anyway, the 33-year-old Guzman has a chance to make amends for all that against Funeka, who did have the bottle to take on Campbell earlier this year in Campbell's native Florida, where he held him to a majority 12-round decision. It broke a hot 16-fight winning streak (14 early) for the 31-year-old South African puncher, who would have won but for a couple of knockdowns he suffered, one in the second round, the other in the 11th. (Ironically, and it does seem to be contagious, Campbell came in overweight but at least he climbed into the ring.)
"Rush Hour" Funeka has lost only to Mzonke Fana and Campbell in 34 outings and crushed good American Zahir Raheem in four rounds last year. With 25 early wins he is obviously a threat to the flaky Guzman but, despite the latter, the durable, slick-boxing Guzman is probably the pick.

[D-MAC]

I'll go with Guzman for the UD in this fight.

BTW Guzman would have schooled AA and SH on the same night......with one hand tied behind his back.........and his feet cemented to the ring canvas:smooch

[afonso_alves]

where do you watch all these 'non hyped mainstream' international fights. can never find em on youtube :huh

[faisal]

And bang on schedule, heres one of those Guzman nuthugging fuckers I reffered to earlier on this thread!!!

See what I mean folks? Characters like Faisal have been haunting my big scottish ass here for years with this 'Guzman would kill Arthur & stand Harrison on his head at the same time, cos hes GUZMAN'

AAARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No hard feelings Faisal? FUCK YOU! I hope this hypejob Guzman gets destroyed, sooner than later.
Its nothing personal Faisal, Im just sick of Guzmans goons!!!

What the fuck did Guzman do to deserve the sickening hype he gets anyway, cos Im still scratching my big scottish head trying to work out why a guy who only ever won a WBO belt gets talked up on this forum like hes a god:huh
I been asking the same questions on this forum for years though & still havent got an answer, so I wont hold my breath.
he beat world class fighters unlike arthur and harrison, he put on a boxing clinic against soto, the mans been avoided for years no 1 wants a part of him, he'd be in more big fights if ppl had the balls to face up to him and hes had personal troubles outside the ring the stoped him from fulfilling his potential and i'm backing Funeka to beat him due to inactivity

[themacallan]

Hopefully Guzman gets KTFO.

Yup, all logic & reasoning go out of the window when I see the name Joan Guzman.
Hes been haunting my big fat scottish ass for years, he was supposed to fight Harrison about 10 times & it always fell through. I had tickets for the bloody fight, & it cost me a small fortune just to get my ticket money back!
Then he was supposed to fight Arthur. Fell through again.

& all the while, I have had thicko Guzman lovers telling me how he would have destroyed Scotty & Alex on the same night, despite the fact that Guzman CANT BLOODY PUNCH:twisted:
I been waiting a long time to see this hypejob Guzman get his, man I HATE Joan Guzman!
As the Mcallan once said, hes even got a girls name!

Fuck Joan Guzman, & all who sail in him. Rant well & truly over.<---- you fucking tell 'em dunky.

Guzman is a cock gobbler

[themacallan]

he beat world class fighters unlike arthur and harrison, he put on a boxing clinic against soto, the mans been avoided for years no 1 wants a part of him, he'd be in more big fights if ppl had the balls to face up to him and hes had personal troubles outside the ring the stoped him from fulfilling his potential and i'm backing Funeka to beat him due to inactivityabsolute pish. cunt couldn't fight sleep.

He's done nothing since moving up.

[SteelTownCobra]

<---- you fucking tell 'em dunky.

Guzman is a cock gobbler
He may well be a cock gobbler but he is an elite level fighter with considerable natural ability.

Funeka will be a toguh test that hopefully he will pass. Then, hopefully, he continues to progress to bigger fights with some bigger names.

[Top Dog]

Guzman points, bit of a wasted talent though really

[Lee Mc]

where do you watch all these 'non hyped mainstream' international fights. can never find em on youtube :huh

Youtube or round at my mates, just in case!

[Lee Mc]

Guzman points, bit of a wasted talent though really


:deal

Could have been a serious challenger for P4P best IF he had been more dedicated.

[ollyc]

he beat world class fighters unlike arthur and harrison, he put on a boxing clinic against soto, the mans been avoided for years no 1 wants a part of him, he'd be in more big fights if ppl had the balls to face up to him and hes had personal troubles outside the ring the stoped him from fulfilling his potential and i'm backing Funeka to beat him due to inactivity

Yeah, it's a real shame that he's never had the opportunity to fight for the unified WBA/IBF/WBO Lightweight title. Oh wait ...

[cubex]

What do we know bout Funeka?

-high workrate
-shaky whiskers
-good punching power
-leaky defense
-doesn't have a stiff jab
-doesn't have superior handspeed9compared to Guzman)

Anything else?

[Mazallan]

I hope Guzman turns up. Should be a good fight.

[illpapi]

And bang on schedule, heres one of those Guzman nuthugging fuckers I reffered to earlier on this thread!!!

See what I mean folks? Characters like Faisal have been haunting my big scottish ass here for years with this 'Guzman would kill Arthur & stand Harrison on his head at the same time, cos hes GUZMAN'

AAARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No hard feelings Faisal? FUCK YOU! I hope this hypejob Guzman gets destroyed, sooner than later.
Its nothing personal Faisal, Im just sick of Guzmans goons!!!

What the fuck did Guzman do to deserve the sickening hype he gets anyway, cos Im still scratching my big scottish head trying to work out why a guy who only ever won a WBO belt gets talked up on this forum like hes a god:huh
I been asking the same questions on this forum for years though & still havent got an answer, so I wont hold my breath.

Well, for one thing he was actually a champion in two different divisions so you're actually wrong with your info.
But I must say I don't blame you for feeling the way you do because Guzman has been very irresponsible with his career to say the least. I'm actually one of those people who is still wondering whether he'll make wait this weekend and won't believe he is fighting until I see him in the ring.

[robpalmer135]

big fan of guzman. hope to see him vs katsidis, valero and marqez

[China_hand_Joe]

Guzman is probaby more naturally gifted than anyone from the last decase besides Calzaghe, Jones Jr and Tszyu.

His time has probably passed by now though.

No it hasn't! You can do this Joan!

[Axl_Nose]

Hopefully Guzman gets KTFO.

Yup, all logic & reasoning go out of the window when I see the name Joan Guzman.
Hes been haunting my big fat scottish ass for years, he was supposed to fight Harrison about 10 times & it always fell through. I had tickets for the bloody fight, & it cost me a small fortune just to get my ticket money back!
Then he was supposed to fight Arthur. Fell through again.

& all the while, I have had thicko Guzman lovers telling me how he would have destroyed Scotty & Alex on the same night, despite the fact that Guzman CANT BLOODY PUNCH:twisted:
I been waiting a long time to see this hypejob Guzman get his, man I HATE Joan Guzman!
As the Mcallan once said, hes even got a girls name!

Fuck Joan Guzman, & all who sail in him. Rant well & truly over.

Dunky your still spouting utter shite .... Scott Harrison was lucky Guzman didnt get in there with him, he would have schooled him. Harrison has to be the most ridiculous excuse for a world champion there has ever been, oh man i still remember that fight he had with Victor Polo, he totally struggled with Polo and then Marquez fought Polo and won every round, what a bum Harrison was , yet another British hypejob ..

As for Alex 'zero talent' Arthur, i can still envisage him being beaten to a pulp by Gomez, and it was the same shot over and over again, cant remember if it was the left hook or right hook but it was an embarrassment. He was knocked down and then he smiled at the camera like he was the man, what a dickhead Alex Artur is .. And then he gets beat by the limited Nicky Cook and blames weight problems, Arthur is a chump, like so many he talks a great fight but when it comes time to deliver he fails miserably .... Alex Arthur was touted for years as the next big thing in British Boxing but he ended up like Harrison, exposed as a totally limited idiot of a fighter who had nothing .. Harrison and his WBO belt, reminded me of Calzaghe with his WBO strap, taking the easy defences that the WBO road dishes up for 'domestic' fighters .... Harrison was lucky he never entered the ring with Marquez or Guzman, they would have absolutely destroyed him, as for Arthur v Guzman, i still laugh at the idea of that mismatch .......... Arthur and Harrison against anybody of any class is an absolute joke, so Dunky stop talking your ridiculous patriotic Scottish shit, Buchanan was a great fighter, Watt was a decent fighter but since these 2 guys, all you've had are bums with big mouths and zero talent .........:deal

[Axl_Nose]

Guzman is probaby more naturally gifted than anyone from the last decase besides Calzaghe, Jones Jr and Tszyu.

His time has probably passed by now though.

No it hasn't! You can do this Joan!

Guzman is naturally talented, but i'd substitute Mayweather for Calzaghe .. Calzaghe was a hard working fighter with unbelievable stamina and a weak resume, he wasnt 'naturally talented', Tzsyu was a hard working fighter too who honed his incredible skills, but again he wasnt a 'naturally gifted' fighter ....

Naturally gifted fighters are guys like Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, Naseem Hamed, Pernell Whitaker .... etc

There is a Fluidity in the movement of 'Naturally Gifted' fighters that ordinary fighters dont have .... You would never say Hagler, Monzon, Pacquiao were 'naturally gifted' boxers, but they all worked hard, sharpened their skills and became great fighters, but with these guys its all about working to a rhythm and being able to take a shot to give a shot, wereas guys like Roy Jones, Floyd, Pernell and Ray Leonard are poetry in motion in boxing terms ..... I'd also add Don Curry to that list too, he was an aesthetically beautifully fluid fighter to watch, now that is natural talent ..

[TFFP]

Just watched Campbell/Funegga for the first time, that one passed me by at the time. I'm not at all convinced Funegga didn't win that fight. I scored it the same as Harold Lederman who scored it 113-113, except I have Funegga winning round 3 which was blatantly his round.

All the rounds were easy to score, Campbell won 1, 2, 11 and 12 with two 10-8's so to me that was a poor decision because there wasn't the excuse 'they were close rounds'. Funegga's were all clear.

[kosaros]

Dunky your still spouting utter shite .... Scott Harrison was lucky Guzman didnt get in there with him, he would have schooled him. Harrison has to be the most ridiculous excuse for a world champion there has ever been, oh man i still remember that fight he had with Victor Polo, he totally struggled with Polo and then Marquez fought Polo and won every round, what a bum Harrison was , yet another British hypejob ..

As for Alex 'zero talent' Arthur, i can still envisage him being beaten to a pulp by Gomez, and it was the same shot over and over again, cant remember if it was the left hook or right hook but it was an embarrassment. He was knocked down and then he smiled at the camera like he was the man, what a dickhead Alex Artur is .. And then he gets beat by the limited Nicky Cook and blames weight problems, Arthur is a chump, like so many he talks a great fight but when it comes time to deliver he fails miserably .... Alex Arthur was touted for years as the next big thing in British Boxing but he ended up like Harrison, exposed as a totally limited idiot of a fighter who had nothing .. Harrison and his WBO belt, reminded me of Calzaghe with his WBO strap, taking the easy defences that the WBO road dishes up for 'domestic' fighters .... Harrison was lucky he never entered the ring with Marquez or Guzman, they would have absolutely destroyed him, as for Arthur v Guzman, i still laugh at the idea of that mismatch .......... Arthur and Harrison against anybody of any class is an absolute joke, so Dunky stop talking your ridiculous patriotic Scottish shit, Buchanan was a great fighter, Watt was a decent fighter but since these 2 guys, all you've had are bums with big mouths and zero talent .........:deal

So you have to be a world class fighter to avoid being a fighter with zero talent??? :think

[TFFP]

Let me just say this... Guzman gonna have to do something special to win this fight. I mean seriously special.

Funegga is a high-output guy, like 90 a round, and he throws triple jabs like they are nothing to maintain distance. He's 6'1, he's no bum skill wise, he rolls with the punches well on defence, throws correctly to head and body. Only time Campbell got any success was just walking right through and pounding away. Put it this way if he didn't get those knockdowns he's losing this fight by a schooling.

Guzman gonna have to do some seriously good moving and throw Funegga out of his rhythm with lead right hands and left hooks. He gotta cut Funegga's work-rate down and the only way to do that is either stay inside or circle well and throw punches that make Funegga think about putting that jab out there.

[themacallan]

big fan of guzman. hope to see him vs katsidis, valero and marqez
I'd like to see him with katsidis too.

[beecho1988]

Guzman UD

[ishy]

Just watched Campbell/Funegga for the first time, that one passed me by at the time. I'm not at all convinced Funegga didn't win that fight. I scored it the same as Harold Lederman who scored it 113-113, except I have Funegga winning round 3 which was blatantly his round.

All the rounds were easy to score, Campbell won 1, 2, 11 and 12 with two 10-8's so to me that was a poor decision because there wasn't the excuse 'they were close rounds'. Funegga's were all clear.


:lol::lol: You've been listening to Lennox too much

[themacallan]

Dunky your still spouting utter shite .... Scott Harrison was lucky Guzman didnt get in there with him, he would have schooled him. Harrison has to be the most ridiculous excuse for a world champion there has ever been, oh man i still remember that fight he had with Victor Polo, he totally struggled with Polo and then Marquez fought Polo and won every round, what a bum Harrison was , yet another British hypejob ..
...
Big hairy testicles. Interesting you don't mentioned any other harrison fights except one of few where he never performed. Good one.

guzman's gay little shots would have bounced off Harrison as he steamed in.

[TFFP]

Yeah but Harrison is like a snail. Guzman would just punch and move all day and severely outclass the tough, durable Scot.

[themacallan]

Yeah but Harrison is like a snail. Guzman would just punch and move all day and severely outclass the tough, durable Scot.he wouldn't have been be able to get round him to move.

[Little Tyson]

Looking forward to it. Though there has to be only one winner. Joan "The Little Tyson" Guzman will win a UD

[cubex]

Looking forward to it. Though there has to be only one winner. Joan "The Little Tyson" Guzman will win a UD

He ain't been Little Tyson since he was at 122.

[Robot16]

Just watched Campbell/Funegga for the first time, that one passed me by at the time. I'm not at all convinced Funegga didn't win that fight. I scored it the same as Harold Lederman who scored it 113-113, except I have Funegga winning round 3 which was blatantly his round.

All the rounds were easy to score, Campbell won 1, 2, 11 and 12 with two 10-8's so to me that was a poor decision because there wasn't the excuse 'they were close rounds'. Funegga's were all clear.

Yeh i had funeka clearing winning a close decision against campbell.
Campbell only won the kd rounds and 1 or two more. also a kd does not always need to equal a 10-8.

But i feel guzman will defeat funeka, funeka hasnt fought anyone like guzman, he ko'd raheem, but guzman is on another level.
Guzman has fought big strong punchers before

[ishy]

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[LHL]

Funeka looks unnatural :lol: Also Guzman made weight :yikes

[GazOC]

Nice of Guzman to make weight.

[TFFP]

Nice of Guzman to make weight.
:lol:

What are your thoughts on this one?

[China_hand_Joe]

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Credit for Guzman for having the guts to move up and face Chad Dawson, this weight jump is unreal.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I know I mump & moan & HATE Guzman, but when I was moaning a few days ago about him I had forgotten the heartache he had went through when losing his mother.
Supposedly, this was why he didnt make the weight for the Arthur fight, & who can blame him if he was looking after his sick mother.

So if Guzman wins, I will bear no grudges. I will take all the Guzman loving that comes my way, take a deep breath & get over it. Such is life.

may the best man win.

[JIM KELLY]

Ali reminds me of Kareem in Game of Death, just throw him a blue rag and shades..

btw what time will this be on? 3 am?

[PowerPuncher]

Its such a hard 1 to judge, we've never seen Guzman with anyone like Funeka whos the LW version of Paul Williams but with more pop. Guzman maybe forced to be the aggressor as he'll need to be inside. I have to go with the superior skills of Guzman despite the lay off, age and stepping up in weight. Guzman UD

[scunny slugger]

what time is this being shown u.k time???

[Boro chris]

he beat world class fighters unlike arthur and harrison, he put on a boxing clinic against soto,

Absolutely! Arthur was barely euro level. Guzman was on a differrent level. Don't know enough about Harrison to judge him however. Can't find anything on youtube.