What now for Valuev?

[11player]

Does he stay still and wait for the rematch with Haye with should happen only in June/July?

I think he should better go after the fights that will pay from now on. he seems to have hit the way down on his career and probably does not have more than 3 or 4 good fights in him (just speculating).

A rematch with Haye is not such a good idea as I think there is not much more Valuev can do to win than he already did in the first fight. It's really Haye's fight to lose.

IMO, as he already has the Haye rematch safe, he should go after a name fighter to regain his momentum, someone like Golota, or Maskaev in Moscow, a fight he can win while making good money. Then he may open back the door for a showdown with the Klitschkos (best paying fight) and still have Haye as an option.

Anyway, Valuev has to make well on the time he has left bc he may get trapped into his gigantic body sooner than he thinks.

[TFFP]

He should retire IMO. He's getting on in years, had over 50 fights, and I think he's done as best he can in his career. He won a title and defended it a few times against decent contenders and I'm sure he's made some money in his career. I don't think there is a lot else for him to achieve and it sounded like he'd lost a bit of heart after the Haye fight.

[Casamayor122]

The rematch with Haye is a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. The Klitschkos will never fight him now that he doesn't have a belt. I can't see anyone fighting him except a young contender with something to prove. The Haye rematch is his retirement fund.

[ChrisPontius]

I don't understand why any promoter would pay for a boring Haye-Valuev rematch.

Valuev needs to fight someone without footspeed or who won't back up. Against those type of guys (Liakhovic, Ruiz) he is quite good. However, anyone with good footwork and stamina will beat him in a similar fashion Haye, Chagaev and Donald did.

Maskaev/Rahman/Peter (although at his recent 240lbs he may be good again) would be winnable fights, and probably exciting ones as well. They could get him back on the map.


Let's not forget that while his recent loss was long overdue, i thought he did quite well and won a good amount of rounds.

[Aint no stoppin]

I don't understand why any promoter would pay for a boring Haye-Valuev rematch.

Valuev needs to fight someone without footspeed or who won't back up. Against those type of guys (Liakhovic, Ruiz) he is quite good. However, anyone with good footwork and stamina will beat him in a similar fashion Haye, Chagaev and Donald did.

Maskaev/Rahman/Peter (although at his recent 240lbs he may be good again) would be winnable fights, and probably exciting ones as well. They could get him back on the map.


Let's not forget that while his recent loss was long overdue, i thought he did quite well and won a good amount of rounds.

I want wlad vs valuev! But i doubt that wlad has the balls!

[cubex]

Shave his body?

I'd like t osee him against Ustinov as it would be a circus act and also the old vet would test the ''old'' rookie.

[Flurry]

You can see how crooked the boxing biz is again, Valuev and haye shouldnt have been pited against each other in the first place, both of them ducked the KLitschkos. But matching them a second time after the first borefest we witnessed is making a fool of boxing fans again, its purely about money, it has zero meaning for the game, it will show for the xth time that valuev has no punch no speed and little variety and it will show again that a fast talented cruiserweight can deal with a mammoth provided the mammoth cant box

[bodhi]

I want wlad vs valuev! But i doubt that wlad has the balls!

:-(


He should retire. He isn´t the youngest anymore and with his weight it won´t do any good for this health if he fights on.

[kosaros]

Retire...please.

[Grecorussian]

I think the recent fight of Valuev against Haye and his loss PROVED that he is not afraid of anyone . And of course not the Klitschko's . If he was afraid he wouldn't have fought Haye in the first place. He would have fought one easy opponent and keep the belt for much longer. He has said in public many times that whenever , wherever one Klit wants the fight he has it... And so he said to Haye... Why be afraid ? One loss is always in the schedule... Nobody will be world champion for ever
About his future...I don't know. Probably one title shot in the near future and then retirement. He will always be in our hearts, as the first russian to reach the top in professional heavyweight boxing and put his name next to the name of the legends of the sport
Thanks for the memories!!!

[Mr Butt]

i think he should fight wlad

[Flurry]

Him and his promoter want no part of Wlad. And I doubt Klitscho d be interested to fight him now that he has no title, except maybe for the chance to be the first to KO the man. Given Valuev already lost to Chagaev, Haye, Donald, Holyfield and Ruiz beating him would constitute no extraordinary feat, would tells us nothing about Wlad, only a KO would warrant such a match.

[Mazallan]

Valuev needs to asses how his body feels. If he can carry on fighting to the same standard as before the Haye fight then he will be more than a match for most other heavies, I can not think of one European or American heavyweight that can beat him. Maybe with a couple decent come back wins he can still get in frame for a shot at Wlad or Vitali. Both would be willing to make some money from the fight and are both running out of opponents that people care about.

[Cachibatches]

He should quit, and I mean that as a supporter.

For whatever flaws the man has, he broguht a good chin, a useful jab, and amazing stamina for a man of his size. He parlayed that into a title. Good show, good career. Some of us always apprecaited him, and now its time to enjoy the fruits of that succes.

[Farmboxer]

Rematch is big money fight.

[Armo_Ruski]

wwe honestly. the guy is "too nice" to be a boxer. lol. he's 7ft tall and fights opponents with pity for them. if the dude had alil more edge and attitude especially in the ring. he'd be unstoppable.

[NBT]

wwe honestly. the guy is "too nice" to be a boxer. lol. he's 7ft tall and fights opponents with pity for them. if the dude had alil more edge and attitude especially in the ring. he'd be unstoppable.
I think the way he fights is generally the most appropriate for him. Due to his immense size and weight he is just too slow. He can get away with that against a lot of people because there are many other HWs who aren't exactly speedsters but guys with reasonably fast hands and movement will always give him trouble no matter what he does. If he would suddenly start getting ultra aggressive against those guys they would just make him miss for a few rounds and he would be out of gas in no time.

[VHB]

Valuev should fight Jukka Järvinen.

I would bet all my money on Järvinen.

Why?

Because he has a better movement and jab.

[liamo1982]

I think he should boil down to Cruiserweight LMAO

[Mazallan]

I think he should boil down to Cruiserweight LMAO


He would be awesome it light middle.

[liamo1982]

He would be awesome it light middle.
Imagine him Vs Anthony Small Classic

[KO KIDD]

He should either retire or fight a handpicked confidence builder. The guy is over 35 7 foot 300 plus. He seems to have aged quickly and not only that but his knees do not allow him to be the fighter he used to be. Before he won the belt he let go with his right more he thru way more power shots. He became a jabber. I thought after his Chugaev fight he was all down hill. What he needs to do is fight a one dimensional slugger who has no foot work and no defense. A guy that would be tailor made for him. He could fight Mcall, Tua, Areolla, Oleg Maskaev. All are dangerous punchers but would not provide the achilles heel for Valuev. He can deal with plodding sluggers not fast movers like Haye or Holyfield or Donald.

[fatcity]

Did he ever make big money.All pics I have seen of him and his wife are in a very humble apartment.

[11player]

Valuev has the rematch clause, which he should use, at some point, it will get him another nice payday. I just happen to think he should not go for this fight straight away, a win against a famous gatekeeper, would help bring attention to him, promote his rematch with Haye or even open up new possibilities for big fights.

Golota in Moscow, Warsaw, Chicago or NYC will be good. Maskaev in Moscow or Germany, Botha in Moscow, Germany or South Africa, any of these would be fine for a good payday and as a confidence builder. Briggs could be too dangerous, Rahman is too shot.

[Buddy87]

Don King has promotional rights, I'm going to say this; HE WILL HAVE ANOTHER TITLE FIGHT! Despite the fact that Arreola got his ass pounded, being owned by another top promotional company as well I wouldn't be suprised if he has one as well.

Someone mentioned Alexander Ustinov, he was from the K-1 I believe I seen him and if he tries to pull that stunt against Klitschko he's in some deep crap. The other tall guy that Ustinov has faced off against was against Julius Long which seemed pretty interesting for the first two rounds until he pulled a Sam Peters on him!

Well comparing Valuev to Long ( I would love to see that fight regardless of regards just to see two giants fight like when Long was in K-1 I believe it was when he faced off a guy that was 6'11 ) Unlike Valuev, when you watch Julius Long fight, you find yourself BEGGING for him to jab, when he did it against the top cuban contender in the HW division, it made you feel kinda proud of him to go all 8 rounds :)

Anyways, comparing Valuev to Long would be like comparing Klitschko to Dimitrenko now is that truly fair? maybe a confidence booster for Eddie Chambers to take on the next big lug but I doubt when he lands that body shot, all Wladamir's going to do is blink and wonder what bug bit him.

With a reputation of being a 2 time HW champion and with Don King on his side, I say another fight's going to take place whether it's with Haye, one of the Klitschko's or if some sort of goddam miracle occurs, it will be the almighty trilogy that the earth stood still for to give praise, Nikolai Valuev vs John Ruiz III! the battle of the hairy wilderbeasts! 1st fight was a great fight, in the 2nd fight, Valuev spanked his ass, but it's too early to see where Ruiz is in his career, I was unfortunate not to see his last fight on the undercard.

[howarya]

lose some weight

[cubex]

Grow a beard?

[p.Townend]

He will end up in a fight for a vacant title of some kind.Cant see a Haye return coming his way.

[paddycfc]

a think he will retire or should do he has gone through a long career without being seriosly hurt if he stays fighting a think he will end up getting stopped badly

[11player]

DKP and Sauerland are demanding US$ 4 mil. purse to make the fight with Vitali. Is this a legit request? considering Valuev has a contractual rematch set with Haye?

I wonder how much this fight is worth in Germany? 8-10 million? that means Valuev is asking for 40-50% of the purse.

Well, if they can't get the fight with Valuev donne, then maybe a good way to go is ask DKP for a fight against high ranked Ray Austin.

Fight a gatekeeper like Golota, Botha, Maskaev, Rahman, could be good as a confidence builder.

[Боксёр]

Valuev should fight Jukka Järvinen.

I would bet all my money on Järvinen.

Why?

Because he has a better movement and jab.
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Maybe he is lacking BEARD tho ?

lost 7 (KO 7)

:rofl :rofl :rofl

[wally]

Vitali Klitschko Makes Final Offer of $2 Million To Valuev
By Andrey Krikunov
WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko has made concessions in the negotiations with seven-foot Nikolay Valuev and his promoters. The Ukrainian boxer offered $2 million dollars to the WBA ex-champion, thus doubling his initial offer. Previously Valuev’s co-promoter Don King, according to press information, insisted on the amount of $4 million.
"We continue the negotiations”, - Vitali Klitschko said to liga.net - “Valuev has made big mistake by signing the contract with Don King. Valuev wants to get $4 million for this fight, though he has never earned so much even when he was a world champion. I made him the official offer – $2 million and the chance to fight for the world title. If he doesn’t answer by next week, we’ll surely sign an agreement with another opponent”.
Niculay better take the offer.

He's what...35 / 36...and this probably will be his last big payday.

As for Vitali, possibly looking for another opponent..who then?
-Haye, Adamek and Povetkin all will be busy come this late spring. Beyond them 3 you only have ridiculous names . Audley vs Vitali in London? lol

[Armo_Ruski]

seems to me like DK is in valuevs ear on this one. i truly believe valuev would be more then happy to take 2 mill and fight VK but don king is tellin the giant noo noo u can get more .

[NBT]

seems to me like DK is in valuevs ear on this one. i truly believe valuev would be more then happy to take 2 mill and fight VK but don king is tellin the giant noo noo u can get more .
I don't think Valuev really has any say in this, King and Sauerland are making the decisions. I also think, based on Valuev's earlier statements, that he would take the offer if he was diciding things. $2 million is certainly not extraordinary generous but it isn't too bad either, there aren't that many boxers who are making more money today. He is definitely not getting a 40-60 split, that's ridiculous. Klitschko is the title holder and the big money generator in this fight, Valuev is the challenger without the title coming off a loss. Valuev no doubt brings a certain attraction to the table, but that's hardly worth 40%, 33-67 would imo be approporiate.

[11player]

Yup, 33-67 split is just right for this fight

[11player]

If Vitali wanted this fight for a couple millions he really shouldn't have bothered calling Valuev bc it would never happen. Vitali has to pay to retire Valuev and take him out of the way of a Haye fight.

Everybody knows Vitali will win this, the crap about Valuev having a shot at the Wbc title is ridiculous.

People forget that Valuev has a contractual rematch set with Haye after Ruiz, probably earning 50% of the purse, and Vitali real goal is to fight Haye and add the WBA belt to his legacy. Not fighting Valuev means postponing the Haye fight for late in the year or 2011 and paying major step aside money to Valuev, not to mention there will be a mandatory fight between Meehan and Chagaev coming soon, which can get in the way as well. If you put all that into the picture, paying Valuev about 3.5 million for the fight is really not that much.

The way I see it, they are not that far, as former champion and one of the top HWs out there Valuev is entitled to at least 30% of the purse, which is the same a mandatory position makes. DKP and Sauerland already said this fight is worth 10 million or more and are ready to pay Vitali guaranteed money considering these numbers, so any offer to Valuev under 3 million is really lowballing.

You know, Vitali does not have that many options, the only good name he will land for that kind of money is Solis, maybe Dimitrenko.

As for Valuev, he can make a million purse fighting names like Golota, Maskaev, Botha, Rahman, Bowe, in fights he will surelly win and not risk his health, then wait for his rematch with Haye, where he will make close to the money Vitali is offering.

Heck, Valuev could even go for a fight against Peter, a bout he can win on his jab alone, and get the 2 million Vitali is offering, plus a mandatory shot at Vitali or Wlad.

[Rick G]

Well, obviously Valuev is still in the mix...

[kostya by ko]

Could Vitali be waiting to see the outcome of Haye/Ruiz?

If Ruiz beat Haye he couldn't do any better than get beaten up by Vitali for a huge payday.

[Buddy87]

Just imagine, when Ruiz beats Haye and magically defeats Vitali by a rigged decision by the judges the world will freeze and stop as the people call out....RUIZ VS VALUEV III! Personally, I think from all the fights I've seen Ruiz fight ( excluding Tua ) including Jones Jr, Toney and holyfield. I think Valuev to me has beaten Ruiz the best by decision in the second fight, just the look on his face of feeling demoralized and ready to break down was shocking to me. First fight was good to me as well.

[Ivo]

Valuev should get rid of Don King and accept the K2 offer. He should do it before it is too late. King will lead him to edge of a cliff.

[NBT]

Valuev should get rid of Don King and accept the K2 offer. He should do it before it is too late. King will lead him to edge of a cliff.
How should he do that? You think King will release him from his contract just like that? Why should he? If Valuev does a breach of contract he isn't fighting anyone, let alone Klitschko.

[Neverchair]

Im not sure there will be many TV companies that will be prepared to pay out for a Haye/ Valuev rematch.

[11player]

All very quiet on the Vitali vs Valuev negotiations. Is that a good sign or bad?

[Aint no stoppin]

All very quiet on the Vitali vs Valuev negotiations. Is that a good sign or bad?

fight is dead!

[Ivo]

Solis is mentioned as a possible replacement of Valuev.

[Ivo]

How should he do that? You think King will release him from his contract just like that? Why should he? If Valuev does a breach of contract he isn't fighting anyone, let alone Klitschko.

I am sure that Don King will not release him from the contract. Most of King fighters end up in court with him. So even if you do whatever Kings told you, someday you will have to seek justice in the court of law. I do not know anything about Valuev's contract but he should seek grounds to annul it.

Anyways, I am just disappointing of the current situation. King will do anything to prevent a unification fight. He blocks everything with that stupid WBA belt. It is a division within a division. Only his fighters fight for that belt in probably the most boring rematch series.

Let King promote featherweights or lightweights. I could not care less but he has been killing the most glamorous division.

[IntentionalButt]

I am sure that Don King will not release him from the contract. Most of King fighters end up in court with him. So even if you do whatever Kings told you, someday you will have to seek justice in the court of law. I do not know anything about Valuev's contract but he should seek grounds to annul it.

Anyways, I am just disappointing of the current situation. King will do anything to prevent a unification fight. He blocks everything with that stupid WBA belt. It is a division within a division. Only his fighters fight for that belt in probably the most boring rematch series.

Let King promote featherweights or lightweights. I could not care less but he has been killing the most glamorous division.
Why is it still considered the most glamorous?

Look at the talent at featherweight and lightweight, and think of the exciting potential matchups to be made.

Now look at the talent and potential matchups at HW.

King is the least of the "glamour" division's problems (though he is a problem).

[RUSKULL]

Let Valuev fight in the circus because that's what any of his Don King promoted fights will be.

[Brickhaus]

If Vitali wanted this fight for a couple millions he really shouldn't have bothered calling Valuev bc it would never happen. Vitali has to pay to retire Valuev and take him out of the way of a Haye fight.

Everybody knows Vitali will win this, the crap about Valuev having a shot at the Wbc title is ridiculous.

People forget that Valuev has a contractual rematch set with Haye after Ruiz, probably earning 50% of the purse, and Vitali real goal is to fight Haye and add the WBA belt to his legacy. Not fighting Valuev means postponing the Haye fight for late in the year or 2011 and paying major step aside money to Valuev, not to mention there will be a mandatory fight between Meehan and Chagaev coming soon, which can get in the way as well. If you put all that into the picture, paying Valuev about 3.5 million for the fight is really not that much.

The way I see it, they are not that far, as former champion and one of the top HWs out there Valuev is entitled to at least 30% of the purse, which is the same a mandatory position makes. DKP and Sauerland already said this fight is worth 10 million or more and are ready to pay Vitali guaranteed money considering these numbers, so any offer to Valuev under 3 million is really lowballing.

You know, Vitali does not have that many options, the only good name he will land for that kind of money is Solis, maybe Dimitrenko.

As for Valuev, he can make a million purse fighting names like Golota, Maskaev, Botha, Rahman, Bowe, in fights he will surelly win and not risk his health, then wait for his rematch with Haye, where he will make close to the money Vitali is offering.

Heck, Valuev could even go for a fight against Peter, a bout he can win on his jab alone, and get the 2 million Vitali is offering, plus a mandatory shot at Vitali or Wlad.

At least one post makes sense.

[RyDogg123]

Retireee!!

[11player]

Despite the smokescreen Vitali' people are blowing, the fight they want is really Valuev, it's quite clear by now. They keep increasing their "final" offers. Vitali is clearly interested in clearing the path to Haye.

Now, IMO, they are pretty close to making the fight, Vitali has a 2.5 offer on the table, Sauerland is found of it, but DKP still wants more money.

I believe DKP has already lowered their asking price from 4 million to 3.5 - 3.3 million, they will probably settle at 3 million.

[Son of Gaul]

He should retire IMO. He's getting on in years, had over 50 fights, and I think he's done as best he can in his career. He won a title and defended it a few times against decent contenders and I'm sure he's made some money in his career. I don't think there is a lot else for him to achieve and it sounded like he'd lost a bit of heart after the Haye fight.

Agreed

[maverock]

Valuev will possibly fight Ray Austin in a WBC eliminator and try to become mandatory.

[Cachibatches]

Valuev will possibly fight Ray Austin in a WBC eliminator and try to become mandatory.
Why the hell would he do that when Vitali is trying to sign the fight?

Would the mandatory split be more than the 2-3 million offered?

[11player]

What do you guys think will happen now?

Will Valuev try to go directly with the rematch with Haye?

Will he opt to go back to the win column fighting a gatekeeper like Brewster, Golota, Rahman, Botha or Maskaev? or even a journeyman?

Will he go for the WBC mandatory eliminator against Austin?

Or would he be interested in a big lucrative fight with Peter for a shot at Wlad?

Sauerland and his coach already announced they plan to bring him back early June.

[T.C.W]

Despite the smokescreen Vitali' people are blowing, the fight they want is really Valuev, it's quite clear by now. They keep increasing their "final" offers. Vitali is clearly interested in clearing the path to Haye.

Now, IMO, they are pretty close to making the fight, Vitali has a 2.5 offer on the table, Sauerland is found of it, but DKP still wants more money.

I believe DKP has already lowered their asking price from 4 million to 3.5 - 3.3 million, they will probably settle at 3 million.valuev v Vitali in in august sounds about right, There mad if they don't take that fight. it would be a massive fight.

[BoxingFan2010]

The rematch with Haye is a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. The Klitschkos will never fight him now that he doesn't have a belt. I can't see anyone fighting him except a young contender with something to prove. The Haye rematch is his retirement fund.

Bullshit! Vitali wants this fight but Valuev turned it down again. He was offered 2.5 this time. He has never, nor will he ever fight the klitschko's. If he did fight Vitali, Vitali would show Haye up by getting a KO in the first 4 rounds. Then both Haye & Valuev would look bad, why it will never happen! :good

[Brickhaus]

Bullshit! Vitali wants this fight but Valuev turned it down again. He was offered 2.5 this time. He has never, nor will he ever fight the klitschko's. If he did fight Vitali, Vitali would show Haye up by getting a KO in the first 4 rounds. Then both Haye & Valuev would look bad, why it will never happen! :good

Don King said the other day that the fight is almost finalized for October, FWIW. He's talked shit before though, so who knows.

[IntentionalButt]

Don King said the other day that the fight is almost finalized for October, FWIW. He's talked shit before though, so who knows.

He's got to be desperate for a big money event, his old guard are all aging and/or splitting away (mostly in non-amicable and even litigious fashion) and he doesn't have much of a prospect stable.

BTW, I've been meaning to ask - are you the site admin at BLH? Good site for reviews and breakdowns. That and Fightwriter are my two preferred sources on boxing write-ups. :good

[Brickhaus]

He's got to be desperate for a big money event, his old guard are all aging and/or splitting away (mostly in non-amicable and even litigious fashion) and he doesn't have much of a prospect stable.

BTW, I've been meaning to ask - are you the site admin at BLH? Good site for reviews and breakdowns. That and Fightwriter are my two preferred sources on boxing write-ups. :good

Not the admin, but one of the two or three main writers there. Scott Christ is the admin (and he does most of the fight previews), and Ted Sares writes as well. Usually Scott and I are on the same wavelength though.

[kenmore]

Bullshit! Vitali wants this fight but Valuev turned it down again. He was offered 2.5 this time. He has never, nor will he ever fight the klitschko's. If he did fight Vitali, Vitali would show Haye up by getting a KO in the first 4 rounds. Then both Haye & Valuev would look bad, why it will never happen! :good

I disagree. Valuev and his people know that it's time to cash out. They're not worried about winning or losing; they want to get the biggest possible payday before Valuev's marketability erodes any further. Thus, a big bout against either Klitschko is ideal. Vlad's not available, so Vitali is the logical choice. All this hemming-and-hawing is just Don King bucking for the best price for Valuev. King's not the type to undersell his product.

I'm not saying Valuev's career is over athletically. But I do believe that market-wise, Valuev is on the downside. His people know it's time to strike the deal while the stock is still hot, so to speak.

[kostya by ko]

I agree and a fight with one of the K Bros is the only move he can make really, otherwise why not rematch Haye?

[BoxingFan2010]

Does he stay still and wait for the rematch with Haye with should happen only in June/July?

I think he should better go after the fights that will pay from now on. he seems to have hit the way down on his career and probably does not have more than 3 or 4 good fights in him (just speculating).

A rematch with Haye is not such a good idea as I think there is not much more Valuev can do to win than he already did in the first fight. It's really Haye's fight to lose.

IMO, as he already has the Haye rematch safe, he should go after a name fighter to regain his momentum, someone like Golota, or Maskaev in Moscow, a fight he can win while making good money. Then he may open back the door for a showdown with the Klitschkos (best paying fight) and still have Haye as an option.

Anyway, Valuev has to make well on the time he has left bc he may get trapped into his gigantic body sooner than he thinks.

He should grow some balls and fight Vitali! Then Haye would see how to take the giant out. thats the reason it wont happen. Vitali in 4:thumbsup

[kenmore]

I agree and a fight with one of the K Bros is the only move he can make really, otherwise why not rematch Haye?

Haye's managers (promoters an TV people) -- the ones who are trying to boost his marketability -- may not want a Valuev rematch. This is because they fear that Haye will win another safe, efficient, but boring decision that turns off boxing fans. If that happens, it will be harder to sell Haye in the US and Europe as an exciting superstar.

[BoxingFan2010]

I think the recent fight of Valuev against Haye and his loss PROVED that he is not afraid of anyone . And of course not the Klitschko's . If he was afraid he wouldn't have fought Haye in the first place. He would have fought one easy opponent and keep the belt for much longer. He has said in public many times that whenever , wherever one Klit wants the fight he has it... And so he said to Haye... Why be afraid ? One loss is always in the schedule... Nobody will be world champion for ever
About his future...I don't know. Probably one title shot in the near future and then retirement. He will always be in our hearts, as the first russian to reach the top in professional heavyweight boxing and put his name next to the name of the legends of the sport
Thanks for the memories!!!

WTF.....Do you know how long the klitschko's have been trying to fight him, with him saying NO! Get your shit straight. Were talking YEARS!:deal

[11player]

Valuev is waisting precious time of his career, he is sliding down, has few meaningfull fights on his career before becoming a gatekeeper.

By now, it should be clear if Vitali will put the old 2.5m offer back on the table or not.

Valuev should just get a win, to build up his rematch with Haye.

Valuev vs Tye Fields - Batle of the Giants - that should get some attention.

[Grecorussian]

In an interview (fightnews) he said he will be fighting in autumn. But not Haye or Solis.He didn't mention any possible opponents. He also said that he had a coffee with Vitali in Peter :lol:

[BoxingFan2010]

The rematch with Haye is a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. The Klitschkos will never fight him now that he doesn't have a belt. I can't see anyone fighting him except a young contender with something to prove. The Haye rematch is his retirement fund.

Vitai offered him 1.5 M to fight him with no belt, Vitali puts his belt on the line. Valuev said no because Don King needs more money and also wants to co-promote the fight. In English- Valuev is running scared still from the Klits!:good

[SimplyTheBest]

Vitai offered him 1.5 M to fight him with no belt, Vitali puts his belt on the line. Valuev said no because Don King needs more money and also wants to co-promote the fight. In English- Valuev is running scared still from the Klits!:good
Co-promote the fight, AND they want to put it on ARD, when they know well enough Klitschko (the champion and promoter) is tied to RTL. It's the exact same shit as Haye is pulling.

[SimplyTheBest]

If Valuev isn't going to take Vitali's offer and complain....then he and the other ducker Povetkin might as well fight each other. They're in the same stable, so they can't bicker over tv rights and purses too much.

[Axe]

Valuev should take a tune-up against a decent name opponent like Maskaev, rake in a couple of hundred quid, and then cash out with the biggest fight available.

That would be a Vitali fight, as no way Haye gives Niko anything close to 1 mil.

[11player]

Agreed Axe.

Maskaev, in Russia, would be a pretty good stay busy fight.

The rematch with Haye, was probably set in the first contract, with the money split and everything, DKP and Sauerland surelly tied everything up. I'd say Valuev will make at least 40% of the purse, which is more than a million. How much of that money Valuev actually will see is another story, a sad one, IMO.

After several weeks and reafirmations on Vitali's part it's clear the offer to Valuev will not increase, time to move on and maybe chase that fight a little later.

[caine]

A rematch with Haye could take place after the Harrison fight and that would not be a bad thing. We might see something a bit better second time around.

[11player]

Unfortunate for Valuev to pick up this injury.

Is Valuev still good enough to beat the likes of Arreola, Thompson, Dimitrenko and Peter?

I believe he could make it a 50-50 fight.