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liljp361
09-26-2007, 08:01 AM
How the hell did Hatton get the W looked to me like he got his ass kicked?

David UK
09-26-2007, 08:04 AM
That's because you don't know how to score a fight.

Max Molyneux
09-26-2007, 08:11 AM
I had Hatton winning by a point 114 -113 because of the 1st round knockdown. It should of been a draw but they never counted Callazo's knockdown.

Hatton's defence was barely existent In that fight but his workrate and conditioning helped him throw and land enough to win It.

Callazo was timing him well with counters but he figured Hatton out too late.

PowerPuncher
09-26-2007, 08:20 AM
Im not a Hatton fan but I had it widish - something like 8rounds to 4 plus a kd, Collazo didnt work hard enough. Massive last roudn though

Jack
09-26-2007, 08:23 AM
It's amaznig how the end of a fight changes peoples opinions. If one boxer wins the first 8 easily, then his opponent wins the last 4 decisively, people have the last rounds in their minds. They probably score it closer than it should be.

It's the same with singular rounds. I remember Leonard finishing every round strong, but in reality, Hagler won 2 minutes of those rounds. The finish was fresh in the judges minds, so he won rounds he should have lost.

I think this fight is another example of this. it was close, but because of the way it ended, I think it has effected peoples thoughts on the entire fight. Watch the first 10 rounds, and it's clear than Hatton wins 7, including the knockdown.

liljp361
09-26-2007, 09:07 AM
I disagree...aside from the 1st round knockdown...Collazo was competitive every round..

Dorfmeister
09-26-2007, 09:30 AM
Collazo could never have won that fight if he went down to Ricky's very first left hook and the way he was complaining to the ref in spite of fighting back as Hatton was hammering up on him and some phlegm was dripping out of his mouth in the second round ... What happened in my view was that Ricky was strong to clinch but not to effectively close the distance and was coutered many times by the slick, fast lefty and was only hurt mid-way into the 11th, shook it off and made it to the final bell to earn a difficult, close unanimous decision, good effort to former WBA titleholder Louie Collazo in Boston though.

WhataRock
09-26-2007, 09:43 AM
Though I felt Collazo won the fight, I still scored it the same as Max, for Hatton with the KD being the differnence.

Collazo was the better man and won his rounds bigger, but its just Hatton managed to win more rounds, though he wasnt overly convincing you couldnt score those rounds for Collazo.

PowerPuncher
09-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I just rescored it:

Hatton:1,2,8,9,11
Collazo:3,5,6,7,10,12

It all depends on if you give Collazo a 10-8 for the last round or not (which you could do, Hatton hit the deck and was out on his feet). 2,3 and 11 could have gone either way

FlatNose
09-26-2007, 10:31 AM
Theres a big difference between "getting his ass kicked" which is not an accurate description of the fight, and Collazo being "competitiive".Ricky had an off night, and Collazo is nobodys patsy.But what exactly is the thread creators point? Just an opportunity to dig at Hatton I suspect.

Luigi1985
09-26-2007, 10:57 AM
I think I had it 115-113 for Hatton.

magnificentdave
09-26-2007, 11:18 AM
It's kind of dissapointing to me that instead of giving Hatton props for winning a close decision against a larger man, who also happens to be a southpaw who has very quick hands, they try to break him down for not having dominated Collazo

Thread Stealer
09-26-2007, 11:31 AM
It was a very close fight.

I had Collazo ahead 114-113.

I didn't have a problem with the decision.

Executioner
09-26-2007, 11:57 AM
Hatton won

jopez707
09-26-2007, 12:23 PM
In just watched the fight for the first time, I scored it a draw 114-114
1. Hatton 10-8 Collazo
2. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
3. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
4. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
5. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
6. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
7. Collazo 10-10 Hatton (even round)
8. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
9. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
10. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
11. Hatton 10-9 Collazo
12. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
*'s= close rounds
I thought it was a very close fight, could have went either way.

Sug3
09-26-2007, 12:48 PM
Check the power punches punchstat numbers hatton landed 254-threw 637 40% and collazo landed 167-threw 471 35%,but the final punchstat numbers showed hatton landing 259-throwing 741 35% and collazo landing 213-throwing 712 30%,i actually scored the fight 6-5-1 in hattons favor.

Alo2006
09-26-2007, 12:49 PM
In just watched the fight for the first time, I scored it a draw 114-114
1. Hatton 10-8 Collazo
2. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
3. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
4. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
5. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
6. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
7. Collazo 10-10 Hatton (even round)
8. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
9. Hatton 10-9 Collazo *
10. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
11. Hatton 10-9 Collazo
12. Collazo 10-9 Hatton
*'s= close rounds
I thought it was a very close fight, could have went either way.

I didn't score it exactly like that, but I scored it a draw too.

Claypole
09-26-2007, 12:54 PM
Let's not forget this was a title fight, and Hatton's first fight at the weight. No soft warm up fights, straight in against a decent, tough opponent.
He wasn't "out on his feet" at the end, just very tired. I don't think people want to give Hatton any credit in that fight, but then what's new?

hitman_hatton1
09-26-2007, 01:38 PM
I just rescored it:

Hatton:1,2,8,9,11
Collazo:3,5,6,7,10,12

It all depends on if you give Collazo a 10-8 for the last round or not (which you could do, Hatton hit the deck and was out on his feet). 2,3 and 11 could have gone either way

no way does collazo win the 7th. :roll:

Guru_Too_You
09-26-2007, 01:43 PM
It was a very close fight.

I had Collazo ahead 114-113.

I didn't have a problem with the decision.

We tend to score all the close ones the same.

Whatarock: Do you really feel the 11th could have gone either way with Ricky out on his feet?

AREA 53
09-26-2007, 02:03 PM
When you consider that Ricky had two prior opponents sheduled at JR Welter then had a last minute Switch to Full Welter, which caused a crash weight/strenght adjustment programme, Against the talented and underrated Collazo, a southpaw, and with the backdrop of Legal proceedings with Frank ****** ongoing, its a wonder Ricky pulled out the Win !

This Time the fitness/weight programme will be much more natural

PowerPuncher
09-26-2007, 02:16 PM
no way does collazo win the 7th. :roll:

I thought he did his work was so much cleaner and Hatton was pretty ineffective, Im not being biased, if I was I would have given 2 and 11 to Collazo

PowerPuncher
09-26-2007, 02:17 PM
Many of you are pointing out some rounds that you thought were very close or could have gone either way. I think Hatton was the harder puncher overall and that was probably why the judges gave him those rounds. On television is not always easy to tell who is landing the harder and stronger punches, especially if both guys are landing. I think in Hattons case that was what swayed the closer rounds in his favor

Why would you say that when Hatton was the one staggering and stunned in many rounds and was clearly grabbing on for dear life in the 12th?

Pimp C
09-26-2007, 02:58 PM
I had Collazo wining by one round but felt it could have gone either way.

41fever
09-26-2007, 03:02 PM
Hatton made it close with his workrate, but he shoulda still lost the fight. The punk cowards behind boxing gave the title to Hatton because of hype. $$$ incentive. Just like DLH-STURM, they didn't want to put a hamper on th e HOPKINS- DLH estravaganza

brooklyn1550
09-26-2007, 04:05 PM
I had Hatton winning 114-113. That first round quick KD really helped him.

unclepaulie
09-26-2007, 04:14 PM
im not a huge hatton fan, but i scored the fight 116-111 hatton i believe.

the_what
09-26-2007, 04:17 PM
Hatton won but he was close to getting KTFO at the end of the fight.

Boom_Boom
09-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Hatton wins because of the 1st round KD