Gonzaga out of UFC 108 (staph)

[Polymath]

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[jimmie]

Doesnt matter from what im told hes a overatted bum anyway.

[Chileno606]

Whats the deal with all the staph infections? are they common in MMA?

[jimmie]

Whats the deal with all the staph infections? are they common in MMA?

Very common.

[LB3000]

Thats a shame, it would have been a good fight.

[ufoalf]

Whats the deal with all the staph infections? are they common in MMA?

They're common in grappling.

[dublynflya]

Very common.

Hey Jimmy I am happy to admit my ignorance regarding staph (Amongst many other things!) and I do know that it is very contagious, but why is it so common in mma competitors? I appreciate that it could easily be passed between fighters (Due to close-quarter grappling) but I haven't heard it that often in boxing and sparring is very often at close qurters. I guess that is the diseases incubation period is such that those infected would not realise they were suffering from it before they have already Spread it, but are there other factors that make mma fighters more susceptible to this serious infection?

[jimmie]

Hey Jimmy I am happy to admit my ignorance regarding staph (Amongst many other things!) and I do know that it is very contagious, but why is it so common in mma competitors? I appreciate that it could easily be passed between fighters (Due to close-quarter grappling) but I haven't heard it that often in boxing and sparring is very often at close qurters. I guess that is the diseases incubation period is such that those infected would not realise they were suffering from it before they have already Spread it, but are there other factors that make mma fighters more susceptible to this serious infection?

Bro you are asking the wrong man :lol: Ive never had it yet and thank lord for that so im not really knowlegable on it.

[AJAX]

Doesnt matter from what im told hes a overatted bum anyway.

That's a little harsh isn't it. The guy is far from a bum and has the skills to be in there anyone. He just finds a way to lose once he steps up in the competition. I don't count him out in any fight.

[jimmie]

That's a little harsh isn't it. The guy is far from a bum and has the skills to be in there anyone. He just finds a way to lose once he steps up in the competition. I don't count him out in any fight.

You may have misunderstood me slighty. I said from what I hear hes a overatted bum you know from the boxingcar's of the world. I think Gonzaga has as much ablity as any Heavyweight in the UFC and would give him a shot to beat ANYONE including Fedor. Although I wouldnt exactly favor him just saying he has serious talent.

Gonzaga's kicks are nasty he knocks people down with leg kicks alone 2nd Werdum fight and ****** McCully, we know about his head kick, he has pretty good wrestling remember he put Shane Carwin on his back and his JiuJitsu regardless of what some people say is outstanding you dont win the Mundial if you got pretty good Jiujitsu you win it when you are an elite grappler and Gonzaga won in 04.

Only real problem with him to me is just mental when you push him like with Werdum and Couture he breaks aside from Carwin's freakish power when you dont get a chance to push back Gonzaga rolls over you. I wont ever forget the Cro Cop fight I dont think its possible that in September 06 Cro Cop kills Barnett and Wanderlei (before Wanderlei started losing alot) in the same night then in April 07 he is all of a sudden "shot" that KO was IMO the most brutal ive seen and Cro Cop has been gun shy since, mentally he is a shell because of that fight.

[Top Dog]

Seems to be rife in mma, I take it that its the grappling right enough, easily spread I suppose

[AJAX]

You may have misunderstood me slighty. I said from what I hear hes a overatted bum you know from the boxingcar's of the world. I think Gonzaga has as much ablity as any Heavyweight in the UFC and would give him a shot to beat ANYONE including Fedor. Although I wouldnt exactly favor him just saying he has serious talent.

Gonzaga's kicks are nasty he knocks people down with leg kicks alone 2nd Werdum fight and ****** McCully, we know about his head kick, he has pretty good wrestling remember he put Shane Carwin on his back and his JiuJitsu regardless of what some people say is outstanding you dont win the Mundial if you got pretty good Jiujitsu you win it when you are an elite grappler and Gonzaga won in 04.

Only real problem with him to me is just mental when you push him like with Werdum and Couture he breaks aside from Carwin's freakish power when you dont get a chance to push back Gonzaga rolls over you. I wont ever forget the Cro Cop fight I dont think its possible that in September 06 Cro Cop kills Barnett and Wanderlei (before Wanderlei started losing alot) in the same night then in April 07 he is all of a sudden "shot" that KO was IMO the most brutal ive seen and Cro Cop has been gun shy since, mentally he is a shell because of that fight.

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[jimmie]

:good

Holy cow some agrees me with about Gonzaga :lol: Now just show up when im in arguements involving that guy. Apparantley im idiot for thinking he is any good :patsch

[scurlaruntings]

Nasty bastads need to learn how to wash. Goodness sake all these wrestlers are getting staph!!

[Beebs]

Hey Jimmy I am happy to admit my ignorance regarding staph (Amongst many other things!) and I do know that it is very contagious, but why is it so common in mma competitors? I appreciate that it could easily be passed between fighters (Due to close-quarter grappling) but I haven't heard it that often in boxing and sparring is very often at close qurters. I guess that is the diseases incubation period is such that those infected would not realise they were suffering from it before they have already Spread it, but are there other factors that make mma fighters more susceptible to this serious infection?


There is body on body contact in boxing, but a lot less. Also sparring takes up much less of the practice in boxing; if you are grappling you are body on body almost 100% of the time. Also in boxing you don't make contact with the floor; in grappling one guy can infect the mat for everybody; even if you wash the mat after every practice it is still there for that one practice.

Also top MMA guys train with top MMA guys all the time, both team members and guests there for whatever reason; this is almost unheard of in boxing. So you get one guy with it, he goes to several gyms with other big time names, they do the same, all of a sudden a bunch of guys have it before anybody knows they have it.

[Beebs]

Holy cow some agrees me with about Gonzaga :lol: Now just show up when im in arguements involving that guy. Apparantley im idiot for thinking he is any good :patsch


I think he is very good, just a tad incomplete mentally.

[jimmie]

I think he is very good, just a tad incomplete mentally.

Well you dont act like an idiot over certain fighters I was directing what I said to boxingcar and chimba to name a couple people.

[québecwarrior]

Gonzaga has the tools to beat everyone.

[scurlaruntings]

Gonzaga has the tools to beat everyone.Yeah he just lacks the brains and the mental toughness.

[jimmie]

Yeah he just lacks the brains and the mental toughness.

Pretty much it but I think he CAN do it. Kinda similar to Vitor in a way has the tools to beat anyone but when pushes hard its hard to imagine him winning any big fights. Gonzaga has one really good win vs Cro Cop where he blew through him same with Vitor's best wins vs Lindland,Wanderlei,Franklin you know its brutal stoppages early.

[scurlaruntings]

Theres no denying Gonzaga's abilities. He's a massive heavy with awesome power great striking and a very good ground game. The problem is he's weak mentally. Theres no shame loosing to a guy like Carwin via hail mary. But his loss to Couture surprised me. He simply wilted. There was no fire in his belly at all or an adjustment to Randy's tactics. That makes me think he's a mental midget. That much im sure of.

[québecwarrior]

Theres no denying Gonzaga's abilities. He's a massive heavy with awesome power great striking and a very good ground game. The problem is he's weak mentally. Theres no shame loosing to a guy like Carwin via hail mary. But his loss to Couture surprised me. He simply wilted. There was no fire in his belly at all or an adjustment to Randy's tactics. That makes me think he's a mental midget. That much im sure of.
I think he wilted vs Couture the moment he got his nose broke by that slam

[jimmie]

I think he wilted vs Couture the moment he got his nose broke by that slam

That and when he landed his head kick flush across Couture's head then Couture backs up shoots, takedown and pounds his face in.