Which fighters past or present had the best cardio?

[cotto20]

For me its salvador sanchez or carmen basilo

[JohnThomas1]

Sanchez for sure, Armstrong must have been freakish too.

[cotto20]

Sanchez for sure, Armstrong must have been freakish too.
i think it could be a prime armstrong, also i forgot aaron pryor who had unreal cardio

[JohnThomas1]

i think it could be a prime armstrong, also i forgot aaron pryor who had unreal cardio

Pryor's energy was great, but his fuel was suspect.

[anarci]

My Homey ZACK"ATTACK" PADILLA!!!!!!

[bodhi]

Rocky Marciano. Battling Nelson.

[anarci]

Ray Oliviera
Wayne Mccullough
Manny Pacquiao
Carmen Basillio
Johnny Tapia
Baby Jake Matalala
Melchor Cob Castro
Shane Mosley

[mcvey]

For me its salvador sanchez or carmen basilo

Armstrong stands foremost,he had a very slow heartbeat,and accelerated as a fight went on .
From what I have read I would put Greb in his class too,everyone else a notch below.

[Shake]

I think Patterson had really good conditioning as well.

[Unforgiven]

The best heart ?

[janitor]

Bat elson was abel to average 80+ punches per round over a 45 round fight.

Prety superhuman.

[Bill Butcher]

Armstrong & Sanchez spring to mind.

[GPater11093]

I once heard that Sanchezs heartbeat returned to its resting rate in between rounds. That ssome serious fitness if true.

He would probably be my pick. Basilio is a nother great pick as he also had great muscular endurance and seemed to be able to throw combos without knackering himself and then keep a high pace not many guys can do that its normally either or.

[teeto]

I once heard that Sanchezs heartbeat returned to its resting rate in between rounds. That ssome serious fitness if true.

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That's inhuman. I'm choosing to believe it.

[GPater11093]

That's inhuman. I'm choosing to believe it.

i can beleive it did you ever see Sanchez looked tired or out of breath?

[rekcutnevets]

Good posts everyone. I'll mention Ibeabuchi since no one else has. That was a high output against Tua.

[john garfield]

Tommy "Hurricane"Jackson. He had no pulse...or anything else human. When I looked in his eyes, I saw bluebirds.

[Blood Green]

Calzaghe is very close to the top.

[gooners!!]

Ray Mancini could go at a phenomenal rate, he set a white hot pace in all his fights.

[natonic]

Sanchez for sure. I'd throw in Monzon too despite the cigarette habit.

[Xplosive]

Calzaghe is very close to the top.

Fuck outta here!

[Bummy Davis]

Marciano,Calzage,Armstrong,Barry Mcguigan

[Xplosive]

Sal Sanchez, Ray Leonard, Armstong, Monzon, Holmes, and Duran all had amazing stamina.

[flamengo]

Tommy "Hurricane"Jackson. He had no pulse...or anything else human. When I looked in his eyes, I saw bluebirds.

JG.. I read many years ago that Jackson would run ten miles at pace each morning whilst in training camp... Thats enough to burn most people out before training begins.... :good

[john garfield]

JG.. I read many years ago that Jackson would run ten miles at pace each morning whilst in training camp... Thats enough to burn most people out before training begins.... :good

He used to show up at Stillmans wearing a horse's bridal.

[Tin_Ribs]

Fuck outta here!

I'm no Calzaghe arselicker, but the man had terrific cardiovascular endurance, whatever his other slight shortcomings. Even at 37 he was able to throw a 100 punches a round and still look fresh after the full 12.

He would've flourished in the 15 round era IMO.

But the gold standard has to be the likes of Sanchez, Basilio, Monzon, Armstrong and maybe even Griffith. Sanchez and Monzon were like bloody terminators.

[Tin_Ribs]

He used to show up at Stillmans wearing a horse's bridal.

:rofl

[john garfield]

:rofl

He was like a cymbal-clapping toy that wouldn't stop no matter how times it was smashed against the wall, T

[Manassa]

I'd love to have Salvador Sanchez' stamina. Over any other realistic attribute.

[ThinBlack]

Salvador Sanchez
Jimmy Carter
Wilfred Benitez
Carlos Monzon
Maxie Rosenbloom
Muhammad Ali.

[Duodenum]

In training, Sanchez would be told to target a specific heart rate for the next round of sparring, and he'd always hit the target. He actually used physician services and biofeedback in the course of his conditioning, and was interested in becoming a medical doctor himself upon retirement. He became so finely in tune with his body that HOF gridiron coach and sports commentator John Madden described him as the finest cardiovascularly trained athlete Madden ever knew in any field of sports competition upon Sal's untimely death. (He was such a clean liver that fast sports cars were his only indulgence, but that's what wound up killing him.) The most scientifically conditioned boxer of his era.

[Surf-Bat]

Harry Greb
Battling Nelson
Ad Wolgast
Stanley Ketchel
Frank Klaus
Billy Conn
Ace Hudkins
Rocky Marciano

[dpw417]

In training, Sanchez would be told to target a specific heart rate for the next round of sparring, and he'd always hit the target. He actually used physician services and biofeedback in the course of his conditioning, and was interested in becoming a medical doctor himself upon retirement. He became so finely in tune with his body that HOF gridiron coach and sports commentator John Madden described him as the finest cardiovascularly trained athlete Madden ever knew in any field of sports competition upon Sal's untimely death. (He was such a clean liver that fast sports cars were his only indulgence, but that's what wound up killing him.) The most scientifically conditioned boxer of his era.
Did not know that...Nice info!

[oli]

Joe Calzaghe had top cardio.

[Russell]

Antonio Margarito was an animal

[Russell]

Paul Williams as well

[ETM]

Felix Trinidad.

Running Marathons didnt hurt. He could fire wicked shots for 12 rounds and probably more if necessary. His conditioning was one of the reasons he was able to recover from knockdowns so often.

Also Gene Tunney.

He was able to stick and move all day.

[john garfield]

Probably Armstrong, Greb, "The Whitechapel Windmill, Jackie "The Kid" Berg 'n Aaron Pryor

[Duodenum]

He was like a cymbal-clapping toy that wouldn't stop no matter how times it was smashed against the wall, T

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[john garfield]

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Perfect depiction, D

[Ali_]

Ali.

[Flo_Raiden]

Rocky Marciano
Henry Armstrong
Salvador Sanchez
Aaron Pryor
Marvin Hagler
Vicente Saldivar
Joe Calzaghe
Manny Pacquiao
Sergio Martinez
Antonio Margarito
Juan Manuel Marquez

[fistycuffs]

Lamotta

[Saintpat]

Gotta thrown in a mention of John L. Sullivan

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Battling Nelson.

[mcvey]

For me its salvador sanchez or carmen basilo
Greb/Armstrong

[suriamarsuli]

Gotta thrown in a mention of John L. Sullivan

Does anybody have a link to his inerview about his training session?
I've read that he would mix running and walking in interval for 21 miles.

[Lobotomy]

Does anybody have a link to his interview about his training session?
I've read that he would mix running and walking in interval for 21 miles.Here's the classic article by Nellie Bly for the New York World when Sullivan was training for Kilrain during the summer of 1889:

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[Seamus]

Here are ones maybe not mentioned before:

Johnny Tapia
Ike Ibeabuchi
Joe Frazier
Jeff Fenech
Arturo Gatti
Battling Nelson

[Hannibal Barca]

On film Armstrong seems unsurpassed.

[suriamarsuli]

Here's the classic article by Nellie Bly for the New York World when Sullivan was training for Kilrain during the summer of 1889:

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Thanks.:happy

[Lobotomy]

Thanks.:happyWell, you're welcome, but some thoughtful comments about what you read will be the best thanks to offer.

He told Bly his target weight for Kilrain was 195, but he actually came in ten pounds heavier on July 8, 1889. Having come down from near 240 pounds, it still seems like 205 is remarkably high for a man standing 5'10-1/2" after that amount of training, but it got him through 75 grueling rounds. Note too that he mentions getting being tired and getting old, wanting this to be his last fight. He was pushing 31 at this stage, old for a prizefighter in this era. (Fitz was a freak, an absolute freak by the standards of the late 1800s and early 1900s.) Sullivan would absolutely be a heavyweight in this day and age at his peak. (For whatever it's worth, Sullivan weighed 193 for Ryan to Paddy's 195 when John L. won the LPR Championship in nine rounds on February 7, 1882 at age 23. Getting under 200 by 1889 was probably unrealistic. 205 is impressive enough, and he did the job. This was a thickly built guy.)

[knockout artist]

Joe Calzaghe

[burt bienstock]

Greb/Armstrong
Mc,you beat me to the punch:good