Sam Peter vs. Jameel McCline is Official!

[bryan_74]

As previously reported on other threads here at ESB. Just thought I would put it on the front page.

Source: sho.com

[Cruiser1]

Great news, this is a much better fight than what Golota and McCall fanboys were hoping for.

Why? McCall has the chin to hang with Peter and has beaten some decent fighters in the past 5 or 6 years (Diaz, Sam, Akinwande, Saleta) which is better than what Briggs has done lately. Not to mention the fact that McCall fights like he actually wants to be in the ring whereas McCline is a giant who fights like a mouse. This is not a better fight than Peter/McCall but this is what we're getting so this is what I'll watch.

[Loufatski]

Why? McCall has the chin to hang with Peter and has beaten some decent fighters in the past 5 or 6 years (Diaz, Sam, Akinwande, Saleta) which is better than what Briggs has done lately. Not to mention the fact that McCall fights like he actually wants to be in the ring whereas McCline is a giant who fights like a mouse. This is not a better fight than Peter/McCall but this is what we're getting so this is what I'll watch.

Yep, all about "C" level fighters.

[PATSYS]

:patsch

[Cruiser1]

Bullshit! I have no idea why McCall gets so much credit here. The guy is old and slow as fuck now-a-days and he's never had great defensive skills so I don't see him being able to fend off much of what Peter throws his way. That's an easy win for Peter IMO.

While McCline is a bonafide top 10 contender who is quicker than Peter in almost every way and has much more refined skill. Trust me this is going to be a much better scrap than people give it credit for.

McCall gets credit because he should have been gone years ago but is still competitive and always comes into fights in shape. Throw in an iron chin and you've got a handful for anybody.

McCline is a bonafide top 10 contender??? Stick to the other weight classes cuz u don't know shit about the heavyweights. Wlad, Peter, Oleg, Byrd, Ibragimov, Chagaev, Valuev, Dimitrenko, Virchis, Brock, Lyhakovich, and shot Brewster are all better than McCline so how does he make the top 10? By the way, McCline is 0-4 against that list. Peter is gonna win this fight and easily I might add.

[MrMagic]

How is this great?
A champion stepping to the side, getting stripped from his titles and Peter jumps in and takes it, "defends" against Jameel McCline who does not deserve it? Well, Peter will knock him out and people will be praising Peter as if he beaten the #1 guy out there.
I'm not nagging on Peter because he obviously has nothing to do with this, but heavyweight is getting worse and worse, Ruiz, Rahman and now Peter gets their titles outside the ring, it's a shame, it's not great.

[bachatu]

Something is better than nothing. Could have been no fight on Oct 6th and peter having to wait another 2 months to fight someone else who then pulls out with a heart injury.

[bachatu]

How is this great?
A champion stepping to the side, getting stripped from his titles and Peter jumps in and takes it, "defends" against Jameel McCline who does not deserve it? Well, Peter will knock him out and people will be praising Peter as if he beaten the #1 guy out there.
I'm not nagging on Peter because he obviously has nothing to do with this, but heavyweight is getting worse and worse, Ruiz, Rahman and now Peter gets their titles outside the ring, it's a shame, it's not great.

Peter is not the one pulling out of fights. He has been getting royale screwed since he defeated Toney the first time. People are just happy he is able to get a fight.

[MrMagic]

Peter is not the one pulling out of fights. He has been getting royale screwed since he defeated Toney the first time. People are just happy he is able to get a fight.
Yeah, Peter deserves credit.
I'm sad for him.. he has to take the belt outside the ring, it's not the way he wanted I assume.

[Tuavale]

McCline will be banged out in brutal fashion.:smoke :smoke

[TheGoldenBoy#1]

best of a bad situation i guess. At least mccline should be in shape seeing as he was training for the klitschko bout.

[SteveO]

Same by TKO but I would be pretty happy for McCline who has been on the outside looking in for most of his career to get something meaningful. A win in this case, since I don't think he's going to make a lot of money.

[Grabonator]

Bullshit! I have no idea why McCall gets so much credit here. The guy is old and slow as fuck now-a-days and he's never had great defensive skills so I don't see him being able to fend off much of what Peter throws his way. That's an easy win for Peter IMO.

While McCline is a bonafide top 10 contender who is quicker than Peter in almost every way and has much more refined skill. Trust me this is going to be a much better scrap than people give it credit for.

Well i absolutely agree. McClien also has a good chin and is still a verry good fighter, maybe still Top10. Much better than Golota or McCall these days. And i want to see McCall vs. Gomez.

[Grabonator]

How is this great?
A champion stepping to the side, getting stripped from his titles and Peter jumps in and takes it, "defends" against Jameel McCline who does not deserve it? Well, Peter will knock him out and people will be praising Peter as if he beaten the #1 guy out there.
I'm not nagging on Peter because he obviously has nothing to do with this, but heavyweight is getting worse and worse, Ruiz, Rahman and now Peter gets their titles outside the ring, it's a shame, it's not great.

Peter only gets the belt if maskaev doesnt fight him in the next 90 days if im informed rightly.

[Grabonator]

Sam Peter by brutal KO.

That would be quiet impressive. McCline was stopped 2 times, first in his second pro fight when he fought a guy with a 6-0-0 record (remember McCline had no big amateur-career) and the other one was against Wladimir Klitschko in round 10. Valuev doesnt count cause it was a serious knee in jury which stopped McCline, not Valuev.
This fight COULD go the distance, at least i would not be suprised if it does.

[DamonD]

Agreed, McCline at least tends to be a fairly durable guy so a knockout by Peter would be valuable.

I'm just glad they've been able to get a fight sorted for this date...bad enough that Maskaev-Peter fell through, if there would've been no fight at all and the card collapsed it would've been a big waste.

I'd rather someone like McCall or Virchis had a shot but I appreciate the time issues involved here. So it's not too bad as a short-term deal.

I'd be happier still if they didn't make Peter interim champion yet and had this fight for the vacant WBC title, though!

[pipe wrenched]

Peter Ko 4.

[brooklyn1550]

Peter TKO6

[Illmatic]

Peter is scared shitless of Ruiz.

[Ambition_Def]

Peter is scared shitless of Ruiz.

:lol:

Anyways!

I like Sam to win here by late stoppage. McCline is durable for a bit, but tends to get exhausted against big punchers and guys who can get to his chin. Brock was a bit too small and same goes for Byrd.

Expect McCline to be VERY timid going into this one. He'll get anxious and gas out by the 10th.

If Sam drops him in the first 3-4 rounds, consider it a statement made.

[Loufatski]

Peter is scared shitless of Ruiz.

Ruiz should be banned from boxing.

[box03]

Mccline is a solid fighter who dont go down easy, but in this fight I think that will change. Peter will come out bombs away on Mccline missing most of his punches and connecting with a few, I see Peter hurting Mccline early but not able to finish him till late in the fight. Peter wins by 10th round TKO.

[CHEF]

Great news for the division and for boxing...

Peter is going to be an honorable champion - not backing down from anyone...

he and his camp are looking for excuses to fight as opposed to many others who look for excuses to duck out of fights...

respect to Peter and his camp.

Peter will beat McCline setting up a unification bout in '08 between him and Vlad that will be the best fight the division has seen in years.

Peter and his people "honarable"?...What a joke. Duva, Don King, and Honrable cannot be used in the same sentince. Duva and Don King will keep picking lower level fighters for Peter to fight now that he has a belt. They will NEVER face Klitschko because they know Peter cannot beat him. They will pick "B" or "C" fighters so they can hold the belt for as long as they can.

GO McCline!!!!!!!:bbb :bbb :bbb

[lzolnier]

Jameel McCline 's record or skill set in no way shape or form suggest that he is a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota. Unline McCline, Golota has NEVER lost to a bum or anyone outside of the top ten ranking, in his entire career. Let's recount Jameel's illustrious record of losing in chronological order, shall we:

Gary Bell 6-0-0,
Greg Pickrom 6-1-1,
Wladimir Klitschko 39-1-0,
Chris Byrd 37-2-1,
Calvin Brock 24-0-0,
Zuri Lawrence 19-10-4
Nikolay Valuev 45-0-0

To suggest that McCline is a better quality opponent than either Golota or McCall is an insult to the truth.

[Cruiser1]

Throw in his iron chin and all you have if a slow, midly skilled heavyweight who is years past his prime who could only go rounds with Peter or any top heavyweight for that matter, and not beat them. He'd be a handful for any heavyweight my ass. Most would outwork him or give him a complete beating.

McCline on the other hand was considered a credible opponent for former heavyweight champ Vitali Klitschko, but now he's somehow not good enough for the unbeatable Samuel Peter?:roll: Please. Jameel is fighting as good as ever right now and should give Peter a good challenge throughout, and he would do a lot more than simply go rounds liek McCall, he'd box and move and give the plodding Sam some trouble trying to tack him down.

Ok u said in ur other post that McCline is a bonafide top 10 fighter yet I easily gave u 12 other fighters who are better (4 of whom own victories against Jameel).

Now u bring up the Vitali fight. Do u even know why McCline was chosen for that fight? Because he's a name fighter who is good enough to give Vitali rounds but not good enough nor tough enough to actually beat him. It wasn't a title fight either by the way and the Peter fight is. McCline lucked out to get this fight.

Your other statement that McCline is fighting as good as he ever has right now is utterly ridiculous and groundless. He beat Terry Smith. Big deal. Rob Calloway just pulled that off recently. McCline also lost to Zuri Lawrence not too long ago. Like I said, stick to the lower weight classes. Leave the heavyweight talk to the people who are familiar with it.

[SteveO]

Losing to Zuri Lawrence...eek. The most featherfisted of the HW's.

[lzolnier]

Losing to Zuri Lawrence...eek. The most featherfisted of the HW's.

It was a UD too, so everyone was in agreement that night. It wasn't even a close fight judging by the cards: 97-93, 97-93, 90-100.

Honestly, people's recent romanticism with McCline can only be explained by his two half-decent rounds with Valuev and his unfortunate finish in that bout. Outside of this rather pathetic achievement, there is nothing to be impressed about this overblown, huffing-puffing fringe contender. He sure as hell is not a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota, because his biggest successes have been smaller and his biggest failures greater and more frequent, than either of those fighters. McCline's supporters are ,like their fighter, full of hot air.

[Boxfan1]

Maybe Jameel Decline will not be inclined to get reclined in his bout with the Nigerian Frankenstein.

[fightingmajor]

McCline is a tougher fight for Peter than his original.

[Asterion]

Peter UD12

[joeboxer]

did anyone catch the wbc statement on mccline...its on a popular boxing news website (starts with f and ends with news). it talks about how Mccline won the first two rounds vs valuev before he hurt his knee....newsflash wbc, valuev was ahead 20-18 on two score cards and 19-19 on the third. i can see how people would say mccline won round two(i had it valuev but it was close). i also thought mccline was winning round 3. my point is that the wbc tries to rewrite history by saying mccline won the first two rounds...when the score cards, and almost no one thinks he did. do they honestly think we're that stupid? i guess we are if anyone pays for that fight. Mccline didn't deserve the valuev title shot much less a second straight title shot.

[SteveO]

Maybe Jameel Decline will not be inclined to get reclined in his bout with the Nigerian Frankenstein.

You're good with words.

One might say...fine. :good

[Ivo]

It will not be a walk in the park for Peter as some here suggest. If we ignore McCline\\\'s first few fights, he was stopped only by Wladimir Klitschko. In fact he did not come out after the break. Peter cannot hit harder than Klitschko. He is not that big puncher. His punches are some big loops. McCline will be a real test for Peter. It is not like fighting the overweight 5\\\'10\\\" Toney and basically loosing the first encounter.

It is another question how will McCline\\\'s knee act or if he deserves that shot.

[lzolnier]

It will not be a walk in the park for Peter as some here suggest. If we ignore McCline\\\'s first few fights, he was stopped only by Wladimir Klitschko. In fact he did not come out after the break. Peter cannot hit harder than Klitschko. He is not that big puncher. His punches are some big loops. McCline will be a real test for Peter. It is not like fighting the overweight 5\\\'10\\\" Toney and basically loosing the first encounter.

It is another question how will McCline\\\'s knee act or if he deserves that shot.

Following Klitschko, there is a boat load of improvement and McCline's record, post Klit, speaks for itself:

Chris Byrd (37-2-1), loss
Calvin Brock (24-0-0), loss
Zuri Lawrence (19-10-4), loss
Nikolay Valuev (45-0-0), loss

Most notable wins following Klitschko: Terry Smith, Rob Calloway, Cedric Boswell and a bunch of other obscurities, from the obscurity bin.

Yep, this guy will give Peter a real run for his money. :gayfight

[Cruiser1]

No asshole, don't tell me to stick to other weight clases when you're the one who's touting a man who's been at journeyman status for the majority of his career. You're just along with all those dellusional fans who talk up this guy simply because he has a good chin. WOW, big woopidy-fucking-doo! There's also complete bums with awful records in any weight division that have never ben KOed before but that doesn't mean they're any good.

What does McCall bring to the table that McCline can't? Jameel is quicker on his feet which would give the slow footed plodder Peter problems trying to track him down, and even though he doesn't fight like a big man, McCline is still a huge heavyweight at around 260 so no way Samuel can bully his ass around with ease. McCline is also much younger so his activity would be twice that of Oliver's and he's also been in there with much greater opposition as of late which puts him at and edge over McCall as well.

And yes McCline is fighting as good as ever lately as he's been fighting on his toes and throwing more combinations like he did versus Terry Smith and Valuev before the fight was stopped. So don't try and downplay those fights just because your boy McCall didn't get the fight against Peter.

Bringing out the profanity now. I really don't know what to say here cuz u seem to think Jameel McCline is the second coming. You are in the minority there cuz most people on this site would have rathered somebody else whether it be McCall or not. I don't know where u've been but in case u missed it Jameel McCline lost to Zuri Lawrence not too long ago. Now he's in a title fight cuz he split 2 rounds with Valuev and beat feather fisted Smith? Absolutely ridiculous. McCall's not my boy. I never had much regard for him but I think he's much more deserving than a man who was shaken by Chris Byrd and who covered up everytime Wladimir Kltischko threw a feint. You can talk about McCline's size all you want but he is what he is and that is definitely not a fighter worthy of a 4th title shot. Once again, stick to the other weight classes. I'm sure you can find the equivalent of a Jameel McCline somewhere below 200 that u can hype.

[DamonD]

McCline was considered a decent opponent for Vitali because Vitali had about 3 years' worth of ring rust. As an opponent for an active heavyweight like Peter, not so much. I quite like McCline, but more as a person than a boxer.

Better than no fight, though.

[Max Molyneux]

ptNAlNEB7Kw

:rofl This Is what he's probably singing knowing McCline was chosen to fight him Instead of a real threat.

[Cruiser1]

If you like to insult me by telling me that I don't know anything about the heavyweight division then I'll use all the profanity that i want you fuckwit, because that's exactly what you are, an idiot fanboy who still can't give me any real technical facts as to why McCall would be better than McCline. And there are plenty of knowledgeable boxing fans here who think that Jameel is a much better suited that that old washed up journeyman McCall, and even if I am in the minority all it means is that there's a great abundance of Oliver fanboys like you infesting this site. There's a huge amount of posters here who also thought Golota would be a great opponent, pffft,:roll: so does that mean they're in the right? I don't think so, all that means is that they're a lot more loons here like you rather than experienced and knockwledgeable fans.

McCline is bigger, younger, quicker, about as skilled, and depite what you think he does take a prety gpod shot. You bring up the fact that Jameel fought scared against Wlad, and what did McCall do against Lewis?! He cried like a sissy 10 year old girl! So what'ss worse? Face it man other than the fact that you're one of these McCall fanboy types who for some inexplicable reason talk up this man because he has a good chin you still haven't brought anything to my attention as to why he's a better opponent, and you never will because there is no argument for such statement. McCline is better than old man McCall, nuff said.

I've never seen anything like it. I have been focusing on why McCline isn't a good opponent and u keep going back to McCall and how I am one of his fanboys when this is clearly not the case. I don't understand you. Take a look at my other post. I said I never had much regard for McCall. I didn't build him up to be anything great. He is what he is and u seem to think I'm some big fan of his. Do u even know why he cried against Lewis you dumbass? Because he was dragged out of rehab to fight when he was clearly in no condition to do so. When Jameel McCline gets knocked out you should take your sorry ass and hide in some crevice somewhere because u have shown yourself to have zero credibility. Zero. By the way I'm gonna give u ur stupid technical facts right now. McCall is 10-0-0-1 in his last 11 fights and McCline is 7-4. Hasim Rahman is a former 2-time world champion so he could have been plugged in. Vladimir Virchis, the hard hitting Ukranian (who u probably never even heard of until this fight came up) has 1 loss on his record and is a viable contender for anyone right now. Jameel McCline is a waste of a fight and when Peter knocks him out it will mean nothing.