Paul Smith V Tony Dodson

[ciaran]

heard this is being touted for feb in the echo arena but i dont think it will be a good fight for the fans i dont reckon dodson is at the standard of smith and would have him out of there in 4 rounds id of rather seen him get it on with tony quigley again heard a few rumours that quigleys stepping down to middleweight now because he never got the rematch

i hope in feb on the bill they have more or less the same fighters such as ste and liam smith bellew selkirk ect....

[Top Dog]

Dodson aint in the class of Smith? Your kidding right?

And Quig should drop down cause Smith aint gonna give him a rematch cause he is too dodgy a defence, plus Quig is a bit of a porker and could do with dropping the weight and stirring things up.

[Mandanda]

Dodson can beat Smith...it's a fight i wanna see. The build up would be nice to see.

[ciaran]

i dont think dodson is to be honest and reckon smith would have him out in about 4/5 rounds dodsons been inactive since the quigley fight last march that will be 11 months out of the ring unlike smith whos been fighting regulary

[NO MAS]

Would make a great card at the Echo Arena...it's in the middle of town too ain't it?...how far from Lime Street...?...:think

[Mandanda]

Smith would have to pull out some power he not really shown consistently at super middle against a tough opponent in Dodson. I agree about the inactivity but Smith will have to fight a lot better then last time to stop him.

[ciaran]

Would make a great card at the Echo Arena...it's in the middle of town too ain't it?...how far from Lime Street...?...:think

yeh mate its on the docks about a 10/15 min walk from lime street

[NO MAS]

yeh mate its on the docks about a 10/15 min walk from lime street

Nice one...:good

[Top Dog]

i dont think dodson is to be honest and reckon smith would have him out in about 4/5 rounds dodsons been inactive since the quigley fight last march that will be 11 months out of the ring unlike smith whos been fighting regulary

Smith showed in his last fight that he is over-rated i.m.o.

[Dan684]

Smith's shown his level now. Dodson would be a fairly hard fight for him.

[NO MAS]

yeh mate its on the docks about a 10/15 min walk from lime street

Smith's shown his level now. Dodson would be a fairly hard fight for him.

:good

[Primadonna Kool]

I rekon i coud beat Paul Smith...:lol:

[Decy]

I rekon i coud beat Paul Smith...:lol:

Twat

[achillesthegreat]

Smith isn't anything special. Dodson was outpointing Quigley big time. He could do the same to Smith.

[robpalmer135]

Quigley should drop down to fight Barker.

[Bodysnatcher]

I could easily see Dodson outboxing Smith.

[Dan684]

I rekon i coud beat Paul Smith...:lol:

Twat

Harsh that there Decy, I dont think its a bad call :rofl

On a serious note though. Smith wants to be thanking his lucky stars he has ****** on his side. That fight with Quigley (Even though I had Smith up by 1) could have easily gone to Quigley which speaks volumes about Smith considering it was a cagefighters 17 fight across the corner !

British is his maximum level. He needs to fight a complete BUM in order to bring back anything higher than the Lonsdale. Not saying the Lonsdale is anything to be ashamed of - I'd give my left arm to have won it - but when the words Paul Smith + World Title are put in the same sentence somebody needs a word with themselves

[skel1983]

I dont get this not in Smiths class?? Smith has to be one of the most overrated fighters in the uk, hes crap, Dobson and Smith is probably a 50/50 fight.

[Primadonna Kool]

Twat

I was jokin..

But..

If someone said i had to fight Paul Smith tommorow, i would'nt loose any sleep...!

He's hardly Roy Jones...!

I out weigh him by over a stone, and i think i'm in better shape than him.

He's abit tubby a SuperMiddle Weight...

I'm not kissing no one's ass...

[avidlemon]

Dodson would be a hard fight (by the way it wont happen), but i think Smith would beat him, and has another level or two to go up from british level imo.
Didn't fight great against quigley, but i had him 2 up going into the final round.
Not a lot of love for paul here currently.
I can understand where the opinions are coming from, as some (and only some) performances have been slightly lacklustre. But Paul merits his british title currently.
I reckon, if he shows he is good enough to win the lonsdale outright, by beating the best british opposition out there, and he gets to fight at euro level, then people should start giving him his dues.
I feel he can acheive this.
Smigga v Dodson = smigga late stoppage

[bennie]

Paul Smith defends his newly won British super-middleweight title in an all-Liverpool encounter with Tony Dodson in February.
Smith won the title with a split decision over Tony Quigley in another Scouse derby in Liverpool last month – the same Quigley who had stopped Dodson in the 12th and last round of a thriller seven months earlier, so one would presume Smith holds an obvious edge going into this. Styles make fights, however, and Smith did not convince against Quigley, in a disappointing affair, whereas Dodson took Quigley to the well before his own well ran dry.
Smith has failed to push on since appearing on Contender III in the States in 2007, where injuries essentially ruled him out of the series after one winning contest. In those days Paul looked like one of the brightest prospects in Britain but then came a shock setback at the hands of grizzled Coventry southpaw Steve Bendall last year. Clever matchmaking since and big promotional backing brought him back but, despite his British title, little else about the 27-year-old today suggests he will develop into a world class pro, although he biffs heavily to the body and brings undoubted strength to every fight.
The same could be argued of Dodson, of course, who lost in three rounds to Carl Froch when he stepped up back in 2006 (from a body shot, which will interest Team Smith) and is now pushing 30, a pro since 1999. However, Dodson, a former holder of the British belt, is probably at the same level as Smith. This gives him a real shout and guarantees a cracking match in which the younger, fresher Smith has the strength and stamina to ultimately prevail.

[hit me HARDER]

So is the fight confirmed? I was thinking Frank was doing all in his power to get the WBO strap on Smith as soon as possible.

Credit to Smith for taking the fight on if so.

[robpalmer135]

Paul Smith defends his newly won British super-middleweight title in an all-Liverpool encounter with Tony Dodson in February.
Smith won the title with a split decision over Tony Quigley in another Scouse derby in Liverpool last month – the same Quigley who had stopped Dodson in the 12th and last round of a thriller seven months earlier, so one would presume Smith holds an obvious edge going into this. Styles make fights, however, and Smith did not convince against Quigley, in a disappointing affair, whereas Dodson took Quigley to the well before his own well ran dry.
Smith has failed to push on since appearing on Contender III in the States in 2007, where injuries essentially ruled him out of the series after one winning contest. In those days Paul looked like one of the brightest prospects in Britain but then came a shock setback at the hands of grizzled Coventry southpaw Steve Bendall last year. Clever matchmaking since and big promotional backing brought him back but, despite his British title, little else about the 27-year-old today suggests he will develop into a world class pro, although he biffs heavily to the body and brings undoubted strength to every fight.
The same could be argued of Dodson, of course, who lost in three rounds to Carl Froch when he stepped up back in 2006 (from a body shot, which will interest Team Smith) and is now pushing 30, a pro since 1999. However, Dodson, a former holder of the British belt, is probably at the same level as Smith. This gives him a real shout and guarantees a cracking match in which the younger, fresher Smith has the strength and stamina to ultimately prevail.

your a fucking geek

[avidlemon]

still can't see this happening to be honest.
smigga has too much. although he hasn't pushed on as expected, still expect him to be at least euro level within 18 months

[BURNLEYBLUE]

your a fucking geek
:nonoOut of order. Bennie's boxing knowledge is encyclafuckinpedic:yep
He knows more about the game than you'll ever know pal:good

[robpalmer135]

:nonoOut of order. Bennie's boxing knowledge is encyclafuckinpedic:yep
He knows more about the game than you'll ever know pal:good

never said it wasn't. but why respond to every thread like your writing in the gaurdian.

infact ive never seen him put his opinion forward, just state facts about the fighters most already know. pal

[hit me HARDER]

Smith vs Dodson in Stanley Park like Neary/Holligan would be absolutely huge.

In an ideal world, I'd love to see Smith get the WBO and defend against Dodson, be nice to see Tony with a World strap if he could accomplish it, he's been in a good few wars.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

never said it wasn't. but why respond to every thread like your writing in the gaurdian.

infact ive never seen him put his opinion forward, just state facts about the fighters most already know. pal
I think the final sentence that says Smith would ultimately prevail, is an opinon :huh I enjoy Bennie's posts mate and for you to call him a fuckin geek is a little disrespectfull. If you dont like me calling you pal, pal. I could throw quite a few other options at you if you prefer. Just trying to be friendly:good

[skel1983]

Smith vs Dodson in Stanley Park like Neary/Holligan would be absolutely huge.

In an ideal world, I'd love to see Smith get the WBO and defend against Dodson, be nice to see Tony with a World strap if he could accomplish it, he's been in a good few wars.


Get the WBO Title?? Im I missing something here is there another Paul Smith from Liverpool we know nothing about??

Smith is fucking crap no offence to the bloke but I only speak what I see he struggles to beat crap fighters who are nowhere near world level he lost to steve fucking Bendall ffs please people wake up smell the coffee!!

[saturday_kid]

So is this on then, if so Dodson UD for me.

[avidlemon]

i take it all back about it not being on, it is defo on. Big smigga win coming up. late stoppage comin up!

[ciaran]

heard a little rumours about this card in feb nathan cleverly is to vacate the commonwealth title and tony bellew will be fight for it on the card plus ste smith will be fighting for the english title

[PaddyD1983]

If the Dodson that fought Quigley shows up for this one then it's Dodson UD for me. Have to see how much Dodson has got left though after all the time out.

Alot of disrespect here for Smith. Seems a little harsh. I wanted Quigley to beat him last time out, but I had Smith two up overall. Could have easily gone either way, but the lad won the belt and deserves a bit of respect.

Doesnt Magee want to fight for this belt again? I know he's going for the EBU in Jan, but surely he's front of the queue after that? More money in a Brit title than a vacant European I would have though?

[royalt0208]

heard a little rumours about this card in feb nathan cleverly is to vacate the commonwealth title and tony bellew will be fight for it on the card plus ste smith will be fighting for the english title

That sounds great I checked out the list of candidates for the commonwealth recently and Tony wasn't on the Light Heavies list of contenders but JJ Ojuderie was :blood I hope that doesn't stand in his way of getting a shot at the vacant title but I would be extremely shocked if he was denied a shot.
If Frank is brave a good move would be to put Tony in with the Aussie Tim Bell he is ranked in the top 15 for the WBA and is on the list of contenders, he has experience but most importantly is clearly beatable with a record of 17-5 he would prove a stiff test for Bomber and in my mind would be the perfect opponent make it happen Frank.

[royalt0208]

If the Dodson that fought Quigley shows up for this one then it's Dodson UD for me. Have to see how much Dodson has got left though after all the time out.

Alot of disrespect here for Smith. Seems a little harsh. I wanted Quigley to beat him last time out, but I had Smith two up overall. Could have easily gone either way, but the lad won the belt and deserves a bit of respect.

Doesnt Magee want to fight for this belt again? I know he's going for the EBU in Jan, but surely he's front of the queue after that? More money in a Brit title than a vacant European I would have though?

Probably he won't exactly be close to a world title shot if he wins the title, with two of the titles (most importantly the WBC) being tied into the super six and one held in North America where he isn't known I would say he will still have quite a lot of work to before he gets a shot at the title and a fight with the winner of Smith-Dodson would do decent money.

[DON1]

Dobson in his prime would gooble Smith up. Dobson is a bit washed up now and Smith is a bit fresher. In saying that Smith is an extemely average boxer, if Dobson fancies it on the day he can take it.

[TONY DODSON]

Dobson in his prime would gooble Smith up. Dobson is a bit washed up now and Smith is a bit fresher. In saying that Smith is an extemely average boxer, if Dobson fancies it on the day he can take it.
shit like this make me laugh how the hell can i be washed up when my last fight was probably one of my best i havent been out of the gym since and will be more than ready when this happens and for the record its DODSON you guys carnt even spell my name properly let alone jude when iam washed up or not quigley got lucky last time after me dominateing all the fight and probably setting a pace that not many super middles could deal with or match so all you lot WHO DOUBT and HATE keep doing it cAUSE its putting a load of wood on my fire keep doing it i love it

[Mazallan]

Dodson is still a huge threat domestically. I can still see him beating Smith. We are very lucky to have a bunch of fighters at a division at the same time that really want to fight each other. Glad to see Dilks in the title action too, hopefully him vs Dodson next year.

[Top Dog]

shit like this make me laugh how the hell can i be washed up when my last fight was probably one of my best i havent been out of the gym since and will be more than ready when this happens and for the record its DODSON you guys carnt even spell my name properly let alone jude when iam washed up or not quigley got lucky last time after me dominateing all the fight and probably setting a pace that not many super middles could deal with or match so all you lot WHO DOUBT and HATE keep doing it cAUSE its putting a load of wood on my fire keep doing it i love it


Well done big fella, get into these know fuck all retards. I'm hoping Smith grows a pair of balls and give you a chance, I cant see him taking the kind of punishment you gave Quig, mid round stoppage for me.:yep

[TONY DODSON]

Well done big fella, get into these know fuck all retards. I'm hoping Smith grows a pair of balls and give you a chance, I cant see him taking the kind of punishment you gave Quig, mid round stoppage for me.:yep
And the truth will set you free!!!!!!!! lmao

[Top Dog]

And the truth will set you free!!!!!!!! lmao

:lol::lol::lol: Most excellent retort my good fellow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if we keep the slagging going it may help him grow a pair, instead of those wee tiny hairyless baws of his:D

[DON1]

shit like this make me laugh how the hell can i be washed up when my last fight was probably one of my best i havent been out of the gym since and will be more than ready when this happens and for the record its DODSON you guys carnt even spell my name properly let alone jude when iam washed up or not quigley got lucky last time after me dominateing all the fight and probably setting a pace that not many super middles could deal with or match so all you lot WHO DOUBT and HATE keep doing it cAUSE its putting a load of wood on my fire keep doing it i love it

No disrespect intended Tony but if you read the whole comment you would retract your statement. My opinion is that the last fight took alot out of you fella, thats just an opinion by someone who has followed this sport for 20plus years it was a war, you are a Warrior. You have had a great career and been a worthy Champ. Maybe 'washed up' is a tad harsh, maybe the wrong term, but as I said, at your peak you vs Smith would be a non contest, you would break him. Also if you read the last sentence I said that if you fancied it you would take Smith. But lets be honest boxing is all about timing. Im im not a hater mate, Im actually a fan. Good Luck to you.

[DON1]

Well done big fella, get into these know fuck all retards. I'm hoping Smith grows a pair of balls and give you a chance, I cant see him taking the kind of punishment you gave Quig, mid round stoppage for me.:yep

Retard?? Fella, read the initial whole comment before jumping on Tony's balls.

[hit me HARDER]

Get the WBO Title?? Im I missing something here is there another Paul Smith from Liverpool we know nothing about??

Smith is fucking crap no offence to the bloke but I only speak what I see he struggles to beat crap fighters who are nowhere near world level he lost to steve fucking Bendall ffs please people wake up smell the coffee!!

Yeah, you're missing something. Capturing the WBO SMW Title is not equivalent to beating Ali at this moment in time, and Smith is next in line for a shot by the looks of it. I originally thought (with ****** involved) he'd be straight in for having a crack at it, but obviously not as he's taking on Tony now instead.

Great domestic dust-up, can't wait.

[Dan684]

shit like this make me laugh how the hell can i be washed up when my last fight was probably one of my best i havent been out of the gym since and will be more than ready when this happens and for the record its DODSON you guys carnt even spell my name properly let alone jude when iam washed up or not quigley got lucky last time after me dominateing all the fight and probably setting a pace that not many super middles could deal with or match so all you lot WHO DOUBT and HATE keep doing it cAUSE its putting a load of wood on my fire keep doing it i love it

:rant:rant

[Dan684]

Well done big fella, get into these know fuck all retards. I'm hoping Smith grows a pair of balls and give you a chance, I cant see him taking the kind of punishment you gave Quig, mid round stoppage for me.:yep

:smh

[Top Dog]

Retard?? Fella, read the initial whole comment before jumping on Tony's balls.

No, not you specifically, other guys on :goodthe thread ripping Dodson a new one, out of order.

[Top Dog]

:smh


Och away and dont talk pish, just cause I think the guys a good fighter and say so, I'm an arse licker, I must remember that when you say someone is a good fighter, memory bank locked and stored, fudd.

[s23041983]

cant wait for this fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[s23041983]

shit like this make me laugh how the hell can i be washed up when my last fight was probably one of my bi havent been out of the gym since and will be more than ready when this est happens and for the record its DODSON you guys carnt even spell my name properly let alone jude when iam washed up or not quigley got lucky last time after me dominateing all the fight and probably setting a pace that not many super middles could deal with or match so all you lot WHO DOUBT and HATE keep doing it cAUSE its putting a load of wood on my fire keep doing it i love it
how can ya have not been out the gym when your always in here arguing with the fans??? :tong

only messin DOBSON!! :rofl

lookin forward to the fight!! i know youll give us a good one!!:good

[skel1983]

Yeah, you're missing something. Capturing the WBO SMW Title is not equivalent to beating Ali at this moment in time, and Smith is next in line for a shot by the looks of it. I originally thought (with ****** involved) he'd be straight in for having a crack at it, but obviously not as he's taking on Tony now instead.

Great domestic dust-up, can't wait.


Your missing the point SMITH IS FUCKING SHIT!!!! Miranda will be the WBO champ next and we know what Miranda did to that shit excuse for a fighter Banks who Smith went hell and back with.

Imagine Miranda v Smith hahahah Smith would be brutally killed.

[s23041983]

Well done big fella, get into these know fuck all retards. I'm hoping Smith grows a pair of balls and give you a chance, I cant see him taking the kind of punishment you gave Quig, mid round stoppage for me.:yep
so, smith has grown 'balls' ay? :patsch i heared its done for the end of february!!!

how can you say mid stoppage when smigga has never even been on his arse? not sayin it couldnt happen, but its a big statement to make!! gonna be a good fight tho... i hope!!!!:bbb

[howarya]

i thought ****** said there would be a rematch between quigley and smith

[Top Dog]

so, smith has grown 'balls' ay? :patsch i heared its done for the end of february!!!

how can you say mid stoppage when smigga has never even been on his arse? not sayin it couldnt happen, but its a big statement to make!! gonna be a good fight tho... i hope!!!!:bbb


Cool if this is true!:good Go on Dodson

[hit me HARDER]

Your missing the point SMITH IS FUCKING SHIT!!!! Miranda will be the WBO champ next and we know what Miranda did to that shit excuse for a fighter Banks who Smith went hell and back with.

Imagine Miranda v Smith hahahah Smith would be brutally killed.

You're a fucking retard son. And still missing the point.

[skel1983]

You're a fucking retard son. And still missing the point.


Hahaha know son your a fucking retard to think Paul Smith could win the WBO belt, Dodson wuill beat him ffs.

Get your cock out of his arse.

[hit me HARDER]

Hahaha know (no) son your (you're) a fucking retard to think Paul Smith could win the WBO belt, Dodson wuill (will) beat him ffs.

Get your cock out of his arse.

Still a fucking retard I see. Read my posts you fucking nob, I'm backing Dodson.

Do you even know who the WBO Champ is you fucking idiot?



And I'M the retard. Look for my corrections in your above post Forrest.

[ollyc]

Still a fucking retard I see. Read my posts you fucking nob, I'm backing Dodson.

Do you even know who the WBO Champ is you fucking idiot?



And I'M the retard. Look for my corrections in your above post Forrest.

Stieglitz is defending his title against Miranda next month. I can't see Smith beating either of them.

[hit me HARDER]

Stieglitz is defending his title against Miranda next month. I can't see Smith beating either of them.


I know that now. My original post was talking about Smith being more or less mandatory after he beat Quigley. I was saying what I would LIKE, in an ideal World, Smith picking up the WBO & defending against Dodson.

My point was, this fucking idiot was using the excuse that Smith was shit, there have been many 'shit' World titleists - and I COULD see Smith outpointing Stieglitz.

[hit me HARDER]

Best of luck in X Factor by the way, you're my fave, even if you have got a Bobby Charlton-esque combover.

[avidlemon]

Smith beats Dodson every day of the week, he would outpoint stieglitz, and have a tough night against miranda. I hope after seeing degale last night, people will get off their high horses, and recognise that he is WAY off title level.

[ollyc]

Smith beats Dodson every day of the week, he would outpoint stieglitz, and have a tough night against miranda. I hope after seeing degale last night, people will get off their high horses, and recognise that he is WAY off title level.

By this do you mean he would lose by knockout?

[avidlemon]

I think it could be a split points decision. Miranda can bang, and i would give him a knockout shot against any SMW in the world.
I have said before that i think if smith consolidates at domestic level, wins the lonsdale outright, and then fights for a euro, to sort of bed in fighting at championship distance, i can see him making a much more worhtwhile challenge at world level.
Don't get me wrong, i give him much more than a punchers chance, i just think it could be wrong for him at this moment in time

[Body Snatcher]

Spoke to Smigga last night and its on for Feb 20th at the Echo, cant wait!

[avidlemon]

Spoke to Smigga last night and its on for Feb 20th at the Echo, cant wait!

fucking brilliant. can't wait for it. Dodson think he has got this one in the bag already, he is going to get a shock

[Top Dog]

fucking brilliant. can't wait for it. Dodson think he has got this one in the bag already, he is going to get a shock


Your Smigga is over-rated pal, was shite in his last outing

[avidlemon]

Your Smigga is over-rated pal, was shite in his last outing

i was live at the fight mate.

By the way, i didn't claim ownership.

On a night where he wasn't at his best, he still came out on top, by two clear rounds on my card.

[skel1983]

i was live at the fight mate.

By the way, i didn't claim ownership.

On a night where he wasn't at his best, he still came out on top, by two clear rounds on my card.


Your mate got beat by Bendall ffs,and you think he outpoints stieglitz :patsch

Your mate won a dubious decision against David Banks who was owned by the one and only Peter Manfredo and was knocked out by Miranda in probably the best ko I have seen, Smith is dog shit he has beat no one, he won a skinny decision against Quigley who was totally showed up by a novice Nathen Cleverly, Beaton by Bendall who falls short of British class. You need to take them Smith tinted glasses off mate.

[skel1983]

I know that now. My original post was talking about Smith being more or less mandatory after he beat Quigley. I was saying what I would LIKE, in an ideal World, Smith picking up the WBO & defending against Dodson.

My point was, this fucking idiot was using the excuse that Smith was shit, there have been many 'shit' World titleists - and I COULD see Smith outpointing Stieglitz.

My grammer and English aint the best, but my point was dick head, Smith wouldnt beat Miranda or Stieglitz they are fighting for the strap yes?? Ok there you go. Smith is fucking wank wank wank wank, he struggles to beat the likes of Banks and Quigley ffs.

If you think Smith outpoints Stieglitz you need help he couldnt even outpoint local binman Bendall :patsch

[avidlemon]

Your mate got beat by Bendall ffs,and you think he outpoints stieglitz :patsch

Your mate won a dubious decision against David Banks who was owned by the one and only Peter Manfredo and was knocked out by Miranda in probably the best ko I have seen, Smith is dog shit he has beat no one, he won a skinny decision against Quigley who was totally showed up by a novice Nathen Cleverly, Beaton by Bendall who falls short of British class. You need to take them Smith tinted glasses off mate.

whatever, we have all got our opinions, and that is yours, and this is mine.
Just because someone does something to a fighter that someone else didn't doesn't mean fuck all.
Quigley was beaten by cleverly at LW, which he should never been fighting at. Can't defend the bendall decision, although, everyone journo, and ringsider said it was a wank decision.
Who said anything about him being a mate? I don't know him personally, and have never met him. I just see something in him that some don't.
Comes across well, HAS got skills, decent power and does want to challenge at a higher level.
You say about banks, being a dubious decision, and manfredo owning banks. That means fuck all Smith won and so did manfredo, albeit by different methods.
Smigga all the way! fuck the haters!

[s23041983]

whatever, we have all got our opinions, and that is yours, and this is mine.
Just because someone does something to a fighter that someone else didn't doesn't mean fuck all.
Quigley was beaten by cleverly at LW, which he should never been fighting at. Can't defend the bendall decision, although, everyone journo, and ringsider said it was a wank decision.
Who said anything about him being a mate? I don't know him personally, and have never met him. I just see something in him that some don't.
Comes across well, HAS got skills, decent power and does want to challenge at a higher level.
You say about banks, being a dubious decision, and manfredo owning banks. That means fuck all Smith won and so did manfredo, albeit by different methods.
Smigga all the way! fuck the haters!
i reckon smith has the tools to beat dodson, but will he use them?? i dont know!! a few years ago i would have said dodson has this in the bag, but one things for sure... dodsons gonna make it a fight!!! no excuses for smith this time, he needs to win and win outright!!! :pop

from what i hear, my mate knows tony dodson and hes said that dodson has dropped smigga a few times in sparring!!! so based on this info, i think either smigga late stopage or dodson early stoppage!!!

[Body Snatcher]

fucking brilliant. can't wait for it. Dodson think he has got this one in the bag already, he is going to get a shock

Fully agree mate, Smith usually fights to the level of the opposition (which he shouldnt do but he does) and i think he will win this one.

It will be a good fight, i enjoyed the Quigley fight live, but i can undertsand why people didnt enjoy it as much on TV as they didnt get the atmosphere and it was sloppy in spots but both guys showed tons of heart!

[Body Snatcher]

On a side note when i met him after the Enzo fight he was a top bloke and took some time out to chat with us, another example of boxers potentially being the most approachable sports stars out there!

[hit me HARDER]

My grammer and English aint the best, but my point was dick head, Smith wouldnt beat Miranda or Stieglitz they are fighting for the strap yes?? Ok there you go. Smith is fucking wank wank wank wank, he struggles to beat the likes of Banks and Quigley ffs.

If you think Smith outpoints Stieglitz you need help he couldnt even outpoint local binman Bendall :patsch

And Haye couldn't even beat Carl Thompson so he's got no chance of...

Oh wait. Your logic is fucked mate.

[TONY DODSON]

i have never dropped paul in sparring we have sparred on many occasions when he has needed some help and thats it dont believe any shit people tell you the fight is on and you are all entitled to your opinions which i apprecite what ever way you guys wanna call it but its like this .........AND THE NEW........ is what will happen come feb 20th hope you all enjoy it iam not going to come on here to dissrespect paul, at the end of the day he is a champion and as a champ he has my respect right up to the 1st bell then iam going to put that belt bk where it belongs

[Dan684]

^^^ In Liverpool ??? :lol:

[JCB123]

Tony,

I have heard that you helped Smith out in the past with sparring but when you have asked for a favour in return he had blanked you!! Is this true, if so why do you think he refused to help you when you were more than willing??

By the way mate good luck .................... AND THE NEW!!!!!!!!!

[hit me HARDER]

Stupid question to some, but not to me, in fact, very important.

Is Tony Dodson an Evertonian? I have no idea why I do not already know this.

I know his cousin Kev used to play for Everton (watched him boss the midfield in back-to-back games, Chelsea then Arsenal, so much potential back then) was at Swansea last I heard.

I'm backing Tony anyway, but just need to be 100% he won't be walking out to You'll Never Walk Alone.

[s23041983]

i have never dropped paul in sparring we have sparred on many occasions when he has needed some help and thats it dont believe any shit people tell you the fight is on and you are all entitled to your opinions which i apprecite what ever way you guys wanna call it but its like this .........AND THE NEW........ is what will happen come feb 20th hope you all enjoy it iam not going to come on here to dissrespect paul, at the end of the day he is a champion and as a champ he has my respect right up to the 1st bell then iam going to put that belt bk where it belongs
alright! nice one Tony! :good

[TONY DODSON]

Stupid question to some, but not to me, in fact, very important.

Is Tony Dodson an Evertonian? I have no idea why I do not already know this.

I know his cousin Kev used to play for Everton (watched him boss the midfield in back-to-back games, Chelsea then Arsenal, so much potential back then) was at Swansea last I heard.

I'm backing Tony anyway, but just need to be 100% he won't be walking out to You'll Never Walk Alone.
As a fighter and not realy in to football i have the excuse to say i support both because my cousin played for everton all the lads from the team are my freinds and have come on many occasions to support me so i offer that back when everton play but iam a born and bread liverpool fan and i know your all gonna say well you carnt do that .........BUT I CAN lol i will support any team from liverpool when there not playing each other cause iam a proud scouser and as for comeing out to you never walk alone NOT A CHANCE i want to get everybody in a mood for a war not put them to sleep GREAT song but not for a fight

[conan666]

Smith showed in his last fight that he is over-rated i.m.o.
smith is overrated! he said he couldnt get up for his last fight!!! who does he think he is? the lonsdale belt is a great title held in the past by fighters like randolph turpin,henry cooper,lennox lewis and joe calzaghe so who the fuck is the real gone kid to say he could get up for the brittish title.

[s23041983]

smith is overrated! he said he couldnt get up for his last fight!!! who does he think he is? the lonsdale belt is a great title held in the past by fighters like randolph turpin,henry cooper,lennox lewis and joe calzaghe so who the fuck is the real gone kid to say he could get up for the brittish title.
i agree!! not that hes overrated, but that he does need to watch his mouth and get off his high horse!!

[Top Dog]

i agree!! not that hes overrated, but that he does need to watch his mouth and get off his high horse!!


Well I agree he is over-rated, and hope Dodson beats him if the fight comes off.

[Blueboy]

As a fighter and not realy in to football i have the excuse to say i support both because my cousin played for everton

Who's your cousin, Tony?

[Top Dog]

Who's your cousin, Tony?


Aye I want to know as well, so who is it:?

[skel1983]

And Haye couldn't even beat Carl Thompson so he's got no chance of...

Oh wait. Your logic is fucked mate.


I would of loved to come back to this thread when Smith fights for the WBO Title, but that will never happen so I guess we will to agree to disagree.

[skel1983]

And Haye couldn't even beat Carl Thompson so he's got no chance of...

Oh wait. Your logic is fucked mate.

Not really mate bit of a shit expample that Carl Thompson was a world class operator in his day even though he was an old man he was once a very decent fighter who could bang.

Remind me what world titles and who has Bendall beat again??

[Tony Bellew]

Tony's cousin was Kevin McCloud, Good player he was, Did't get the right breaks at the time, The club was going through a bad patch..:-(

Looking better now though..:good

[JCB123]

Lookin better now??????????

Yous are 15th in the league ......... 3 points above relegation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously Tony (Bellew), what are your views on this fight??
I know you know both of them and might not want to pick one over the other but would be interested to hear your views.

Also i presume you have sparred with these two??
How did it go?
What are their strengths and weaknesses??

Nice one

[Dan684]

Wel yeah Everton are looking better now. At or around the time McLoud was there they were dogshite :good Think they came like16th 17th :lol:

Doubt that will happen this season

[Blueboy]

Tony's cousin was Kevin McCloud, Good player he was, Did't get the right breaks at the time, The club was going through a bad patch..:-(

Looking better now though..:good

Nice one Bomber! :good

I remember McLoud, he looked a decent prospect but like you said just didn't get much of a chance - one of the best players in the rezzies around that time. Went off to QPR and then ended up playing with Lee Trundle at Swansea, not sure where he is these days though.

Used to see him at away games in the Everton end after he'd left, always seemed a top lad. Had no idea he was Tony Dodson's cousin, suppose you learn something new every day!

[Blueboy]

Anyway, back to the topic...

I'm looking forward to this one, should make for a much more eye-catching fight than the Smith-Quigley scrap.

Can't wait to see the Echo Arena packed out again. The atmosphere last time was something special, but I'm sure this fight can top that. Hopefully Frank will put another cracking undercard on again. Who knows, the Brook-Jennings title fight may even get re-arranged for the same bill?

[Top Dog]

Anyway, back to the topic...

I'm looking forward to this one, should make for a much more eye-catching fight than the Smith-Quigley scrap.

Can't wait to see the Echo Arena packed out again. The atmosphere last time was something special, but I'm sure this fight can top that. Hopefully Frank will put another cracking undercard on again. Who knows, the Brook-Jennings title fight may even get re-arranged for the same bill?


Brook v Jennings same bill! Quality

[hit me HARDER]

Tony's cousin was Kevin McCloud, Good player he was, Did't get the right breaks at the time, The club was going through a bad patch..:-(

Looking better now though..:good

Only just saw this comment, yeah Kev McLeod was a cracking prospect, he had a left foot like Sheedy. Unfortunately for him, initially, not only was Walter Smith unsure whether to play him in the centre or on the left, but he was also having to battle it out with fellow young nippers Gazza, Pembridge, Ginola & Mark Hughes for places. Oh yes, Walter was a champion for playing the young lads. Like I mentioned though, saw him play a cracking centre-mid role against Chelsea, think we won 1-0, he looked the bollocks.

Wasn't to be though, upon Walter's sacking & Moyes' appointment, it was thought Kev would get a chance, but he was loaned out to QPR where he did brilliantly well & helped get them to the play-offs, so well in fact that Moyes offered him a new contract in 2003. Kev decided to join QPR permanently though & the rest is history.


Sorry if I sound like bennie (no offence mate) but I'm just overjoyed to know YNWA won't be blasted all over the Echo Arena again.

[kieron]

I have never seen any of the class, quality and power that Smith supposedly posesses. He just looks distinctly average. Dodson on the other hand really impressed me in the Quigley fight and I reckon he'll beat Smith

[Top Dog]

I have never seen any of the class, quality and power that Smith supposedly posesses. He just looks distinctly average. Dodson on the other hand really impressed me in the Quigley fight and I reckon he'll beat Smith


100% agreed:good

[avidlemon]

we will see. Can't wait for them to get it on!!!

[king s]

Brook vs jennings in on the sexton vs williams here in london.Quality

[alba]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

March 13th :happy

[avidlemon]

glad it has finally been confirmed.

Go on Smigga!

[Blueboy]

March 13th :happy

The Echo article you've linked to says the 12th

..then further down it mentions a February undercard

:huh

[ciaran]

fuckinell same weekend as mayweather pacquiao so doubt ill be going gutted!

[ciaran]

12th march it is

Paul Smith makes the first defence of his British Super-Middleweight Championship against rival and former champion Tony Dodson on Friday 12th March at the Echo Arena.

Tickets will go on sale from the Arena on Wednesday (16 Dec) from 9am.

A high quality fight card also features Tony Bellew, Stephen and Liam Smith, Joe Selkirk, Ronnie Heffron and Tobias Webb.

[Top Dog]

Paul Smith is wasted talent. He's 100x better than he's showed us.

Well how do you know he is 100 times better if you havent seen it??:nut Guys over-rated big time