David Haye Has Made The Final Shortlist For BBC's S.P.O.T.Y. [Archive]

Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 02:37 PM

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I normally don't give a shit about this award, but I find it amazing that boxing isn't good enough to be shown on the beeb, but they are all too willing to jump on a bandwagon if it passes by. I seem to remember JC and Hatton both tying up 1st and 2nd spots a few years back as well.

I might even vote. Pay attention to the public, beeb:twisted:. Hope Buncey mentions the double-standards on his next Boxing Hour.

Thoughts?:good

djoc175

11-30-2009, 02:39 PM

Stealing my thunder??You don't impress me

MODS move this non boxing thread to the lounge

Bunce

11-30-2009, 02:41 PM

Let's help him pull it off.

Adios.

lefthook82

11-30-2009, 02:44 PM

No chance. For one fight against a dude most acknowledged he would outclass

Button has this locked anyway

Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 02:46 PM

Stealing my thunder??You don't impress me

MODS move this non boxing thread to the lounge

:lol: I just saw your post in the Choi thread. You'll have to take my word for it, but I came across the news myself - amazingly I have access to the beeb's website like millions of others. I'm not Rob:deal.

Let's help him pull it off.

Adios.

Indeed. I think I might actually vote this year as he has deserved it for some time:good. Steve, you must agree on the beeb's double standards on this issue?

djoc175

11-30-2009, 02:49 PM

:lol: I just saw your post in the Choi thread. You'll have to take my word for it, but I came across the news myself - amazingly I have access to the beeb's website like millions of others. I'm not Rob:deal.

:lol:
The timing was awful convenient

David Haye:happy

Danny

11-30-2009, 03:26 PM

I for one hope Haye wins it, but I will be amazed if Jenson Button doesn't receive the award!

Maza1987

11-30-2009, 03:29 PM

Button
Ennis
Haye

In that order, for me.

ishy

11-30-2009, 03:44 PM

Only the Sunday Times and Daily Mail didn't nominate Haye.

Only Sport Magazine, The Voice and the Daily Record nominated Froch.

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Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 03:53 PM

Only the Sunday Times and Daily Mail didn't nominate Haye.

Only Sport Magazine, The Voice and the Daily Record nominated Froch.

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Careful, Djoc might claim he saw that one first as well;):lol:. Marina Hyde's buddies at the Guardian voted Haye in:lol:. Who's Froch? Has he been on TV much?

felix

11-30-2009, 03:54 PM

Too early, maybe next year depending on his fights.

Chud

11-30-2009, 03:58 PM

Let's help him pull it off.

Adios.

seriously? he had one fight all year that he "won" against one of worst champs of all time and who only had the belt because of technicalities with the board in Finland. You want the general public to think that abomination of a fight was boxing at its best? If that was the shit, then they might aswell all stick to watch Formula 1 or whatever.

alfonso

11-30-2009, 04:00 PM

Surprised Froch isnt there... Andy Murray, has he won a grandslam yet?

Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 04:01 PM

seriously? he had one fight all year that he "won" against one of worst champs of all time and who only had the belt because of technicalities with the board in Finland. You want the general public to think that abomination of a fight was boxing at its best? If that was the shit, then they might aswell all stick to watch Formula 1 or whatever.

You know full well that SPOTY is a personality contest and, at this point in time, Haye is big news. That's why he's been nominated.

djoc175

11-30-2009, 04:06 PM

Careful, Djoc might claim he saw that one first as well;):lol:. Marina Hyde's buddies at the Guardian voted Haye in:lol:. Who's Froch? Has he been on TV much?
:rant:rant

I'm with you though.I don't care too much about the SPOTY.I watch it though:nut

Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 04:09 PM

:rant:rant

I'm with you though.I don't care too much about the SPOTY.I watch it though:nut

I haven't watched it in years. I probably won't watch this year's either, but I do appreciate what a Haye win means for boxing in the UK. Even a top 3 finish would be fantastic, IMO. Haye's mainstream recognition is long overdue and he deserves something of this magnitude for what he did at cruiser never mind the win over Valuev.

draw99

11-30-2009, 04:11 PM

My top 3 are:

1. Cavendish
2. Button
3. Haye

chrisfinch

11-30-2009, 04:41 PM

My top 3 are:

1. Cavendish
2. Button
3. Haye

I'd like to see Cav win it, he really is a phenomenal cyclist. However I'd expect the top 3 to be...

1. Button
2. Ennis
3. Cavendish or Haye

11-30-2009, 04:44 PM

he should win it. how many heavyweight champs have we had??? We had a formula 1 champ last year...psssh Dave should win!

Squire

11-30-2009, 04:48 PM

how do you vote? over the phone?

chrisfinch

11-30-2009, 05:16 PM

how do you vote? over the phone?

yeah, that and a text vote on the night i think it is.

I think we should all go batshit and vote for Haye on the night. I mean Calzaghe and Hatton both came in the top 3 two years back, so there's a fanbase there that will vote.

slip&counter

11-30-2009, 05:25 PM

no chance of winning.

GazOC

11-30-2009, 05:40 PM

That little diver shit made the shortlist?

ishy

11-30-2009, 05:41 PM

That little diver shit made the shortlist?

:yep:dead

Losfer_Words

11-30-2009, 05:51 PM

That little diver shit made the shortlist?

No, Gerrard aint on it, Gaz.

GazOC

11-30-2009, 05:56 PM

No, Gerrard aint on it, Gaz.

I'd thought of that punchline before I made the post. I figured Dan would be the one to go for it though.....;)

SeanDoc

11-30-2009, 06:00 PM

You know full well that SPOTY is a personality contest and, at this point in time, Haye is big news. That's why he's been nominated.

Joe Calzaghe, in no shape or form, ever won a personality contest.

chrisfinch

11-30-2009, 06:04 PM

You know full well that SPOTY is a personality contest and, at this point in time, Haye is big news. That's why he's been nominated.

I read it as a contest for sports personalities i.e. somebody associated with sport, the same way a TV personality is somebody who appears on TV. They could be as dry as sandpaper but they are still a TV personality-the same with sport.

It's not a contest for who has the best personality in sport, its a contest for sports personalities, and as SeanDoc said-Calzaghe won it

GazOC

11-30-2009, 06:09 PM

They call it "personality" meaning that the vote can be independant of achivements.

Primadonna Kool

11-30-2009, 06:10 PM

Jenson Button hands down...

ishy

11-30-2009, 06:10 PM

I think what Losfer meant was it is a popularity contest which is certainly is.

NO MAS

11-30-2009, 06:55 PM

I think that if you use the words on the tin " Sports Personality" Haye should win it hands down... But I would not anticipate this to be a platform to launch Boxing back on the BBC...

I think that Button wins with Haye in 2nd place followed by Ennis...

Farmboxer

12-01-2009, 12:47 AM

Never forget Christy Martin.

Losfer_Words

12-01-2009, 02:49 AM

I'd thought of that punchline before I made the post. I figured Dan would be the one to go for it though.....;)

Yes, you did leave yourself wide-open for the counter ala Hatton. Looks like I beat Dan for immaturity in this thread - I don't know if that's good or a bad thing:lol:.

They call it "personality" meaning that the vote can be independant of achivements.

I think what Losfer meant was it is a popularity contest which is certainly is.

^^^This is more-so what I was getting at. I did actually mean to put 'popularity' in the original post. Haye is a mainstream celebrity/ superstar now - if SPOTY was based purely on sporting achievements, Haye should have been nominated after blitzing Enzo. JC was only nominated after a win over Kessler after years of domination at 168 and after he achieved mainstream appeal as well, and Hatton was nominated after one of the biggest promotions involving a British fighter in a very long time. Wasn't in the top 2 after the Tszyu win, was he?;):good

JMM should win the overseas award as well:deal.

Beeston Brawler

12-01-2009, 05:29 AM

Haye

12-01-2009, 06:04 AM

Its also very shoddy and cheap journamlism when the BBC state, ''In 2009 David Haye became the Heavyweight Champion of the World''.

No he fucking didn't. He picked up a paper title.

Its all a bit of a bandwagon with Haye at the moment, which is a good thing i suppose. But it also means a lot of very poor journalism from football writers who suddenly know everything about boxing.

DamonD

12-01-2009, 06:31 AM

He deserves to win it, being the first British heavyweight title holder in five years and actually having a personality.

But Button will probably win it, more's the pity.

pathmanc1986

12-01-2009, 06:34 AM

I don't see Jenson Button as a personality though.

I'd say Jessica Ennis is a deserving winner..... after missing the Olympics to come back and whup a pretty strong field in a tough event.

Haye comes across as a bit of an arse to a lot of people (not me) and hasn't exactly been active, has he?

i thought carolina kluft wasnt there. bit like in ireland when harrington won the majors when woods wasnt there, its just not the same. read the observer sport interview with her and she seems like a nice girl and a proper pro

pathmanc1986

12-01-2009, 06:36 AM

everyone on here should be voting for haye, even if its on the bullshit platform of 'heavyweight champ' which he isnt, its still good for the sport to be in mainstream sports journalism

pathmanc1986

12-01-2009, 06:37 AM

also does anyone know when the international star of the year shortlist is announced?

surely the pacman is in with a shout on that one? granted bolt is a near certainty

remember the year they gave it to holyfield

Sai

12-01-2009, 06:44 AM

Beeston Brawler

12-01-2009, 07:08 AM

When did Holyfield get it?

1996?

slip&counter

12-01-2009, 07:46 AM

how come that little puff made it and Khan didn't.

pathmanc1986

12-01-2009, 07:47 AM

When did Holyfield get it?

1996?

think so, he was on and being made to feel uncomfortable by des lynam being mostly asked was he afraid to have fought tyson so prob 1996.

thing is he got it ahead of micheal johnson, who had just broken the 20 yrs old 200m record and won the 400m in the olympics so it was a mark of respect to holyfield to have gotten it.

he was also on it the year lennox lewis won with ali and they both conducted themselves pretty well.

GazOC

12-01-2009, 08:35 AM

I won't be voting and it would do boxing no harm at all if Haye won but if I wasn't a boxing fan I'd probably go for Ennis. It out of her and Button IMHO and I hate motor "sports".

Beeston Brawler

12-01-2009, 08:51 AM

think so, he was on and being made to feel uncomfortable by des lynam being mostly asked was he afraid to have fought tyson so prob 1996.

thing is he got it ahead of micheal johnson, who had just broken the 20 yrs old 200m record and won the 400m in the olympics so it was a mark of respect to holyfield to have gotten it.

he was also on it the year lennox lewis won with ali and they both conducted themselves pretty well.

I guess at the time with it being a massive upset...... he was entitled to win it - as for Holyfield being scared of Tyson :dead

In hindsight I suppose it's a 'Evander Holyfield beat Mike Tyson.... so what' really..... even though it was an amazing performance - one could be forgiven for expecting that from Holyfield really.

Laikaka

12-01-2009, 01:14 PM

For bringing boxing into disrepute earlier in the year I'd certainly hope that Haye doesn't win it.

GazOC

12-01-2009, 01:16 PM

For bringing boxing into disrepute earlier in the year I'd certainly hope that Haye doesn't win it.

By wanting to get paid for a fight?

djoc175

12-01-2009, 01:27 PM

By wanting to get paid for a fight?
He was injured.I have no reason not to believe him.The man is a prophet

GazOC

12-01-2009, 01:30 PM

Yep, injured. That'll be a dislocated wallet when Setanta went bust and his purse went up in smoke.

djoc175

12-01-2009, 01:39 PM

Yep, injured. That'll be a dislocated wallet when Setanta went bust and his purse went up in smoke.
I was joking of course.Prophets don't/can't get injured.

Laikaka

12-01-2009, 01:43 PM

By wanting to get paid for a fight?

Not pulling out of the fight. His t-shirt and poster.

GazOC

12-01-2009, 01:47 PM

Ah, that was bit crass but no big deal. He was just trying to get some publicity and jump the queue for a title shot (it worked!!).

noonan

12-01-2009, 02:06 PM

Button deserves this title in my opinion, an amazing turn around from no team to World Champion in 10 months!!

Haye having 1 fight this year against Valuev albeit a excellent mature performance i wasnt sure he was capable of, does not make him a front runner in this competition, im suprised he made the final ten.

But good luck to him.

Mazallan

12-01-2009, 02:20 PM

I will not vote but wish him the best of luck.

Laikaka

12-01-2009, 02:43 PM

Ah, that was bit crass but no big deal. He was just trying to get some publicity and jump the queue for a title shot (it worked!!).

Haye's publicity stunt showed no respect or gratitude to the sport that he earns his very living from. Sadly, barely a month goes by when it seems there isn't another fatality in boxing, but how will the world look upon boxing when a ring death is compounded by the deceased boxer being depictated as a corpse with a severed head in the pre-fight hype to sell more tickets? And boxing expects to be respected and taken seriously? And shown on tv...by the BBC no less? And doesn't every boxer who loses his life in the ring deserve to be spared the infamy that would surely come from being portayed in this manner?

Sorry to be morbid, but I feel this is the reality of Haye's actions.