McCLINE NOT A BETTER OPPONENT THAN GOLOTA OR McCALL

[lzolnier]

Lately, people have been mischaracterizing who Jameel McCline really is. McCline's record or skill set in no way shape or form suggest that he is a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota. For instance, unlike McCline, Golota has NEVER lost to a bum or anyone outside of the top ten ranking, in his entire career. Let's recount Jameel's illustrious record of losing in chronological order, shall we:

Gary Bell 6-0-0,
Greg Pickrom 6-1-1,
Wladimir Klitschko 39-1-0,
Chris Byrd 37-2-1,
Calvin Brock 24-0-0,
Zuri Lawrence 19-10-4
Nikolay Valuev 45-0-0

To suggest that McCline is a better quality opponent than either Golota or McCall is an insult to the truth.

[MrMagic]

For sure, McCall is worthy a title shot, not fvcking McCline.

[Grabonator]

Golota is done, McCall is old. To me McCline is better. This guy had no amateur fights if im not mistaken and right now hes mutch better than the foul pole. Ok lets say hes not better than McCall, lets say hes just as good.

[brooklyn1550]

McCall is better and more worthy of a title shot than McCline, so in that regard, I agree with you that McCall would have made for a better fight and would have been the better choice. But Andrew Golota hasn't done anything in the past few years. He was destroyed by Lamon Brewster after 3 quick first round knockdowns. Brewster was a big puncher, like Peter, and Golota froze. He lost to Ruiz and drew with Byrd, but that is not the same Golota now whose last win was over Jeremy Bates.

McCall and Virchis deserved it most...McCline got it and rightfully so over Golota.

[lzolnier]

Who said Mcline is a better opponent than Golota and Mccall? That's crazy talk right there.

Peter is being handed a soft touch. This just kills the thrill..
With McCline being announced as the official opponent for Peter, there have been many people stating on record that he is in fact a better opponent.


Let me use "El Ray" as a representative example. This is what he and some others are saying in an earlier thread.

"Great news, this is a much better fight than what Golota and McCall fanboys were hoping for"

"Bullshit! I have no idea why McCall gets so much credit here. The guy is old and slow as fuck now-a-days and he's never had great defensive skills so I don't see him being able to fend off much of what Peter throws his way. That's an easy win for Peter IMO.

While McCline is a bonafide top 10 contender (haha, that one killed me, because on his best days he is in the fringe top 15) who is quicker than Peter in almost every way and has much more refined skill. Trust me this is going to be a much better scrap than people give it credit for."

[MrMagic]

Golota is done, McCall is old. To me McCline is better. This guy had no amateur fights if im not mistaken and right now hes mutch better than the foul pole. Ok lets say hes not better than McCall, lets say hes just as good.

Compare his wins against Golota's and McCalls, McCalls possibly has the best record out there among heavyweights to be honest. And has won his recent fights, defeating Sinan Samil Sam, McCline's best win couldn't even compare to Sinan... so you're wrong here, McCall is obviously more worthy then McCline.

[lzolnier]

Compare his wins against Golota's and McCalls, McCalls possibly has the best record out there among heavyweights to be honest. And has won his recent fights, defeating Sinan Samil Sam, McCline's best win couldn't even compare to Sinan... so you're wrong here, McCall is obviously more worthy then McCline.


Yes, McCall is the worthiest of the three, followed by Golota and then McCline. I think people are infatuated with McCline's decent 2 rounds against Valuev and feel sorry for his bad luck.

[C Money]

Fucking McCline sucks ass and isnt a better opponent than Golota or McCall by any stretch of the imagination:nono


He's developed into the HW division PATSY and is no more than a gimme for guys coming off a loss.

[BoxingGuru]

Sad thing is Peter is about on par with both of them. He sucks as bad as McCline does with his rabbit punching which is never penalized.

[Asterion]

McCline is my #22 contender, McCall is around #15 and Virchis is Top12. Definitely McCline is worse. But he is better than Golota, who I have unranked.

[C Money]

McCline is my #22 contender, McCall is around #15 and Virchis is Top12. Definitely McCline is worse. But he is better than Golota, who is have unranked.

Better??:nono

More stable mentally?? Perhaps!!

Mccline has no where near the skills that Golota has/had/ or lost over time.


I'm not defending Golota, or shitting on you, just stating the truth. McCline is next to nothing at this point.

[left hook 75]

Its just as likely McCline will beat Peter then this whole heavyweight picture will be even more fucked up than it is now.

[C Money]

Its just as likely McCline will beat Peter then this whole heavyweight picture will be even more fucked up than it is now.

:rofl

McCline beat Peter???

:nono

mcCgoofy sucks:good

[2ironmt]

mccall probably earned the shot out of these three, but all of them have serious flaws. mccline shouldn't be getting a title shot but like always he could beat Peter if he doesn't fight too scared.

[Bummy Davis]

McCline has lost all of his Big ones, but he will be a small test for Peter who did not impress me vs Toney or Vlad

[The Kurgan]

Whatever. Provided we actually get a WBC title fight for a change, I'm happy.

[Bubba]

McCall was more deserving.

He won an eliminator!

[fightingmajor]

McCline is a tougher fight than Golota or McCall for Peter.

[lzolnier]

It's fun how people can post all kinds of claims and opinions without telling us how they arrive at their conclusions. It's not really an argument, it's more like child's play. I wanna try, I wanna try, please let me try:

McCline is a tougher fight than Golota or McCall for Peter.
No! Not if his life depended on it.


Wasn't that annoying? Next time, tell us why you think that McCline is supposedly tougher than either McCall or Golota, so we can laugh a little harder.

[emanuel_augustus]

No!


Wasn't that annoying? Next time, tell us why you think that McCline is supposedly tougher than either McCall or Golota, so we can laugh a little harder.

Golota is shot. McCall is old and not as skilled as McCline at this point, and doesn't have near the track record.

McCline has more left at this stage then either of these two guys, and his size makes him a better challenger for Peter and a more interesting fight.

He beat Briggs and Whitaker, knocked down Byrd and Brock more recently, although losing both decisions, and was looking good against Valuev.

The only semi-quality fighter McCall has beaten in say...the last decade, is punching bag Sinan Sam.

Golota is 1-2-1 in the last 4 years (no, he didn't beat Byrd), with his only win against Jeremy Bates.

Give me a break, at this point McCline is clearly the better opponent of those three.

[lzolnier]

Golota is shot. McCall is old and not as skilled as McCline at this point, and doesn't have near the track record.

McCline has more left at this stage then either of these two guys, and his size makes him a better challenger for Peter and a more interesting fight.

He beat Briggs and Whitaker, knocked down Byrd and Brock more recently, although losing both decisions, and was looking good against Valuev.

The only semi-quality fighter McCall has beaten in say...the last decade, is punching bag Sinan Sam.

Golota is 1-2-1 in the last 4 years (no, he didn't beat Byrd), with his only win against Jeremy Bates.

Give me a break, at this point McCline is clearly the better opponent of those three.

He sure as hell is not a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota, because his biggest successes have been smaller and his biggest failures greater and more frequent, than either of those fighters (3 loses to absolute bums and clubfighters, something that Golota or McCall have never done). For now, to say that Golota is shot is really a premature conclusion because he had terrific performances against Byrd and Ruiz and was bombed against Brewster, which was not unusual for him and does not really indicate that his overall skills have deteriorated to the point of being shot. He looked decent against Bates and did what he was supposed to do - get rid of a bum in 2 rounds, which is something that McCline cannot reliably do. We will know more about Golota when he faces McBride. McCline's record is inferior to Golota's by any comparison you choose to make. McCline's supporters are ,like their fighter, full of hot air.

[brooklyn1550]

He sure as hell is not a better quality fighter than either McCall or Golota, because his biggest successes have been smaller (a win against a shellshocked M. Grant) and his biggest failures greater and more frequent, than either of those fighters (3 loses to absolute bums and clubfighters, something that Golota or McCall have never done). McCline's record is inferior to Golota's by any comparison you choose to make. McCline's supporters are ,like their fighter, full of hot air.

We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.

[emanuel_augustus]

We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.

Indeed, it's not 1996 anymore.

[lzolnier]

We aren't talking about resume's. Golota, at his best, was obviously more talented, but right now, McCline still has something left. Whereas Golota is probably close to, if not already a shot fighter.

I don't know whether Golota is a shot fighter. You're probably basing that opinion on two things: the quick loss against Brewster and his recent inactivity. Because the loss against Brewster was the type of loss that Golota could have picked up in his prime (eg., vs. Lewis), the loss does not really demonstrate that Golota is, overall, a shot fighter. It only showed us what we knew all along - Golota is vulnerable to early attacks made by heavy punchers. His inactivity is not really a concern because Golota has always been a gym rat and comes to fight in terrific shape. I would say hold your judgment of whether he is shot (and therefore inferior to McCline at this time) after his bout with McBride.

With a fighter like Golota, where we know most of his shortcomings are psychological, don't be surpised if we see him better than ever and enter in his actual prime, IF he manages to control his mental issues. I believe we saw glimpses of that, not two years ago against Byrd and Ruiz.

[box03]

Mccall is the most qualified fighter for Peter in the sense that he has never been down in his 22 year career giving him one of best chins of all time, if Peter could take Mccall out that would be a good indication to most his power is for real and is not overrated. As far as competition goes Mccall has more notable wins than Golota and Mccline combined, Mccall would easily be the hardest fight seeing that Golota melts when hit by a big puncher over last the 10 years and Mccline who has limited skills who has stamina problems in most fights.

[oblate]

the fact is mcline will lose and he will lose in boring fashion. golota would lose but atleast it would be in crazy fashion and theres always the tiny tiny chance that he pulls something nice, and an even bigger chance that he would do nicely and then pull something crazy. atleast it would be interesting. mccall atleast has an iron chin and it would be an interesting fight and hes been winning his fights.