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gilad
06-25-2007, 12:16 PM
I'm sick of many members here (not all) who are fans of one of the fighters mentioned above, and as a result show complete disrespect to the other two. I'm sick of comments like "Cotto has no defence and can't take a punch", "Hatton grabs and can't box", "Mayweather runs and can't punch" and whatever.
Those 3 guys are top 10 fighters, all around the same height, weight and age. They all achived a lot already. If anybody thinks Cotto has an easy night with Hatton, Hatton will easily KO Floyd or Floyd will not lose a round to both, these statements are crazy.
If 2 of the 3 mentioned above will meet it will probably be the toughest fight and surely biggest risk each of them has ever taken. Floyd is so skilled and Hatton and Cotto are so strong mentally that you have to go to hell and back in order to beat them (and believe me they all know it and have a lot of respect for each other and maybe even a healthy fear, there's a reason why they demand so much money).
Until those fights are made, we can't say who is the better man in a head to head matchup. Cotto's win against Zab was a great result, so was Hatton's win against Castillo and Floyd's win over Oscar. They all deserve their props...and much respect from the knowledgable fans.

Muskyrat
06-25-2007, 12:17 PM
I'm sick of many members here (not all) who are fans of one of the fighters mentioned above, and as a result show complete disrespect to the other two. I'm sick of comments like "Cotto has no defence and can't take a punch", "Hatton grabs and can't box", "Mayweather runs and can't punch" and whatever.
Those 3 guys are top 10 fighters, all around the same height, weight and age. They all achived a lot already. If anybody thinks Cotto has an easy night with Hatton, Hatton will easily KO Floyd or Floyd will not lose a round to both, these statements are crazy.
If 2 of the 3 mentioned above will meet it will probably be the toughest fight and surely biggest risk each of them has ever taken. Floyd is so skilled and Hatton and Cotto are so strong mentally that you have to go to hell and back in order to beat them (and believe me they all know it and have a lot of respect for each other and maybe even a healthy fear, there's a reason why they demand so much money).
Until those fights are made, we can't say who is the better man in a head to head matchup. Cotto's win against Zab was a great result, so was Hatton's win against Castillo and Floyd's win over Oscar. They all deserve their props...and much respect from the knowledgable fans.

couldnt agree more

Caper
06-25-2007, 12:19 PM
couldnt agree more

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PH|LLA
06-25-2007, 12:21 PM
I disagree.

Cotto is just too big for Hatton and thats a fact. I'm not saying Cotto is a better fighter, but head to head Hatton doesn't stand much of a chance against Cotto.

Muskyrat
06-25-2007, 12:21 PM
and the sooner the 3 of em decide to fight each other the better for it is for boxing. Its got to be the nearest we've been to the leonard hearns duran hagler era

Muskyrat
06-25-2007, 12:22 PM
I disagree.

Cotto is just too big for Hatton and thats a fact. I'm not saying Cotto is a better fighter, but head to head Hatton doesn't stand much of a chance against Cotto.

think cotto is potentially the pick of the bunch

ferd cloupes
06-25-2007, 12:25 PM
perm any two from three and you've got a fantastic fight

K0NPHL1C7
06-25-2007, 12:28 PM
Mayweather easily handles either of them, probably both of them at the same time.

Caper
06-25-2007, 12:41 PM
Hatton can beat Cotto at 140
Cotto wins at 147

Floyd beats Hatton period
Floyd can beat Cotto at 147

Cotto I suspect might be even better at 154, just a feeling, and particularly against a smaller guy. I sense that if, for whatever reason, Floyd stays at 154 Cotto might have his best chance.

All conjecture until we get the mega the 'Welter weight region' deserves.

Wow not that I think about it I'd favor Cotto against Mayweather at 154lbs and I'd favor PBF at 147lbs, jesus you have opened my eyes to a new option. ;)

Lacyace
06-25-2007, 12:45 PM
Wow not that I think about it I'd favor Cotto against Mayweather at 154lbs and I'd favor PBF at 147lbs, jesus you have opened my eyes to a new option. ;)

I agree. I believe Cotto would probably take Mayweather at 154. I think Floyd's just too damn fast at 147 and below.

brooklyn1550
06-25-2007, 12:46 PM
Excellent post

1-Ton
06-25-2007, 03:26 PM
I like all 3 fighters. I think that in any scenario, these guys present interesting and tough match-ups against each other, and I could honestly see any one of them beating the other on any given day. I am eager for these guys to get the ring with each other to see what happens.

Grabonator
06-25-2007, 03:28 PM
I'm sick of many members here (not all) who are fans of one of the fighters mentioned above, and as a result show complete disrespect to the other two. I'm sick of comments like "Cotto has no defence and can't take a punch", "Hatton grabs and can't box", "Mayweather runs and can't punch" and whatever.
Those 3 guys are top 10 fighters, all around the same height, weight and age. They all achived a lot already. If anybody thinks Cotto has an easy night with Hatton, Hatton will easily KO Floyd or Floyd will not lose a round to both, these statements are crazy.
If 2 of the 3 mentioned above will meet it will probably be the toughest fight and surely biggest risk each of them has ever taken. Floyd is so skilled and Hatton and Cotto are so strong mentally that you have to go to hell and back in order to beat them (and believe me they all know it and have a lot of respect for each other and maybe even a healthy fear, there's a reason why they demand so much money).
Until those fights are made, we can't say who is the better man in a head to head matchup. Cotto's win against Zab was a great result, so was Hatton's win against Castillo and Floyd's win over Oscar. They all deserve their props...and much respect from the knowledgable fans.

Im a fan of Cotto and Mayweather as well but not Hatton.

Mook
06-26-2007, 08:56 AM
and the sooner the 3 of em decide to fight each other the better for it is for boxing. Its got to be the nearest we've been to the leonard hearns duran hagler era


I agree entirely, and have been saying this myself for ages. the way we know that they're all great is that all of their CVs would have that much more gloss if they beat one of the others.

I think Juan Diaz has the potential to be part of this list - he has more pop in his punches than is generally acknoeledged, but one or two divisions upwards I'd guess he'd struggle.

grayggr
06-26-2007, 09:06 AM
Agreement here. They've all proved their status. Only question is whether my man Ricky can make a successful return up to Welter at some stage. I hope so. That's where the fights are.

Strike
06-26-2007, 09:25 AM
I am a Hatton fan but both Cotto and PBF are in my top ten favourite boxers. With PBF I don't like him as a person but I feel privelaged to watch a talent of his level and with Cotto I have been a fan since I saw him fight Jucko.

He is also a good guy from everything I have seen. I think PBF beats Hatton on points and easily and I think Cotto stops Hatton in a brilliant war of a fight.

But I would be hoping Hatton won in both cases. Sadly most people seem to think that part of liking a fighter is to disparage any potential opponent and discredit all that they do.

Mook
06-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I am a Hatton fan but both Cotto and PBF are in my top ten favourite boxers. With PBF I don't like him as a person but I feel privelaged to watch a talent of his level and with Cotto I have been a fan since I saw him fight Jucko.

He is also a good guy from everything I have seen. I think PBF beats Hatton on points and easily and I think Cotto stops Hatton in a brilliant war of a fight.

But I would be hoping Hatton won in both cases. Sadly most people seem to think that part of liking a fighter is to disparage any potential opponent and discredit all that they do.

Best avatar, best arguments.

Guru_Too_You
06-26-2007, 11:03 AM
and the sooner the 3 of em decide to fight each other the better for it is for boxing. Its got to be the nearest we've been to the leonard hearns duran hagler era

Correction:

As soon as Cotto or Hatton have the balls to sign the dotted line it will be better for boxing.

acb
06-26-2007, 12:11 PM
Mayweather easily handles either of them, probably both of them at the same time.

Come on man, they are top level fighters, if you think Floyd is just going to ¨handle¨ Cotto your going to be suprised. He may beat Cotto, but he will walk through hell to do it. This isnt Fight Night 3.

acb
06-26-2007, 12:15 PM
Correction:

As soon as Cotto or Hatton have the balls to sign the dotted line it will be better for boxing.

Cotto is a young fighter who has taken good competition in due time. He shouldnt have fought Floyd any sooner than now.

Hatton on the other hand should have taken the fight.

Guru_Too_You
06-26-2007, 12:34 PM
Cotto is a young fighter who has taken good competition in due time. He shouldnt have fought Floyd any sooner than now.

Hatton on the other hand should have taken the fight.

I concur.

And every other word out of Cotto's mouth isnt Mayweather a la Ricky.

Relentless
06-26-2007, 12:51 PM
when mayweather challenged cotto he had only had 23 fights and was very young, if you ask me i think it was a smart move.

Guru_Too_You
06-26-2007, 12:56 PM
when mayweather challenged cotto he had only had 23 fights and was very young, if you ask me i think it was a smart move.

If you ask me it will still be smart to stay out of the ring with Floyd.

Relentless
06-26-2007, 12:59 PM
floyd beating cotto at that time would not have proved anything for floyd, and if cotto lost back then he would have been like fernando vargas, cotto's team done the right thing and built him up going through live contenders.

it would have been like floyd fighting castillo after 23 fights.

sonny73
06-26-2007, 01:07 PM
I think Tszyu was also included in that list until he retired.I think Hatton made the first move fighting Tszyu,really putting himself on the line,I dont think you can really say Mayweather or Cotto have really tested themselves yet and until they meet each other or Hatton they never will.I don't see any others in their primes today that are at this level.